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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #16180 on: December 30, 2014, 05:52:30 pm »

For what it's worth, "step-by-step" should be hyphenated.

I see that people verb nouns more and more often making English look more and more similar to Newspeak...

(It's fine to use "hyphenated", it just triggered something in my mind)
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #16181 on: December 30, 2014, 06:10:01 pm »

I dunno to whom I should say this, but there is a spelling mistake on the front page:
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Here is a step by step guide for anyone who wishes to know more about Nxt and it’s ecosystem.
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For what it's worth, "step-by-step" should be hyphenated.

Like this? :)
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #16182 on: December 30, 2014, 06:12:29 pm »

You can add nxter.org

Added. If you didn't saw it, since the beginning you are also in the top at Community -> News Magazine. I'm also thinking about adding you on the front page with the latest news or something like that.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #16183 on: December 30, 2014, 06:46:13 pm »

Looks like NXT is on the up, has if finally broken free of its downwards decline or do you think the dumps will start again before it breaks 0.00006 Btc
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #16184 on: December 30, 2014, 07:13:02 pm »

coup d'etat

Ah, it was you in that BTT thread...

Stop with the thoughtcrime.  I am an unperson on BTT.  My crime was oldthink.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #16185 on: December 30, 2014, 07:38:43 pm »

Looks like NXT is on the up, has if finally broken free of its downwards decline or do you think the dumps will start again before it breaks 0.00006 Btc

Why do you think this is a suitable topic for the Speculation thread? :)
There has been some talk of mining assets pushing the price down recently. If they start paying out more than people are rolling back into them, that would help. We've been pretty stable around 0.00005xx for a while now, at least.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #16186 on: December 30, 2014, 08:08:29 pm »

There are plenty of very promising projects based on Nxt technology (That's the point of NxtInside, to show it off).
The Asset Exchange is, to me, revolutionary.
MGW is really promising, too.
And monetary system.
And Marketplace.

On top of these services, some tools are created: Melodius, Nxtty, Lyth, etc.
From the AE, some interesting things are created too. I love the possibility to create mutual funds based on it. James created Sharkfund0 and jl777hodl, and I created CryptoCoins, which has a link to the outside world in euro through CCEDK.

We're building the new economy, right here, right now.
I personally love it.
It's like being part of the Apollo program while having a chance to be Neil Armstrong. ;)


That´s all stuff to play around for cryptousers. But the real word doesn´t need anything of it.
OK you can name it "build the infrastructure",  but there isn´t just one feature the real world wants or uses. That´s the problem. And that won´t change, if somebody realeses another fund or another exchange type service.
For me it looks like crypto is in a dead end and tries to find a way out.

PRojects like Jinn seem to be the most promising stuff at the moment, but it doesn´t have much to do with crypto. Just the funding happened an NXT ae.




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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #16187 on: December 30, 2014, 08:21:00 pm »

There are plenty of very promising projects based on Nxt technology (That's the point of NxtInside, to show it off).
The Asset Exchange is, to me, revolutionary.
MGW is really promising, too.
And monetary system.
And Marketplace.

On top of these services, some tools are created: Melodius, Nxtty, Lyth, etc.
From the AE, some interesting things are created too. I love the possibility to create mutual funds based on it. James created Sharkfund0 and jl777hodl, and I created CryptoCoins, which has a link to the outside world in euro through CCEDK.

We're building the new economy, right here, right now.
I personally love it.
It's like being part of the Apollo program while having a chance to be Neil Armstrong. ;)


That´s all stuff to play around for cryptousers. But the real word doesn´t need anything of it.
OK you can name it "build the infrastructure",  but there isn´t just one feature the real world wants or uses. That´s the problem. And that won´t change, if somebody realeses another fund or another exchange type service.
For me it looks like crypto is in a dead end and tries to find a way out.

PRojects like Jinn seem to be the most promising stuff at the moment, but it doesn´t have much to do with crypto. Just the funding happened an NXT ae.

It is of great importance to look at the big picture. These changes don't happen overnight, I am talking about changes of mentality. Crypto calls for doing business in a decentralized way. People are simply not used to this notion and not motivated to. In peaceful times of economic prosperity these changes happen very slowly if at all. But as Bob Dylan used to sing - the times they are a-changin'. As central authorities and financial institutions more and more betray expectations of people as manifested in the world events, they begin to look for decentralized methods of cooperation. This movement is accelerating, but it's still in its first lap of the race.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #16188 on: December 30, 2014, 08:33:15 pm »

That´s all stuff to play around for cryptousers. But the real word doesn´t need anything of it.
OK you can name it "build the infrastructure",  but there isn´t just one feature the real world wants or uses. That´s the problem. And that won´t change, if somebody realeses another fund or another exchange type service.
For me it looks like crypto is in a dead end and tries to find a way out.

PRojects like Jinn seem to be the most promising stuff at the moment, but it doesn´t have much to do with crypto. Just the funding happened an NXT ae.

The real use case is escaping the central bankers' monetary policies.  They will use crypto, like they used gold in the past, to escape the nightmare they created.  Unfortunately, the mass majority of the population will not catch on to this fact and will go down in flames with their national fiat.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #16189 on: December 30, 2014, 11:48:21 pm »

One high returning mining asset hasn't paid out for several weeks, is that the one 2kool was alluding to a few weeks ago for selling pressure? Nxt gain looks good atm.

Also, is Paycoin a scam or not? If so, in what way? How has it managed to get such a big market cap, just manipulating coins in circulation form the the CMC **? I missed all that. Too busy stuffing my face with roast meats and chocolate.




Look at this Italian plumber.

What makes me say he is an Italian? or even a plumber :D Is it my preconceived notions or decades (centuries in the earlier example) of the stereotyped caricature being associated with an Italian plumber? Mamma mia...  ::)


(Sorry for risking more discussion, I'll get my coat...)


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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #16190 on: December 31, 2014, 12:45:34 am »

Im so confuse. What if NXT will increase the value by $50 so the fee is also $50? I used mynxt.org
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #16191 on: December 31, 2014, 12:49:33 am »

Im so confuse. What if NXT will increase the value by $50 so the fee is also $50? I used mynxt.org
Then they'll lower the fees to something like 0.001
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #16192 on: December 31, 2014, 05:26:37 am »



We seem to have BROKEN FREE of Bitcoin!
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #16193 on: December 31, 2014, 05:40:40 am »



We seem to have BROKEN FREE of Bitcoin!

That was great
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #16194 on: December 31, 2014, 06:02:05 am »

One high returning mining asset hasn't paid out for several weeks, is that the one 2kool was alluding to a few weeks ago for selling pressure? Nxt gain looks good atm.

Also, is Paycoin a scam or not? If so, in what way? How has it managed to get such a big market cap, just manipulating coins in circulation form the the CMC **? I missed all that. Too busy stuffing my face with roast meats and chocolate.

Yes. -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=900970.msg9990351#msg9990351

Also, I don't remember mentioning anything about a mining asset a few weeks ago.  I think that was someone else.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #16195 on: December 31, 2014, 06:31:11 am »

One high returning mining asset hasn't paid out for several weeks, is that the one 2kool was alluding to a few weeks ago for selling pressure? Nxt gain looks good atm.

Also, is Paycoin a scam or not? If so, in what way? How has it managed to get such a big market cap, just manipulating coins in circulation form the the CMC **? I missed all that. Too busy stuffing my face with roast meats and chocolate.

Yes. -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=900970.msg9990351#msg9990351

Also, I don't remember mentioning anything about a mining asset a few weeks ago.  I think that was someone else.

I would have to agree that Paycoin is a little bit curious for a couple of reasons, one being https://github.com/GAWMiners/paycoin/graphs/contributors?from=2014-11-30&to=2014-12-30&type=a
The initial commit on their repo was created by a github account called 'veilcoin' which was a pretty obvious scam coin back in June, the commit is pretty much just bitcoin qt with the word Paycoin put in there a few times, past that there have been only like 50 commits and 2700 lines added while 2400 lines have been deleted by the paycoin dev, so there have really only been 300 lines of code added, the rest just changed. I may be mistaken, but it seems curious...

Anyways, nxt is making a good rise atm, I guess the mining asset hypothesis looks to be correct, whomever coined it. 2015 will be good. :)
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #16196 on: December 31, 2014, 09:10:40 am »

One high returning mining asset hasn't paid out for several weeks, is that the one 2kool was alluding to a few weeks ago for selling pressure? Nxt gain looks good atm.

That doesn't make sense, surely? Mining assets pull down the price when they're first launched, because the NXT used to invest in them is sold to buy mining gear. Then as they pay out, there's upward pressure. Not paying out is the worst of both worlds.

I also don't think we're unpegged from BTC. When the daily and monthly charts bear no resemblance, then maybe...
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #16197 on: December 31, 2014, 09:15:36 am »

isn't XPY supposed to be developed & cloudmined by GAW ?

i am pretty sure i saw that in one of the btt threads.


I also don't think we're unpegged from BTC. When the daily and monthly charts bear no resemblance, then maybe...

+1

the first coin to brake free from btc will create waves in the crypto community, but i also do not think this is the case here.
It is not the first time that some coins will have a different trend than btc, in the short term.

Nxt is rather stable in the mid 0.00005 ranges for a rather long time now, though. I find this to be a good sign.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #16198 on: December 31, 2014, 09:23:55 am »

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #16199 on: December 31, 2014, 09:26:25 am »

That´s all stuff to play around for cryptousers. But the real word doesn´t need anything of it.
OK you can name it "build the infrastructure",  but there isn´t just one feature the real world wants or uses. That´s the problem. And that won´t change, if somebody realeses another fund or another exchange type service.
For me it looks like crypto is in a dead end and tries to find a way out.

PRojects like Jinn seem to be the most promising stuff at the moment, but it doesn´t have much to do with crypto. Just the funding happened an NXT ae.

The real use case is escaping the central bankers' monetary policies.  They will use crypto, like they used gold in the past, to escape the nightmare they created.  Unfortunately, the mass majority of the population will not catch on to this fact and will go down in flames with their national fiat.


Right, but therefore the world has Bitcoin. And obviously they are satisfied with BTC and don´t want/need another.
And I think it is a bad strategy, if we just want to replace BTC.
I think we need a real world App/Dapp/Service and not thousands of NXT support services.


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