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My issue here isn't people raising valid concerns, airing opinions, etc -- let's all fire away (civilly). My only gripe is a hint of condescension where we're all gullible hicks falling for bought likes. I'm excited about Nxtty because of the possibilities. Can anyone here raise a hand that bought Nxtty because some goofball picture on Facebook had 30k likes?

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No, no one bought because of the 30K likes on a picture, but some did buy based on the number of likes and apparent popularity of the app on Facebook (in fact this is why this thread was started, see post #1).

I'm sorry, but this seems to be infantilizing readers here. Not being a Facebook guy, I can suss out some things looking at their FB page -- a reasonable amount of shares vs a metric sh*t ton of likes. I also did not fall prey to the Jason Stratham screenshot scheme, or the screenshot of Nxtty on an Apple Watch that won't be released until 2015 gambit.

Due diligence, whether your investment hype is coming from Facebook (good luck!), Zerohedge (good luck!), or Jim Cramer at CNBC (double good luck!)
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But, 10 year old girls are not permitted to use Facebook. A few may slip through, but not enough to use as an illustration. To say they comprise a large amount of those who like Nxtty is commenting in ignorance about how Facebook actually works. I wonder then how much such a commenter could really understand about Facebook advertising to make such hard line assertions and how much value we should attribute to their uneducated assumptions?

If you go to https://www.facebook.com/645168825569486/photos/a.650530295033339.1073741828.645168825569486/715976335155401/?type=1&theater and click on the "33,xxx people like this", you can see the list of people. There are a TON of 10 year old girls in there, more than the few I posted.

Btw, 10 year olds obviously fake their age on Facebook, that's how they get access.
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I think all I was doing here was telling the developer that his marketing strategy is pretty flawed. If bringing a waste of precious resources (time, money etc) is wrong, I apologize.
Yes, I have a new account bUt none of my posts were made off previous biases or misunderstandings. I am new as a member and I intend to explore what the community has to offer.
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I think all I was doing here was telling the developer that his marketing strategy is pretty flawed.

You described landomata as "an artist trying to deceive people."

Yes, I have a new account bUt none of my posts were made off previous biases or misunderstandings. I am new as a member and I intend to explore what the community has to offer.

Welcome aboard! We're a community with a lot of talented folks that build services, and many of us test them before they're released into the wild. If you own an android/iPhone, you might even have a chance to beta test Nxtty if you PM landomata your UDID. :)
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I think all I was doing here was telling the developer that his marketing strategy is pretty flawed.

You told it as a fact that the comments are paid and the likes are bought. And said that they're lying.
Due diligence goes both ways when accusing someone openly.

I agree the likes don't look organic. But people should watch the vid about how facebook works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVfHeWTKjag
In short: if someone uses the normal promotion, then even the official fb corporation might engage in faking likes. And even if you do none of it, you might still get bots liking your page.
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1. He told people the likes came out of the press release
2. I pointed out it isn't - and that majority of it are liked (gave proof, thats due diligence)
3. I explained why some of this could be bots - he still didn't budge - started talking of twitter (and now am going to do a check on twitter too )
4. He stuck to the story that most of these are Indians and it came from the PR release that occured earlier  - I explained no major news outlet has covered the project and even if it did , it wouldn't have an impact large enough to bring in 15000 likes
6. He reverts to accepting the likes came as a result of paid marketing
7. An admin here shows - that most of the likes came from young girls in a remote part of the country ([please tell me how they follow the news outlet that did the PR release0
8. Multiple users here ask him why he can't just admit this is paid likes

I've worked with several start-ups in India - one of which got acquired and I've had a role to play in their social media strategy. If 3 years of experience in the field has taught me anything it is to see right from wrong, bull shit from facts - truth be told none of that is needed to see how his "engaged' fans have nothing to do with the project.

I am not going to waste my time further explaining how the marketing is flawed and the developer has been lying.
If the project is good, the product delivers and the people like it - the likes will flow . Its given and I wish him all the best with it.
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I just need to say this whole nxtty advertising has been really unprofessional. Also, that Twin guy and that jeffdiesel are douches.. Speaking of likes, Nxt has bought thousands of 'likes' as well. Fact!
« Last Edit: September 16, 2014, 11:16:17 am by juicyjuice87 »
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I am rather saddened that this whole project is starting to become overwhelmed by a discussion of Facebook Likes of all things.. :/

I don't particularly care about FB likes or Twitter followers, to be honest.

At the very least, they should not be a reason over which you should shoot down an entire project.

I am not going to waste my time further explaining how the marketing is flawed and the developer has been lying.
If the project is good, the product delivers and the people like it - the likes will flow . Its given and I wish him all the best with it.


I completely agree with the last sentence.
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Speaking of likes, Nxt has bought thousands of 'likes' as well. Fact!

Not true if you are talking about this FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/nxtcrypto

As I stated, I have paid to promote certain posts into targeted feeds. Never once was anyone compelled to like a post or paid to like the page. The story just appeared in their feed for them to read or like or ignore. This was a good way to get our news in front of people who already had an interest in Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. I paid for it. I take credit for it. You're welcome. Back to the topic of what a great app Nxtty is now! :)

So sorry I have to address this here.
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Well, at least NXTTY got much more attention now  :)

The whole damn thing is not important. What is important is being honest. Say as it is. If they're bought, so what. But say as it is.
If people feel one is lying, they start to wonder if one lies about other things too. That could be becoma a problem.


Honesty is the biggest value if you setup something in crypto. Everyone is (should be) paranoid in this area.
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I am rather saddened that this whole project is starting to become overwhelmed by a discussion of Facebook Likes of all things.. :/

I don't particularly care about FB likes or Twitter followers, to be honest.

At the very least, they should not be a reason over which you should shoot down an entire project.

I am not going to waste my time further explaining how the marketing is flawed and the developer has been lying.
If the project is good, the product delivers and the people like it - the likes will flow . Its given and I wish him all the best with it.


I completely agree with the last sentence.

I also agree
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Well, at least NXTTY got much more attention now  :)

The whole damn thing is not important. What is important is being honest. Say as it is. If they're bought, so what. But say as it is.
If people feel one is lying, they start to wonder if one lies about other things too. That could be becoma a problem.


Honesty is the biggest value if you setup something in crypto. Everyone is (should be) paranoid in this area.
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ANNOUCEMENT:

Both iOS and Android beta cryptomessenger will sent out today to select testers.

If you could like to test please PM because there are some instructions which you must follow.

Its FASTTTTTTTTTTT  ;D
« Last Edit: September 16, 2014, 02:05:35 pm by landomata »
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Well here I am

Again i read all the posts since our new (out of the blue) poster arrived to warn us about nxtty,
like i have said before i like to keep things SIMPLE so i only have one question

1.Why is it SO hard to believe that India a Country with 1.2 Billion people OF which
904 Million have cell phones that TEXT and of that 904 Million 250 Million have Facebook accounts and of those 250 Million nxtty gets a measly 16,000 like on its page?
isn't that like 0.00006% of the 250 million Face book accounts JUST in one Country India?

And like i said before as my dad always told me, that i wasn't the sharpest saw blade in the mill BUT he did also say i had the uncanny ability to smell bull chit from great distances.

Hence i cut my teeth on the Pinksheet/OTC boards since 2001 and can smell one of these below a mile away

So i am calling it on our new Fortune 500 Company marketer that just happens to find his way to nxtty from India which he claims nobody there has ever heard of Nxtty?.Opps but He did??

Ps. i have no such opinion on wesleyh. I just think he is a bit skeptical of Nxtty and highly
protective of the NXT eco-system as he should be!


IMO nxtty could/will be the vehicle that brings BOTH crypto-currencies AND secure messaging
to the MASSES!. The wallet and tipping are pure Genius!! and i think the people behind it are honestly trying to promote it the right way

God help us ALL if i am wrong for i fear it will harm the NXT system beyond repair..















« Last Edit: September 16, 2014, 04:06:15 pm by trollstocker »
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I read once that India (as well as Pakistan) do read all SMS messages and censor them. So I could imagine there being a good market for encryption.
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IMO nxtty could/will be the vehicle that brings BOTH crypto-currencies AND secure messaging
to the MASSES!. The wallet and tipping are pure Genius!! and i think the people behind it are honestly trying to promote it the right way

God help us ALL if i am wrong for i fear it will harm the NXT system beyond repair..

To be honest I think we stand just as much chance for survival as any altcoin out there right now.

But we will try to build this like a regular business....even if we make a dollar a day in profit we will continue as we are riding a trend and "NO ONE" knows where it's heading.

Our aim now....gain a tight group of owner/users who will evangelize to their own local networks across the globe.

"local network effect".
« Last Edit: September 16, 2014, 03:55:08 pm by landomata »
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I read once that India (as well as Pakistan) do read all SMS messages and censor them. So I could imagine there being a good market for encryption.

Yep, also they demanded the Blackberry keys... http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/10/4510904/blackberry-makes-surveillance-concessions-ending-dispute-with-india
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Bingo@!!@..
organically grown is better than mass produced any day!

The Key is to get it right and as close to 100% bug free before it is released
the people today are "The headline is the story" crowd..we have the attention span of a Gnat
most of us anyhow

So you need to grab it AND Keep it..IMO the Tip function and  the Crypto-Currency Rabbit Hole should do the trick
  I never heard of Bitcoin before April 2013,But have been hooked ever since,and i am A boomer
and am unable and unwilling to go back EVER!

You, Nxt and your team are Bold Pioneers sailing in the digital sea of CHANGE! Ahead is a land of promise.A land the way it used to be only better,where a handshake used to mean something,now it's decentralized trading and peer to peer transactions and open sourced software! and IF you folks pull it off lando a land where we can start to take the control back from the crooked ones in power today all over the World

Nxtty could be the New place everyone goes to escape The Matrix..The ONE place ONLY you and the one you're talking to know what each of you are feeling!

Onward!! :)







« Last Edit: September 16, 2014, 04:52:06 pm by trollstocker »
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Please explain the following

1. Why are most of the accounts on his page blocked/dead now?
2. Why are most of those people talking stuff that have zero relation to the post and promoting pointless services?
3. Why are most of those people 10 year golds as an admin here pointed out?
4. Why hasn't the developer really answered any of the questions I posted prior to this?
5. Why is the engagement so fucked up on these pages?



I am done posting about this . You are bound to having your opinion and I have the right to mine.
I have repeatedly backed my statements with proof / explanation on what must've gone wrong/been done.
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I read once that India (as well as Pakistan) do read all SMS messages and censor them. So I could imagine there being a good market for encryption.

Which is why a huge amount of them use Whatsapp. It is very popular in Africa as well.
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