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neofelis

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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #80 on: June 19, 2016, 12:10:39 pm »

Please vote
https://www.mynxt.info/poll/6014547227999175389

I thought we could leave the bad distribution issues behind us! But this account shows that it is impossible to change anything in Nxt against the will of the original stakeholders:
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NXT-THLJ-CYAL-JQST-6FNS5   4484162400698246576   FORGING   50,001,787.74780191

It's very sad that big shareholders render the community efforts in marketing useless. :'(

Would you feel that way if they had voted for staking? They deserve a bigger voice because they have a bigger stake and more at risk. Besides, people can call it whatever they want.  When I discuss NXT with friends, I just say "creating blocks" anyway.
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #81 on: June 19, 2016, 12:11:47 pm »

Please vote
https://www.mynxt.info/poll/6014547227999175389

I thought we could leave the bad distribution issues behind us! But this account shows that it is impossible to change anything in Nxt against the will of the original stakeholders:
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NXT-THLJ-CYAL-JQST-6FNS5   4484162400698246576   FORGING   50,001,787.74780191

It's very sad that big shareholders render the community efforts in marketing useless. :'(

Would you feel that way if they had voted for staking? They deserve a bigger voice because they have a bigger stake and more at risk. Besides, people can call it whatever they want.  When I discuss NXT with friends, I just say "creating blocks" anyway.

Valid observation :)
And indeed, I never use forging anywhere I talk either. I tend to use "securing the blockchain".
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #82 on: June 19, 2016, 12:27:38 pm »

Please vote
https://www.mynxt.info/poll/6014547227999175389

I thought we could leave the bad distribution issues behind us! But this account shows that it is impossible to change anything in Nxt against the will of the original stakeholders:
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NXT-THLJ-CYAL-JQST-6FNS5   4484162400698246576   FORGING   50,001,787.74780191

It's very sad that big shareholders render the community efforts in marketing useless. :'(

Would you feel that way if they had voted for staking? They deserve a bigger voice because they have a bigger stake and more at risk. Besides, people can call it whatever they want.  When I discuss NXT with friends, I just say "creating blocks" anyway.

I don't criticize the outcome but that this is even possible!
Bigger stake - d'accord. More at risk - I don't know. I'm sure that some guys have more skin in the game than an original stakeholder with 50m NXT. Depends on when you've bought into Nxt. How much have the original Nxt stakeholders spent for their share? 1 BTC!

And that you don't use "forging" in discussions shows clearly how wrong this term is.
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #83 on: June 19, 2016, 12:47:36 pm »

Please vote
https://www.mynxt.info/poll/6014547227999175389

I thought we could leave the bad distribution issues behind us! But this account shows that it is impossible to change anything in Nxt against the will of the original stakeholders:
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NXT-THLJ-CYAL-JQST-6FNS5   4484162400698246576   FORGING   50,001,787.74780191

It's very sad that big shareholders render the community efforts in marketing useless. :'(

Would you feel that way if they had voted for staking? They deserve a bigger voice because they have a bigger stake and more at risk. Besides, people can call it whatever they want.  When I discuss NXT with friends, I just say "creating blocks" anyway.

I don't criticize the outcome but that this is even possible!
Bigger stake - d'accord. More at risk - I don't know. I'm sure that some guys have more skin in the game than an original stakeholder with 50m NXT. Depends on when you've bought into Nxt. How much have the original Nxt stakeholders spent for their share? 1 BTC!

And that you don't use "forging" in discussions shows clearly how wrong this term is.

NXT still in low capital, so that's lots of opportunity.
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #84 on: June 19, 2016, 12:53:56 pm »

I don't use the term "mining" when talking about bitcoin either. At least I don't when I'm speaking to someone new to crypto.

As for original stakeholders, the guy with 50M nxt has about $400,000 to lose. I'm not jealous that he was smart enough to get into NXT early and I applaud his profit.
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #85 on: June 19, 2016, 01:39:56 pm »

I thought we could leave the bad distribution issues behind us! But this account shows that it is impossible to change anything in Nxt against the will of the original stakeholders:
It's very sad that big shareholders render the community efforts in marketing useless. :'(

Where is other 91% of stakeholders?
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #86 on: June 19, 2016, 05:09:15 pm »

My 2NXT:

It's very sad that big shareholders render the community efforts in marketing useless. :'(

I must disagree here ;) . I can't speak for others. The only fact from the poll is that one word was choosen over the other, of the two options available.
Personally, I don't believe in sabotages coming from people who own that much at stake. If they decided to vote, at least it means that they are up to date about Nxt news, and that they've taken the time to vote.
The main problem I see is that there were just 20 votes casted. (9 voted for one option and 11 for the other). That's not even half of the people that voted at nxtforum (44). Maybe people didn't know about the poll, didn't have time to vote, didn't like the final options or... didn't care.

(By the way, even if three or four of the bigger holders that took part in that poll hadn't cast their vote, the result would have been the same.)



It's only useless if you allow them to make decisions they were never supposed to make.
Stakers secure the network, and that's *it*. That's the power they wield and all that they are given by the protocol.
I don't see bitcoin miners being asked about names of things and actually having a say by PoW for more that being able to secure things.

Miners have a lot of power. A hardfork in Bitcoin won't happen if most miners don't support it. See, for example, Bitcoin Classic or Bitcoin XT

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Where is other 91% of stakeholders?
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #87 on: June 19, 2016, 06:39:01 pm »

I thought we could leave the bad distribution issues behind us! But this account shows that it is impossible to change anything in Nxt against the will of the original stakeholders:
It's very sad that big shareholders render the community efforts in marketing useless. :'(

Where is other 91% of stakeholders?

There were only 20 people (or less) taking part in this vote. Maybe the others don't care or they didn't react quickly enough because the duration of the vote was only about 3 days.

My concern was not over the outcome (ok, maybe a little bit ;)) of the vote, but the disparity which is revealed by it. Community voting about every little issue is rendered useless with low participation combined with top accounts which have some kind of veto power. You can do as you wish, but for myself I decided to not take part again in community votings. I've once voted by donation for the Tennessee project and I trust these guys to do the best for Nxt!
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #88 on: June 20, 2016, 03:55:53 am »

I agree with CryptKeeper. Would like to see better participation. How many users of NXT are there anyways?
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #89 on: June 21, 2016, 08:21:17 pm »

It's just a name, so I don't really care. Maybe others feel that way.
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #90 on: June 25, 2016, 08:12:58 pm »

I thought we could leave the bad distribution issues behind us! But this account shows that it is impossible to change anything in Nxt against the will of the original stakeholders:
It's very sad that big shareholders render the community efforts in marketing useless. :'(

Where is other 91% of stakeholders?

Don't know.. I like it that you are still around!  :)
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Re: POLL: new name for mining in PoS
« Reply #91 on: June 26, 2016, 07:06:03 am »

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