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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #20980 on: March 17, 2015, 09:33:49 am »

Mhhhh, look the price at poloniex, sub 4500 satoshis.
I like cornflakes an cheap Nxt in the morning

Which exchange has the big volume? Cmc is missing something and it doesn't look like BTER is that much.

These days polo usually has the largest volume. BTER is not listed and has very little volume (luckily)
But today it looks like someone traded all Nxt at litebit.eu.

Yes, but my point was that the volume does not add up to 100%. We're missing 30-35% from somewhere!
Which is the mystery exchange...?
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #20981 on: March 17, 2015, 10:34:32 am »

Mhhhh, look the price at poloniex, sub 4500 satoshis.
I like cornflakes an cheap Nxt in the morning

Honestly I am sick of this pretending how everything is great while we are constantly going down. 4000 satoshis is the next target, then 3000 and so on.

Oh well..
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #20982 on: March 17, 2015, 10:47:20 am »

Mhhhh, look the price at poloniex, sub 4500 satoshis.
I like cornflakes an cheap Nxt in the morning

Which exchange has the big volume? Cmc is missing something and it doesn't look like BTER is that much.

These days polo usually has the largest volume. BTER is not listed and has very little volume (luckily)
But today it looks like someone traded all Nxt at litebit.eu.

Yes, but my point was that the volume does not add up to 100%. We're missing 30-35% from somewhere!
Which is the mystery exchange...?

I see what you mean. Maybe contact Gliss on BTT?
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #20983 on: March 17, 2015, 10:48:24 am »

Mhhhh, look the price at poloniex, sub 4500 satoshis.
I like cornflakes an cheap Nxt in the morning

Honestly I am sick of this pretending how everything is great while we are constantly going down. 4000 satoshis is the next target, then 3000 and so on.

Oh well..

Why are you pretending?
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #20984 on: March 17, 2015, 11:00:33 am »

Mhhhh, look the price at poloniex, sub 4500 satoshis.
I like cornflakes an cheap Nxt in the morning

Honestly I am sick of this pretending how everything is great while we are constantly going down. 4000 satoshis is the next target, then 3000 and so on.

Oh well..

Why are you pretending?

I am not but everybody here or what is rest of us are pretending!!
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #20985 on: March 17, 2015, 11:08:29 am »

Mhhhh, look the price at poloniex, sub 4500 satoshis.
I like cornflakes an cheap Nxt in the morning

Which exchange has the big volume? Cmc is missing something and it doesn't look like BTER is that much.

These days polo usually has the largest volume. BTER is not listed and has very little volume (luckily)
But today it looks like someone traded all Nxt at litebit.eu.

Yes, but my point was that the volume does not add up to 100%. We're missing 30-35% from somewhere!
Which is the mystery exchange...?
the nxt ae... You should click on main markets and change it to all markets, or follow this link

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/nxt/?markets=all#markets
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #20986 on: March 17, 2015, 11:11:56 am »

Mhhhh, look the price at poloniex, sub 4500 satoshis.
I like cornflakes an cheap Nxt in the morning

Which exchange has the big volume? Cmc is missing something and it doesn't look like BTER is that much.

These days polo usually has the largest volume. BTER is not listed and has very little volume (luckily)
But today it looks like someone traded all Nxt at litebit.eu.

Yes, but my point was that the volume does not add up to 100%. We're missing 30-35% from somewhere!
Which is the mystery exchange...?
the nxt ae... You should click on main markets and change it to all markets, or follow this link

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/nxt/?markets=all#markets

Ah, thanks.
No BTER or CCEDK - is CCEDK still out?
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #20987 on: March 17, 2015, 11:12:57 am »

Mhhhh, look the price at poloniex, sub 4500 satoshis.
I like cornflakes an cheap Nxt in the morning

Honestly I am sick of this pretending how everything is great while we are constantly going down. 4000 satoshis is the next target, then 3000 and so on.

Oh well..

Why are you pretending?

I am not but everybody here or what is rest of us are pretending!!

hmmm, maybe I can relief you off your nxt coins at 3500 satoshi now?  :)

If you are sure of that, than why are you still holding them?
Looks to me you are extremely bearish, and the whole crypto-market currently is with you on that.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #20988 on: March 17, 2015, 11:16:28 am »

Things have been improving at a steady rate consistently for a long time.  Dev teams are growing (third party and core), promotion organisations are getting established. Notably,  'public opinion' has warmed toward Nxt over the last 3 months if BTT is anything to go by.

Nxt is great, no need to pretend. Maybe you meant 'I am sick of pretending the price is great...'?


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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #20989 on: March 17, 2015, 11:19:43 am »


Yes, but my point was that the volume does not add up to 100%. We're missing 30-35% from somewhere!
Which is the mystery exchange...?

This got me thinking on a tangent: when viewing the NXT value of your assets in your wallet. If you totalled up everyone's asset value then the total number of NXT (value wise) in circulation must be far more than 999,997,000.

Is this correct? So if everyone tried to exchange their assets back to NXT it couldn't be done because there wouldn't be enough NXT? Or does this just mean that NXT has far more value than simply the current price of 1 NXT?

My mind can't comprehend it.  :D
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #20990 on: March 17, 2015, 11:25:44 am »


I am not but everybody here or what is rest of us are pretending!!

Pretending about what? Price is price, we can't control that, so best forget about it, and work on building Nxt and its ecosystem. There's no value in looking at price and thinking +5% this week, TO THE MOON; -5% next week, NXT IS DEAD, when it's often just caused by traders looking at lines on charts and clicking buttons. Communities that mainly care about price are generally pump+dump; communities that mainly care about building technology are the ones that will be around for the long haul.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #20991 on: March 17, 2015, 11:35:38 am »

True. And the market cap of Nxt can be easily swayed by those with lots of crypto because it's currently quite small in relation to BTC, etc.

Who cares about +/-5%. Market manipulators cannot manipulate the great development and technology that's being coded and delivered every day.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #20992 on: March 17, 2015, 11:45:32 am »


Yes, but my point was that the volume does not add up to 100%. We're missing 30-35% from somewhere!
Which is the mystery exchange...?

This got me thinking on a tangent: when viewing the NXT value of your assets in your wallet. If you totalled up everyone's asset value then the total number of NXT (value wise) in circulation must be far more than 999,997,000.

Is this correct? So if everyone tried to exchange their assets back to NXT it couldn't be done because there wouldn't be enough NXT? Or does this just mean that NXT has far more value than simply the current price of 1 NXT?

My mind can't comprehend it.  :D

sells asset for nxt, then trade nxt for something you'd like(fiat?btc?) then nxt is back into hands of another asset investor who buys the assets, then go back to the start again.

that is the cycle of life for nxt.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #20993 on: March 17, 2015, 11:46:05 am »

4000 nxtforum members  ;D

The honor goes to EmilyMusqu, congrats  :D



Ok, carry on..  :)
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #20994 on: March 17, 2015, 11:46:56 am »

Mhhhh, look the price at poloniex, sub 4500 satoshis.
I like cornflakes an cheap Nxt in the morning

Honestly I am sick of this pretending how everything is great while we are constantly going down. 4000 satoshis is the next target, then 3000 and so on.

Oh well..

I only care about NXT/USD. BTC is too volatile and unstable for trading calc. And in USD terms it's about the same for last few months and even bullish lately.

Quite a lot early stakeholders should be completely out or sold most by now. I was bearish about 6-9 months ago now I'm bullish again on NXT/USD.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #20995 on: March 17, 2015, 11:50:52 am »


Yes, but my point was that the volume does not add up to 100%. We're missing 30-35% from somewhere!
Which is the mystery exchange...?

This got me thinking on a tangent: when viewing the NXT value of your assets in your wallet. If you totalled up everyone's asset value then the total number of NXT (value wise) in circulation must be far more than 999,997,000.

Is this correct? So if everyone tried to exchange their assets back to NXT it couldn't be done because there wouldn't be enough NXT? Or does this just mean that NXT has far more value than simply the current price of 1 NXT?

My mind can't comprehend it.  :D

this means that NXT should have bigger market cap, compared to coins without AE. AE brought inflation to NXT so number of coins is effectively bigger than 999,997,000.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #20996 on: March 17, 2015, 12:05:15 pm »


Yes, but my point was that the volume does not add up to 100%. We're missing 30-35% from somewhere!
Which is the mystery exchange...?

This got me thinking on a tangent: when viewing the NXT value of your assets in your wallet. If you totalled up everyone's asset value then the total number of NXT (value wise) in circulation must be far more than 999,997,000.

Is this correct? So if everyone tried to exchange their assets back to NXT it couldn't be done because there wouldn't be enough NXT? Or does this just mean that NXT has far more value than simply the current price of 1 NXT?

My mind can't comprehend it.  :D

this means that NXT should have bigger market cap, compared to coins without AE. AE brought inflation to NXT so number of coins is effectively bigger than 999,997,000.

Ehm dunno ... no inflation exists in NXT whatever way look at it. If you bought something on AE those NXT are somewhere else.

What is interesting and I expect to happen eventually is some asset/business to succeed and  will have to buy a lot of NXT for dividends over time or for buybacks. Depending on that alone we should see a big bubble in next 2-3 years. This time  span also coincides with some market cycles I'm watching for.
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #20997 on: March 17, 2015, 02:20:16 pm »

This time  span also coincides with some market cycles I'm watching for.

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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #20998 on: March 17, 2015, 02:44:39 pm »


I am not but everybody here or what is rest of us are pretending!!

Pretending about what? Price is price, we can't control that, so best forget about it, and work on building Nxt and its ecosystem. There's no value in looking at price and thinking +5% this week, TO THE MOON; -5% next week, NXT IS DEAD, when it's often just caused by traders looking at lines on charts and clicking buttons. Communities that mainly care about price are generally pump+dump; communities that mainly care about building technology are the ones that will be around for the long haul.

This is really another way of saying the value is in the assets...
As soon as certain assets develop significant revenue streams their value will jump...
And that will pull up the value of NXT coin... not vice versa.

If 90% of the NXT you own is not invested in assets you believe in...
Then you should speculate on something else.

And in terms of NXT vs NEM and others...
One year from now it will be all about actual revenue streams... not "toolboxes".
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Re: Price speculation
« Reply #20999 on: March 17, 2015, 02:48:54 pm »

Seems to me that any active assett helps contribute to the Nxt eco-system. More exposure for the underlying currency and also trading fees for the operators. People should be excited, happy and willing to hustle to get the word out! Of course, this is just my opinion.
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