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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #17520 on: January 12, 2015, 06:42:30 pm »

At some point BTC will need to be discovered by the main stream. Just wait for it.

FIFY  :)
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #17521 on: January 12, 2015, 06:45:19 pm »

Market it to nerds IT-people and to financial experts :)
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #17522 on: January 12, 2015, 06:49:39 pm »

Which is exactly how I see it. We don't need to market our platform to "average Joe" now, there's not really much he could do with Nxt. We need developers, entrepreneurs, etc., to deliver final product that will make average Joe's life somehow better - that's when he will be interested naturally.

I don't think Uniqueorn is suggesting we market to average Joe.  He's stating that we have specific targeted marketing campaign geared toward certain users who could utilize our platform.  I agree and I think committees would be open if there was some proposals.  Unfortunately we get a lot of "spend Nxt on Marketing" and it never gets beyond that.  We need to be patient, pumps are for people who want/need to sell Nxt, I would rather spend my Nxt than sell it.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #17523 on: January 12, 2015, 06:50:53 pm »

At some point Nxt will be discovered by the main stream. Just wait for it.

It actually would be just as good if nxt were never discovered by the mainstream, but utilized by them every day without knowing it, nxt is a good backbone for decentralised cool things, don't market nxt, market the nxt to the people that make cool things, then the people that make the cool things will market it, then we get marketing^2

This is the 'NXT Inside' approach and it could be extremely powerful.
Marketing for NXT is not the same as 1.0 marketing. 2.0 marketing is more B2B, and they are making cool stuff that solves real problems, which takes time.
Melodius (due out this month?) is a great example. So is what Freebieservers is doing (April?). SuperNET (any day now) and all the pies it has fingers in. Plus a few more...
None of these services have properly launched yet. It's not surprising there's no price action, but that doesn't mean there's no action.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #17525 on: January 12, 2015, 06:52:13 pm »

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #17526 on: January 12, 2015, 06:59:11 pm »

Market it to nerds IT-people and to financial experts :)

this is a good idea, already working on it.  ;D

this year nxt (and others) has to put the cards on the table.
trying to grow by marketing the crypto-sphere is useless.

i see two paths here, a passive and an active one.

1. others doing something terrible wrong and nxt could act as a safe harbour
2. reaching out for the external market and creating mass adoptable solutions

1 is always possible but i wouldn't count on it.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #17527 on: January 12, 2015, 07:02:23 pm »

trying to grow by marketing the crypto-sphere is useless.
Yep, crypto-sphere = zero-sum.
I liked how it seems the PayExpo audience (financial guys) didn't care much about NXT being there and not Bitcoin, iirc. For them it was just 'crypto', interesting on itself.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #17528 on: January 12, 2015, 07:05:44 pm »

New win and mac versions:

https://bitbucket.org/nxt-wallet/nxt-wallet-mac/downloads
https://bitbucket.org/nxt-wallet/nxt-wallet-win/downloads

win sha256: 4c7d661036a590be46b8a04801910368d8085f3e5fa46443e232596dbfff75dc
mac sha256: 8d81b2c178c4997898e0730f77cc0bdfc680a5df1b1f628a8c5c3d6ab7878ebd

Contains minting interface in the app itself and better shutdown of the app so no lingering processes remain (this was an issue sometimes for a subset of users).. Please test.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #17529 on: January 12, 2015, 07:07:02 pm »

This is about getting Nxt on the map so that we can start attracting new people with good and creative ideas of how to use the platform.

I completely agree with you there.  I think we could definitely put together some documentation on different ways to use Nxt platform and market to those specific groups.  We also need to put a few more tech pieces in place for users to really benefit from the platform.  That is effective marketing. Many people hear "Marketing" and just think ads, or pump bs.

I've been working under the flag of Nxt Inside for a while now and yes, we dó need resources for devs: http://nxtinside.org/resources/

If people are willing and able to help, please write!
VanBreuk can make it easier to read, but the content is all important.

Also, for my view on marketing, please see the OP in https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/freebieservers-fundraising-proposal/
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #17530 on: January 12, 2015, 07:07:33 pm »

New win and mac versions:

https://bitbucket.org/nxt-wallet/nxt-wallet-mac/downloads
https://bitbucket.org/nxt-wallet/nxt-wallet-win/downloads

win sha256: 4c7d661036a590be46b8a04801910368d8085f3e5fa46443e232596dbfff75dc
mac sha256: 8d81b2c178c4997898e0730f77cc0bdfc680a5df1b1f628a8c5c3d6ab7878ebd

Contains minting interface in the app itself and better shutdown of the app so no lingering processes remain (this was an issue sometimes for a subset of users).. Please test.

Great work, and nice to see you are still around, if lurking :)
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #17531 on: January 12, 2015, 07:23:41 pm »

New win and mac versions:

https://bitbucket.org/nxt-wallet/nxt-wallet-mac/downloads
https://bitbucket.org/nxt-wallet/nxt-wallet-win/downloads

win sha256: 4c7d661036a590be46b8a04801910368d8085f3e5fa46443e232596dbfff75dc
mac sha256: 8d81b2c178c4997898e0730f77cc0bdfc680a5df1b1f628a8c5c3d6ab7878ebd

Contains minting interface in the app itself and better shutdown of the app so no lingering processes remain (this was an issue sometimes for a subset of users).. Please test.

Great work, and nice to see you are still around, if lurking :)

+1  :)
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #17532 on: January 12, 2015, 08:15:09 pm »

Is there a mintable subcoin with decreasing difficulty?
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #17533 on: January 12, 2015, 08:16:11 pm »

Is there a mintable subcoin with decreasing difficulty?

I was thinking about the same. Is that possible?

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #17534 on: January 12, 2015, 08:16:37 pm »

Is there a mintable subcoin with decreasing difficulty?

It's against Murphy's law.

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if (issuanceAttachment.getMinDifficulty() < 1 || issuanceAttachment.getMaxDifficulty() > 255 ||
                        issuanceAttachment.getMaxDifficulty() < issuanceAttachment.getMinDifficulty()) {
                    throw new NxtException.NotValidException(
                            String.format("Invalid minting difficulties min %d max %d, difficulty must be between 1 and 255, max larger than min",
                                    issuanceAttachment.getMinDifficulty(), issuanceAttachment.getMaxDifficulty()));
                }
« Last Edit: January 12, 2015, 08:20:57 pm by egold »
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #17535 on: January 12, 2015, 08:21:23 pm »

I was thinking about the same. Is that possible?

Why not?
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #17536 on: January 12, 2015, 08:23:59 pm »

How? What is it designed to do?

Edit: don't say provide services, detail please!  :)

You seem to forget https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrNFjgCVeBo ;)

Lol, ok.

@ChuckOne, same question pls  :)

Magic?
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #17537 on: January 12, 2015, 08:24:53 pm »

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #17538 on: January 12, 2015, 08:32:46 pm »

Very nice article in a very big German newspaper about Blockchain today!

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/digital/blockchain-prinzip-erst-bitcoin-dann-die-welt-1.2272735

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #17539 on: January 12, 2015, 08:34:30 pm »

At some point Nxt will be discovered by the main stream. Just wait for it.

Just waiting is like just praying. We actually need to do something about it.
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