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wolffang

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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2016, 04:10:14 pm »

@wolffang - I got your PM regarding the "change vote" option not working. Maybe Damelon already had fixed the poll, but I checked and there seems to be sometimes a bug for that option when the poll is not created by a local/global moderator with certain permissions.

I applied a fix so the permissions are processed properly, and I just checked with a test user and it does work. So in any case, if anyone wants to undo their votes and vote again, just use the "Remove vote" button right under the poll options.

Thanks for your help and the final fix! Damelon applied the quick fix.
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2016, 04:13:25 pm »

Algo is Proof of Stake, therefore it makes sense to call it "Staking".
+ Well known phrase in other PoS communities
+ Easy to recognize, easy to understand
+ Strong focus

PS: vbuterin compared PoS to "virtual mining". Imo it is a very good term if you want to explain what PoS is about.
But using the term "Staking" is good enough to be included in software.

edit: novelty terms like "baking, forming..." will cause only uncertainty

Why is the PoW (Proof of Work) process called "Mining"?
It should be called "Working" if PoS (Proof of Stake) needs to be called "Staking"  :-*
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #22 on: June 11, 2016, 11:05:34 am »

Dont forget to vote!  You can select 3 options.

Difficult to choose.....

Platform name for Nxt2.0 platform -> HYDRA by MrCluster
See This topic for more info
https://nxtforum.org/core-development-announcements/nxt-2-0-overview/msg218943/?topicseen#msg218943

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Staking
The term poker staking, or simply staking, refers to the act of putting cash up on behalf of a poker player in the hopes that he or she wins. The person who puts the cash up is the backer. The backed poker player is the horse.

Staking is an investment. Prior to play, the backer and the horse negotiate a percentage, and then the backer takes that percentage of all winnings, which can be quite lucrative in high-profile tournaments and high-dollar ring games.
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If Hydra would be a good name backed by the community than Generating sounds better as Hydra can (re )-generate multiple new heads.
« Last Edit: June 11, 2016, 11:34:19 pm by wolffang »
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #23 on: June 11, 2016, 11:07:50 pm »

I want to start a blockchain poll on monday with the top3.
Please vote on this forum poll if you havent done it.
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2016, 01:04:27 pm »

I want to start a blockchain poll on monday with the top3.
Please vote on this forum poll if you havent done it.

You should just the top 5 since the amount of vote is still low.
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2016, 02:58:15 pm »

Just have to repeat what I said: I think you're wasting your time until you include the broader community of crypto that uses Proof of Stake. It's no longer a niche technology, and Nxt is nowhere near the position of influence to determine the term single-handedly. Nxt need to stop being so centric and start focusing on the bigger pictures.
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2016, 04:29:45 pm »

I fear this is much ado about nothing.
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2016, 04:55:22 pm »

Just have to repeat what I said: I think you're wasting your time until you include the broader community of crypto that uses Proof of Stake. It's no longer a niche technology, and Nxt is nowhere near the position of influence to determine the term single-handedly. Nxt need to stop being so centric and start focusing on the bigger pictures.

This is a good idea but impossible to conduct.

If you have a look at coingecko you'll find more than 30 coins with POS protocol. All those coins have a community like Nxt. To contact each of them and to find a consensus about this term is a life's work!
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2016, 09:01:12 pm »

Just have to repeat what I said: I think you're wasting your time until you include the broader community of crypto that uses Proof of Stake. It's no longer a niche technology, and Nxt is nowhere near the position of influence to determine the term single-handedly. Nxt need to stop being so centric and start focusing on the bigger pictures.

This is a good idea but impossible to conduct.

If you have a look at coingecko you'll find more than 30 coins with POS protocol. All those coins have a community like Nxt. To contact each of them and to find a consensus about this term is a life's work!


Go to the 'gold standard' of coinmarketcap. Pick top 20 (you have to if you want to include Nxt these days) and contact some representative of the PoS communities. You only need the ones that is actually relevant.


PS: Klee, I know your wife left you and you have ruined your own life, but continuously 'negging' me on this forum won't bring her back. Move on.
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2016, 09:09:27 pm »

PS: Klee, I know your wife left you and you have ruined your own life, but continuously 'negging' me on this forum won't bring her back. Move on.

Please stay ontopic or find another forum to fight each other. Thanks.
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2016, 11:03:16 pm »

PS: Klee, I know your wife left you and you have ruined your own life, but continuously 'negging' me on this forum won't bring her back. Move on.

Please stay ontopic or find another forum to fight each other. Thanks.

Fuck off Farl4bit, you deleted my post merely criticizing Klee's claim that he can predict markets. I understand that this is way beyond your brain's ability to comprehend, but to actually predict markets is an extraordinary claim that require extraordinary evidence, none of which Klee has presented, so your bias has been exposed 100% for anyone with even two digits IQ. Not to mention the fact that you deleted the posts where Klee was claiming me and CfB hacked him for 1000 BTC and called me a 'homo', 'transvestite', 'girls are useless' etc. Where is your outrage over this? Nowhere. You're useless in every sense of the word.
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2016, 11:42:38 pm »

Warning to ANYONE bringing a personal vendetta to the forums: don't.

It serves no purpose on either side.

The deleted posts have been autosaved, and it's rather clear you two have a problem with each other.

The forum administration doesn't take a standpoint there, apart from the fact that the whole thing was out of line and needed to be dealt with.

These forums and threads are for discussion and debate and cooperation, not for settling grudges. There are plenty of other places to have it out.

Please back on topic in this thread.
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2016, 12:06:05 am »

Agreed. Please stick to the topic. We've all had bad stuff happen to us and some of it is self inflicted. We also have a common love of crypto and NXT so let focus on the good and leave the past in the past.

Also, staking sounds like we're placing a wooden stake into a vampire's heart. Staking does not sound like someone creating a block. That's why I voted for forging. It means creating, like something you'd do to make a coin.
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2016, 05:45:09 am »

Also, staking sounds like we're placing a wooden stake into a vampire's heart. Staking does not sound like someone creating a block. That's why I voted for forging. It means creating, like something you'd do to make a coin.

The more I think about the more I realize that Forging isn't that bad. Staking feels like sitting and doing nothing, forging is indeed more like creating something.
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2016, 07:24:46 am »

Greetings, ladies and gentlemen. It's an old topic but an important one.
My first impression of "forging" wasn't a positive one.
It reminded me of "faking" like many others in this forum experienced.
Only when I looked up the dictionary that I realized "forging" also has positive meanings.
Only then that I tried to convince myself to get used to this term.

But my point is, FIRST IMPRESSION COUNTS,
and getting the right message across should be as no-brainer as possible.
We are trying to market NXT not only to the crypto world and geeks,
but also to businesses and layman. (Consider me a layman though I was tech trained).

Let's put our minds together to focus on a better term
(unless none of us here could come up with one).
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2016, 08:00:28 am »

Greetings, ladies and gentlemen. It's an old topic but an important one.
My first impression of "forging" wasn't a positive one.
It reminded me of "faking" like many others in this forum experienced.
Only when I looked up the dictionary that I realized "forging" also has positive meanings.
Only then that I tried to convince myself to get used to this term.

But my point is, FIRST IMPRESSION COUNTS,
and getting the right message across should be as no-brainer as possible.
We are trying to market NXT not only to the crypto world and geeks,
but also to businesses and layman. (Consider me a layman though I was tech trained).

Let's put our minds together to focus on a better term
(unless none of us here could come up with one).

Thanks for sharing your opinion ... and welcome here!  :)
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2016, 08:01:14 am »

How about "farming"? Ever had discussions on NXT crypto "farming"?

Sow and harvest your NXT via NXT crypto farming.
Secure the NXT network by being a NXT farmer.
NXT crypto eco-farming is low energy, green and eco-friendly.
Get some NXT crypto-seeds from an exchange and start farming.

    My computer is "farming" right now.
    I have "harvested" 1 block this morning.
    # "farmed/harvested" blocks (in the client).
    "Farmed/Harvested" by you (in the client).
    Not "farming" (in the client).
    "Farmed/Harvested" Fees Total (in the client).
    In PoS we don't mine, we eco-"farm".

NXT becomes the food to create assets.
Just some food for thought. Will "farming" cause confusion?
Just my 2 NXT worth. Open for critics.
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2016, 08:04:31 am »

Thanks farl4bit. Glad to be here :)
Greetings, ladies and gentlemen. It's an old topic but an important one.
My first impression of "forging" wasn't a positive one.
It reminded me of "faking" like many others in this forum experienced.
Only when I looked up the dictionary that I realized "forging" also has positive meanings.
Only then that I tried to convince myself to get used to this term.

But my point is, FIRST IMPRESSION COUNTS,
and getting the right message across should be as no-brainer as possible.
We are trying to market NXT not only to the crypto world and geeks,
but also to businesses and layman. (Consider me a layman though I was tech trained).

Let's put our minds together to focus on a better term
(unless none of us here could come up with one).

Thanks for sharing your opinion ... and welcome here!  :)
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2016, 08:15:16 am »

How about "farming"? Ever had discussions on NXT crypto "farming"?

Sow and harvest your NXT via NXT crypto farming.
Secure the NXT network by being a NXT farmer.
NXT crypto eco-farming is low energy, green and eco-friendly.
Get some NXT crypto-seeds from an exchange and start farming.

    My computer is "farming" right now.
    I have "harvested" 1 block this morning.
    # "farmed/harvested" blocks (in the client).
    "Farmed/Harvested" by you (in the client).
    Not "farming" (in the client).
    "Farmed/Harvested" Fees Total (in the client).
    In PoS we don't mine, we eco-"farm".

NXT becomes the food to create assets.
Just some food for thought. Will "farming" cause confusion?
Just my 2 NXT worth. Open for critics.

I have added Farming to the poll.
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2016, 08:19:21 am »

How about "farming"? Ever had discussions on NXT crypto "farming"?

Sow and harvest your NXT via NXT crypto farming.
Secure the NXT network by being a NXT farmer.
NXT crypto eco-farming is low energy, green and eco-friendly.
Get some NXT crypto-seeds from an exchange and start farming.

    My computer is "farming" right now.
    I have "harvested" 1 block this morning.
    # "farmed/harvested" blocks (in the client).
    "Farmed/Harvested" by you (in the client).
    Not "farming" (in the client).
    "Farmed/Harvested" Fees Total (in the client).
    In PoS we don't mine, we eco-"farm".

NXT becomes the food to create assets.
Just some food for thought. Will "farming" cause confusion?
Just my 2 NXT worth. Open for critics.

Sounds cool, +1 vote.
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