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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #19900 on: February 20, 2015, 09:17:22 am »

I am quite busy with coding and I took time out to help with the liquidity, but it seems that this is making for criticisms about old MGW. So I have removed all from the orderbook until there is a perfect solution without any flaws so nobody will complain

James

Can you put up those walls back please? :) I was ready to stack up on my NXT reserves yesterday, but then my deposit got stuck and then you removed them and now when I have my mgwBTCs, cheap NXT is gone!!

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #19901 on: February 20, 2015, 10:19:46 am »

I am quite busy with coding and I took time out to help with the liquidity, but it seems that this is making for criticisms about old MGW. So I have removed all from the orderbook until there is a perfect solution without any flaws so nobody will complain

James
That's hardly necessary :(

Maybe it is if it helps the community appreciate exactly how much effort James puts into NXT, and has done for over a year now. We all have feelings!!

The NXT dev team is amazing! Gratitude motivates people far more than criticism. Not many people working for wages around here.

Thanks to all the NXT dev people!!!  Inspirational decentralised community effort!
Thanks all Nxters and Dev  :-* :-*

Sometimes people should learn just to STFU once in a while.

There is nothing more poisonous that constant bickering over developing systems.

I wonder how many masons quit building cathedrals because people kept complaining that the half finished tower wasn't high enough.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #19902 on: February 20, 2015, 10:58:33 am »

Soon there will be a plugin system for the Nxt client. (1.5) ;)

I am ready to go with the first Plugin for the client:

Crowdfunding made easy on Nxt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBsKVJYbitY

Looks fantastic. Makes things much more clear - the NxtAcademy crowdfunding confuses me a bit because it uses MScoin. Maybe this could become a standard plugin.
You already mention that it should rather show days instead of blocks - which is a good idea. Because blocks would need to be explained to users. I also think the comma value for pledging seems strange. Avg users would expect either percent or a NXT value.



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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #19903 on: February 20, 2015, 11:52:21 am »

I can also do it open source and distribute to the people who want to help NXT becoming more liquid, the more people use it the more NXT becomes liquid and valuable.
We have a huge advantage, NXT commission is very low so the spread can become very very small.
I know how to do such a bot because i've been doing this kind of stuff for the past 2 years, the problem is i'm not a good programmer, i can only code in VBNET and my code is usually very very ugly and redundant although i can always make it work.
If someone with good programming skills likes the project and is willing to help PM me.

I've recently released a .NET wrapper for the NXT Json API: https://nxtforum.org/api-discussion/nxtlib-a-typed-net-api-wrapper-for-nxt/ .
I don't have unlimited amounts of time to help out, however this weekend I will probably have a couple hours to help out if you need.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #19904 on: February 20, 2015, 12:19:05 pm »

The NXT team is very generous. I hope it's also forgiving when honest mistakes are made. Does one become forgiving when it is ready to face its own contradictions?
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #19905 on: February 20, 2015, 01:25:40 pm »

I am quite busy with coding and I took time out to help with the liquidity, but it seems that this is making for criticisms about old MGW. So I have removed all from the orderbook until there is a perfect solution without any flaws so nobody will complain

James
That's hardly necessary :(

Maybe it is if it helps the community appreciate exactly how much effort James puts into NXT, and has done for over a year now. We all have feelings!!

The NXT dev team is amazing! Gratitude motivates people far more than criticism. Not many people working for wages around here.

Thanks to all the NXT dev people!!!  Inspirational decentralised community effort!
Thanks all Nxters and Dev  :-* :-*

Sometimes people should learn just to STFU once in a while.

There is nothing more poisonous that constant bickering over developing systems.

I wonder how many masons quit building cathedrals because people kept complaining that the half finished tower wasn't high enough.
Well well, those are words I've never seen you use before  :)

Perhaps when people speak up once in a while, things will be improved?
Without criticism you will never learn from your mistakes.

MGW should have been made bullet proof first before all those other projects were started.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #19906 on: February 20, 2015, 01:36:14 pm »

I am quite busy with coding and I took time out to help with the liquidity, but it seems that this is making for criticisms about old MGW. So I have removed all from the orderbook until there is a perfect solution without any flaws so nobody will complain

James
That's hardly necessary :(

Maybe it is if it helps the community appreciate exactly how much effort James puts into NXT, and has done for over a year now. We all have feelings!!

The NXT dev team is amazing! Gratitude motivates people far more than criticism. Not many people working for wages around here.

Thanks to all the NXT dev people!!!  Inspirational decentralised community effort!
Thanks all Nxters and Dev  :-* :-*

Sometimes people should learn just to STFU once in a while.

There is nothing more poisonous that constant bickering over developing systems.

I wonder how many masons quit building cathedrals because people kept complaining that the half finished tower wasn't high enough.
Well well, those are words I've never seen you use before  :)

Perhaps when people speak up once in a while, things will be improved?
Without criticism you will never learn from your mistakes.

MGW should have been made bullet proof first before all those other projects were started.

I only used the abbreviation :)

There is a difference between criticism and just moaning.

Criticism builds, moaning destroys.

The line is usually quite thin.

I agree that there is a lot to be done, but instead of only pointing at it, it would be nice for people also to show appreciation it's even there.

Once balance tips to just the negative, especially when someone just tried to do something positive, it doesn't really help.

I am not bashing honest criticism, just the tendency to panic blame, especially when it happens when something shakes people's confidence. :)
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #19907 on: February 20, 2015, 02:02:22 pm »

The problem isnt that the server's are crashing due to hardware failure. 90% of the time it is due to one of the coin daemon's going on a fork or just going comatose. So if there are a pair of identical machines, maybe it is possible to automatically monitor the coin daemons and switch out the one that is stuck

the problem is 24 hour support for 3 independent locations. this is 9 work shifts per day...
Now assuming money wasnt an issue and we could hire 24 hour monitoring then... except money is an issue.

Also, this area is not really my expertise, so if you are able to devise a way to keep all coin daemon's running 24 hours a day, then please help!

James

P.S. The new realtime MGW is much easier as it already provides realtime monitoring and is very fast so it does not take long to find out if something is wrong. The old MGW, it is taking some time during restart and so when people are counting minutes there is a disconnect when it is 3am where the server host is.

jl777, I know this wouldn't be am ideal solution, but maybe it would help.
What if you had the servers restart once a night?  That way any that are stuck or crashed, would start back up.  I wouldn't imagine the downtime would be high to just restart the server and have the coin daemons auto start on bootup.

Just a thought to maybe help.  Good job with everything
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #19908 on: February 20, 2015, 02:57:12 pm »

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/nxt/#markets

Just thought i'd leave this here.....MGW is a good thing.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #19909 on: February 20, 2015, 03:45:05 pm »

The plugin feature is a really awesome idea.

I would never install the supernet/MGW client because I rarely trade so I don't bother, and I prefer using the Official client.
But i'm a lot more confortable using a plug-in. I will probably install the MGW one.

People are used to Plug-in because of web browser so I'm sure the plug-in feature will have great success.  It should even be the primary focus for any 3rd party dev!
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #19910 on: February 20, 2015, 04:12:56 pm »

I agree. Plugins are great and people already know them :)

Kudos for making it!
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #19911 on: February 20, 2015, 04:13:38 pm »

The plugin feature is a really awesome idea.

I would never install the supernet/MGW client because I rarely trade so I don't bother, and I prefer using the Official client.
But i'm a lot more confortable using a plug-in. I will probably install the MGW one.

People are used to Plug-in because of web browser so I'm sure the plug-in feature will have great success.  It should even be the primary focus for any 3rd party dev!
Thinking the same.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #19912 on: February 20, 2015, 05:46:39 pm »



Has that guys show been broadcast yet?
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #19913 on: February 20, 2015, 05:48:28 pm »

Second plugin teaser :)

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #19914 on: February 20, 2015, 05:50:52 pm »

+1 for plugins, MGW and James

Can someone confirm if plugins will be a surprise edition to the core in v.1.5?
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #19915 on: February 20, 2015, 05:54:58 pm »

+1 for plugins, MGW and James

Can someone confirm if plugins will be a surprise edition to the core in v.1.5?

yep, it will
https://nxtforum.org/nrs-client-development/(client-plugins)-specification-developers-guide/msg162871/#msg162871

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #19916 on: February 20, 2015, 05:55:16 pm »

Bye bye XPY  ;D
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #19917 on: February 20, 2015, 06:00:30 pm »

+1 for plugins, MGW and James

Can someone confirm if plugins will be a surprise edition to the core in v.1.5?

With plug-ins we are very close to completely decentralized, 100% blockchain applications...
You can store compressed HTML is either alias or messaging storage...
And display a basic web site that can be updated every block.

For example, an exchange or gambling app can be nothing more than a plug-in...
With the only bottlenecks = non-dynamic web site and very limited back-end storage.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #19918 on: February 20, 2015, 06:07:03 pm »

+1 for plugins, MGW and James

Can someone confirm if plugins will be a surprise edition to the core in v.1.5?

With plug-ins we are very close to completely decentralized, 100% blockchain applications...
You can store compressed HTML is either alias or messaging storage...
And display a basic web site that can be updated every block.

For example, an exchange or gambling app can be nothing more than a plug-in...
With the only bottlenecks = non-dynamic web site and very limited back-end storage.

aliases hold 1000 bytes, AM txids are 8 bytes, 1000/8 = 125
125 different AMs can be held in 1 alias
AMs also hold 1000 bytes, so a single alias can hold 125*1000 bytes of data
roughly 116 KB of compressed html/js to hold a plugin that can be loaded by typing in an alias.

"Dapps" == done
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #19919 on: February 20, 2015, 06:08:00 pm »


Why not write nxt.org on that shirt with the logo ? This would be more effective. Or is it on the back of the shirt ?
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