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Nxt Discussion => Nxt General Discussion => Topic started by: bahamapascal on August 06, 2014, 12:00:34 pm

Title: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bahamapascal on August 06, 2014, 12:00:34 pm
I am amazed to see how popular Nxtty already is on facebook. I saw it has almost 9000 likes and there are a damn lot of people commenting and "liking" on there, most of them (I assume) are not Nxters or Bitcoiners.
Facebook page of Nxtty: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Nxtty/645168825569486?fref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Nxtty/645168825569486?fref=nf)

What do you guys think, might Nxtty once its released be a concurrent to WhatsApp? How do you think will that affect the adoption of Nxt itself?

And for those of you that know more about the tech side, what would happen to the blockchain if million of people use Nxtty for there messages?


Would love to hear your thoughts and speculations :D

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Nxter on August 06, 2014, 12:04:26 pm
8888 likes!!   ;D

I feel now bad of liking it, i will mess this number...   ;D
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bahamapascal on August 06, 2014, 12:12:03 pm
8888 likes!!   ;D

I feel now bad of liking it, i will mess this number...   ;D

8890 already :D
Interesting, 4 likes in mayby the last 20 min.

Any one actually know if its really instant messaging or if the messages will only appear with the next block?
 
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on August 06, 2014, 12:13:11 pm
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Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: KarlKarlsson on August 06, 2014, 12:20:42 pm
I read somewhere that the messages aren't recorded in the blockchain but rather on an internal server runned by Nxtty owners. Or am I wrong?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 06, 2014, 12:43:39 pm
I read somewhere that the messages aren't recorded in the blockchain but rather on an internal server runned by Nxtty owners. Or am I wrong?

Yes you are right,  messages are routed thru our server and not the blockchain.

The messages are encrypted locally in the app before being sent to the server and can only be decrypted by the receiver locally in his own app.

We can't decrypt the messages being routed thru the server, they are useless to us.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 06, 2014, 12:46:59 pm
It all comes down to the user experience of the app.

The beta Android version was a little bit dissapointing for me. But once it works like I'm imagining it, I will be recommending Nxtty to all my friends.

There have been much improvement on Android already today...the app will be much better in a weeks time.

iOS version is much much more user friendly at the moment.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 06, 2014, 12:51:59 pm
PUBLIC CHAT will be a completely different service than what Whatsapp currently offers.

Never miss international breaking news again or feel left out of global discussions that affect our world.

Nxtty Public Chat.

Add your voice.   :)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bahamapascal on August 06, 2014, 01:09:28 pm
@ Faith: Why is that, what was it that you did not like? Or is it a secret as it was a closed beta test and things that might still change in the final version (GUI etz.)?

@ landomat: Thanks for dropping in, that sounds like a good solution with the servers. In the end, will the messages be saved on the blockchain? If so, will they be merged  or will each message be send individually?



Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 06, 2014, 01:13:21 pm

@ landomat: Thanks for dropping in, that sounds like a good solution with the servers. In the end, will the messages be saved on the blockchain? If so, will they be merged  or will each message be send individually?

No, we will never add any messages to the Blockchain. 
 
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: _mr_e on August 06, 2014, 01:42:05 pm
I read somewhere that the messages aren't recorded in the blockchain but rather on an internal server runned by Nxtty owners. Or am I wrong?

Yes you are right,  messages are routed thru our server and not the blockchain.

The messages are encrypted locally in the app before being sent to the server and can only be decrypted by the receiver locally in his own app.

We can't decrypt the messages being routed thru the server, they are useless to us.

So what does this app even have to do with nxt?!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on August 06, 2014, 01:47:32 pm
@ Faith: Why is that, what was it that you did not like? Or is it a secret as it was a closed beta test and things that might still change in the final version (GUI etz.)?

@ landomat: Thanks for dropping in, that sounds like a good solution with the servers. In the end, will the messages be saved on the blockchain? If so, will they be merged  or will each message be send individually?

https://nxtforum.org/nxt-mobile-app-co/nxt-mobile-applications-company/msg76454/#msg76454 (https://nxtforum.org/nxt-mobile-app-co/nxt-mobile-applications-company/msg76454/#msg76454)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: m30188 on August 06, 2014, 01:50:18 pm
So what does this app even have to do with nxt?!
+1
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 06, 2014, 02:10:39 pm
So what does this app even have to do with nxt?!

Nxtty runs on NRS (Nxt Resource Software) just doesn't use Arbitrary Messages.

NRS is not just about AM.  :)




Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on August 06, 2014, 02:11:24 pm
It all comes down to the user experience of the app.

The beta Android version was a little bit dissapointing for me. But once it works like I'm imaging it, I will be recommending Nxtty to all my friends.

Hey thats not fair to be down on the first release of admitted unpolished beta software. I chatted with Lando via Nxtty yesterday. Lots of features to come.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on August 06, 2014, 02:14:48 pm
So what does this app even have to do with nxt?!

Nxtty runs on NRS (Nxt Resource Software) just doesn't use Arbitrary Messages.

NRS is not just about AM.  :)

I assume you are running on NRS nodes, can you give us a little more hints at how this works? Do you have a parallel chain? Any info for the curious?

PM if you want, and I will keep a secret. ;)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on August 06, 2014, 02:29:39 pm
It all comes down to the user experience of the app.

The beta Android version was a little bit dissapointing for me. But once it works like I'm imaging it, I will be recommending Nxtty to all my friends.

Hey thats not fair to be down on the first release of admitted unpolished beta software. I chatted with Lando via Nxtty yesterday. Lots of features to come.
I know.

I believe in Nxtty from the start. I have sended some emoticons in the chat yesterday as well.

I just hope the final version will meet my expectations.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: m30188 on August 06, 2014, 02:44:09 pm
How does the app differ from Threema? How does NRS add functionality?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TimmyD on August 06, 2014, 03:05:30 pm
i want this app lol
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on August 06, 2014, 04:03:05 pm
Soon Timmy. 3 weeks it will be on the app stores.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: _mr_e on August 06, 2014, 04:48:31 pm
So what does this app even have to do with nxt?!

Nxtty runs on NRS (Nxt Resource Software) just doesn't use Arbitrary Messages.

NRS is not just about AM.  :)

I wish I had any idea what this meant. lol. Still new to Nxt... what is Nxt Resource Software?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 06, 2014, 06:31:19 pm
So what does this app even have to do with nxt?!

Nxtty runs on NRS (Nxt Resource Software) just doesn't use Arbitrary Messages.

NRS is not just about AM.  :)

I wish I had any idea what this meant. lol. Still new to Nxt... what is Nxt Resource Software?

NRS == Nxt Crypto
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: _mr_e on August 07, 2014, 06:27:12 pm
So what does this app even have to do with nxt?!

Nxtty runs on NRS (Nxt Resource Software) just doesn't use Arbitrary Messages.

NRS is not just about AM.  :)

I wish I had any idea what this meant. lol. Still new to Nxt... what is Nxt Resource Software?

NRS == Nxt Crypto

So, Nxtty runs on Nxt Crypto? What does that even mean? I still have no idea how this app is using anything to do with nxt. I am now more confused. I am trying to understand what exactly this app will do differently then any other chat app and how it uses nxt?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 07, 2014, 07:57:24 pm
So, Nxtty runs on Nxt Crypto? What does that even mean? I still have no idea how this app is using anything to do with nxt. I am now more confused. I am trying to understand what exactly this app will do differently then any other chat app and how it uses nxt?

Since you mentioned you are new to Nxt I recommend that you first understand fully what Nxt is. 

Nxt crypto platform is very flexible....that was BCNext's intention.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: _mr_e on August 07, 2014, 09:33:10 pm
I do have a pretty good understanding of what nxt is. What i dont understand is what this chat app is using nxt for? I'm not sure why it is so difficult for anyone to explain this more clearly? What feature is different from other chat apps due to its use of nxt? Is this question really so difficult?
Title: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on August 07, 2014, 09:34:10 pm
I do have a pretty good understanding of what nxt is. What i dont understand is what this chat app is using nxt for? I'm not sure why it is so difficult for anyone to explain this more clearly?

He will explain it after everything is launched.

Have a little bit of patience.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: _mr_e on August 07, 2014, 09:36:50 pm
I do have a pretty good understanding of what nxt is. What i dont understand is what this chat app is using nxt for? I'm not sure why it is so difficult for anyone to explain this more clearly?

He will explain it after everything is launched.

Have a little bit of patience.

So the feature info isnt released, I didn't realize that. Sorry.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Pilot on August 07, 2014, 10:06:04 pm
I do have a pretty good understanding of what nxt is. What i dont understand is what this chat app is using nxt for? I'm not sure why it is so difficult for anyone to explain this more clearly?

He will explain it after everything is launched.

Have a little bit of patience.

So the feature info isnt released, I didn't realize that. Sorry.

No worries, I have the same exact questions. ;) I just don't see what this will bring over the dozens of chat apps out there and how it is tied to nxt. Unless you can send Nxt to those you chat with.

Waiting... <<popcorn>>
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Mexxer on August 08, 2014, 07:30:11 am
Yeah I don't really get how it's connected to Nxt either.

If the blockchain isn't used to send messages and they are stored on a central server... what's left?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 08, 2014, 07:47:40 am

No worries, I have the same exact questions. ;) I just don't see what this will bring over the dozens of chat apps out there and how it is tied to nxt. Unless you can send Nxt to those you chat with.

Waiting... <<popcorn>>

Yes we can do PEER to PEER Nxt transfers if we wanted right now.  But our focus is messaging at this time.

Plus international breaking news. :)


We need to 1st build our userbase then EDUCATE them regarding crypto's.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 08, 2014, 07:48:48 am
Yeah I don't really get how it's connected to Nxt either.

If the blockchain isn't used to send messages and they are stored on a central server... what's left?

ALOT
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Mexxer on August 08, 2014, 07:56:50 am
Yeah I don't really get how it's connected to Nxt either.

If the blockchain isn't used to send messages and they are stored on a central server... what's left?

ALOT

I meant for a messaging app...

But I guess I will just wait for the release of more info :) Congratulations on the big demand though!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 08, 2014, 07:59:53 am
Yeah I don't really get how it's connected to Nxt either.

If the blockchain isn't used to send messages and they are stored on a central server... what's left?

ALOT

I meant for a messaging app...

But I guess I will just wait for the release of more info :) Congratulations on the big demand though!

99% of target users never used crypto's before ...it will take time to EDUCATE them.  We will start with baby steps, let them 1st love our services...then we will expand.


I really like the International breaking news service.   :)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: kodtycoon on August 08, 2014, 09:07:07 am
Yeah I don't really get how it's connected to Nxt either.

If the blockchain isn't used to send messages and they are stored on a central server... what's left?

ALOT

I meant for a messaging app...

But I guess I will just wait for the release of more info :) Congratulations on the big demand though!

99% of target users never used crypto's before ...it will take time to EDUCATE them.  We will start with baby steps, let them 1st love our services...then we will expand.


I really like the International breaking news service.   :)
who Will be the source of the news? I hope it's not Fox news lol

Sent from my C1905 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 08, 2014, 10:59:55 am
Its not Fox or anyone along those lines.  :)

We use a leading news service vendor.....they just report breaking news.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on August 20, 2014, 01:45:15 pm
IndiaMikeZulu in da house!! I hold some nxtty, and expect to buy more. Wanna become a 'Nxt-spert.'

We are australian, and always keen to contact other Australian crypto geeks. Gotta say: I do have a very big many lot to learn about nxt. Been busy with commercial development for a good while.

Mark
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: qbd1313 on August 20, 2014, 02:40:14 pm
IndiaMikeZulu in da house!! I hold some nxtty, and expect to buy more. Wanna become a 'Nxt-spert.'

We are australian, and always keen to contact other Australian crypto geeks. Gotta say: I do have a very big many lot to learn about nxt. Been busy with commercial development for a good while.

Mark
welcome
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 20, 2014, 04:29:01 pm
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Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bahamapascal on August 20, 2014, 05:34:05 pm

@ landomat: Thanks for dropping in, that sounds like a good solution with the servers. In the end, will the messages be saved on the blockchain? If so, will they be merged  or will each message be send individually?

No, we will never add any messages to the Blockchain.

First of sorry for not replying earlier. I had some real life stuff that needed/needs my attention.

But sounds like a good approach. So basically you use nxt just to encrypt/decrypt the messages. Good Idea IMO.

What will Nxttycoins be? Will they pay dividends when you make money? Would love to buy some, just not sure what they are for :P



Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 20, 2014, 05:38:49 pm

But sounds like a good approach. So basically you use nxt just to encrypt/decrypt the messages. Good Idea IMO.

What will Nxttycoins be? Will they pay dividends when you make money? Would love to buy some, just not sure what they are for :P


We use all the parts of nxt actually except AM becuz it would cost alot of nxt to send messages.

It would not be feasible over the long term.

We can reveal the wallet but we chose not to at this point in time.

Actually the cost is not too bad if you factor in that it's still cheaper than international SMS.....the main problem is TIME...to wait 2 minutes for an instant message is not cool.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bahamapascal on August 20, 2014, 06:19:16 pm

But sounds like a good approach. So basically you use nxt just to encrypt/decrypt the messages. Good Idea IMO.

What will Nxttycoins be? Will they pay dividends when you make money? Would love to buy some, just not sure what they are for :P


We use all the parts of nxt actually except AM becuz it would cost alot of nxt to send messages.

It would not be feasible over the long term.

We can reveal the wallet but we chose not to at this point in time.

Actually the cost is not too bad if you factor in that it's still cheaper than international SMS.....the main problem is TIME...to wait 2 minutes for an instant message is not cool.

Well that would be bad if an instant messenger would really take 2 minuets to display a message :D
For e-mail that might work though.

So when you release the wallet future, will the users be able to send and receive Nxt or will it be Nexttycoins?

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 20, 2014, 06:27:36 pm

So when you release the wallet future, will the users be able to send and receive Nxt or will it be Nexttycoins?

We might have a multi-wallet.....it all depends on the education level of our users when the time is right.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on August 20, 2014, 07:53:16 pm
Hey is there a new Android beta to test? PM a link please
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on August 20, 2014, 07:56:55 pm
I'm trying the 814 but keep getting null error on choosing a nick.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: aysyr on August 20, 2014, 08:53:28 pm
Will you be able to link your NXT account so you can receive message notifications if your account receives a message?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Nxter on August 20, 2014, 09:08:20 pm
Will there be a windows phone version??
I would love to use this app, but i have a windows phone... ::)
Dont forget the people like me  :'(
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on August 20, 2014, 11:00:28 pm
Guys: when you buy or sell Nxttys, is the fee 1% or 1 Nxt?

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bahamapascal on August 21, 2014, 03:12:23 am
Guys: when you buy or sell Nxttys, is the fee 1% or 1 Nxt?

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia

1 Nxt, regardles of the amount you buy or sell.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bahamapascal on August 21, 2014, 03:19:09 am

So when you release the wallet future, will the users be able to send and receive Nxt or will it be Nexttycoins?

We might have a multi-wallet.....it all depends on the education level of our users when the time is right.


Well, must admit I still don't get exactly. But I guess its not important now any ways.


But what I would love to know is, why would I buy nxttycoin? What will it make have value?



Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: juicyjuice87 on August 21, 2014, 04:04:00 am
Why would I use nxtty over something like wickr?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 21, 2014, 04:34:35 am
Will you be able to link your NXT account so you can receive message notifications if your account receives a message?

Well not your current nxt account as you will need to create a brand new one once you download the app.  It is very simple if you test out the beta you will see.

Also notifications are enabled from today's version.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 21, 2014, 04:37:33 am

But what I would love to know is, why would I buy nxttycoin? What will it make have value?

Its value as an ownership stake of NMAC....but also the flexibility it offers to include into a variety of services inside & outside our app.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 21, 2014, 04:39:28 am
Why would I use nxtty over something like wickr?

You can make nxtty to nxtty calls anonymously for free over wifi & 3G...this is one reason.

We are like Skype (Calling), Whatsapp (Ease of use messaging) & Bitmessage (security) all in one.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Mexxer on August 21, 2014, 07:02:34 am
This looks quite promising!

Quick question ... how in the hell did you manage to get so many facebook fans in India before even launching it? You already have over 10k fans and a bunch of Indians commenting and awaiting the app :)

Are you from India? Did you market the app in India?




or are they fake / bought  ;-)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: juicyjuice87 on August 21, 2014, 08:54:55 am
This looks quite promising!

Quick question ... how in the hell did you manage to get so many facebook fans in India before even launching it? You already have over 10k fans and a bunch of Indians commenting and awaiting the app :)

Are you from India? Did you market the app in India?




or are they fake / bought  ;-)


+1
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on August 21, 2014, 10:39:46 am
@ Hey, Bahamapascal, it's pretty cool that, although the WWW is immense, I am starting to know people -- where else have we been on the same forum?

Mark, Western Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 21, 2014, 11:42:19 am
This looks quite promising!

Quick question ... how in the hell did you manage to get so many facebook fans in India before even launching it? You already have over 10k fans and a bunch of Indians commenting and awaiting the app :)

Are you from India? Did you market the app in India?

or are they fake / bought  ;-)

On average the most users of facebook is in India....I think China would be higher but Facebook is not allowed in China.

India has a billion + people....the surprise is Maurituis & Maldives as they have very little people but have percentage of fans liking our page.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bahamapascal on August 21, 2014, 11:47:00 am
@ Hey, Bahamapascal, it's pretty cool that, although the WWW is immense, I am starting to know people -- where else have we been on the same forum?

Mark, Western Australia

CryptogenicBullion forum, over at Bitcointalk;)

BTW, nice to see you here. Welcome in the Nxt community :)

Why would I use nxtty over something like wickr?

You can make nxtty to nxtty calls anonymously for free over wifi & 3G...this is one reason.

We are like Skype (Calling), Whatsapp (Ease of use messaging) & Bitmessage (security) all in one.

WOW!!! Calling would be awesome!

Are voice calls also encrypted  like the messages?



But what I would love to know is, why would I buy nxttycoin? What will it make have value?

Its value as an ownership stake of NMAC....but also the flexibility it offers to include into a variety of services inside & outside our app.

What is NMAC and in what way dose the ownership work?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 21, 2014, 11:49:37 am

WOW!!! Calling would be awesome!

Are voice calls also encrypted  like the messages?

What is NMAC and in what way dose the ownership work?

Calls are not encrypted at this time but they are anonymous. 

NMAC == Nxt Mobile Applications Company

1 billion units of Nxttycoin == 1 billion parts of NMAC

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: valarmg on August 21, 2014, 02:03:35 pm
This looks quite promising!

Quick question ... how in the hell did you manage to get so many facebook fans in India before even launching it? You already have over 10k fans and a bunch of Indians commenting and awaiting the app :)

Are you from India? Did you market the app in India?

or are they fake / bought  ;-)

On average the most users of facebook is in India....I think China would be higher but Facebook is not allowed in China.

India has a billion + people....the surprise is Maurituis & Maldives as they have very little people but have percentage of fans liking our page.

This is an interesting video about facebook likes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVfHeWTKjag Not saying it's a problem here but something to be aware of. Facebook ads can miss their mark. Engagement is much more important than likes.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 21, 2014, 02:16:15 pm

This is an interesting video about facebook likes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVfHeWTKjag Not saying it's a problem here but something to be aware of. Facebook ads can miss their mark. Engagement is much more important than likes.

I try to keep track of all the matrices we can.  I've developed some customized once which tell me whats happening on a post by post basis.  It has been a great learning experience.  I also use some analytic services that provide some good info as to what is actually happening. 
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: juicyjuice87 on August 21, 2014, 10:53:51 pm
I think NXT has a lot of fake 'likes'. Just saying..
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on August 22, 2014, 02:19:04 am
@ Bahamapascal: how rude of me. Of course! We shall have coffee one day, and talk about that period.

Actually, IndiaMikeZulu has been heavily invested in NXT since Day One. We bought a wallopin' chunk of them as soon as we realised what they represented.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 22, 2014, 04:52:13 am
I think NXT has a lot of fake 'likes'. Just saying..

I doubt it...as we generally can test which post of ours generate how many page likes.

Plus it really doesn't matter...more important is our engagement matrices which we follow.

Page engagement is much more important....and we track this on a day by day basis.  We know if it's falling or increasing.



Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on August 22, 2014, 05:49:06 am
Just bought a half a million NXTTY. My skills are more in community building. If you want to assign me a task, I will do my best with it.

And I hope to be selling NXTTY for physical bullion within a year! Any Australian NTTY Coiners here yet??

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Western Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 22, 2014, 06:01:57 am
Just bought a half a million NXTTY. My skills are more in community building. If you want to assign me a task, I will do my best with it.

And I hope to be selling NXTTY for physical bullion within a year! Any Australian NTTY Coiners here yet??

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Western Australia

Can you help us with getting the word out on BTT....that would be greatly appreciated.

We need some great brand Ambassadors.


Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: juicyjuice87 on August 22, 2014, 10:21:53 am
Just bought a half a million NXTTY. My skills are more in community building. If you want to assign me a task, I will do my best with it.

And I hope to be selling NXTTY for physical bullion within a year! Any Australian NTTY Coiners here yet??

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Western Australia

Yeah. I have a few. No idea what to expect though
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on August 23, 2014, 03:29:41 am
I gave a little pep reply on reddit.. now that we have an app, i'm happy to help spread the word
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on August 23, 2014, 07:10:08 am
@ Landomata

'BTT'?? (How embarassing!)

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Western Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 23, 2014, 07:20:12 am
@ Landomata

'BTT'?? (How embarassing!)

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Western Australia

It looks like thread is little dead  ;D

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on August 23, 2014, 08:06:30 am
Just bougth some Nxtty, Nice work Landomata. Your Nxtty app seems getting more solid ground.

I have a question, do the call to call are free and encrypted?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: noitev on August 23, 2014, 08:13:41 am
Whoa, just saw this ,this is sweet :D
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 23, 2014, 08:14:49 am
Just bougth some Nxtty, Nice work Landomata. Your Nxtty app seems getting more solid ground.

I have a question, do the call to call are free and encrypted?

Yes they are free.

No they are not encrypted...but they are anonymous.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on August 23, 2014, 08:21:47 am
Just bougth some Nxtty, Nice work Landomata. Your Nxtty app seems getting more solid ground.

I have a question, do the call to call are free and encrypted?

Yes they are free.

No they are not encrypted...but they are anonymous.

is it plan to encrypt the call one day?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 23, 2014, 08:26:10 am
Just bougth some Nxtty, Nice work Landomata. Your Nxtty app seems getting more solid ground.

I have a question, do the call to call are free and encrypted?

Yes they are free.

No they are not encrypted...but they are anonymous.

is it plan to encrypt the call one day?

Yes, we are actively R&D this area....we just didn't want to delay launch because of this.

So this is a goal we are working towards.

Also since we will have Nxtty to mobile/Landline calling....its also little bit difficult/almost impossible to encrypt these types of calls.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on August 23, 2014, 08:28:41 am

Also since we will have Nxtty to mobile/Landline calling....its also little bit difficult/almost impossible to encrypt these types of calls.

Of course. I meant Nxtty to Nxtty call. Thank!

"Nxtty to mobile/Landline calling" free? I think not.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 23, 2014, 08:56:52 am

Also since we will have Nxtty to mobile/Landline calling....its also little bit difficult/almost impossible to encrypt these types of calls.

Of course. I meant Nxtty to Nxtty call. Thank!

"Nxtty to mobile/Landline calling" free? I think not.

Actually I meant it would be impossible highly difficult to encrypt Nxtty to mobile/landline calls.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on August 23, 2014, 11:44:52 am
What is 'BTT' -- and then I shall dash over there and revive it (or any other site you want me to . . . )

Price well up today!

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Western Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: kodtycoon on August 23, 2014, 12:11:34 pm
What is 'BTT' -- and then I shall dash over there and revive it (or any other site you want me to . . . )

Price well up today!

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Western Australia

btt= https://bitcointalk.org/index.php
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on August 25, 2014, 03:27:24 am
Help, please, guys:

I bought 500,000 'Nxttycoins' -- but they aren't 'Nxttycoin,' the coin listed on Coinmarketcap.

Both are listed as 'The official cryptocurrency of the Nxt Mobile Applications Company.'

?????????????

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: JohnHolmes on August 25, 2014, 03:46:17 am
Help, please, guys:

I bought 500,000 'Nxttycoins' -- but they aren't 'Nxttycoin,' the coin listed on Coinmarketcap.

Both are listed as 'The official cryptocurrency of the Nxt Mobile Applications Company.'

?????????????

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia

Ouch, I think you got scammed, sorry! The real asset is this one assetid: 18128686802152832026

Nxttycoin (no 's' on the end)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 25, 2014, 06:01:39 am
Help, please, guys:

I bought 500,000 'Nxttycoins' -- but they aren't 'Nxttycoin,' the coin listed on Coinmarketcap.

Both are listed as 'The official cryptocurrency of the Nxt Mobile Applications Company.'

?????????????

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia

Please PM me your Nxt account which you used for the purchase.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on August 25, 2014, 07:43:09 am
My actual NXT account isn't in the loop yet, Landomata. I sent BTC to SAE. Was given NXT. Traded NXT for Nyttycoins on SAE. Both the Nyttycoin and the Nttycoins are still on SAE. 

(We have been NXT'ers since Day One; but I have another task in IndiaMikeZulu, so I am only just learning the actual trading.)
 
Your advice??

Mark
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 25, 2014, 07:52:27 am
My actual NXT account isn't in the loop yet, Landomata. I sent BTC to SAE. Was given NXT. Traded NXT for Nyttycoins on SAE. Both the Nyttycoin and the Nttycoins are still on SAE. 

(We have been NXT'ers since Day One; but I have another task in IndiaMikeZulu, so I am only just learning the actual trading.)
 
Your advice??

Mark

Inside SAE you should be able to find the Nxt account under account info.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on August 25, 2014, 08:16:04 am
Okay
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: kodtycoon on August 25, 2014, 11:04:29 am
looks like a big competitor could bite the dust! ;)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=735878.msg8521976#msg8521976

lando, are you able to claim that nxtty accounts are untraceable rather than just anonymous? :D

perhaps now is a good time to contact wallstreetjournal?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Wakasaki808 on August 25, 2014, 11:10:13 am
looks like a big competitor could bite the dust! ;)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=735878.msg8521976#msg8521976

lando, are you able to claim that nxtty accounts are untraceable rather than just anonymous? :D

perhaps now is a good time to contact wallstreetjournal?

Agree. People seem to be wanting at least an anonymous messaging service (or at least *ahem* secret  :P)

If you could advertise this app as a messaging service (rivaling Skype, WhatsApp, Snapchat, etc.) from the anonymous/encrypted angle. This app could skyrocket to popularity since people are worried all about their privacy now (Facebook Messenger, NSA, etc.)  Especially if you could integrate the way the app "Secret" worked this app has a real bright future for the fans of the App.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 25, 2014, 12:05:44 pm

Agree. People seem to be wanting at least an anonymous messaging service (or at least *ahem* secret  :P)

If you could advertise this app as a messaging service (rivaling Skype, WhatsApp, Snapchat, etc.) from the anonymous/encrypted angle. This app could skyrocket to popularity since people are worried all about their privacy now (Facebook Messenger, NSA, etc.)  Especially if you could integrate the way the app "Secret" worked this app has a real bright future for the fans of the App.

We are the world 1st mainstream cryptomessenger. Crypto messaging for the masses.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on August 25, 2014, 01:42:01 pm
IndiaMikeZulu -- disability-pensioner guy and overworked family-guy -- took the path of non-profit commercial development. We really did it hard. This gift has balanced the scales.

'Kay . . . let's promote this puppy!!

Mark (IndiaMikeZuluk), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on August 25, 2014, 02:28:56 pm
India Mike,

 The nxxtycoins is a known false account selling fake assets.
Please check the issuer I'd and the volume before you buy any assets.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on August 25, 2014, 09:49:12 pm
what happen if Nxtty worth more than Nxt in the near future? Is that possible?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: kodtycoon on August 25, 2014, 10:10:42 pm
what happen if Nxtty worth more than Nxt in the near future? Is that possible?

i dont see why it wouldnt be possible..

also that would be insane publicity for nxt if a nxt asset actually has a higher market cap than nxt itself.. theres very little liquidity on the sell order side so this could rise very very fast.. it aint even on an exchange yet for god sake lol haha imagine that.. a coin not on any traditional exchange getting higher on CMC than all these other big time coins :D
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on August 26, 2014, 12:54:03 am
why would it not be possible?

NXT is like the downjones, or citibank. Has value for its purpose. NXTTY is a real application that people can interact with in a way they understand. Something they can SPEND money on. With NXT all you can do is "Stake" it, With NXTTY you can send 1000 messages and add 20000 friends, who all have NO idea about NXT.

Tell me which Google / FaceBook / Etc will snap up? Oh Right, no way anyone can buy out NXT, nor any value in it. NXTTY and the users however are for sale and very valuable to an internet giant.



Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on August 26, 2014, 08:00:54 am
Posted some Nxttycoin info on the Reddit Doge Cryptocurrency thread. Will keep it current.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 26, 2014, 08:26:12 am
Posted some Nxttycoin info on the Reddit Doge Cryptocurrency thread. Will keep it current.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia

Thanks, can you post link here.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Wakasaki808 on August 26, 2014, 10:24:05 pm
Can't wait for release :)

When its released you guys should send emails to main tech blogs advertising this app and what it does. Will get loads of new people if anything just trying out the app because of curiosity even if they don't know anything about NXT.

English speaking sites like androidcentral, imore, phonedog, engadget, cnet, theverge, technobuffalo, android authority, pocketnow and xda-developers would be a good start. :)

btw I would like to try out the app, to see how it works and show to some of my family and friends if its okay :).
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on August 27, 2014, 12:37:07 am
I will keep this post updated:

http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2ekvy6/nxttycoin_and_nxts_secure_asset_exchange

@ Wakasaki: I think your notion of directly introducing friends and family to All Things Crypto it great. Keep us posted on the results.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Bob.Deng on August 27, 2014, 01:27:25 am
 :) good work, more application is needed.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on August 27, 2014, 08:37:09 am
Okay: androidcentral done. Tackle the rest tomorrow.

androidcentral, imore, phonedog, engadget, cnet, theverge, technobuffalo, android authority, pocketnow and xda-developers

M
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 27, 2014, 08:54:00 am
Okay: androidcentral done. Tackle the rest tomorrow.

androidcentral, imore, phonedog, engadget, cnet, theverge, technobuffalo, android authority, pocketnow and xda-developers

M

Please provide them only the below article written for blogs....ALSO provide our e-mail: bd@nxtty.com    ....if they have any questions, etc.


Word format below:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5xrhgxc3ttwk9an/Nxtty%20blog%20article%20-%201.doc?dl=0


Crypto messaging for the masses

Mobile phone messaging has raised a lot of concerns in the recent years because it's fairly easy to hack into the conversation of any person using computer applications. This is why the best way to protect your messaging efforts is to encrypt your messages, something that makes them a lot more secure.

With Nxtty you can safely and securely send messages to your friends without any worries. With the help of this application you have the ability to create your own friends list and contact them whenever you want without hassle. The application provides a powerful yet very easy to use identification system that cannot be broken, no matter the advanced techniques hackers try to use.

Additionally, Nxtty is created on a peer to peer cryptographic platform, which means that the encrypted data is not held on any additional server other than the Nxtty one, so the chances of your identity, friends list/messages being seen are nonexistent. The peer to peer crypto system is one of the main features that make it a great app, because with it you will have complete privacy, no matter what and who you speak with.

But the app is not only secure, it's also fun as well. It brings intelligent emoticons that are fun to watch and interact with. In addition to that, Nxtty comes with a major feature in the form of message destruction. This feature can be enabled at any given time and it will help you erase the messages you send to your friends using the app. All messages are sent from the sender but also from the receiver phone as well, and they will be removed from the app server immediately. If you choose to delete the message you can be sure that you won't be able to retrieve it any longer. There are multiple options to delete messages, at different times during the day. You can opt for a deletion every minute or every week, it all depends on your needs. This is what makes Nxtty very customizable because you can easily modify any feature the way you see fit.

All personal data is hidden when you send a message, in order to ensure that you remain anonymous at all times. It's crucial to ensure that your communication efforts are secure. If you value privacy and security, then you will surely enjoy using the Nxtty.

This tool comes with complete guarantee that the messages will not be spoofed. Additionally, you won't have to remember encryption keys anymore, because the app takes care of everything in the background. With Nxtty you will just have to enjoy a fun and secure messaging experience.

If you are looking for a way to chat with your friends or colleagues safely and without having someone eavesdrop on your conversations, then Nxtty is the best tool for you. It's secure, reliable, fast and very easy to use. Nxtty will be launching soon on Google play & Appstore.

You can follow Nxtty via social media:

1)   Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Nxtty/645168825569486

2)   Twitter: https://twitter.com/cryptomessenger





Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Pilot on August 27, 2014, 03:56:14 pm
So, if it is truly anonymous how do I know who I am chatting with? Ever get a text message from someone who's number you didn't have in your phone and you think... who is this? You could ask, but they could say they are anyone.

Secure is good, not so sure about anonymous.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jungian on August 27, 2014, 07:46:13 pm
So, if it is truly anonymous how do I know who I am chatting with? Ever get a text message from someone who's number you didn't have in your phone and you think... who is this? You could ask, but they could say they are anyone.

Secure is good, not so sure about anonymous.

Feel free to not talk to them if they don't want to post proof of existence?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 27, 2014, 08:33:15 pm
So, if it is truly anonymous how do I know who I am chatting with? Ever get a text message from someone who's number you didn't have in your phone and you think... who is this? You could ask, but they could say they are anyone.

Secure is good, not so sure about anonymous.

1st you need to either send the other person a friend request or they send you an invite.  Once either of you accept the invite then you can start messaging each other, any random person cannot message you.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on August 28, 2014, 08:41:18 am
@ Landomata: blog-text and email address. Roger.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on August 28, 2014, 09:03:43 am
(http://i.imgur.com/fmXlRba.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/yIOtiLk.jpg)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on August 28, 2014, 08:10:33 pm

Please provide them only the below article written for blogs....ALSO provide our e-mail: bd@nxtty.com    ....if they have any questions, etc.


Word format below:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5xrhgxc3ttwk9an/Nxtty%20blog%20article%20-%201.doc?dl=0


Crypto messaging for the masses

Mobile phone messaging has raised a lot of concerns in the recent years because it's fairly easy to hack into the conversation of any person using computer applications. This is why the best way to protect your messaging efforts is to encrypt your messages, something that makes them a lot more secure.

With Nxtty you can safely and securely send messages to your friends without any worries. With the help of this application you have the ability to create your own friends list and contact them whenever you want without hassle. The application provides a powerful yet very easy to use identification system that cannot be broken, no matter the advanced techniques hackers try to use.

Additionally, Nxtty is created on a peer to peer cryptographic platform, which means that the data is not held on any additional server other than the Nxtty one, so the chances of your identity, friends list/messages being seen are nonexistent. The peer to peer crypto system is one of the main features that make it a great app, because with it you will have complete privacy, no matter what and who you speak with.

But the app is not only secure, it's also fun as well. It brings intelligent emoticons that are fun to watch and interact with. In addition to that, Nxtty comes with a major feature in the form of message destruction. This feature can be enabled at any given time and it will help you erase the messages you send to your friends using the app. All messages are sent from the sender but also from the receiver phone as well, and they will be removed from the app server immediately. If you choose to delete the message you can be sure that you won't be able to retrieve it any longer. There are multiple options to delete messages, at different times during the day. You can opt for a deletion every minute or every week, it all depends on your needs. This is what makes Nxtty very customizable because you can easily modify any feature the way you see fit.

All personal data is hidden when you send a message, in order to ensure that you remain anonymous at all times. It's crucial to ensure that your communication efforts are secure. If you value privacy and security, then you will surely enjoy using the Nxtty.

This tool comes with complete guarantee that the messages will not be spoofed. Additionally, you won't have to remember encryption keys anymore, because the app takes care of everything in the background. With Nxtty you will just have to enjoy a fun and secure messaging experience.

If you are looking for a way to chat with your friends or colleagues safely and without having someone eavesdrop on your conversations, then Nxtty is the best tool for you. It's secure, reliable, fast and very easy to use. Nxtty will be launching soon on Google play & Appstore.

You can follow Nxtty via social media:

1)   Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Nxtty/645168825569486

2)   Twitter: https://twitter.com/cryptomessenger

BIG! HUGE! WOW!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on August 29, 2014, 05:45:06 am
Working my way through Wakasaki's list. Reading more about Nxxtycoin. Added a few Nxxtycoin to my portfolio.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 29, 2014, 06:06:24 am
Does anyone have contact to coindesk?

We can get the blog article on there.....


What are the cost?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on August 29, 2014, 06:08:04 am
What do you have in mind? get that published? or something bigger

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on August 29, 2014, 06:13:16 am
I have chatted with some people there and I sent a message
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 29, 2014, 06:13:37 am
What do you have in mind? get that published? or something bigger

Get it published.  ok great.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: devphp on August 29, 2014, 06:16:47 am
Additionally, Nxtty is created on a peer to peer cryptographic platform, which means that the data is not held on any additional server other than the Nxtty one...

Landomata, this sentence, and especially the bolded words, will most likely raise questions from readers of the promo material. Be prepared to give satisfying answers.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 29, 2014, 06:27:00 am
Additionally, Nxtty is created on a peer to peer cryptographic platform, which means that the data is not held on any additional server other than the Nxtty one...

Landomata, this sentence, and especially the bolded words, will most likely raise questions from readers of the promo material. Be prepared to give satisfying answers.

Only the encrypted data is held...so we can't do anything with it anyways.  :)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on August 29, 2014, 06:29:48 am
Additionally, Nxtty is created on a peer to peer cryptographic platform, which means that the encrypted data is not held on any additional server other than the Nxtty one...

Landomata, this sentence, and especially the bolded words, will most likely raise questions from readers of the promo material. Be prepared to give satisfying answers.

Only the encrypted data is held...so we can't do anything with it anyways.  :)

what about adding the word in bold.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 29, 2014, 06:33:17 am
Additionally, Nxtty is created on a peer to peer cryptographic platform, which means that the encrypted data is not held on any additional server other than the Nxtty one...

Landomata, this sentence, and especially the bolded words, will most likely raise questions from readers of the promo material. Be prepared to give satisfying answers.

Only the encrypted data is held...so we can't do anything with it anyways.  :)

what about adding the word in bold.

Ok will add it, thanks.

Original post has been changed..... new word file link added:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5xrhgxc3ttwk9an/Nxtty%20blog%20article%20-%201.doc?dl=0
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: whatnxt on August 29, 2014, 09:22:15 am
One thing you touch on that needs expanding is why I would want it?

With Nxtty you get better security than the German Prime Minister Angela Merkel had when she was hacked by the Americans and better security than she has now?

Txt messages are used for:
1)  important negotiations by politicians
2) discuss confidential details of cases by legal professionals
3) discuss patients (who ever they may be) by doctors
4) Business decisions and discussions.

These are all viable applications of the Nxtty that the average person can understand the importance of even if they do not understand the amazing technology that makes it possible.

Lets face it, most people do not care about the features or how it works just that it does work and the features they want are there. Your average Jo just wants to do stuff. You need to tell them about the stuff they can do. So enhanced self expression with intelligent emoticons and messages that stalkers like Google cannot read and use to send adverts to your phone are great:)

I think you guys are creating a great product, keep up the good work!






Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 29, 2014, 10:48:31 am
So enhanced self expression with intelligent emoticons and messages that stalkers like Google cannot read and use to send adverts to your phone are great:)

Thanks....Ok this is a very powerful marketing angle...we will definitely look at utilizing it.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Wakasaki808 on August 30, 2014, 12:43:24 am
Hey lando, wondering what happens if you send messages->Delete the app-> and load the app on a new/different device. Does the messages save to an account you can sign on or is it deleted forever?

Are we assigned an account to use that we can keep both the account and messages forever? or is a new account created and messages deleted every time we install the app on a new device?

Just asking because there are people will most likely want the option to at least save their conversations even if they are on a new device or reinstall the app.

Also can I try out the app as a beta tester(android and iOS user both). Wouldn't mind putting it to its paces :p.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 30, 2014, 05:24:45 am
Hey lando, wondering what happens if you send messages->Delete the app-> and load the app on a new/different device. Does the messages save to an account you can sign on or is it deleted forever?

Are we assigned an account to use that we can keep both the account and messages forever? or is a new account created and messages deleted every time we install the app on a new device?

Just asking because there are people will most likely want the option to at least save their conversations even if they are on a new device or reinstall the app.

Also can I try out the app as a beta tester(android and iOS user both). Wouldn't mind putting it to its paces :p.

1) Messages are save to your account, you just need to remember your login details.  This means you can sign in from any Android or iOS device.

2) The account and messages in it are yours forever.

3) Sent you PM.


Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: swartzfeger on August 30, 2014, 06:57:06 am
landomata, would love to beta test if it's still open -- iPhone 5, iOS 7.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 30, 2014, 07:53:39 pm
landomata, would love to beta test if it's still open -- iPhone 5, iOS 7.
Please PM me your UDID so we can add u to next build.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on August 30, 2014, 07:59:04 pm
god can'Twait to test the app. I will wait for the real launch on android!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on August 31, 2014, 02:16:00 am
"(Kami lebih suka Nxxtycoin, yang juga 'asset' SAE.)

Kalau sini: https://trade.secureae.com/#4551058913252105307 bisa lihat harga@ semua 'NXT assets' nya situ"

Was wandering about in Bitcointalk's Indonesian section yesterday. Found some Indonesians asking about 'ournem.' So, I chucked in a reference to Nxttycoin. Will follow it up.

And, over at @#$%^ Coin, I found a 'News and Press/Who Is on Our Team' section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=525926.0

I think it's a great idea. It can be cut and pasted into articles about Nxttycoin, showing both what has been achieved, and the lickety-split pace at which it's happening.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: takayama on August 31, 2014, 04:52:55 pm
landomata what do you think about gems mobile app project?
I am wondering if I should buy Nxttycoin today or wait for gems public crowd sell?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on August 31, 2014, 09:16:14 pm
Nxtty cryptomessenger is built for the users & is owned by the users.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: trollstocker on September 01, 2014, 03:11:16 am
Nxtty cryptomessenger is built for the users & is owned by the users.

owned by the users  :o
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 02, 2014, 11:27:51 am
Guys our ad was shared 4000 times on Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/645168825569486/photos/a.650530295033339.1073741828.645168825569486/702658846487150/?type=1&theater

 :o  didn't expect that.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jungian on September 02, 2014, 11:50:40 am
Guys our ad was shared 4000 times on Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/645168825569486/photos/a.650530295033339.1073741828.645168825569486/702658846487150/?type=1&theater

 :o  didn't expect that.

That's pretty insane. Did you buy for any of the likes?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 02, 2014, 12:17:26 pm

That's pretty insane. Did you buy for any of the likes?

Its not about the likes....you can't buy shares...

And no we did not buy any likes....its useless cuz it would mess up our analytics.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: devphp on September 02, 2014, 03:59:30 pm
How's the progress? Did you submit the app for review yet?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 03, 2014, 02:36:13 am
I am nearly finished with Wakasaki's list of android-ista's sites.

And an anecdote: one of the IndiaMikeZulu guys has never owned a mobile phone or been connected to the Net. (She owns a portfolio of coins, and they reside in our vault.) Well, yesterday I was explaining Nxttycoin -- wham! She understood. Thinks it a great idea.

Mark
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 03, 2014, 05:03:33 am
I am nearly finished with Wakasaki's list of android-ista's sites.

And an anecdote: one of the IndiaMikeZulu guys has never owned a mobile phone or been connected to the Net. (She owns a portfolio of coins, and they reside in our vault.) Well, yesterday I was explaining Nxttycoin -- wham! She understood. Thinks it a great idea.

Mark

Great news.  keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 03, 2014, 05:05:06 am
How's the progress? Did you submit the app for review yet?

Trying to finalize the last bit of crypto integration, we are in the home stretch now.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 03, 2014, 05:43:08 am
ANNOUNCEMENT:

nxttycoin (NXTTY) asset is added to Bter.com 's BTC market at

https://bter.com/trade/NXTTY_BTC

Deposit at

https://bter.com/myaccount/deposit/NXTTY
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 03, 2014, 06:06:23 am
And we just hit Twenty on CMC!!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on September 03, 2014, 07:05:48 am
how will 5% bonus work if the nxtty are at bter, do bter get the reward? Do bter plan to redistribute?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 03, 2014, 10:09:02 am
how will 5% bonus work if the nxtty are at bter, do bter get the reward? Do bter plan to redistribute?

Coins transiting thru the exchange don't really count...actually just let them hit your account before the next transfer date and you should be fine.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 03, 2014, 10:17:37 am
I had to make a faithful decision in early December 2013 Mastercoin or NXT.....well i'm glad I chose correctly  :).


NXTTY has surpassed Mastercoins marketcap, unbelievable.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: kodtycoon on September 03, 2014, 11:03:20 am
I had to make a faithful decision in early December 2013 Mastercoin or NXT.....well i'm glad I chose correctly  :).


NXTTY has surpassed Mastercoins marketcap, unbelievable.

that is one hell of an achievement :D
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on September 03, 2014, 11:11:32 am
how will 5% bonus work if the nxtty are at bter, do bter get the reward? Do bter plan to redistribute?

Coins transiting thru the exchange don't really count...actually just let them hit your account before the next transfer date and you should be fine.

ho god, won't this may create a mess on exchange at the end of every months?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 03, 2014, 12:45:27 pm
how will 5% bonus work if the nxtty are at bter, do bter get the reward? Do bter plan to redistribute?

Coins transiting thru the exchange don't really count...actually just let them hit your account before the next transfer date and you should be fine.

ho god, won't this may create a mess on exchange at the end of every months?

It's fair. If you don't hold your coins, you don't get the dividend. If you want the extra, keep them in your account.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: trollstocker on September 03, 2014, 02:33:43 pm
Look who's coming

https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=nxtty&src=typd
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on September 03, 2014, 03:05:11 pm
how will 5% bonus work if the nxtty are at bter, do bter get the reward? Do bter plan to redistribute?

Coins transiting thru the exchange don't really count...actually just let them hit your account before the next transfer date and you should be fine.

ho god, won't this may create a mess on exchange at the end of every months?

It's fair. If you don't hold your coins, you don't get the dividend. If you want the extra, keep them in your account.

I'm not saying it is not fair, i'm just wondering the consequence of this on the market. If I would be a trader, on bter for example, I would try to get that 5% supplemental  at the end of each month. That would cause some down pressure at the end of each month.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 03, 2014, 03:31:52 pm


how will 5% bonus work if the nxtty are at bter, do bter get the reward? Do bter plan to redistribute?

Coins transiting thru the exchange don't really count...actually just let them hit your account before the next transfer date and you should be fine.

ho god, won't this may create a mess on exchange at the end of every months?

It's fair. If you don't hold your coins, you don't get the dividend. If you want the extra, keep them in your account.

I'm not saying it is not fair, i'm just wondering the consequence of this on the market. If I would be a trader, on bter for example, I would try to get that 5% supplemental  at the end of each month. That would cause some down pressure at the end of each month.

Understood,  but nxtty is a NXT AE blue chip, not a pump coin.
There's no reason for downward pressure at dividend time,  and in fact there maybe upward pressure.

Most coins on Bter are sitting there doing nothing. Coins in the exchange wallet apply no pressure to the price.

Indeed there may be less support ready to rush in come the 30th but nxtty is based on real world fundamentals, not board chatter or BTC ties.

And wouldn't you think that NXTTY was a better buy at the end of the month with a 5% bonus about to drop?

In fact the opposite might arise where to price drops and support is missing on the first of the month when people send nxtty to Bter to liquidate their bonuses..

Some nxtty whales will easily get 100k dividends monthly. At 0.2Nxt ,that 100k dividend is roi for the whole 2 million bought at IPO. Plus left with 11 more months of dividends to dump.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 03, 2014, 03:58:35 pm
If I recognised a regular five-percent dip in price, I'd be lying in wait for it.

M
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: cobaltskky on September 03, 2014, 04:06:56 pm
I, for one, am hodling all my Nxtty.  I have some friends who want in on it too - small amounts, but they will hodl for the big pay off too. :)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on September 03, 2014, 04:20:56 pm


how will 5% bonus work if the nxtty are at bter, do bter get the reward? Do bter plan to redistribute?

Coins transiting thru the exchange don't really count...actually just let them hit your account before the next transfer date and you should be fine.

ho god, won't this may create a mess on exchange at the end of every months?

It's fair. If you don't hold your coins, you don't get the dividend. If you want the extra, keep them in your account.

I'm not saying it is not fair, i'm just wondering the consequence of this on the market. If I would be a trader, on bter for example, I would try to get that 5% supplemental  at the end of each month. That would cause some down pressure at the end of each month.

Understood,  but nxtty is a NXT AE blue chip, not a pump coin.
There's no reason for downward pressure at dividend time,  and in fact there maybe upward pressure.

Most coins on Bter are sitting there doing nothing. Coins in the exchange wallet apply no pressure to the price.

Indeed there may be less support ready to rush in come the 30th but nxtty is based on real world fundamentals, not board chatter or BTC ties.

And wouldn't you think that NXTTY was a better buy at the end of the month with a 5% bonus about to drop?

In fact the opposite might arise where to price drops and support is missing on the first of the month when people send nxtty to Bter to liquidate their bonuses..

Some nxtty whales will easily get 100k dividends monthly. At 0.2Nxt ,that 100k dividend is roi for the whole 2 million bought at IPO. Plus left with 11 more months of dividends to dump.

ok I agree.  ;)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Wakasaki808 on September 03, 2014, 05:50:48 pm
At 18th on CMC now  :o

(http://i.imgur.com/qVTcntr.png)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 03, 2014, 06:16:14 pm
Wow! Nxtty rise!

Choo choo!

(http://www.funniestmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Funniest_Memes_choo-choo_12967.jpeg)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Kitchentable on September 03, 2014, 06:23:10 pm
I plan on holding Nxtty for a long time but I do have one question. Right after receiving my monthly dividend I decided to move the asset to a wallet with a more secure password phrase. Will that action cause any issues with the dividend payments since it is possible to select who receives payouts?

Btw, Nxtty is fast approaching BTCD on the CMC. As someone that owns both I am quite proud.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 03, 2014, 07:02:32 pm
I plan on holding Nxtty for a long time but I do have one question. Right after receiving my monthly dividend I decided to move the asset to a wallet with a more secure password phrase. Will that action cause any issues with the dividend payments since it is possible to select who receives payouts?

Btw, Nxtty is fast approaching BTCD on the CMC. As someone that owns both I am quite proud.

You would still receive your bonus...we don't look at when it moved or arrived at your account just if its there when its time to calculate. 

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: DrearyUrbanite on September 03, 2014, 08:31:44 pm
Number 13 now and still climbing.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 03, 2014, 08:34:08 pm
I am really looking forward to that iphone app.

Technology behind this is just plain awesome.
Cheers and all the best for NXTTY!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 04, 2014, 02:06:12 am
Me plodding along on the android sites.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: swartzfeger on September 04, 2014, 04:07:21 am

I had to make a faithful decision in early December 2013 Mastercoin or NXT.....well i'm glad I chose correctly  :).


NXTTY has surpassed Mastercoins marketcap, unbelievable.

Landomata, I had a similar choice last December... do I buy NXT, or Quark? The guy I was supposed to buy Quark from pulled out from the deal at the last minute, so I went with Nxt instead. The best 'mistake' that's ever happened to me!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 04, 2014, 04:08:20 am
GUYS working on something which will should drive demand for NXTTY in a realistic & sustainable manner.


Long live the NXTTYconomy! 

Nxt is like a shopping Mall operator.....Nxtty is single store in the mall.  The mall operator will be happy if the stores do well.




 
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: LastBattle on September 04, 2014, 05:00:05 am
Hi guys, do you have any documentation of NXTTY implementation?
I'd like to create an app on Windows Phone and Windows 8.

Thanks
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 04, 2014, 05:11:27 am
Hi guys, do you have any documentation of NXTTY implementation?
I'd like to create an app on Windows Phone and Windows 8.

Thanks

I will PM you.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Abraxas 147 on September 04, 2014, 06:16:05 am
Quote
Quote from: LastBattle on Today at 05:00:05 am

    Hi guys, do you have any documentation of NXTTY implementation?
    I'd like to create an app on Windows Phone and Windows 8.

    Thanks


I will PM you.
As an operator of two windows phones I would appreciate this  8)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: LastBattle on September 04, 2014, 06:21:53 am
Quote
Quote from: LastBattle on Today at 05:00:05 am

    Hi guys, do you have any documentation of NXTTY implementation?
    I'd like to create an app on Windows Phone and Windows 8.

    Thanks


I will PM you.
As an operator of two windows phones I would appreciate this  8)

Windows Phone 8/8.1?  :P hehe

This is an app I've build for the platform so far, hope you love it!
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/bitbot-live-bitcoin-tracker/387f8f84-c5eb-436a-839a-bc1f696c7d02
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Abraxas 147 on September 04, 2014, 07:47:16 am
Quote
Windows Phone 8/8.1?  :P hehe

This is an app I've build for the platform so far, hope you love it!
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/bitbot-live-bitcoin-tracker/387f8f84-c5eb-436a-839a-bc1f696c7d02

Just updated one to 8.1 so both are running 8.1 now. Will have a look to your app  8)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: nxtperceval on September 04, 2014, 08:19:34 am
what kind of encryption use nxxty until the message left from the phone?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 04, 2014, 08:21:51 am
what kind of encryption use nxxty until the message left from the phone?
Someone must know your Nxtty login details for them to see your messages.

If you have key logger then they can see messages too....we are trying for anti key logger detection but I don't think its available on mobile yet.

 
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: nxtperceval on September 04, 2014, 08:25:33 am
dont understand, you say messages are enctypted before left the phone, my question is what kind of encryption use?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 04, 2014, 08:28:01 am
dont understand, you say messages are enctypted before left the phone, my question is what kind of encryption use?

AES
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: viennavtc on September 04, 2014, 02:49:19 pm
lando... please explain again what is the benefit of holding nxtty coins?  ok, yes for dividends but again, what does more coins get someone?  at some point down the road if nxtty was bought... how the heck would that work with existing coin holders?  any potential suitor wouldn't be able to track down all the coins... sorry to be a naysayer but this all sounds very fishy.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 04, 2014, 03:32:11 pm
Why would it be hard to track down shareholders? This is the Blockchain. If an entity wants to buy a publicly traded company they need to make a shareholder offer. They would post a price and shareholders would take the offer if they wanted to.
This would all be done on the Asset Exchange. This is different from what has been done before but in no way can't be done.
In fact I'd say that companies may be attracted to this fact,  with a dedicated and intelligent user base as shareholders.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: viennavtc on September 04, 2014, 03:44:03 pm
what if only 60%/80% of coin holders were even paying attention and therefore didn't say yes to any offer?  in no scenario would all holders say yes.  there is not a 'board of directors' that can accept the offer on behalf of all holders.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 04, 2014, 04:01:48 pm
At no point does everyone in a publicly traded company have to agree.
Hostile takeovers are possible.
Since assets are publicly listed any company could already be buying up millions of shares.

We have no disclosure rules so no need to state once you have a certain amount,  but shareholder reports are easy enough to see. Quantity not identity.

Once the buyer makes their move the price would skyrocket as they made their offer and the world would be a buzz.

If the offered even $1 share for one billion purchase, nxttycoin would jump to #2
Now look at prices for developed companies like this. 10B 15B. That would strip btc of top rank.

Who's not going to notice that?

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 04, 2014, 04:43:44 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/cHja2pb.jpg)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 04, 2014, 05:27:06 pm
At no point does everyone in a publicly traded company have to agree.
Hostile takeovers are possible.
Since assets are publicly listed any company could already be buying up millions of shares.

We have no disclosure rules so no need to state once you have a certain amount,  but shareholder reports are easy enough to see. Quantity not identity.

Once the buyer makes their move the price would skyrocket as they made their offer and the world would be a buzz.

If the offered even $1 share for one billion purchase, nxttycoin would jump to #2
Now look at prices for developed companies like this. 10B 15B. That would strip btc of top rank.

Who's not going to notice that?

Snapchat current valuation $10B
Whatsapp $16B

If someone valued NXTTY even close to these prices, they would clearly see that share price needs to be in the $10 range. If the price even hit 10cents we would be #3 at $100M, $0.16 and we're passed LTC.
So by this time, NXTTY would have gained a lot of users and picked up a lot of notice. Any big company comes along and says, "these other apps sold for X, and this one is pennies.." You could easily right now buy a serious chunk of NXTTY for $1M USD.
We're the VC's here. We're seeing the opportunity and taking the chance. Some people will take those $0.20 bids for sure. Others will wait for $1, but that still only puts the market cap at 1B.
For a platform agnostic, free, secure crypto messenger. ?!

IF, and its a big IF, this works and does what it says, and takes off, and is desired by big tech firms, it SHOULD be worth $20B easy. BUT they wont have to pay that much to acquire it!! Because average down those numbers, to the dimes, and dollars you pay for stocks on the way up..

FORGET Google and the others, what if I was rich and wanted to buy this. I'd start gobbling up the .12NXT bids on the AE and not stop. Just look now on the AE. theres 5Million there for sale at up to .2NXT each. Thats less than $30K USD for .5% of a company like this?  That's putting a $6M cap on it.

If anybody here wants to make money, this is a really good horse to bet on.



Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: viennavtc on September 04, 2014, 05:39:10 pm
ok, yeah but, lotsa legal hurdles to navigate - buying a 'community owned' platform developed by others (nxtty whales - who may be cashing out soon during the initial hype peak).
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: wesley on September 04, 2014, 05:40:48 pm
What NXT functionality does nxtty use?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: viennavtc on September 04, 2014, 06:18:47 pm
wesley, go back to beginning of this thread...look at landomata's responses... see if you can decipher his explanations for the rest of us.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: sparta_cuss on September 04, 2014, 07:11:37 pm
If a big investor wanted to buy Nxtty, the "company," then why would they buy the Nxtty assets? I own some assets, and I have no control over any coding or deployment issues. I earn no income from users. So what do I actually own? How do I actually benefit from a growing user base?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: viennavtc on September 04, 2014, 07:29:23 pm
exactly.  and landomata spends ALOT of time on (multiple nxt forum) message boards promoting the coins (lotsa free time for someone who is about to launch a magical app)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: m30188 on September 04, 2014, 07:30:47 pm
Does nxtty messenger actually exist?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: viennavtc on September 04, 2014, 07:42:44 pm
i think it's been imminent for a while now.  thought i came across one thread that goes back to April.  i could be way off base/wrong but something smells fishy to me. 
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 04, 2014, 07:43:58 pm
Is it FUD time? Because that happens all the time when there is a price rise.

Ofcourse the app exist. I'm testing it right now.

I made some design improvements and he fixed almost all of it.

The plan is to release this version. And do a major update after it is launched to implement the last design updates.

+ There is a new idea that he works on. I think he will announce it when it works.

Designed that part of the app as well.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: m30188 on September 04, 2014, 07:47:32 pm
Is it FUD time?
On this forum it should always be FUD time.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: nxtperceval on September 04, 2014, 07:52:37 pm
If a big investor wanted to buy Nxtty, the "company," then why would they buy the Nxtty assets? I own some assets, and I have no control over any coding or deployment issues. I earn no income from users. So what do I actually own? How do I actually benefit from a growing user base?

THIS
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: sparta_cuss on September 04, 2014, 07:53:59 pm
I don't have any doubts about the product. I've seen enough posts by long-time members who are testing it and it looks like a great piece of work. My questions are about the relationships among the application, NMAC, and Nxttycoin. I don't know what Nxttycoin entitles an asset holder to do, besides get dividends of more of the same. I have read all the relevant threads, and I still don't see how Nxttycoin has any tie-in to NMAC or the product.

Jef or Fatih87SK, or anyone else, can you help us understand?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: viennavtc on September 04, 2014, 08:09:05 pm
more THIS
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 04, 2014, 08:21:45 pm
I don't have any doubts about the product. I've seen enough posts by long-time members who are testing it and it looks like a great piece of work. My questions are about the relationships among the application, NMAC, and Nxttycoin. I don't know what Nxttycoin entitles an asset holder to do, besides get dividends of more of the same. I have read all the relevant threads, and I still don't see how Nxttycoin has any tie-in to NMAC or the product.

Jef or Fatih87SK, or anyone else, can you help us understand?
Read first post;

https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=5.0
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: sparta_cuss on September 04, 2014, 08:37:13 pm
I don't have any doubts about the product. I've seen enough posts by long-time members who are testing it and it looks like a great piece of work. My questions are about the relationships among the application, NMAC, and Nxttycoin. I don't know what Nxttycoin entitles an asset holder to do, besides get dividends of more of the same. I have read all the relevant threads, and I still don't see how Nxttycoin has any tie-in to NMAC or the product.

Jef or Fatih87SK, or anyone else, can you help us understand?
Read first post;

https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=5.0

Read that. Still have questions. Let's start with a scenario: One year from now there are 1 million users of this application. What effect will this have on the value of my Nxttycoin assets, and how, exactly?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 04, 2014, 08:48:45 pm
I don't have any doubts about the product. I've seen enough posts by long-time members who are testing it and it looks like a great piece of work. My questions are about the relationships among the application, NMAC, and Nxttycoin. I don't know what Nxttycoin entitles an asset holder to do, besides get dividends of more of the same. I have read all the relevant threads, and I still don't see how Nxttycoin has any tie-in to NMAC or the product.

Jef or Fatih87SK, or anyone else, can you help us understand?
Read first post;

https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=5.0

Read that. Still have questions. Let's start with a scenario: One year from now there are 1 million users of this application. What effect will this have on the value of my Nxttycoin assets, and how, exactly?
Landomata is the one who can answer this at best.

My opinion;
You are basically asking to reveal every plans of NMAC so you know what the value will be.

I understand that everyone wants to know everything and the future plans.

But... some things should be stay secret to be ahead of the competition.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: sparta_cuss on September 04, 2014, 08:54:16 pm
Landomata is the one who can answer this at best.

My opinion;
You are basically asking to reveal every plans of NMAC so you know what the value will be.

I understand that everyone wants to know everything and the future plans.

But... some things should be stay secret to be ahead of the competition.

So you have no actual knowledge of how Nxttycoin works or what its value is, and you are trusting Landomata? That's fine. I trust him, too, up to a point. But don't imply that there is something wrong with my (or others') reading and research abilities, or that we are overly/unfairly suspicious, if we have questions about how this works. You don't understand it, either, and that's because no one has explained it. It is, as you say, a secret. Everyone can put their own price on this secrecy/trust.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: JamesList on September 04, 2014, 08:54:57 pm
I would love to see nxtty in the SuperNET. Great project :)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: valarmg on September 04, 2014, 09:01:53 pm

So you have no actual knowledge of how Nxttycoin works or what its value is, and you are trusting Landomata? That's fine. I trust him, too, up to a point. But don't imply that there is something wrong with my (or others') reading and research abilities, or that we are overly/unfairly suspicious, if we have questions about how this works. You don't understand it, either, and that's because no one has explained it. It is, as you say, a secret. Everyone can put their own price on this secrecy/trust.

Landomata has said that NMAC=Nxttycoin=100% ownership of this app. He has said that if Nxttycoin was sold, then all shareholders would share equally in the amount of money it sold for. Seems that buying Nxttycoin is exactly like buying facebook shares except the crypto-version. Obviously more trust is involved because there's no regulation etc., but I'm not sure exactly what you are asking.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 04, 2014, 09:07:02 pm
I believe that Nxtty will be the crypto bridge to users who didn't even heard of Bitcoin.

So this app is very important to all of cryptocurrency out there. This is a mission.

Imagine those 1 million users you implied can receive Nxttycoin. Send them as well to their contacts with just one press of a button.

Money transfer to a friend could not be any easier than this.

What if NMAC adds a payment option in the app. So now the users can sudenly pay with it.

If your out of Nxttycoin. Just ask your friend. Or earn it on Facebook by spreading the word or by playing a game.

The possibilities are endless.

The most important thing is; Timing. Which Landomata is doing really smooth.

Step by step. Nxtty will get bigger.

All of these possibilities described above are my believes how Nxtty will be succesful. And how I understand what Nxtty is.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: frohlocke on September 04, 2014, 09:07:37 pm

So you have no actual knowledge of how Nxttycoin works or what its value is, and you are trusting Landomata? That's fine. I trust him, too, up to a point. But don't imply that there is something wrong with my (or others') reading and research abilities, or that we are overly/unfairly suspicious, if we have questions about how this works. You don't understand it, either, and that's because no one has explained it. It is, as you say, a secret. Everyone can put their own price on this secrecy/trust.

Landomata has said that NMAC=Nxttycoin=100% ownership of this app. He has said that if Nxttycoin was sold, then all shareholders would share equally in the amount of money it sold for. Seems that buying Nxttycoin is exactly like buying facebook shares except the crypto-version. Obviously more trust is involved because there's no regulation etc., but I'm not sure exactly what you are asking.


How will this be assured? Is there any escrow for the code in place?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Pilot on September 04, 2014, 09:14:01 pm
Landomata is the one who can answer this at best.

My opinion;
You are basically asking to reveal every plans of NMAC so you know what the value will be.

I understand that everyone wants to know everything and the future plans.

But... some things should be stay secret to be ahead of the competition.

I will be issuing an asset soon for you guys to buy. It for sure will make LOT's of money. It is a secret what it will do, or how it will make revenue... but trust me, it's gonna be huge!     -- Mr Madoff.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 04, 2014, 09:17:54 pm
Landomata is the one who can answer this at best.

My opinion;
You are basically asking to reveal every plans of NMAC so you know what the value will be.

I understand that everyone wants to know everything and the future plans.

But... some things should be stay secret to be ahead of the competition.

I will be issuing an asset soon for you guys to buy. It for sure will make LOT's of money. It is a secret what it will do, or how it will make revenue... but trust me, it's gonna be huge!     -- Mr Madoff.
If you don't like risks. Why are you even here?

Take a small amount of Nxtty and enjoy the ride man. Enjoy your life yo.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: valarmg on September 04, 2014, 09:19:00 pm

So you have no actual knowledge of how Nxttycoin works or what its value is, and you are trusting Landomata? That's fine. I trust him, too, up to a point. But don't imply that there is something wrong with my (or others') reading and research abilities, or that we are overly/unfairly suspicious, if we have questions about how this works. You don't understand it, either, and that's because no one has explained it. It is, as you say, a secret. Everyone can put their own price on this secrecy/trust.

Landomata has said that NMAC=Nxttycoin=100% ownership of this app. He has said that if Nxttycoin was sold, then all shareholders would share equally in the amount of money it sold for. Seems that buying Nxttycoin is exactly like buying facebook shares except the crypto-version. Obviously more trust is involved because there's no regulation etc., but I'm not sure exactly what you are asking.


How will this be assured? Is there any escrow for the code in place?

How is the present situation different from any other asset on the Nxt Asset Exchange?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 04, 2014, 09:24:10 pm
It's very simple.

Why do people own all these Alt's?....what do they bring?  yet they still have value.

Enough of that.....lets be clear for examples sake.

Someone makes an offer of X amount per. coin .....we launch a "poll" all holders can vote.  51% votes to sell....they also vote that they want BTC from the buyer.  Buyer then request 2 things 1) they to send a NXT Arbitrary message containing their BTC address from their Nxt account holding the Nxttycoin, 2) Sign a BTC message stating their NXT account number holding the Nxttycoin.

Nxttycoin are transited to ESCROW agent agreed by BUYER & HOLDERS.  All holders who voted to sell can send their coins to the escrow....all those who voted against can sit and watch the show.  Buyer then goes thru the blockchain and sees CLEARLY which accounts sent how many Nxttycoins to escrow and subsequently transmits the equivalent BTC to each other according to his records.

Transaction finishes and trading continues....I might be off a bit but you get the idea.

....by this time Account control, etc will be implemented.

this is just one scenario....I don't want to go into more details....there are so many ways to skin a cat.

If you would like to test our product you can download our Android beta from our Facebook page.  :)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: chanc3r on September 04, 2014, 09:25:44 pm

So you have no actual knowledge of how Nxttycoin works or what its value is, and you are trusting Landomata? That's fine. I trust him, too, up to a point. But don't imply that there is something wrong with my (or others') reading and research abilities, or that we are overly/unfairly suspicious, if we have questions about how this works. You don't understand it, either, and that's because no one has explained it. It is, as you say, a secret. Everyone can put their own price on this secrecy/trust.

Landomata has said that NMAC=Nxttycoin=100% ownership of this app. He has said that if Nxttycoin was sold, then all shareholders would share equally in the amount of money it sold for. Seems that buying Nxttycoin is exactly like buying facebook shares except the crypto-version. Obviously more trust is involved because there's no regulation etc., but I'm not sure exactly what you are asking.


How will this be assured? Is there any escrow for the code in place?

NMAC issued an IPO document which a lot of original NXTTY Holders bought into...
Ladomata issued NXTTY in response to this IPO rather than NMAC shares..
The understanding is the NMAC entity value is represented by NXTTY
IF NMAC is ever sold then the promise is that the proceeds will be distributed to all NXTTY holders proportionately
IF NMAC makes a profit then those profits will be distributed to all NXTTY holders proportionately.

Is this legally binding/documented etc - this is the wrong place for that...
Could lando and the other people working in NXTTY run off with $$$B if and when that point comes ... yes...

At the moment it is vanishingly small likelihood that this will happen...

And the sarcasm and FUD manifesting suddenly around NMAC/NXTTY is undeserved...

Is this because you are afraid for your long term holding of NXTTY - sell it - its made lots if you got in at IPO

If its because its now showing some action and you are a potential investor - then ask with some respect and you can shove your 'made off' sarcasm where the sun doesn't shine...

(readers please note the author hodls NXTTY)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: trollstocker on September 04, 2014, 09:41:13 pm
I believe that Nxtty will be the crypto bridge to users who didn't even heard of Bitcoin.

So this app is very important to all of cryptocurrency out there. This is a mission.

Imagine those 1 million users you implied can receive Nxttycoin. Send them as well to their contacts with just one press of a button.

Money transfer to a friend could not be any easier than this.

What if NMAC adds a payment option in the app. So now the users can sudenly pay with it.

If your out of Nxttycoin. Just ask your friend. Or earn it on Facebook by spreading the word or by playing a game.

The possibilities are endless.

The most important thing is; Timing. Which Landomata is doing really smooth.

Step by step. Nxtty will get bigger.

All of these possibilities described above are my believes how Nxtty will be succesful. And how I understand what Nxtty is.

Very Very Well Put!.This App COULD put Nxt and Cryptos to the masses!

Hence: crypto messaging for the masses ;D
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: trollstocker on September 04, 2014, 09:46:42 pm

So you have no actual knowledge of how Nxttycoin works or what its value is, and you are trusting Landomata? That's fine. I trust him, too, up to a point. But don't imply that there is something wrong with my (or others') reading and research abilities, or that we are overly/unfairly suspicious, if we have questions about how this works. You don't understand it, either, and that's because no one has explained it. It is, as you say, a secret. Everyone can put their own price on this secrecy/trust.

Landomata has said that NMAC=Nxttycoin=100% ownership of this app. He has said that if Nxttycoin was sold, then all shareholders would share equally in the amount of money it sold for. Seems that buying Nxttycoin is exactly like buying facebook shares except the crypto-version. Obviously more trust is involved because there's no regulation etc., but I'm not sure exactly what you are asking.


How will this be assured? Is there any escrow for the code in place?

How is the present situation different from any other asset on the Nxt Asset Exchange?

None except Nxttys price and launch are working in tandem and IMO some wish they would of bought sooner
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: frohlocke on September 04, 2014, 09:46:53 pm
I believe that Nxtty will be the crypto bridge to users who didn't even heard of Bitcoin.

So this app is very important to all of cryptocurrency out there. This is a mission.

Imagine those 1 million users you implied can receive Nxttycoin. Send them as well to their contacts with just one press of a button.

Money transfer to a friend could not be any easier than this.

What if NMAC adds a payment option in the app. So now the users can sudenly pay with it.

If your out of Nxttycoin. Just ask your friend. Or earn it on Facebook by spreading the word or by playing a game.

The possibilities are endless.

The most important thing is; Timing. Which Landomata is doing really smooth.

Step by step. Nxtty will get bigger.

All of these possibilities described above are my believes how Nxtty will be succesful. And how I understand what Nxtty is.
You are right I have to do my own dd before asking questions.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: m30188 on September 04, 2014, 09:55:08 pm
And the sarcasm and FUD manifesting suddenly around NMAC/NXTTY is undeserved [...] you can shove your 'made off' sarcasm where the sun doesn't shine...
I don't think he was being sarcastic. We all need a dose of healthy skepticism, especially when we really REALLY REALLY want to believe someone on this forum is going to make us filthy rich. The reason so many scammers come to this forum is we're all blinded by greed.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: chanc3r on September 04, 2014, 10:00:36 pm
And the sarcasm and FUD manifesting suddenly around NMAC/NXTTY is undeserved [...] you can shove your 'made off' sarcasm where the sun doesn't shine...
I don't think he was being sarcastic. We all need a dose of healthy skepticism, especially when we really REALLY REALLY want to believe someone on this forum is going to make us filthy rich. The reason so many scammers come to this forum is we're all blinded by greed.

I don't know if this is going to make anyone filthy rich,,, what I do know is creating something new from scratch is really hard and about 95%+ of these things fail... That hard work should be respected and some simple reading of this forum would show all of the stuff that has been done and posted by NMAC/NXTTY over the months.

I agree there are many scammers and there are doubters I have a lot of time for people asking questions seeking to understand... However I am sorry but I have a short fuse for people who make comments like that as its a cheap shot to create a negative perception about other peoples hard work.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 04, 2014, 11:18:40 pm
I'm happy to discuss my thoughts, experiences, and beliefs. I have dreams for my family, I have a daughter and a new baby on the way. I have a full time job 50+ hours a week and I also spend a lot of time with all you NXT people.

I have been in NXT since december, bought on DGEX with bitcoins I paid retail for. I have increased my holdings along the way through following, investing, and listening to a lot of people that I thought were smart and had useful ideas. I have spoken to these people on the phone for hours, skype for 100's of hours, and how many forum posts?

I have been stung a little, but by people that I didn't trust, and knew was a gamble. A whopping 11K NXT lost and lessons learned. Compare that with 50x that earned from believing in people. I may be a bit of a risk taker, but I am playing with money I can afford to lose. I'd like to make it rich, so I'm optimistic. I'd like NXT to buy me a house. I ask questions, I make judgements, and I act.

I'd like to think that my decisions and insight could be helpful to others, I give my views with no expectations of remuneration, or thanks. I feel that if something is worth my investment, I would like others to know why, and give my reasons. I appreciate informed counter arguments, they help me learn and define my position.

I am allergic to FUD, especially from Sr Members and sock puppets. I would however love to hear thoughts and concerns.

As to NXTTY, I know there is some thin proof of use, and I have taken it as a trade secret. I am assuming that Landomata has a plan. I have been playing with beta for weeks and talking with Lando on it daily. I read the IPO and I spent 20K on 2M NXT. I guess you could call that a good investment. I'm holding because I see more value in NXTTY than just this 11.75X increase.

Bottom line is this. If you don't trust it, don't buy it. If you know something or have some insight please post it, I want to hear. If you have questions, ask.

Thanks and to the moon!


Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 05, 2014, 01:31:04 am
Dum de dum. IndiaMikeZulu: careful choices; community-building; long-term perspective.

(Can't talk now! Gotta go promote Nxxtycoin!)

Mark
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: nxtperceval on September 05, 2014, 07:33:12 am
Having a "secret plan" is not good for business.

Usually investors not give their money because a "secret plan".
I'm sure that nxtty is a great and will be sucssessfull,but invest in nxtty AE is a diferent thing.

I't need to be extremly clear about shares,earns,etc etc.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: ThomasVeil on September 05, 2014, 09:39:04 am
I think the legal uncertainties in our field make it very hard to be "extremely clear about shares". For example there is a risk when calling something shares.

I bought a little bit into this (late to the party as always :))) - and how I see it: Investing in Nxtty is like acting like an VC investment fund. You're entering a very high risk environment. Even more risky, since you can not do the same background checks and involvement a real VC fund would. Scams are always a possibility with all investments. And the even bigger risk (correct me if I'm wrong): Nxtty doesn't have a middle ground. It either becomes the new Whatsapp, or it will vanish. Nobody uses a messenger that nobody else uses.
For VC funds, 1 in a 1000 investments work out if they're lucky. Those work out to a degree that makes up for all the 999 losses, and then some. It's a gamble - and we as normal users can't invest in 5000 companies to smooth out the risk.

So yeah, adjust the odds depending on how much you like the app so far - and then it's OK to buy a lottery ticket and enjoy the ride.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 05, 2014, 09:10:46 pm
Having a "secret plan" is not good for business.


When did you hear about Ipad?

edit: Please let me continue, Its all about being first. Patents, licensing..etc.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: armin22 on September 05, 2014, 10:06:39 pm
I read somewhere that the messages aren't recorded in the blockchain but rather on an internal server runned by Nxtty owners. Or am I wrong?
.

We can't decrypt the messages being routed thru the server, they are useless to us.

Imagine the slew of nude pics that will be sent without any notice
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jl777 on September 05, 2014, 11:37:24 pm
Having a "secret plan" is not good for business.


When did you hear about Ipad?

edit: Please let me continue, Its all about being first. Patents, licensing..etc.
I agree about the importance of first.
I forgot to apply for the patents and licensing. Should I stop everything for those?
Patents are not very useful unless you are already big company, the legal processes they are too expensive
licensing, have you been to russia? many countries are laughing at the licensing this is no protection

The protection is the network effect and providing a useful solution
everything else I am not so sure is just to make guys in fancy suits big money that they cant get otherwise
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 06, 2014, 06:02:17 am
(https://i.imgflip.com/busij.jpg) (https://imgflip.com/i/busij)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 06, 2014, 07:00:26 am
Hey Guys & Gals,

We are working on a special service  ;D which we feel is a true differentiator.

This service is even more unique than cryptomessenger itself and will give a real & tangible use for NXTTYcoin.


Which is a win/win for everyone.  :)


P.S. Please study our wallet image if you need more clues.
https://www.facebook.com/645168825569486/photos/a.650530295033339.1073741828.645168825569486/714695795283455/?type=1&theater
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on September 06, 2014, 08:07:27 am
so when nxxty is scheduled to be release?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: valarmg on September 06, 2014, 08:27:03 am
so when nxxty is scheduled to be release?

Landomata, ever think about changing the name? Everyone misspells nxtty and no one knows how to pronounce it (How should it be pronounced?). Most social media app names roll of the tongue which is very useful for viral propagation via word of mouth.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on September 06, 2014, 08:32:02 am
It was just a typo, I know how to spell Nxtty.
It should be pronnonced -Next-ty-
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 06, 2014, 08:32:50 am
so when nxxty is scheduled to be release?

Landomata, ever think about changing the name? Everyone misspells nxtty and no one knows how to pronounce it (How should it be pronounced?). Most social media app names roll of the tongue which is very useful for viral propagation via word of mouth.

Next tea  ...very easy to say once u know how to pronounce it.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Mexxer on September 06, 2014, 08:37:47 am
I think Nxtty is a pretty good and easy name. Nxty might be a bit better, though. Still sounds the same, but with easier spelling.

EDIT: Oh wait, I remember you wanted a name with 5 letters right? Yeah then Nxtty is the way to go I guess  :)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: valarmg on September 06, 2014, 08:45:33 am
It was just a typo, I know how to spell Nxtty.
It should be pronnonced -Next-ty-

I've seen it spelt like that several times in the last week. And I have had to check the spelling many times before I became very familiar with the word. (I'm not trying to call out your typo, just pointing our that the name takes a while to get used to.)

Next tea  ...very easy to say once u know how to pronounce it.

Next-tea works, but I'd never have gotten that from the spelling. Glad I have a way to pronounce it now anyway.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 06, 2014, 09:13:47 am
I think Nxtty is a pretty good and easy name. Nxty might be a bit better, though. Still sounds the same, but with easier spelling.

EDIT: Oh wait, I remember you wanted a name with 5 letters right? Yeah then Nxtty is the way to go I guess  :)

It also matches the ticker very well NXTTY.  ;D

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 06, 2014, 09:14:33 am
Working on something real cool....i'm really excited about it.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: ThomasVeil on September 06, 2014, 09:38:00 am
I always read it as "NXT-Thank-You-coin" ;D

I don't quite get the wallet idea - how it will integrate. But it could be an fantastic way to get the masses accustomed to handling cryptos.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Peter2516 on September 06, 2014, 09:59:03 am
And tipping :)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 06, 2014, 06:52:32 pm
Having a "secret plan" is not good for business.


When did you hear about Ipad?

edit: Please let me continue, Its all about being first. Patents, licensing..etc.
I agree about the importance of first.
I forgot to apply for the patents and licensing. Should I stop everything for those?
Patents are not very useful unless you are already big company, the legal processes they are too expensive
licensing, have you been to russia? many countries are laughing at the licensing this is no protection

The protection is the network effect and providing a useful solution
everything else I am not so sure is just to make guys in fancy suits big money that they cant get otherwise

"I forgot to apply for the patents and licensing. Should I stop everything for those?"
-No, but in the future we should change this so that the little people can patent again. Like a real world stuff.. new hinge-system with a cost of, lets say 100 NXT :)

"licensing, have you been to russia? many countries are laughing at the licensing this is no protection"
-Agreed. Yes, I have been there. Its still a very big market for real stuff.

Cheers!

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 07, 2014, 12:40:48 am
Well, I have established a presence on CNET, Android Authority, and XDA Developers. Have 'covered' all on Wakasaki's list.

It's clear that while some sites have no articles at all on Bitcoin, and others do have some, there are no crypto geeks hanging out on these sites.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 07, 2014, 06:17:58 am
Well, I have established a presence on CNET, Android Authority, and XDA Developers. Have 'covered' all on Wakasaki's list.

It's clear that while some sites have no articles at all on Bitcoin, and others do have some, there are no crypto geeks hanging out on these sites.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia

OK great, that's an opportunity for us to educate them.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: viennavtc on September 07, 2014, 11:43:07 am
what's the story with nxtty being 'close to operational.. in a few days time' according to landomata back on February 3, 2014? https://nextcoin.org/index.php?topic=3732.0
and I will be surprised if apple would sign off on it.  again, hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 07, 2014, 11:51:43 am
what's the story with nxtty being 'close to operational.. in a few days time' according to landomata back on February 3, 2014? https://nextcoin.org/index.php?topic=3732.0
and I will be surprised if apple would sign off on it.  again, hope I'm wrong.

That was the messenger we used for AM contest.....everyone knows how that went   :D  ;D

Plus Apple already gave approval in June....actually our 1st build failed but they approved the 2nd one after 5 days or so.

P.S....the AM contest was a Nxt wide contest to come up with any software which used the Nxt AM features then everyone voted included sock-poppets so eventually all the participants received equal prize money. 


@ CFB

Can you dream up some new contest again.




Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: viennavtc on September 07, 2014, 12:35:56 pm
so what is the latest on timing for the current release then?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 07, 2014, 12:43:33 pm
so what is the latest on timing for the current release then?

We can submit now to both appstores...I mean the iOS app has been sitting on itunes for 2 months now....that said we want to release a world class product.

Once CRYPTOmessenger is fully optimized we will list on the Stores....its 90% done at the moment.

But with crypto implementation its a bit advanced as we had to rethink our approach many times over the last few weeks.

A bit of good news Nxtty iPhone is now fully compatible with iOS 8.


iPad optimization starts tmmr (2 weeks to be finished).....Android wear also (not sure timeline)....


Now i'm only looking forward to Tuesday.....Apple launch event.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: devphp on September 07, 2014, 02:38:38 pm
Apple launch event.

What's that?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 07, 2014, 02:49:51 pm
so what is the latest on timing for the current release then?

We can submit now to both appstores...I mean the iOS app has been sitting on itunes for 2 months now....that said we want to release a world class product.


Fantastic!
We are all looking forward to it :)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: rriky92 on September 07, 2014, 03:34:52 pm
Apple launch event.

What's that?

New Apple keynote that will shows iPhone 6(Air??), iOS 8 release for everyone and maybe iWatch
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 08, 2014, 05:18:26 am
 'Nxttycoin is Nos. 15 (Go, Nxxtycoin!)'

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article47229.html

I sometimes write for this site.

Mark
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 08, 2014, 06:13:24 am
'Nxttycoin is Nos. 15 (Go, Nxxtycoin!)'

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article47229.html

I sometimes write for this site.

Mark

Can we publish the Blog article there?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 08, 2014, 06:34:22 am
'Nxttycoin is Nos. 15 (Go, Nxxtycoin!)'

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article47229.html

I sometimes write for this site.

Mark

Everytime when someone writes Nxttycoin in the wrong way I think of this video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfQumd_o0Gk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfQumd_o0Gk)

It's Nxttycoin guys. Not Nxxtycoin =)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 08, 2014, 06:45:02 am

Everytime when someone writes Nxttycoin in the wrong way I think of this video;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfQumd_o0Gk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfQumd_o0Gk)

It's Nxttycoin guys. Not Nxxtycoin!

Gotta love Pokemon  ;D
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 08, 2014, 09:16:46 am
I apologise for the typo. It's most unlike me. These guys have a strange editing policy: sometimes they publish you; sometimes they don't. I wrote this article in a single draft, and fired it off (and you guys can offer thoughts on whether this should be a significant current of crypto-to-Outside-World communication).

Mark Blair writes:

so, what's up with Bitcoin's price?
Short answer: too little data to know -- but this article will give you some food for thought.

The five months of The China Thing ended on April 10. Merchant adoption etc. progressed solidly during that time. A year ago, adoption was going business by business. Five months ago, it was going company by company. At this point, it is going nation by nation.

Shortly after the 'inflection point,' Bitcoin's price surged by over 60%. That was followed by a cooling.

The cooling was not a concern at first -- but then it continued. Here's the most-commonly-discussed idea:

it's two-fold: technological developments have pushed crypto mining onto a new, higher, plane. It's big business now -- and those businesses are not 'HODL-ing' (holding) the mined coin. They have bills to pay; they are selling it. The second reason is similar: the businesses that have begun accepting Bitcoin (and now altcoins) also have bills to pay. They are selling the cryptos they accept.

Now, the crypto-sphere is a Wild-West saloon full of shouting sociopathic sock-puppets; and plenty of them will dismiss the above as 'FUD' -- fear, uncertainly, doubt. These players are those who believe the crypto-markets are more rather than less manipulated. They think that saying anything except Big Rally a-comin' is treason. The difficulty is that the indications are that Bitcoin and Friends should be rising in price, so we need to consider why they aren't.

There is one more analysis that warrants mention:

there is a gap between people first gaining knowledge of cryptos, and their really beginning to use them. Companies and Governments have (!?) put frame-works in place, but we remain in the 'betwixt-and-between' phase.

[I have done a little development in recent weeks on android-device-lovers' sites. These guys are absolutely a prime target-group for crypto adoption, but I found surprisingly little interest or current information.]

What's IndiaMikeZulu's position?

If you are not a geek who can discuss BitsharesX's DAC's, and Litecoin's trade-volumes, and the proliferation of assets on NXT's SAE, stay away from playing the Bitcoin market. It is a fine example of a 'chaotic equation': too many unknowns.

Rather, buy some Bitcoin; get advice on how to secure it; and wait. Even geeks like my mob are stunned by the pace of adoption. It's a crown-fire runnin' before a stiff breeze. (Every single citizen of Dominica is going to be given a pinch of Bitcoin.)

And if your business can be set up to take Bitcoin, do that (though you won't take much for a good while -- which will give you time to figure out the accounting.)

Final Note: with respect, 99% of people who know what Bitcoin is don't know what altcoins are. However -- although their share of total market-cap will remain tiny until Bitcoin really gains pace again -- they are the bleeding edge:

Ripple is Nos. 3; BitsharesX is Nos. 4; Nxt is Nos. 5 (and has 5 more of its 'family coins' on the charts); Dark Coin is Nos. 8; Maidsafe is Nos. 10; Counterparty is Nos. 13; Bitshares PTS is Nos. 14; Nxttycoin is Nos. 15 (Go, Nxttycoin!).

Here's a tip: put Coinmarketcap on your Favourites. If you click on the price-data graphs, you will find 180-day and 365-day stats. Now, don't believe me. Spend a coupla hours crunching the numbers:

of the top 60 coins on CMC, only two are 'above the mark' of Bitcoin's April inflection-point. They are Mona Coin, a 'Japanese' coin; and Unobtanium. Mona Coin is younger and less stable. Unobtanium is uniquely stable.

Recommendation: buy and store Bitcoin. Join the Unobtanium community, and learn the ropes.

Mark Blair

Mark has a three-decades-long background in libertarian political theory and activism. He is part of 'IndiaMikeZulu,' an alliance of crypto-geeks who bought their first Bitcoin at $125 (and still have it). He holds Bitcoin, NXT, Nxttycoin, and Unobtanium.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 08, 2014, 09:34:04 am
I apologise for the typo. It's most unlike me. These guys have a strange editing policy: sometimes they publish you; sometimes they don't. I wrote this article in a single draft, and fired it off (and you guys can offer thoughts on whether this should be a significant current of crypto-to-Outside-World communication).

Mark Blair writes:

so, what's up with Bitcoin's price?
Short answer: too little data to know -- but this article will give you some food for thought.

The five months of The China Thing ended on April 10. Merchant adoption etc. progressed solidly during that time. A year ago, adoption was going business by business. Five months ago, it was going company by company. At this point, it is going nation by nation.

Shortly after the 'inflection point,' Bitcoin's price surged by over 60%. That was followed by a cooling.

The cooling was not a concern at first -- but then it continued. Here's the most-commonly-discussed idea:

It's two-fold: technological developments have pushed crypto mining onto a new, higher, plane. It's big business now -- and those businesses are not 'HODL-ing' (holding) the mined coin. They have bills to pay; they are selling it. The second reason is similar: the businesses that have begun accepting Bitcoin (and now altcoins) also have bills to pay. They are selling the cryptos they accept.

Now, the crypto-sphere is a Wild-West saloon full of shouting sociopathic sock-puppets; and plenty of them will dismiss the above as 'FUD' -- fear, uncertainly, doubt. These players are those who believe the crypto-markets are more rather than less manipulated. They think that saying anything except Big Rally a-comin' is treason. The difficulty is that the indications are that Bitcoin and Friends should be rising in price, so we need to consider why they aren't.

There is one more analysis that warrants mention:

There is a gap between people first gaining knowledge of cryptos, and their really beginning to use them. Companies and Governments have (!?) put frame-works in place, but we remain in the 'betwixt-and-between' phase.

[I have done a little development in recent weeks on android-device-lovers' sites. These guys are absolutely a prime target-group for crypto adoption, but I found surprisingly little interest or current information.]

What's IndiaMikeZulu's position?

If you are not a geek who can discuss BitsharesX's DAC's, and Litecoin's trade-volumes, and the proliferation of assets on NXT's SAE, stay away from playing the Bitcoin market. It is a fine example of a 'chaotic equation': too many unknowns.

Rather, buy some Bitcoin; get advice on how to secure it; and wait. Even geeks like my mob are stunned by the pace of adoption. It's a crown-fire runnin' before a stiff breeze. (Every single citizen of Dominica is going to be given a pinch of Bitcoin.)

And if your business can be set up to take Bitcoin, do that (though you won't take much for a good while -- which will give you time to figure out the accounting.)

Final Note: with respect, 99% of people who know what Bitcoin is don't know what altcoins are. However -- although their share of total market-cap will remain tiny until Bitcoin really gains pace again -- they are the bleeding edge:

Ripple is Nos. 3; BitsharesX is Nos. 4; Nxt is Nos. 5 (and has 5 more of its 'family coins' on the charts); Dark Coin is Nos. 8; Maidsafe is Nos. 10; Counterparty is Nos. 13; Bitshares PTS is Nos. 14; Nxttycoin is Nos. 15 (Go, Nxttycoin!).

Here's a tip: put Coinmarketcap on your Favourites. If you click on the price-data graphs, you will find 180-day and 365-day stats. Now, don't believe me. Spend a coupla hours crunching the numbers:

of the top 60 coins on CMC, only two are 'above the mark' of Bitcoin's April inflection-point. They are Mona Coin, a 'Japanese' coin; and Unobtanium. Mona Coin is younger and less stable. Unobtanium is uniquely stable.

Recommendation: buy and store Bitcoin. Join the Unobtanium community, and learn the ropes.

Mark Blair

Mark has a three-decades-long background in libertarian political theory and activism. He is part of 'IndiaMikeZulu,' an alliance of crypto-geeks who bought their first Bitcoin at $125 (and still have it). He holds Bitcoin, NXT, Nxttycoin, and Unobtanium.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 08, 2014, 07:24:54 pm
 ;D

I like the idea of tipping system inside the Nxtty, so basically its also mobile wallet?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 08, 2014, 07:34:02 pm
I will post images to promote the app at social media right here. Will edit this post after I made a new one.

(http://i.imgur.com/Ck5JYMWl.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/Ck5JYMW.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/Ck5JYMW.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/YlOWArhl.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/YlOWArh.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/YlOWArh.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/5EUP3Ffl.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/5EUP3Ff.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/5EUP3Ff.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZbaGWQil.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/ZbaGWQi.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/ZbaGWQi.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/z7JkGN2l.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/z7JkGN2.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/z7JkGN2.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/hKGX0nul.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/hKGX0nu.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/hKGX0nu.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/QsVyMsZl.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/xmLroSK.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/xmLroSK.jpg)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 08, 2014, 07:37:54 pm
;D

I like the idea of tipping system inside the Nxtty, so basically its also mobile wallet?

Yes
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: devphp on September 08, 2014, 07:41:27 pm
;D

I like the idea of tipping system inside the Nxtty, so basically its also mobile wallet?

Yes

Will it be launched/released this year? ;)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 08, 2014, 07:44:13 pm
;D

I like the idea of tipping system inside the Nxtty, so basically its also mobile wallet?

Yes

Will it be launched/released this year? ;)

Definitely  :).

We are keeping some things secret till after launch....NXTTYconomy.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 08, 2014, 08:08:54 pm
I will post images to promote the app at social media right here. Will edit this post after I made a new one.

(http://i.imgur.com/Ck5JYMWl.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/Ck5JYMW.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/Ck5JYMW.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/YlOWArhl.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/YlOWArh.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/YlOWArh.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZbaGWQil.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/ZbaGWQi.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/ZbaGWQi.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/5EUP3Ffl.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/5EUP3Ff.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/5EUP3Ff.jpg)

This is it for today. More will come another day.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 08, 2014, 09:00:04 pm
;D

I like the idea of tipping system inside the Nxtty, so basically its also mobile wallet?

Yes

Will it be launched/released this year? ;)

Definitely  :).

We are keeping some things secret till after launch....NXTTYconomy.

Thanks for the replies guys and thanks for beautiful pictures Fatih87SK.

So if it is also a mobile wallet, SUPER COOL!

And then one far fetched question: Is there anyway, in some point of time, to scram in the multigateway for mobile traders? Could it be possible?  :)

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: chanc3r on September 08, 2014, 09:12:39 pm
I will post images to promote the app at social media right here. Will edit this post after I made a new one.


Superb work - just had to say - can't wait...
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 08, 2014, 09:29:16 pm
I will post images to promote the app at social media right here. Will edit this post after I made a new one.

(http://i.imgur.com/Ck5JYMWl.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/Ck5JYMW.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/Ck5JYMW.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/YlOWArhl.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/YlOWArh.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/YlOWArh.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZbaGWQil.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/ZbaGWQi.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/ZbaGWQi.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/5EUP3Ffl.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/5EUP3Ff.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/5EUP3Ff.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/Hceeuqpl.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/Hceeuqp.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/Hceeuqp.jpg)

Added one more. Really last one today.

Tip a person if you lke his post!

@Landomata;
I made the Wallet and Tip boxes slightly transparent as you can see (5%)
It looks better this way.

More images of the 'Tips' section coming soon.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 09, 2014, 07:19:21 am
@ Fatih: splendid quality of images! Really professional.

@ Me: I shall continue developing a presence on Wakasaki's list of android-lovers' sites.

Mark
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 09, 2014, 07:29:34 am
@Landomata

I will make an improvement of the Open chat menu.

I see 2 minor issues.

It's not a big deal. But it will look more professional.

We'll keep in touch.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: NxtChoice on September 09, 2014, 08:13:04 am

So cool. Look forward to sharing this great app with my friends.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 09, 2014, 03:11:15 pm
Hey everyone,

We now have 2 mascots and their friends  ;D :D

https://www.facebook.com/645168825569486/photos/a.650530295033339.1073741828.645168825569486/716822455070789/?type=1&theater
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 09, 2014, 03:11:43 pm
@Landomata

I will make an improvement of the Open chat menu.

I see 2 minor issues.

It's not a big deal. But it will look more professional.

We'll keep in touch.

Ok.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 09, 2014, 03:51:33 pm
Is there a new Android beta? Very excited about progress.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 09, 2014, 05:52:14 pm
Hey everyone,

We now have 2 mascots and their friends  ;D :D

https://www.facebook.com/645168825569486/photos/a.650530295033339.1073741828.645168825569486/716822455070789/?type=1&theater

Can you pm me a (google-drive or whatever) link to the hi-resolution picture of these fellas.
Maybe I can make something nice for you.

They are super cool!

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: m30188 on September 09, 2014, 06:50:38 pm
Hey everyone,

We now have 2 mascots and their friends  ;D :D

https://www.facebook.com/645168825569486/photos/a.650530295033339.1073741828.645168825569486/716822455070789/?type=1&theater

Okay, these mascots are COOL!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 09, 2014, 09:35:45 pm

(http://i.imgur.com/z7JkGN2l.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/z7JkGN2.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/z7JkGN2.jpg)

Added one more. Check the original post for all promotional pictures.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: _mr_e on September 10, 2014, 04:04:33 am
So do we still have no idea on how this app actually even uses nxt?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Valtiel on September 10, 2014, 06:35:25 am
So do we still have no idea on how this app actually even uses nxt?
thats the same thing iw as wondering.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: mikesbmw on September 10, 2014, 06:46:50 am
I searched this thread:

So what does this app even have to do with nxt?!

Nxtty runs on NRS (Nxt Resource Software) just doesn't use Arbitrary Messages.

NRS is not just about AM.  :)

I do have a pretty good understanding of what nxt is. What i dont understand is what this chat app is using nxt for? I'm not sure why it is so difficult for anyone to explain this more clearly?

He will explain it after everything is launched.

Have a little bit of patience.


No worries, I have the same exact questions. ;) I just don't see what this will bring over the dozens of chat apps out there and how it is tied to nxt. Unless you can send Nxt to those you chat with.

Waiting... <<popcorn>>

Yes we can do PEER to PEER Nxt transfers if we wanted right now.  But our focus is messaging at this time.

Plus international breaking news. :)


We need to 1st build our userbase then EDUCATE them regarding crypto's.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: devphp on September 10, 2014, 06:48:45 am
So do we still have no idea on how this app actually even uses nxt?

From what I figure the app generates a pass phrase and stores it locally on the phone, the account is perhaps funded with 1-2 NXT by Nxtty server to post the public key of the account to the network (the app sends the public key to the Nxtty server prior to that). Then the app uses this pass phrase to encrypt communications and sends them through Nxtty server without using NXT network. Because users have a normal NXT account on their phone, they can receive Nxttycoins through NXT network with the asset transfer feature. Then they can spend their Nxttycoins through Nxtty server to other Nxtty users, without using NXT network just like communications, as that would be too expensive fee wise and slow.

NXT network is only used for account initialization to post the public key and transfer Nxttycoin to the new account. I guess later users can be introduced to more features, as they have a normal NXT pass phrase, they can use all the other features of NXT as those become built into the app. But those are just my guesses.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: swartzfeger on September 10, 2014, 07:37:24 am
NXT network is only used for account initialization to post the public key and transfer Nxttycoin to the new account. I guess later users can be introduced to more features, as they have a normal NXT pass phrase, they can use all the other features of NXT as those become built into the app. But those are just my guesses.


It's like Nxt is a gateway drug platform :D
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 10, 2014, 08:34:44 am
Below was written on BTT in early January 2013.

Strategy for Main stream adoption

Steps:

1) Push Anonymous Messaging ONLY on WORLD CLASS DESIGNED ANDROID/IPHONE APPS (OUR FLAGSHIP APPS).

2) Make these APPS available on Google Play/App Store.


3) USE the current market situation to our advantage AS NO ONE IS NOW SURE ABOUT USING THERE MOBILE FOR SECURE COMMUNICATION....The NSA sent us a blessing in disguise....AN UNTAPPED MARKET.

4) Once Nxt Messaging has gained a strong following 100,000 - 500,000 downloads we start to Unlock/roll out other features of NXT ....ie. auction/storage/payment/Asset exchange/marketplace etc....thru regular updates once users start using the messaging app they become lock into the larger NXT ecosystem.


5) My real world examples are LINE & WECHAT....both started as msg apps but NOW OFFER IN APP PAYMENTS.


Chinese smartphone manufacturer Xioami sold 100,000 smartphones inside the WECHAT messaging app last month.


The above is a Strategy for gaining MAINSTREAM ADOPTION which will give us payment possibilities without the need to push payment as our main selling point....this is be a unique approach for a crypto currency.


WOULD LOVE TO HEAR NXTERS OPINIONS ON THE ABOVE STRATEGY....is it workable or not?


PLEASE LET US WHAT YOU THINK!
« Last Edit: January 13, 2014, 11:27:54 PM»
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 10, 2014, 09:19:16 am
Below was written on BTT in early January 2013.

Strategy for Main stream adoption

Steps:

1) Push Anonymous Messaging ONLY on WORLD CLASS DESIGNED ANDROID/IPHONE APPS (OUR FLAGSHIP APPS).

2) Make these APPS available on Google Play/App Store.


3) USE the current market situation to our advantage AS NO ONE IS NOW SURE ABOUT USING THERE MOBILE FOR SECURE COMMUNICATION....The NSA sent us a blessing in disguise....AN UNTAPPED MARKET.

4) Once Nxt Messaging has gained a strong following 100,000 - 500,000 downloads we start to Unlock/roll out other features of NXT ....ie. auction/storage/payment/Asset exchange/marketplace etc....thru regular updates once users start using the messaging app they become lock into the larger NXT ecosystem.


5) My real world examples are LINE & WECHAT....both started as msg apps but NOW OFFER IN APP PAYMENTS.


Chinese smartphone manufacturer Xioami sold 100,000 smartphones inside the WECHAT messaging app last month.


The above is a Strategy for gaining MAINSTREAM ADOPTION which will give us payment possibilities without the need to push payment as our main selling point....this is be a unique approach for a crypto currency.


WOULD LOVE TO HEAR NXTERS OPINIONS ON THE ABOVE STRATEGY....is it workable or not?


PLEASE LET US WHAT YOU THINK!
« Last Edit: January 13, 2014, 11:27:54 PM»

I think step 4 is the most important one.

Gaining a lot of users. And keep the users satisfied.
When you have this. You're in a strong position to negotiate with other businesses; like paying products with Nxttycoin/NXT.

So I think this is possible. But only if the first 4 steps are successful.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on September 10, 2014, 09:51:47 am
Agree with the post above! +1
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 10, 2014, 10:03:01 am
Agree with the post above! +1

Me too...that was why I wrote this post almost 9 months ago.  But now things are lot more clear ...I think mobile payments will take off with Apple's new setup.

It so easy but Apple will never allow us to use the Fingerprint but Google will so will have to see how things develop.

Personally i don't think phones are the best way to pay....there is a device which is much much more practical and Apple revealed it yesterday :).
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 10, 2014, 10:17:20 am
Agree with the post above! +1

Me too...that was why I wrote this post almost 9 months ago.  But now things are lot more clear ...I think mobile payments will take off with Apple's new setup.

It so easy but Apple will never allow us to use the Fingerprint but Google will so will have to see how things develop.

Personally i don't think phones are the best way to pay....there is a device which is much much more practical and Apple revealed it yesterday :).

I will never buy a smartwatch.

But almost everyone has a smartphone.

Remember; 10 years ago when we forgot our wallets at home we went back to get it. Now, we don't care. We only go back when we forget our smartphone. My opinion is that a smartphone is the next payment 'object' that will be used the most. Ofcourse the smartwatch will make it possible too, but it's more like an accessory.

Smartphones will get more attention with payments in 2015.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 10, 2014, 10:34:07 am

I will never buy a smartwatch.

But almost everyone has a smartphone.

Remember; 10 years ago when we forgot our wallets at home we went back to get it. Now, we don't care. We only go back when we forget our smartphone. My opinion is that a smartphone is the next payment 'object' that will be used the most. Ofcourse the smartwatch will make it possible too, but it's more like an accessory.

Smartphones will get more attention with payments in 2015.

Do u wear a watch?

From looking at the hands of people over the last few months i would say 6 in 10 people wear a watch.


I think many people will wear an 18 Karat gold Apple Watch....i mean its still jewelry but with unlimited potential.


As we don't know what developers will come up with.

 
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: juicyjuice87 on September 10, 2014, 10:51:21 am
You can't have a good time without a good watch
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 10, 2014, 11:05:17 am
You can't have a good time without a good watch

The watch is more of a fashion thing and I think that's the angle Apple is targeting....I mean its 18 Karat gold...who wouldn't want that as a gift.



Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 10, 2014, 11:08:19 am

I will never buy a smartwatch.

But almost everyone has a smartphone.

Remember; 10 years ago when we forgot our wallets at home we went back to get it. Now, we don't care. We only go back when we forget our smartphone. My opinion is that a smartphone is the next payment 'object' that will be used the most. Ofcourse the smartwatch will make it possible too, but it's more like an accessory.

Smartphones will get more attention with payments in 2015.

Do u wear a watch?

From looking at the hands of people over the last few months i would say 6 in 10 people wear a watch.


I think many people will wear an 18 Karat gold Apple Watch....i mean its still jewelry but with unlimited potential.


As we don't know what developers will come up with.

I wear a watch.

A watch where I don't need to replace the batteries because it's functioning on light energy.

I have no need to complicate things. Like I said; smartwatches will be revolutionary for payment, but I'm not going to buy a smartwatch if I can pay with my smartphone.  ;)

It's a nice to have accessory.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on September 10, 2014, 11:13:17 am
Well, I never wear watch and never will, so smartwatch is not for me imo... lol
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: juicyjuice87 on September 10, 2014, 11:47:54 am
Well, I never wear watch and never will, so smartwatch is not for me imo... lol

I hate wearing watches and I hate Apple even more so I hope this iwatch thingy goes to shit :p

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 10, 2014, 01:22:57 pm
Well, I never wear watch and never will, so smartwatch is not for me imo... lol

I hate wearing watches and I hate Apple even more so I hope this iwatch thingy goes to shit :p

I can't go out without my watch...it feels strange.  :)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 10, 2014, 01:48:05 pm
Well, I never wear watch and never will, so smartwatch is not for me imo... lol

I hate wearing watches and I hate Apple even more so I hope this iwatch thingy goes to shit :p

I can't go out without my watch...it feels strange.  :)

Same here, feels like going out half naked or something without it.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: DrearyUrbanite on September 10, 2014, 02:12:30 pm
Well, I never wear watch and never will, so smartwatch is not for me imo... lol

I hate wearing watches and I hate Apple even more so I hope this iwatch thingy goes to shit :p

I can't go out without my watch...it feels strange.  :)

Same here, though my eyes won't let me see calendar. I will say that the last Apple product I liked was the II+
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 10, 2014, 03:30:22 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/GVUkLGd.png)

Nxtty fans; RT
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Pilot on September 10, 2014, 04:51:14 pm
Well, I never wear watch and never will, so smartwatch is not for me imo... lol

I hate wearing watches and I hate Apple even more so I hope this iwatch thingy goes to shit :p

I don't wear a watch, so no smart watch for me. But, as an Apple stock holder, I hope your hope is blown out of the water and people buy the Apple Watch in droves!!!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Abraxas 147 on September 10, 2014, 05:02:40 pm
BTW: Any updates for launch date? I'm mean NXTTY not iWatch  ;)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 10, 2014, 06:00:15 pm
BTW: Any updates for launch date? I'm mean NXTTY not iWatch  ;)

Text & image cryptomessaging implemented for Android ...only the last mile now.

We have also entered QA phase....the goal is to make it crash free before submission to appstores.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 10, 2014, 07:21:21 pm
The iWatch;

http://9gag.tv/p/aVEpxo/this-apple-watch-parody-will-crush-every-apple-fanboy-heart?ref=fbl9 (http://9gag.tv/p/aVEpxo/this-apple-watch-parody-will-crush-every-apple-fanboy-heart?ref=fbl9)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Pilot on September 10, 2014, 08:08:04 pm
The iWatch;

http://9gag.tv/p/aVEpxo/this-apple-watch-parody-will-crush-every-apple-fanboy-heart?ref=fbl9 (http://9gag.tv/p/aVEpxo/this-apple-watch-parody-will-crush-every-apple-fanboy-heart?ref=fbl9)

Love it. Although, that pretty much applies to all the "smart" watches out there.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: himmelsfaller2 on September 10, 2014, 08:11:29 pm
Well, I never wear watch and never will, so smartwatch is not for me imo... lol
I hate wearing watches and I hate Apple even more so I hope this iwatch thingy goes to shit :p
I don't wear a watch, so no smart watch for me. But, as an Apple stock holder, I hope your hope is blown out of the water and people buy the Apple Watch in droves!!!
I've no smartphone, no watch, I invest my money in cryptos. all I want is a nice profit to realize some big art projects.
btw. the apple watch needs an iphone to work really satisfying....and yes I don' live in the trees. I've a nice renderfarm and do coding in
assembler. self control is better than be controlled by clowns.... ;D
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 10, 2014, 09:11:57 pm

(http://i.imgur.com/z7JkGN2l.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/z7JkGN2.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/z7JkGN2.jpg)


Added one more. Check the original post for all promotional pictures.

(http://i.imgur.com/hKGX0nul.jpg)

http://i.imgur.com/hKGX0nu.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/hKGX0nu.jpg)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 11, 2014, 05:58:26 am
Looking good!

Nxtty will be huge.

I'll bet all kinds of discreet (technical device prototyping) chats would benefit from this kind of security. You just can not put that kind of information in google circles :)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 11, 2014, 06:23:37 am
Looking good!

Nxtty will be huge.

I'll bet all kinds of discreet (technical device prototyping) chats would benefit from this kind of security. You just can not put that kind of information in google circles :)

Once desktop version are launched it will also benefit those doing heavy work loads, can't really trust skype.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 11, 2014, 06:31:42 am
Looking good!

Nxtty will be huge.

I'll bet all kinds of discreet (technical device prototyping) chats would benefit from this kind of security. You just can not put that kind of information in google circles :)

Once desktop version are launched it will also benefit those doing heavy work loads, can't really trust skype.
I can see businesses using the desktop version. But it has to be very simple to use.

Where I work; they do conference calls with Skype.

They can send and receive a meeting invitation by mail. They can also share their desktop screen.

If this can all be possible. I will introduce Nxtty to the office.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 11, 2014, 07:00:27 am
I can see businesses using the desktop version. But it has to be very simple to use.

Where I work; they do conference calls with Skype.

They can send and receive a meeting invitation by mail. They can also share their desktop screen.

If this can all be possible. I will introduce Nxtty to the office.

It will be very simple ...very basic at beginning.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Jimmy2011 on September 11, 2014, 07:09:08 am

Desktop version should be of course very important for business, especially the group chat for those development guys.

AFAIK, many coders, developers and marketing guys work with hipchat.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 11, 2014, 07:56:17 am
Will visit as many android-enthusiasts' sites as I can in the next few days. My business partner -- our trader -- is keen to give Nxttycoin a whirl.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: nextcafe on September 12, 2014, 12:58:03 am
Is there going to be an Iphone release?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 12, 2014, 12:59:25 am
Is there going to be an Iphone release?

Yes iPhone & iPad.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: juicyjuice87 on September 12, 2014, 02:13:44 am
Can someone tell me what's so special about whatsapp?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 12, 2014, 03:02:20 am
Can someone tell me what's so special about whatsapp?

Secure, Free, Multiplatform (iOS, Android, Windows etc) Group Chat, Live News, Tipping, AND

USER OWNED!

You can buy some shares, support it, and make money if you think it will work!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 12, 2014, 03:17:08 am
Nos. 14 on CMC!!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 12, 2014, 03:29:33 am
to the moon!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 12, 2014, 05:51:53 am
I'm curious what the challenge is to win the iPhone 6 :D
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 12, 2014, 07:36:26 am
Nos. 14 on CMC!!

13 and rising!

Choo choo!

(http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/3e7/c3d/5fc/resized/choo-choo-meme-generator-haters-gonna-hate-26f84f.jpg)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: whale on September 12, 2014, 10:15:34 am
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/nxttycoin-price-rises-anticipation-encrypted-messaging-app-release/

So cool
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: ebby on September 12, 2014, 12:25:30 pm
I want to say something to this Killerapp.

I see it as The App for getting so much users into NXT we never had seen befor.

Lets say you need a Taxi. Call a Taxi and ask him if he would take NXTTYcoins. Well he don't know what that is, tell him about it and that he can earn money and avoid taxes if he want to. I think that any Taxi driver would think about it, because they working so many hours and don't get paid enough.
So next time you call that Taxi you can pay with NXTTYcoins, because it is so easy to get NXTTY messenger for every smartphone and it have the NXTTY wallet already in there and you can chat like in whatsapp, threema etc.

I think this can happen to many services like Bus or hairdressers etc, these jobs are poorly paid and would benefit from this.

NXTTY messenger will make many other apps obsolete.

Thats what I think. ;-)

Greets,
eb
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Pilot on September 12, 2014, 04:30:42 pm
Can someone tell me what's so special about whatsapp?

Secure, Free, Multiplatform (iOS, Android, Windows etc) Group Chat, Live News, Tipping, AND

USER OWNED!

You can buy some shares, support it, and make money if you think it will work!

Are you talking about Whatsapp or Nextty?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Pilot on September 12, 2014, 04:36:45 pm
Can someone tell me what's so special about whatsapp?

Whatsapp basically took the features of iMessage, which uses data rather than SMS servers to send messages to each other and release it as a cross platform messaging app. It got very big in many places where SMS was quite expensive like South Affrica, South America, even in the united states some phone plans charge $10/mo to get SMS messages.

Since Whatsapp uses data rather than SMS people could message each other almost an unlimited amount since it uses so little data.

Now there are many alternatives of which Nxtty is competing with. I'm still not 100% sure what it's USP is, because encrypted messages isn't unique. I would guess it is the NXT wallet aspect.

http://getgems.org/ is another recent app trying to get into this market as well.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 12, 2014, 05:21:44 pm
http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/nxttycoin-price-rises-anticipation-encrypted-messaging-app-release/

So cool

Agreed!  ;D
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: m30188 on September 12, 2014, 05:29:57 pm
Is there a release date?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: DrearyUrbanite on September 12, 2014, 05:48:44 pm
Just about to hit number 12... and climbing.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 12, 2014, 06:33:40 pm
Just about to hit number 12... and climbing.

(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/gallery/omg/RDJ_Woah.gif)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 12, 2014, 06:42:30 pm
NXTTYcoin is added to BTER's CNY (Chinese Yuan) market at https://t.co/zoQ5KMzwf5
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: PhoneOperator on September 12, 2014, 09:32:30 pm
How does the app differ from Threema? How does NRS add functionality?

+1

Please answer how your app differs from Threema or https://crypto.cat/ ?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: viennavtc on September 13, 2014, 12:01:15 am
we have coins
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 13, 2014, 12:16:18 am
I normally take the weekends off, but . . . I am gonna spend the morning promoting that new -- whatchamacallit? -- 'Nxttycoin'

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 13, 2014, 03:25:23 am
I normally take the weekends off, but . . . I am gonna spend the morning promoting that new -- whatchamacallit? -- 'Nxttycoin'

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia

No more time off IMZ
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: lucky88888 on September 13, 2014, 04:20:14 am
it would be so weird if Nxtty took over bitcoin in marketcap before all of others. lol
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: juicyjuice87 on September 13, 2014, 04:29:22 am
I normally take the weekends off, but . . . I am gonna spend the morning promoting that new -- whatchamacallit? -- 'Nxttycoin'

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia

No more time off IMZ

Haha spoken like a true stake holder.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 13, 2014, 04:58:54 am
Something came up in conversation yesterday:

although there are second-generation cryptos that offer 'instruments' -- like BitshareX's DAC's, and other assets on the SAE -- isn't Nxttycoin actually the first of its kind?

Mark
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 13, 2014, 05:29:27 am
Something came up in conversation yesterday:

although there are second-generation cryptos that offer 'instruments' -- like BitshareX's DAC's, and other assets on the SAE -- isn't Nxttycoin actually the first of its kind?

Mark

I think the coin aspect itself is becoming very important as this is novel stuff....almost like an experiment.


"A process cannot be understood by stopping it. Understanding must move with the flow of the process, must join it and flow with it."

Dune




Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: PhoneOperator on September 13, 2014, 08:28:13 am
we have coins

Can I transfer those coins.Can I also transfer bitcoins?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 13, 2014, 08:51:58 am
we have coins

Can I transfer those coins.Can I also transfer bitcoins?

Our 1st priority is to educate our users about cryptocurrencies....we are in kindergarten right now so we will need to take baby steps.

We are a window to the world of crypto for our users....99% of which will be taking their 1st steps into our world.

At later stages YES, to your question.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: PhoneOperator on September 13, 2014, 08:54:08 am
we have coins

Can I transfer those coins.Can I also transfer bitcoins?

Our 1st priority is to educate our users about cryptocurrencies....we are in kindergarten right now so we will need to take baby steps.

We are a window to the world of crypto for our users....99% of which will be taking their 1st steps into our world.

At later stages YES, to your question.

+1

Please, let them know about NXT
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 13, 2014, 08:57:19 am
Gotta rest, but Nos. 11 CMC.

Mark
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 13, 2014, 09:39:34 am
Gotta rest, but Nos. 11 CMC.

Mark

We have only started.  :)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 13, 2014, 09:40:24 am
we have coins

Can I transfer those coins.Can I also transfer bitcoins?

Our 1st priority is to educate our users about cryptocurrencies....we are in kindergarten right now so we will need to take baby steps.

We are a window to the world of crypto for our users....99% of which will be taking their 1st steps into our world.

At later stages YES, to your question.

+1

Please, let them know about NXT

That's the plan, the potential is enormous....but the average person is completely unaware.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on September 13, 2014, 09:49:13 am
God, Nxttycoin rock, still gaining value!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 13, 2014, 10:04:19 am
God, Nxttycoin rock, still gaining value!

I believe the true value and price will correlate better later or when people start adaption to new way to communicate.
Price-wise it would not surprise me if it where somewhere in top 5 one of these days.
I am not selling these cheap.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 13, 2014, 10:49:59 am
God, Nxttycoin rock, still gaining value!

I believe the true value and price will correlate better later or when people start adaption to new way to communicate.
Price-wise it would not surprise me if it where somewhere in top 5 one of these days.
I am not selling these cheap.

I'm not selling until Microsoft buys Nxtty.

(http://i.imgur.com/xmLroSK.jpg)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 13, 2014, 11:23:45 am
Feel free to laugh: our 'company' policy (IndiaMikeZulu is an alliance -- that's why I always put my name as well) is to always sell earlier rather than later (but we have a 'home-coin,' which we develop, and we like to develop anything we have any real stake in).

Well . . . I sat around this afternoon, saying, 'Sell 80% now. That's S.O.P.!' -- but a voice kept saying, 'Yeh . . . but the app hasn't even launched yet. It's meant for Androidistas, but they haven't even discovered it yet. So . . . Nxttycoin may have a long long way to go.'

m
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 13, 2014, 10:39:13 pm
 :o

15,000 fans on our page

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Nxtty/645168825569486?fref=nf
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on September 13, 2014, 10:46:31 pm
I want the real app for android! Now! lol  ;D
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 13, 2014, 10:52:03 pm
50,000 plus likes on our Cryptomessenger post:   :o  ;D

https://www.facebook.com/645168825569486/photos/a.650530295033339.1073741828.645168825569486/708781592541542/?type=1&theater
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 14, 2014, 12:02:10 am
Gonna plug along on android and other sites today.

Mark
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 14, 2014, 02:55:44 am
Coinmarketcap Glitsch Whatever: Market Report

One: all well on SAE. Plenty of buys happening. (I just bought 2,855)
Two: Bittrex BTC/NXTTY: SOLID buying going on. All well.
Three: Bittrex CNY/NXTTY: yah, some profit-taking goin' on here; but it's only 3% down on 18% of total trade.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 14, 2014, 03:00:57 am
Just a fair warning.

The price currently is inflated by a low supply. Kind of a auroracoin situation.

By no means is this asset a scam, but the price is inflated by a lower supply than most people realize. Only 20% are tradeable, most likely if any of those are introduced into the market the price will be significantly lower than it is now PER NXTTY.

(sorry if everyone already knew this! then I will piss off fast!)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 03:38:41 am
Just a fair warning.

The price currently is inflated by a low supply. Kind of a auroracoin situation.

By no means is this asset a scam, but the price is inflated by a lower supply than most people realize. Only 20% are tradeable, most likely if any of those are introduced into the market the price will be significantly lower than it is now PER NXTTY.

(sorry if everyone already knew this! then I will piss off fast!)

The situation is the same as NXT or any other coin.  The Asset issuing account only has 40 million so that mean 960 million has moved from that account.


So should we lower Nxt supply numbers also as most coins are not being traded?

Looks like someone is bit peeved at us....well we shall see....
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: sparta_cuss on September 14, 2014, 03:42:59 am
Coinmarketcap just adjusted the total supply number to 200,000,000, which dramatically (and expectedly) lowered the market cap. Some people will be wondering why Nxttycoin is now at #27.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 14, 2014, 03:43:01 am
Just a fair warning.

The price currently is inflated by a low supply. Kind of a auroracoin situation.

By no means is this asset a scam, but the price is inflated by a lower supply than most people realize. Only 20% are tradeable, most likely if any of those are introduced into the market the price will be significantly lower than it is now PER NXTTY.

(sorry if everyone already knew this! then I will piss off fast!)

The situation is the same as NXT or any other coin.  The Asset issuing account only has 40 million so that mean 960 million has moved from that account.


So should we lower Nxt supply numbers also as most coins are not being traded?

Looks like someone is bit peeved at us....well we shall see....

I am not at all trying to harm your reputation, sorry if it feels that way!

Just wanted to spread awareness, that 800 M NXTTY sit in ONE account and are not in markets hand.

NXT is not in the same situation, as all the coins are in hands of people that COULD potentialy enter the market any second.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 03:43:28 am
It really does seem sour grapes. Whats the difference sold or held? They didnt like that an Asset was challenging their precious top ten
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 14, 2014, 03:49:51 am
It really does seem sour grapes. Whats the difference sold or held? They didnt like that an Asset was challenging their precious top ten

Listing the price * 1 bn, would be the same as listing all 100bn ripples.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: sparta_cuss on September 14, 2014, 03:51:42 am
For PoW coins, they list the available (to the market) number, not the number that will eventually be available to the market. This seems appropriate, since market capitalization is really the amount of money available as credit or asset. But if Nxtty is holding the remaining 800 M, it's still an asset, isn't it? 

Edit: Nope, that's not right. The key word is "market." If it's not available to be traded, it's not on the market. 
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 03:52:08 am
It really does seem sour grapes. Whats the difference sold or held? They didnt like that an Asset was challenging their precious top ten

Listing the price * 1 bn, would be the same as listing all 100bn ripples.

Total nonsense....how much of Nxt is traded?  how much of Ripple is traded?


Those coins are held for the users and distribution will start after app is launched.


I think someone is just bit peeved at us....well it not stop our progress.



Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 14, 2014, 03:52:49 am
It really does seem sour grapes. Whats the difference sold or held? They didnt like that an Asset was challenging their precious top ten

Listing the price * 1 bn, would be the same as listing all 100bn ripples.

Total nonsense....how much of Nxt is traded?



Not nonsense.

It is not about how much is traded, but how much is AVAILABLE to be traded.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 03:56:32 am
It really does seem sour grapes. Whats the difference sold or held? They didnt like that an Asset was challenging their precious top ten

Listing the price * 1 bn, would be the same as listing all 100bn ripples.

Total nonsense....how much of Nxt is traded?



Not nonsense.

It is not about how much is traded, but how much is AVAILABLE to be traded.

Its the exact same situation as Nxt, how much Nxt is available for sale on the market?


Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 14, 2014, 03:58:50 am
It really does seem sour grapes. Whats the difference sold or held? They didnt like that an Asset was challenging their precious top ten

Listing the price * 1 bn, would be the same as listing all 100bn ripples.

Total nonsense....how much of Nxt is traded?



Not nonsense.

It is not about how much is traded, but how much is AVAILABLE to be traded.

Its the exact same situation as Nxt, how much Nxt is available for sale on the market?




Do you mean: How much NXT is available for individuals or businesses to put up for sale?

Answer: nealy 100% of the NXT that is not lost.

How much of NXTTY is available for individuals or busnesses to put up for sale?

Answer: exactly 20%.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 04:00:27 am
It really does seem sour grapes. Whats the difference sold or held? They didnt like that an Asset was challenging their precious top ten

Listing the price * 1 bn, would be the same as listing all 100bn ripples.

Total nonsense....how much of Nxt is traded?



Not nonsense.

It is not about how much is traded, but how much is AVAILABLE to be traded.

Its the exact same situation as Nxt, how much Nxt is available for sale on the market?




Do you mean: How much NXT is available for individuals or businesses to put up for sale?

Answer: nealy 100% of the NXT that is not lost.

How much of NXTTY is available for individuals or busnesses to put up for sale?

Answer: exactly 20%.

100%  same as with holders in all coins.  Are you able to get 100% of Nas to be put up for sale right now...no u can't cuz other holders control that supply and they are Hodling.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: sparta_cuss on September 14, 2014, 04:01:49 am
For the right price, all extant NXT could potentially enter the marketplace. In other words, there is no legal or contractual barrier to this NXT, which is held in individual wallets, entering the marketplace in Sell orders.
Is this also true of all outstanding Nxttycoin?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 14, 2014, 04:03:26 am
For the right price, all extant NXT could potentially enter the marketplace. In other words, there is no legal or contractual barrier to this NXT, which is held in individual wallets, entering the marketplace in a Sell order.
Is this also true of all outstanding Nxttycoin?

No it is not. Those NXTTY are for interest payments and other payments.

Obviously if they break their promisses, they could sell as much as they want ;)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 04:04:24 am
For the right price, all extant NXT could potentially enter the marketplace. In other words, there is no legal or contractual barrier to this NXT, which is held in individual wallets, entering the marketplace in Sell orders.
Is this also true of all outstanding Nxttycoin?

Yes
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: sparta_cuss on September 14, 2014, 04:06:07 am
For the right price, all extant NXT could potentially enter the marketplace. In other words, there is no legal or contractual barrier to this NXT, which is held in individual wallets, entering the marketplace in Sell orders.
Is this also true of all outstanding Nxttycoin?

Yes

Ok, this is very interesting. Can you say more about what would prompt the sale of some of the 800 M NXTTY? Under what conditions would this happen?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 14, 2014, 04:08:54 am
For the right price, all extant NXT could potentially enter the marketplace. In other words, there is no legal or contractual barrier to this NXT, which is held in individual wallets, entering the marketplace in Sell orders.
Is this also true of all outstanding Nxttycoin?

Yes

So you have flat-out lied about your 12 months interest program?

Because arithmetic says that if you pay 12 times 5% interest you can only sell that much NXTTY:

1000000000/1,05^12 = 556837418 NXTTY.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 04:09:46 am
For the right price, all extant NXT could potentially enter the marketplace. In other words, there is no legal or contractual barrier to this NXT, which is held in individual wallets, entering the marketplace in Sell orders.
Is this also true of all outstanding Nxttycoin?

Yes

Ok, this is very interesting. Can you say more about what would prompt the sale of some of the 800 M NXTTY? Under what conditions would this happen?

Its already been announced that 250 million will be distributed as gift by the Nxttycoin Foundation to the 1st 100,000 users right after launch.  The balance will be distributed to next tranche of users and so on.

How much Bitcoin do the Bitcoin Foundation hold?

Mastercoin Foundation?

Ect....

 
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 04:10:38 am
For the right price, all extant NXT could potentially enter the marketplace. In other words, there is no legal or contractual barrier to this NXT, which is held in individual wallets, entering the marketplace in Sell orders.
Is this also true of all outstanding Nxttycoin?

Yes

So you have flat-out lied about your 12 months interest program?

Because arithmetic says that if you pay 12 times 5% interest you can only sell that much NXTTY:

1000000000/1,05^12 = 556837418 NXTTY.

Please stop spreading FUD.

It seems you have been bit jealous of NXTTY success....i've noticed your comments for some time now but have kept quiet.


Why are you so negative towards us?



Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 14, 2014, 04:11:00 am
For the right price, all extant NXT could potentially enter the marketplace. In other words, there is no legal or contractual barrier to this NXT, which is held in individual wallets, entering the marketplace in Sell orders.
Is this also true of all outstanding Nxttycoin?

Yes

Ok, this is very interesting. Can you say more about what would prompt the sale of some of the 800 M NXTTY? Under what conditions would this happen?

Its already been announced that 250 million will be distributed as gift by the Nxttycoin Foundation to the 1st 100,000 users right after launch.  The balance will be distributed to next tranche of users and so on.

How much Bitcoin do the Bitcoin Foundation hold?

Mastercoin Foundation?

Ect....

 

So you just admitted that 250 M NXTTY are held for this promotion.

That is a contradiction to your post before that 1 bn are available to be traded NOW!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 14, 2014, 04:12:21 am
For the right price, all extant NXT could potentially enter the marketplace. In other words, there is no legal or contractual barrier to this NXT, which is held in individual wallets, entering the marketplace in Sell orders.
Is this also true of all outstanding Nxttycoin?

Yes

So you have flat-out lied about your 12 months interest program?

Because arithmetic says that if you pay 12 times 5% interest you can only sell that much NXTTY:

1000000000/1,05^12 = 556837418 NXTTY.

Please stop spreading FUD.



FUD = Fear Uncertainty and Doubt.

I am asking about Facts and your are flat-out lying about your available supply.

Do as you like, but don't represent a company and lie to potential/current investors.

But what do I know...
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 04:16:27 am
For the right price, all extant NXT could potentially enter the marketplace. In other words, there is no legal or contractual barrier to this NXT, which is held in individual wallets, entering the marketplace in Sell orders.
Is this also true of all outstanding Nxttycoin?

Yes

Ok, this is very interesting. Can you say more about what would prompt the sale of some of the 800 M NXTTY? Under what conditions would this happen?

Its already been announced that 250 million will be distributed as gift by the Nxttycoin Foundation to the 1st 100,000 users right after launch.  The balance will be distributed to next tranche of users and so on.

How much Bitcoin do the Bitcoin Foundation hold?

Mastercoin Foundation?

Ect....

 

So you just admitted that 250 M NXTTY are held for this promotion.

That is a contradiction to your post before that 1 bn are available to be traded NOW!

There is no promotion the users of Nxtty will be the majority holders of the coin.

They will also be able to sell from their wallets.


Until that time the coin is being held by the Nxttycoin Foundation in trust.




Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 04:17:35 am
For the right price, all extant NXT could potentially enter the marketplace. In other words, there is no legal or contractual barrier to this NXT, which is held in individual wallets, entering the marketplace in Sell orders.
Is this also true of all outstanding Nxttycoin?

Yes

So you have flat-out lied about your 12 months interest program?

Because arithmetic says that if you pay 12 times 5% interest you can only sell that much NXTTY:

1000000000/1,05^12 = 556837418 NXTTY.

Please stop spreading FUD.



FUD = Fear Uncertainty and Doubt.

I am asking about Facts and your are flat-out lying about your available supply.

Do as you like, but don't represent a company and lie to potential/current investors.

But what do I know...

Sorry I should have mentioned JEALOUS instead.

It seems you have been bit jealous of NXTTYcoin success....i've noticed your comments for some time now but have kept quiet.


Why are you so negative towards us?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 14, 2014, 04:19:43 am
For the right price, all extant NXT could potentially enter the marketplace. In other words, there is no legal or contractual barrier to this NXT, which is held in individual wallets, entering the marketplace in Sell orders.
Is this also true of all outstanding Nxttycoin?

Yes

So you have flat-out lied about your 12 months interest program?

Because arithmetic says that if you pay 12 times 5% interest you can only sell that much NXTTY:

1000000000/1,05^12 = 556837418 NXTTY.

Please stop spreading FUD.



FUD = Fear Uncertainty and Doubt.

I am asking about Facts and your are flat-out lying about your available supply.

Do as you like, but don't represent a company and lie to potential/current investors.

But what do I know...

Sorry I should have mentioned JEALOUS instead.

It seems you have been bit jealous of NXTTYcoin success....i've noticed your comments for some time now but have kept quiet.


Why are you so negative towards us?

Are you serious?

I commented today and one comment a few days back that 190,000,000 NXT market cap is ridiculous.

The reason why I am posting here is that I don't want newbies to lose money because they are thinking that the price was created with full supply. I am also part of the reason that the CMC supply was adjusted.

When this house of card collapses, this will shine a bad light on NXT.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: sparta_cuss on September 14, 2014, 04:22:25 am
If 250 M is reserved for new users after launch, then it is not available to the market. It can't go on sale right now, right? And if you are paying 5%/month dividend to current holders, then this needs to be in reserve now, too, and can't be sold. So how can it be the case that 100% of the total (1 billion) is available to the market right now, as you wrote above?

The "market cap" number cuts both ways. I think I understand why you may want to use the higher number. It seems only fair to let your investors and potential investors know the number of the total amount of coins in existence. This way they can see that they own a small portion of a big pie. But it is, shall we say, a little confusing, if that total amount can't actually be bought and sold on the "market" right now.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 14, 2014, 04:24:40 am
If 250 M is reserved for new users after launch, then it is not available to the market. It can't go on sale right now, right? And if you are paying 5%/month dividend to current holders, then this needs to be in reserve now, too, and can't be sold. So how can it be the case that 100% of the total (1 billion) is available to the market right now, as you wrote above?

The "market cap" number cuts both ways. I think I understand why you may want to use the higher number. It seems only fair to let your investors and potential investors know the number of the total amount of coins in existence. This way they can see that they own a small portion of a big pie. But it is, shall we say, a little confusing, if that total amount can't actually be bought and sold on the "market" right now.

You are a very calm person. Very well written. I should try to explain things more like you ;)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 04:26:18 am
If 250 M is reserved for new users after launch, then it is not available to the market. It can't go on sale right now, right? And if you are paying 5%/month dividend to current holders, then this needs to be in reserve now, too, and can't be sold. So how can it be the case that 100% of the total (1 billion) is available to the market right now, as you wrote above?

The "market cap" number cuts both ways. I think I understand why you may want to use the higher number. It seems only fair to let your investors and potential investors know the number of the total amount of coins in existence. This way they can see that they own a small portion of a big pie. But it is, shall we say, a little confusing, if that total amount can't actually be bought and sold on the "market" right now.

It is actually better for us users don't care about the total market cap they care about the value per coin.

The total amount is 1 billion coins.

I repeat the majority of NXTTY will be owned by the users and they will be able to sell & buy from their wallet.




Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: sparta_cuss on September 14, 2014, 04:34:47 am
If 250 M is reserved for new users after launch, then it is not available to the market. It can't go on sale right now, right? And if you are paying 5%/month dividend to current holders, then this needs to be in reserve now, too, and can't be sold. So how can it be the case that 100% of the total (1 billion) is available to the market right now, as you wrote above?

The "market cap" number cuts both ways. I think I understand why you may want to use the higher number. It seems only fair to let your investors and potential investors know the number of the total amount of coins in existence. This way they can see that they own a small portion of a big pie. But it is, shall we say, a little confusing, if that total amount can't actually be bought and sold on the "market" right now.

It is actually better for us users don't care about the total market cap they care about the value per coin.

The total amount is 1 billion coins.

I repeat the majority of NXTTY will be owned by the users and they will be able to sell & buy from their wallet.

That part, the bolded part, is only partially true. I have read a number of posts where people are rejoicing over the market cap and the rank on CMC. It does seem to matter, emotionally. But that CMC market cap also acts as a signal to them. People want to be on the winning team, and a high CMC number makes them feel like they are winning, and so they invest more. And it's not just NXTTY users. I don't mean to pick on them. Remember when all the Nxters fussed and fumed over the Darkcoin rank, then the BitsharesX rank, then the Ripple rank? CMC serves as a kind of scoreboard, so market cap is very important to investors' perceptions.

But let's not lose sight of a very important thing you just wrote: "the majority of NXTTY will be owned by the users." If this means that the majority of the "company" will be owned by the users, then you need to shout this from the rooftops. GEMS is coming out with an app like Nxtty, and one of their main selling points is that it's better than WhatsApp because it's owned by the users.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: m30188 on September 14, 2014, 04:37:15 am
(http://s29.postimg.org/kyyntl93r/nxtty_posts.png)

Nxtty fever.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 04:42:13 am
If 250 M is reserved for new users after launch, then it is not available to the market. It can't go on sale right now, right? And if you are paying 5%/month dividend to current holders, then this needs to be in reserve now, too, and can't be sold. So how can it be the case that 100% of the total (1 billion) is available to the market right now, as you wrote above?

The "market cap" number cuts both ways. I think I understand why you may want to use the higher number. It seems only fair to let your investors and potential investors know the number of the total amount of coins in existence. This way they can see that they own a small portion of a big pie. But it is, shall we say, a little confusing, if that total amount can't actually be bought and sold on the "market" right now.

It is actually better for us users don't care about the total market cap they care about the value per coin.

The total amount is 1 billion coins.

I repeat the majority of NXTTY will be owned by the users and they will be able to sell & buy from their wallet.

That part, the bolded part, is only partially true. I have read a number of posts where people are rejoicing over the market cap and the rank on CMC. It does seem to matter, emotionally. But that CMC market cap also acts as a signal to them. People want to be on the winning team, and a high CMC number makes them feel like they are winning, and so they invest more. And it's not just NXTTY users. I don't mean to pick on them. Remember when all the Nxters fussed and fumed over the Darkcoin rank, then the BitsharesX rank, then the Ripple rank? CMC serves as a kind of scoreboard, so market cap is very important to investors' perceptions.

But let's not lose sight of a very important thing you just wrote: "the majority of NXTTY will be owned by the users." If this means that the majority of the "company" will be owned by the users, then you need to shout this from the rooftops. GEMS is coming out with an app like Nxtty, and one of their main selling points is that it's better than WhatsApp because it's owned by the users.

We have no control over what people say.

To be honest with you 99% of the users don't know about CMC and they will never go to that site.

But they will see their holdings in their Nxtty wallet, there is a clear reason I chose the NXTTYcoin name.  Anyone can see that NXTTYcoin is the perfect in app currency for our cryptomessenger.



Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 04:51:31 am
The reason why I am posting here is that I don't want newbies to lose money because they are thinking that the price was created with full supply. I am also part of the reason that the CMC supply was adjusted.

This is some serious bad juju, internal NXT fighting bullshit you are pulling here TwinWineNerd. You're not the NXT police. If you don't like it, don't buy it. It's not your problem or business otherwise.

Landomata made an IPO and raised a lot of NXT from a lot of senior NXT users. People have the right to speculate. This is KEY to NXT. Naysayers and trolls actively destroying value are counter to the decentralized community.

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I am also part of the reason that the CMC supply was adjusted.
  Who are you? The command center? ALL HEIL TWINNNENRRRD
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 14, 2014, 04:52:23 am
The reason why I am posting here is that I don't want newbies to lose money because they are thinking that the price was created with full supply. I am also part of the reason that the CMC supply was adjusted.

This is some serious bad juju, internal NXT fighting bullshit you are pulling here TwinWineNerd. You're not the NXT police. If you don't like it, don't buy it. It's not your problem or business otherwise.

Landomata made an IPO and raised a lot of NXT from a lot of senior NXT users. People have the right to speculate. This is KEY to NXT. Naysayers and trolls actively destroying value are counter to the decentralized community.

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I am also part of the reason that the CMC supply was adjusted.
  Who are you? The command center? ALL HEIL TWINNNENRRRD

I am sorry, I forgot it is ok to deceite and lie to NXT newbies.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: sparta_cuss on September 14, 2014, 04:59:42 am
Easy now. TwinWinNerD may not have always chosen his words carefully, but take a look at the last few pages and you will see that landomata's explanations just didn't make a lot of sense. "Market cap" needs to mean something definitive, and TwinWinNerD and I were trying to get at what lando thought it meant, and what investors think it means. Sometimes it's a little ugly in here, but lots of money is at stake, not just for the "senior NXT people," but for everyone else.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 05:04:47 am
Easy now. TwinWinNerD may not have always chosen his words carefully, but take a look at the last few pages and you will see that landomata's explanations just didn't make a lot of sense. "Market cap" needs to mean something definitive, and TwinWinNerD and I were trying to get at what lando thought it meant, and what investors think it means. Sometimes it's a little ugly in here, but lots of money is at stake, not just for the "senior NXT people," but for everyone else.

We raised 1 million NXT and this was transfered to asset issuing account 2 months before AE went live.

If we wanted to scam or harm Nxt it would have been done at that time.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 05:05:50 am
The reason why I am posting here is that I don't want newbies to lose money because they are thinking that the price was created with full supply. I am also part of the reason that the CMC supply was adjusted.

This is some serious bad juju, internal NXT fighting bullshit you are pulling here TwinWineNerd. You're not the NXT police. If you don't like it, don't buy it. It's not your problem or business otherwise.

Landomata made an IPO and raised a lot of NXT from a lot of senior NXT users. People have the right to speculate. This is KEY to NXT. Naysayers and trolls actively destroying value are counter to the decentralized community.

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I am also part of the reason that the CMC supply was adjusted.
  Who are you? The command center? ALL HEIL TWINNNENRRRD

I am sorry, I forgot it is ok to deceite and lie to NXT newbies.

No one investing in anything can be covered by the newbie clause. thats BS. Due Diligence for all. Your crusade is much more destructive because its coming from your high horse.
If you don't like the way things look, then raise those points, and if you smell rotten in Denmark, say so and get out. Otherwise youre a troll. Plain and simple.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: sparta_cuss on September 14, 2014, 05:07:12 am
Easy now. TwinWinNerD may not have always chosen his words carefully, but take a look at the last few pages and you will see that landomata's explanations just didn't make a lot of sense. "Market cap" needs to mean something definitive, and TwinWinNerD and I were trying to get at what lando thought it meant, and what investors think it means. Sometimes it's a little ugly in here, but lots of money is at stake, not just for the "senior NXT people," but for everyone else.

We raised 1 million NXT and this was transfered to asset issuing account 2 months before AE went live.

If we wanted to scam or harm Nxt it would have been done at that time.

NO ONE is saying it's a scam. Hell, I bought a shit ton myself. I like this product. But I'm still confused about it. Legitimate questions about how the math works out ought to be valid here.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 05:12:33 am
Easy now. TwinWinNerD may not have always chosen his words carefully, but take a look at the last few pages and you will see that landomata's explanations just didn't make a lot of sense. "Market cap" needs to mean something definitive, and TwinWinNerD and I were trying to get at what lando thought it meant, and what investors think it means. Sometimes it's a little ugly in here, but lots of money is at stake, not just for the "senior NXT people," but for everyone else.

No, you guys are the ones that "manipulated the market cap". These shares exist. Like 10K sharefund0 exist and 1,800 are sold. Like Coinomat has 3M shares and 2M are held by the Issuer. You decided to hunt down one asset and screw it up.

Thanks again for hurting NXT and the businesses that are working hard to grow it.

Why don't you go back to bitcoin and leave us the F alone?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 05:15:32 am
Easy now. TwinWinNerD may not have always chosen his words carefully, but take a look at the last few pages and you will see that landomata's explanations just didn't make a lot of sense. "Market cap" needs to mean something definitive, and TwinWinNerD and I were trying to get at what lando thought it meant, and what investors think it means. Sometimes it's a little ugly in here, but lots of money is at stake, not just for the "senior NXT people," but for everyone else.

We raised 1 million NXT and this was transfered to asset issuing account 2 months before AE went live.

If we wanted to scam or harm Nxt it would have been done at that time.

NO ONE is saying it's a scam. Hell, I bought a shit ton myself. I like this product. But I'm still confused about it. Legitimate questions about how the math works out ought to be valid here.

That is fine did you read the discuss on possible sale scenario's as that was pretty heated but it cleared things up a bit.

But you should also understand that we cannot reveal everything as competitors will take our idea's.

I already announced on Facebook that 250 million will be issued to the 1st 100,000 users.  This is the 1st tranche, others will follow.


There is also Tipping but I don't want to reveal how that will work out.





 
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 05:19:33 am
Easy now. TwinWinNerD may not have always chosen his words carefully, but take a look at the last few pages and you will see that landomata's explanations just didn't make a lot of sense. "Market cap" needs to mean something definitive, and TwinWinNerD and I were trying to get at what lando thought it meant, and what investors think it means. Sometimes it's a little ugly in here, but lots of money is at stake, not just for the "senior NXT people," but for everyone else.

We raised 1 million NXT and this was transfered to asset issuing account 2 months before AE went live.

If we wanted to scam or harm Nxt it would have been done at that time.

NO ONE is saying it's a scam. Hell, I bought a shit ton myself. I like this product. But I'm still confused about it. Legitimate questions about how the math works out ought to be valid here.

legitimate questions are different from market price manipulation.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: devphp on September 14, 2014, 05:23:06 am
FUD or not, whether shares are available for trading or not, these are all debateable points. But the price of Nxttycoin wasn't organically growing and it was good to cool down that bubble a bit. You can't have just one currency running on top of NXT to be worth 19% of the entire NXT (@0.19 NXT price), that it's priced in. It's clearly a bubble, using any common sense. It's just one company, no matter how good and successful it may be. By the way, we don't know that yet, the app isn't launched. Mind you, this is no FUD, this is a fact. Irrational exuberance should be avoided, it draws unnecessary attention too. Organic growth is much better.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: sparta_cuss on September 14, 2014, 05:27:22 am
Easy now. TwinWinNerD may not have always chosen his words carefully, but take a look at the last few pages and you will see that landomata's explanations just didn't make a lot of sense. "Market cap" needs to mean something definitive, and TwinWinNerD and I were trying to get at what lando thought it meant, and what investors think it means. Sometimes it's a little ugly in here, but lots of money is at stake, not just for the "senior NXT people," but for everyone else.

No, you guys are the ones that "manipulated the market cap". These shares exist. Like 10K sharefund0 exist and 1,800 are sold. Like Coinomat has 3M shares and 2M are held by the Issuer. You decided to hunt down one asset and screw it up.

Thanks again for hurting NXT and the businesses that are working hard to grow it.

Why don't you go back to bitcoin and leave us the F alone?

No "newbie clause," right? No one needs TwinWinNerD to police the investments, you say? Due diligence extends to the forums, don't you think? After all, this is where potential investors come to learn about the assets they might buy. Each potential investor can appraise the asset for him- or herself by, in part, reading these forums and judging the value of questions raised and responses given? So no newbie or experienced investor needs you to police this forum, right?

It seems that it may not have been right for TwinWinNerD to have CMC adjust the market cap number. That does seem like too much. But his (and my) questions about how that market cap were arrived at did raise some issues: landomata made several conflicting claims about the remaining 800 M assets that are relevant to people's investment decisions.

Edit: It just ocurred to me that you feel like you are defending Nxt from outsiders. How strange.
In a decentralized system, who is an insider and who is an outsider?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 05:30:58 am
FUD or not, whether shares are available for trading or not, these are all debateable points. But the price of Nxttycoin wasn't organically growing and it was good to cool down that bubble a bit. You can't have just one currency running on top of NXT to be worth 19% of the entire NXT (@0.19 NXT price), that it's priced in. It's clearly a bubble, using any common sense. It's just one company, no matter how good and successful it may be. By the way, we don't know that yet, the app isn't launched. Mind you, this is no FUD, this is a fact. Irrational exuberance should be avoided, it draws unnecessary attention too. Organic growth is much better.

What do u mean organically growing do you have a precedent for this?

As I don't cuz this has never been done.


The market high for Nxttycoin was 0.4 Nxt on the 1st day of trading (May 13th) we are not even close to that yet.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 05:32:46 am
Easy now. TwinWinNerD may not have always chosen his words carefully, but take a look at the last few pages and you will see that landomata's explanations just didn't make a lot of sense. "Market cap" needs to mean something definitive, and TwinWinNerD and I were trying to get at what lando thought it meant, and what investors think it means. Sometimes it's a little ugly in here, but lots of money is at stake, not just for the "senior NXT people," but for everyone else.

No, you guys are the ones that "manipulated the market cap". These shares exist. Like 10K sharefund0 exist and 1,800 are sold. Like Coinomat has 3M shares and 2M are held by the Issuer. You decided to hunt down one asset and screw it up.

Thanks again for hurting NXT and the businesses that are working hard to grow it.

Why don't you go back to bitcoin and leave us the F alone?

No "newbie clause," right? No one needs TwinWinNerD to police the investments, you say? Due diligence extends to the forums, don't you think? After all, this is where potential investors come to learn about the assets they might buy. Each potential investor can appraise the asset for him- or herself by, in part, reading these forums and judging the value of questions raised and responses given? So no newbie or experienced investor needs you to police this forum, right?

It seems that it may not have been right for TwinWinNerD to have CMC adjust the market cap number. That does seem like too much. But his (and my) questions about how that market cap were arrived at did raise some issues: landomata made several conflicting claims about the remaining 800 M assets that are relevant to people's investment decisions.

Edit: It just ocurred to me that you feel like you are defending Nxt from outsiders. How strange.

If he had concerns he could have just asked or send me a PM like many others, I would have answered him in full detail.

But to pull this stunt is completely unacceptable.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: devphp on September 14, 2014, 05:34:53 am
What do u mean organically growing do you have a precedent for this?

As I don't cuz this has never been done.

I have seen multiple examples of bubbles. I know what a bubble feels like, and I know one when I see it. One company can't be valued at 19% of the underlying currency's market cap. That's just ridiculous, no matter how you slice it. It would be like one company would be valued at 19% of the entire USD market cap, can you imagine that? Do you know examples of such companies?

The market high for Nxttycoin was 0.4 Nxt on the 1st day of trading (May 13th) we are not even close to that yet.

Well, that's total BS, likely due to very limited liquidity.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: sparta_cuss on September 14, 2014, 05:35:38 am
If he had concerns he could have just asked or send me a PM like many others, I would have answered him in full detail.

But to pull this stunt is completely unacceptable.

I agree.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 05:36:48 am
FUD or not, whether shares are available for trading or not, these are all debateable points. But the price of Nxttycoin wasn't organically growing and it was good to cool down that bubble a bit. You can't have just one currency running on top of NXT to be worth 19% of the entire NXT (@0.19 NXT price), that it's priced in. It's clearly a bubble, using any common sense. It's just one company, no matter how good and successful it may be. By the way, we don't know that yet, the app isn't launched. Mind you, this is no FUD, this is a fact. Irrational exuberance should be avoided, it draws unnecessary attention too. Organic growth is much better.

I will agree we are in bubble territory. BUT We are talking free communication apps with new features. This is classic bubble land. I still cant wrap my head around 1B for instagram, much less Snapchat, Wechat, and the rest.
Secure, Multiplatform, Free, and in app NXT payments?
IF THIS WORKS It should without fail be worth 10-15 BILLION. Thats a tech bubble. But if they want it, let them buy it

The AE buys are not all amateur. They are huge tranches, 100, 200k in a minute. Who is doing this? And who are you working for Twinnneeerdd?

Your angle of this "attack" is traded shares and the market cap. If you want to point out problems, I am the first one who wants to listen. But stealing value from your own community is the crime. So maybe I repeat, go back to BTC and let us make our own choices.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: sparta_cuss on September 14, 2014, 05:39:23 am
What do u mean organically growing do you have a precedent for this?

As I don't cuz this has never been done.

I have seen multiple examples of bubbles. I know what a bubble feels like, and I know one when I see it. One company can't be valued at 19% of the underlying currency's market cap. That's just ridiculous, no matter how you slice it. It would be like one company would be valued at 19% of the entire USD market cap, can you imagine that? Do you know examples of such companies?

Don't we agree that Nxt's market cap is low compared to where we think it should be, given its vast functionality and community? Also, the market cap of the currency grows precisely because the underlying components grow. Nxtty's value can and will push Nxt up as it grows. It won't happen in perfect syncopation, but it happens just like this - the components expand the container.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: devphp on September 14, 2014, 05:39:30 am
I will agree we are in bubble territory. BUT We are talking free communication apps with new features. This is classic bubble land. I still cant wrap my head around 1B for instagram, much less Snapchat, Wechat, and the rest.
Secure, Multiplatform, Free, and in app NXT payments?
IF THIS WORKS It should without fail be worth 10-15 BILLION. Thats a tech bubble. But if they want it, let them buy it

So you agree it's a bubble, good.
It could be worth 10-15 bln, would it then be worth 5000% of total NXT market cap? How would acquisition process go? Would the buyer have to buy NXT first and then buy all Nxttycoin? Wouldn't NXT market cap go to 100s of blns then? What would the price of Nxttycoin be then? Clearly not 0.19 NXT.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 05:40:28 am
What do u mean organically growing do you have a precedent for this?

As I don't cuz this has never been done.

I have seen multiple examples of bubbles. I know what a bubble feels like, and I know one when I see it. One company can't be valued at 19% of the underlying currency's market cap. That's just ridiculous, no matter how you slice it. It would be like one company would be valued at 19% of the entire USD market cap, can you imagine that? Do you know examples of such companies?

The market high for Nxttycoin was 0.4 Nxt on the 1st day of trading (May 13th) we are not even close to that yet.

Well, that's total BS, likely due to very limited liquidity.

Did you see the marketcap of Anon's silver asset?

There are many Asset on AE which surpass Nxt marketcap entirely.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: devphp on September 14, 2014, 05:41:07 am
Don't we agree that Nxt's market cap is low compared to where we think it should be, given its vast functionality and community? Also, the market cap of the currency grows precisely because the underlying components grow. Nxtty's value can and will push Nxt up as it grows. It won't happen in perfect syncopation, but it happens just like this - the components expand the container.

What I am trying to say is, marketcaps on companies running on top of NXT can't go above a certain share of NXT total market cap, that's clear to anyone with some senses. What can that share be? I don't know, but 19% seems out of whack to me, even 10% is too high, to my taste.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: devphp on September 14, 2014, 05:42:17 am
Did you see the marketcap of Anon's silver asset?

There are many Asset on AE which surpass Nxt marketcap entirely.

Yes, and they are out of whack too. Many of James's assets are out of whack, particularly. I don't care if you call me FUDster for that, I am saying what I feel is right.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 14, 2014, 05:43:39 am
Are We going to get that IOS-version next week?

I am so looking forward to test it out!


Ps. Coinmarket cap seems to be finally fixed.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 05:44:15 am
I will agree we are in bubble territory. BUT We are talking free communication apps with new features. This is classic bubble land. I still cant wrap my head around 1B for instagram, much less Snapchat, Wechat, and the rest.
Secure, Multiplatform, Free, and in app NXT payments?
IF THIS WORKS It should without fail be worth 10-15 BILLION. Thats a tech bubble. But if they want it, let them buy it

So you agree it's a bubble, good.
It could be worth 10-15 bln, would it then be worth 5000% of total NXT market cap? How would acquisition process go? Would the buyer have to buy NXT first and then buy all Nxttycoin? Wouldn't NXT market cap go to 100s of blns then? What would the price of Nxttycoin be then? Clearly not 0.19 NXT.

Please read previous post for acquisition scenario's.  You must pay Nxt for all NXTTYcoin transactions, you need NXT to buy NXTTYcoin.  Don't you think there is some benefit that will spill over, it is the same thing for all assets traded on Nxt AE.  That is the beauty of Nxt AE.

 
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 05:44:42 am


No "newbie clause," right? No one needs TwinWinNerD to police the investments, you say? Due diligence extends to the forums, don't you think? After all, this is where potential investors come to learn about the assets they might buy. Each potential investor can appraise the asset for him- or herself by, in part, reading these forums and judging the value of questions raised and responses given? So no newbie or experienced investor needs you to police this forum, right?

It seems that it may not have been right for TwinWinNerD to have CMC adjust the market cap number. That does seem like too much. But his (and my) questions about how that market cap were arrived at did raise some issues: landomata made several conflicting claims about the remaining 800 M assets that are relevant to people's investment decisions.

Edit: It just ocurred to me that you feel like you are defending Nxt from outsiders. How strange.
In a decentralized system, who is an insider and who is an outsider?

I appreciate your open mindeness Sparta_cuss, but I'm a bit confused about this post (late, drunk etc)

I think it was very wrong for anyone to "adjust" the market cap
Questions are good. Knowledge and information are key. But those assets are in play. Lando has stated there will be dividends, and promo rewards. Your desire to crash the market cap is destructive to all ends.

I dont know what you mean about defending nxt from outsiders. All money is money. Investors are equal. If you do DD and want invest, there is no in or out.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 05:47:18 am
Did you see the marketcap of Anon's silver asset?

There are many Asset on AE which surpass Nxt marketcap entirely.

Yes, and they are out of whack too. Many of James's assets are out of whack, particularly. I don't care if you call me FUDster for that, I am saying what I feel is right.

Tell me what is the TOTAL market cap of all shares traded in USD combined with all derivatives traded in USD.....I think they would surpass the USD money supply.


Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: devphp on September 14, 2014, 05:47:31 am
Please read previous post for acquisition scenario's.  You must pay Nxt for all NXTTYcoin transactions, you need NXT to buy NXTTYcoin.  Don't you think there is some benefit that will spill over, it is the same thing for all assets traded on Nxt AE.  That is the beauty of Nxt AE.

If you need to buy NXT to buy Nxttycoin, and if that is valid for any buyer, no matter how large a share the buyer would like to acquire, then, if Nxtty becomes valued at billions, NXT would at least be valued at dozens of billions if not hundreds. In that case, the price of Nxttycoin priced in NXT would still need to be significantly less than 19% of the price of NXT itself. See my point?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: devphp on September 14, 2014, 05:50:42 am
Tell me what is the TOTAL market cap of all shares traded in USD combined with all derivatives traded in USD.....I think they would surpass the USD money supply.

They may well surpass the USD money supply, and that's clearly a bubble. The difference is, US Federal Reserve can print as much money as they want to pump into the stock market to keep it afloat indefinitely. But in NXT you can't do that, you only have 1 bln. NXT to go around at all time. Which means, music can't play forever in NXT and disbalances in valuations will naturally resolve themselves. If those disbalances become too large, many people can get hurt, and that draws unnecessary attention. Although they say there is no bad advertising, but in this case it may be bad.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 05:53:05 am
What do u mean organically growing do you have a precedent for this?

As I don't cuz this has never been done.

I have seen multiple examples of bubbles. I know what a bubble feels like, and I know one when I see it. One company can't be valued at 19% of the underlying currency's market cap. That's just ridiculous, no matter how you slice it. It would be like one company would be valued at 19% of the entire USD market cap, can you imagine that? Do you know examples of such companies?

Don't we agree that Nxt's market cap is low compared to where we think it should be, given its vast functionality and community? Also, the market cap of the currency grows precisely because the underlying components grow. Nxtty's value can and will push Nxt up as it grows. It won't happen in perfect syncopation, but it happens just like this - the components expand the container.

see maybe this is it..

I dont think NXT has much value right now. Compared to things like NXTTY.

NXT wont do shit anything for more than 100-200 people.
NXTTY could EASILY be used by 10k people within a matter of weeks. 
Look at the DOW JONES, how many "assets" are listed on it? Its value is nowhere near Apple, Exxon, etc. Why should the exchange be worth more than the actual?

NXT is a token. NXT is a tool. NXT is a mechanism of growth. NXT is NOT BTC.
NXT has no reason to be worth more than a penny or two. I'm sorry to say this. I am 100% NXT and not going anywhere, but it has no business limiting the price of the assets traded within it.

Only sticks in the mud think this way. Forget BTC, go back to Fiat .

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 05:55:26 am
Please read previous post for acquisition scenario's.  You must pay Nxt for all NXTTYcoin transactions, you need NXT to buy NXTTYcoin.  Don't you think there is some benefit that will spill over, it is the same thing for all assets traded on Nxt AE.  That is the beauty of Nxt AE.

If you need to buy NXT to buy Nxttycoin, and if that is valid for any buyer, no matter how large a share the buyer would like to acquire, then, if Nxtty becomes valued at billions, NXT would at least be valued at dozens of billions if not hundreds. In that case, the price of Nxttycoin priced in NXT would still need to be significantly less than 19% of the price of NXT itself. See my point?

NO reason the exchange token has to supersede the actual medium.

Like playing poker and somehow the red chips ACTUALLY have to be worth $100 to make them worth $100.

Crazy talk. #NewEconomy
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: sparta_cuss on September 14, 2014, 05:56:11 am
Please read previous post for acquisition scenario's.  You must pay Nxt for all NXTTYcoin transactions, you need NXT to buy NXTTYcoin.  Don't you think there is some benefit that will spill over, it is the same thing for all assets traded on Nxt AE.  That is the beauty of Nxt AE.

If you need to buy NXT to buy Nxttycoin, and if that is valid for any buyer, no matter how large a share the buyer would like to acquire, then, if Nxtty becomes valued at billions, NXT would at least be valued at dozens of billions if not hundreds. In that case, the price of Nxttycoin priced in NXT would still need to be significantly less than 19% of the price of NXT itself. See my point?

I don't see a problem for Nxt itself, only for all other assets priced in NXT. If the market cap of NXT has to expand to account for the higher valuation of Nxtty (in dollar or CNY or whatever terms) then it will. NXT is a currency, and its per-token value and market cap will expand and contract according to the value of the underlying assets priced in NXT. The problem, as I say, is for other assets  that will have to be repriced as NXT increases in value. But I don't see why this can't happen, too.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jl777 on September 14, 2014, 05:56:45 am
Don't we agree that Nxt's market cap is low compared to where we think it should be, given its vast functionality and community? Also, the market cap of the currency grows precisely because the underlying components grow. Nxtty's value can and will push Nxt up as it grows. It won't happen in perfect syncopation, but it happens just like this - the components expand the container.

What I am trying to say is, marketcaps on companies running on top of NXT can't go above a certain share of NXT total market cap, that's clear to anyone with some senses. What can that share be? I don't know, but 19% seems out of whack to me, even 10% is too high, to my taste.
there is little relationship between what an asset's totalmarket cap is and the total amount of NXT
For the proof of this, let us assume an asset backed by BTC, say something like mgwBTC.
If your theory is right, all we have to do is deposit $100 million worth of BTC and it will magically change the marketcap of BTC so that it will be less than the NXT marketcap?

Of course not.

The reason for this misconception is the velocity of NXT is not being taken into account. The velocity of money is the spending of it from one person to the next to the next. The 1 billion NXT is able to purchase a lot more than 1 billion NXT worth of things given enough time

James

P.S. you qualify it as a company, ok, so let us say google decides to list on AE and change to charge everybody in NXT. Will their 400 billion USD marketcap shrink to $40 mil or will NXT all of a sudden be worth 1 trillion USD? Of course not. The value of what the assets represent are therefore independent from the 1 billion NXT
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jl777 on September 14, 2014, 05:58:25 am
Please read previous post for acquisition scenario's.  You must pay Nxt for all NXTTYcoin transactions, you need NXT to buy NXTTYcoin.  Don't you think there is some benefit that will spill over, it is the same thing for all assets traded on Nxt AE.  That is the beauty of Nxt AE.

If you need to buy NXT to buy Nxttycoin, and if that is valid for any buyer, no matter how large a share the buyer would like to acquire, then, if Nxtty becomes valued at billions, NXT would at least be valued at dozens of billions if not hundreds. In that case, the price of Nxttycoin priced in NXT would still need to be significantly less than 19% of the price of NXT itself. See my point?
no
you are not making any sense
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 05:58:38 am


I don't see a problem for Nxt itself, only for all other assets priced in NXT. If the market cap of NXT has to expand to account for the higher valuation of Nxtty (in dollar or CNY or whatever terms) then it will. NXT is a currency, and its per-token value and market cap will expand and contract according to the value of the underlying assets priced in NXT. The problem, as I say, is for other assets  that will have to be repriced as NXT increases in value. But I don't see why this can't happen, too.

NXT is a token. Not a Fiat.
NXT allows assets to be created. NXT allows wealth to be created.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: devphp on September 14, 2014, 06:01:52 am
If you need to buy NXT to buy Nxttycoin, and if that is valid for any buyer, no matter how large a share the buyer would like to acquire, then, if Nxtty becomes valued at billions, NXT would at least be valued at dozens of billions if not hundreds. In that case, the price of Nxttycoin priced in NXT would still need to be significantly less than 19% of the price of NXT itself. See my point?
no
you are not making any sense

Well, sorry then, I do make perfect sense to myself.

NXT allows assets to be created. NXT allows wealth to be created.

Define wealth creation please. It's all just perception at this point and speculative bubbles, anticipation of future success.

EDIT: anyway, I think I made my point, whether it's clear or not. I don't see a reason to debate it further.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 06:03:05 am
Don't we agree that Nxt's market cap is low compared to where we think it should be, given its vast functionality and community? Also, the market cap of the currency grows precisely because the underlying components grow. Nxtty's value can and will push Nxt up as it grows. It won't happen in perfect syncopation, but it happens just like this - the components expand the container.

What I am trying to say is, marketcaps on companies running on top of NXT can't go above a certain share of NXT total market cap, that's clear to anyone with some senses. What can that share be? I don't know, but 19% seems out of whack to me, even 10% is too high, to my taste.
there is little relationship between what an asset's totalmarket cap is and the total amount of NXT
For the proof of this, let us assume an asset backed by BTC, say something like mgwBTC.
If your theory is right, all we have to do is deposit $100 million worth of BTC and it will magically change the marketcap of BTC so that it will be less than the NXT marketcap?

Of course not.

The reason for this misconception is the velocity of NXT is not being taken into account. The velocity of money is the spending of it from one person to the next to the next. The 1 billion NXT is able to purchase a lot more than 1 billion NXT worth of things given enough time

James

P.S. you qualify it as a company, ok, so let us say google decides to list on AE and change to charge everybody in NXT. Will their 400 billion USD marketcap shrink to $40 mil or will NXT all of a sudden be worth 1 trillion USD? Of course not. The value of what the assets represent are therefore independent from the 1 billion NXT

This velocity is what makes Amazon worth so much with zero "profit". It's what makes a company with no revenue like instagram worth a billion, and SnapChat worth 10B.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jl777 on September 14, 2014, 06:03:39 am
Please read previous post for acquisition scenario's.  You must pay Nxt for all NXTTYcoin transactions, you need NXT to buy NXTTYcoin.  Don't you think there is some benefit that will spill over, it is the same thing for all assets traded on Nxt AE.  That is the beauty of Nxt AE.

If you need to buy NXT to buy Nxttycoin, and if that is valid for any buyer, no matter how large a share the buyer would like to acquire, then, if Nxtty becomes valued at billions, NXT would at least be valued at dozens of billions if not hundreds. In that case, the price of Nxttycoin priced in NXT would still need to be significantly less than 19% of the price of NXT itself. See my point?

I don't see a problem for Nxt itself, only for all other assets priced in NXT. If the market cap of NXT has to expand to account for the higher valuation of Nxtty (in dollar or CNY or whatever terms) then it will. NXT is a currency, and its per-token value and market cap will expand and contract according to the value of the underlying assets priced in NXT. The problem, as I say, is for other assets  that will have to be repriced as NXT increases in value. But I don't see why this can't happen, too.
The relationship of the value of NXT vs total value of assets is related to the velocity of NXT and the average trading volume for the assets. It doesnt matter the total value of the assets, what matters is the average trading volume and the average time for each trade the NXT is out of circulation.

When the free floating NXT is not enough to supply the needs for all the pending buy orders, then and only then will we see some increase in value of NXT due to the total value of assets

James
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 06:03:45 am

Define wealth creation please. It's all just perception at this point and speculative bubbles, anticipation of future success.

Wealth creation is when you create utility for society which was not there before.

Money printing is not wealth creation....but Facebook is.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 06:05:46 am
If you need to buy NXT to buy Nxttycoin, and if that is valid for any buyer, no matter how large a share the buyer would like to acquire, then, if Nxtty becomes valued at billions, NXT would at least be valued at dozens of billions if not hundreds. In that case, the price of Nxttycoin priced in NXT would still need to be significantly less than 19% of the price of NXT itself. See my point?
no
you are not making any sense

Wealth creation is the leveraging of intellectual and financial capital, where the sum of the combination of efforts can prove to be greater than the parts.



Well, sorry then, I do make perfect sense to myself.

NXT allows assets to be created. NXT allows wealth to be created.

Define wealth creation please. It's all just perception at this point and speculative bubbles, anticipation of future success.

EDIT: anyway, I think I made my point, whether it's clear or not. I don't see a reason to debate it further.

Wealth creation is the leveraging of intellectual and financial capital, where the sum of the combination of efforts can prove to be greater than the parts.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jl777 on September 14, 2014, 06:06:19 am
If you need to buy NXT to buy Nxttycoin, and if that is valid for any buyer, no matter how large a share the buyer would like to acquire, then, if Nxtty becomes valued at billions, NXT would at least be valued at dozens of billions if not hundreds. In that case, the price of Nxttycoin priced in NXT would still need to be significantly less than 19% of the price of NXT itself. See my point?
no
you are not making any sense

Well, sorry then, I do make perfect sense to myself.

NXT allows assets to be created. NXT allows wealth to be created.

Define wealth creation please. It's all just perception at this point and speculative bubbles, anticipation of future success.

EDIT: anyway, I think I made my point, whether it's clear or not. I don't see a reason to debate it further.
A few months ago, I predicted there will be more than 1 billion NXT worth of assets sometime this year or next. This is obvious from the level of activity, I dont think there is any debate for this.

Now imagine a single asset that is containing all these assets.
See, there is nothing to stop a single asset from exceeding 1 billion NXT, nothing at all
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 14, 2014, 06:06:40 am
One way or another. If Nxtty will succeed. It will surpass NXT.

Nobody should feel threatened about this. Because this is the purpose of NXT.

Even a coin launched by the upcoming Monetary System can surpass NXT if it will succeed.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: sparta_cuss on September 14, 2014, 06:07:13 am
Please read previous post for acquisition scenario's.  You must pay Nxt for all NXTTYcoin transactions, you need NXT to buy NXTTYcoin.  Don't you think there is some benefit that will spill over, it is the same thing for all assets traded on Nxt AE.  That is the beauty of Nxt AE.

If you need to buy NXT to buy Nxttycoin, and if that is valid for any buyer, no matter how large a share the buyer would like to acquire, then, if Nxtty becomes valued at billions, NXT would at least be valued at dozens of billions if not hundreds. In that case, the price of Nxttycoin priced in NXT would still need to be significantly less than 19% of the price of NXT itself. See my point?

I don't see a problem for Nxt itself, only for all other assets priced in NXT. If the market cap of NXT has to expand to account for the higher valuation of Nxtty (in dollar or CNY or whatever terms) then it will. NXT is a currency, and its per-token value and market cap will expand and contract according to the value of the underlying assets priced in NXT. The problem, as I say, is for other assets  that will have to be repriced as NXT increases in value. But I don't see why this can't happen, too.
The relationship of the value of NXT vs total value of assets is related to the velocity of NXT and the average trading volume for the assets. It doesnt matter the total value of the assets, what matters is the average trading volume and the average time for each trade the NXT is out of circulation.

When the free floating NXT is not enough to supply the needs for all the pending buy orders, then and only then will we see some increase in value of NXT due to the total value of assets

James

So the driver of the value of NXT is liquidity at the individual market/asset level?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: lovely89 on September 14, 2014, 06:07:56 am
Just a fair warning.

The price currently is inflated by a low supply. Kind of a auroracoin situation.

By no means is this asset a scam, but the price is inflated by a lower supply than most people realize. Only 20% are tradeable, most likely if any of those are introduced into the market the price will be significantly lower than it is now PER NXTTY.

(sorry if everyone already knew this! then I will piss off fast!)

This was recently updated on coinmarketcap. Also, those coins will be distributed through 'interest' every month and to the first 100k users of nxtty. So, unlike auroracoin, there is a larger percent in circulation, coinmarketcap has 'available supply' as an option now and although the price may drop slightly due to 'inflation', each user's holdings will increase, therefore countering distributing the 'inflation'.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 06:09:16 am
If you need to buy NXT to buy Nxttycoin, and if that is valid for any buyer, no matter how large a share the buyer would like to acquire, then, if Nxtty becomes valued at billions, NXT would at least be valued at dozens of billions if not hundreds. In that case, the price of Nxttycoin priced in NXT would still need to be significantly less than 19% of the price of NXT itself. See my point?
no
you are not making any sense



Well, sorry then, I do make perfect sense to myself.

NXT allows assets to be created. NXT allows wealth to be created.

Define wealth creation please. It's all just perception at this point and speculative bubbles, anticipation of future success.

EDIT: anyway, I think I made my point, whether it's clear or not. I don't see a reason to debate it further.

PS if you havent noticed that your troll buddies have quit, maybe its time to reappraise your thoughts and think about NXTventure, Nxtty, and SnotKittens. We're on your side, and glady accepting your contributions of capital expenditure.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 06:10:34 am
Please read previous post for acquisition scenario's.  You must pay Nxt for all NXTTYcoin transactions, you need NXT to buy NXTTYcoin.  Don't you think there is some benefit that will spill over, it is the same thing for all assets traded on Nxt AE.  That is the beauty of Nxt AE.

If you need to buy NXT to buy Nxttycoin, and if that is valid for any buyer, no matter how large a share the buyer would like to acquire, then, if Nxtty becomes valued at billions, NXT would at least be valued at dozens of billions if not hundreds. In that case, the price of Nxttycoin priced in NXT would still need to be significantly less than 19% of the price of NXT itself. See my point?

I don't see a problem for Nxt itself, only for all other assets priced in NXT. If the market cap of NXT has to expand to account for the higher valuation of Nxtty (in dollar or CNY or whatever terms) then it will. NXT is a currency, and its per-token value and market cap will expand and contract according to the value of the underlying assets priced in NXT. The problem, as I say, is for other assets  that will have to be repriced as NXT increases in value. But I don't see why this can't happen, too.
The relationship of the value of NXT vs total value of assets is related to the velocity of NXT and the average trading volume for the assets. It doesnt matter the total value of the assets, what matters is the average trading volume and the average time for each trade the NXT is out of circulation.

When the free floating NXT is not enough to supply the needs for all the pending buy orders, then and only then will we see some increase in value of NXT due to the total value of assets

James

So the driver of the value of NXT is liquidity at the individual market/asset level?

NXT value is unrelated to this.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 06:12:32 am
Please read previous post for acquisition scenario's.  You must pay Nxt for all NXTTYcoin transactions, you need NXT to buy NXTTYcoin.  Don't you think there is some benefit that will spill over, it is the same thing for all assets traded on Nxt AE.  That is the beauty of Nxt AE.

If you need to buy NXT to buy Nxttycoin, and if that is valid for any buyer, no matter how large a share the buyer would like to acquire, then, if Nxtty becomes valued at billions, NXT would at least be valued at dozens of billions if not hundreds. In that case, the price of Nxttycoin priced in NXT would still need to be significantly less than 19% of the price of NXT itself. See my point?

I don't see a problem for Nxt itself, only for all other assets priced in NXT. If the market cap of NXT has to expand to account for the higher valuation of Nxtty (in dollar or CNY or whatever terms) then it will. NXT is a currency, and its per-token value and market cap will expand and contract according to the value of the underlying assets priced in NXT. The problem, as I say, is for other assets  that will have to be repriced as NXT increases in value. But I don't see why this can't happen, too.
The relationship of the value of NXT vs total value of assets is related to the velocity of NXT and the average trading volume for the assets. It doesnt matter the total value of the assets, what matters is the average trading volume and the average time for each trade the NXT is out of circulation.

When the free floating NXT is not enough to supply the needs for all the pending buy orders, then and only then will we see some increase in value of NXT due to the total value of assets

James

So the driver of the value of NXT is liquidity at the individual market/asset level?

NXT value is unrelated to this.

NXT value is based on its own supply and demand, not the Assets within.

Yes I did just quote myself.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 06:14:18 am


NXT value is based on its own supply and demand, not the Assets within.

Yes I did just quote myself.

Yes i see it now, the price of Apple or Berkshire can't be related to the USD Forex markets they are different but linked as you can't buy either without USD.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: sparta_cuss on September 14, 2014, 06:18:11 am


NXT value is based on its own supply and demand, not the Assets within.

Yes I did just quote myself.

Yes i see it now, the price of Apple or Berkshire can't be related to the USD Forex markets they are different but linked as you can't buy either without USD.

So we can think of NXT as a pass-through currency? It provides access to, but does not contain, assets we want.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 06:18:22 am


NXT value is based on its own supply and demand, not the Assets within.

Yes I did just quote myself.

Yes i see it now, the price of Apple or Berkshire can't be related to the USD Forex markets they are different but linked as you can't buy either without USD.

Right if Apple created something even more in demand than the iPhone, the price would go up, no matter the value of USD or the Feds machinations.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: devphp on September 14, 2014, 06:19:37 am
jefdiesel,

well, there you go, didn't take a long time to call me a troll, did it? Like I said above, I don't care. I am interested that NXT has a long-term success, and I will always say what I feel is right to achieve that.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 06:21:17 am


NXT value is based on its own supply and demand, not the Assets within.

Yes I did just quote myself.

Yes i see it now, the price of Apple or Berkshire can't be related to the USD Forex markets they are different but linked as you can't buy either without USD.

So we can think of NXT as a pass-through currency? It provides access to, but does not contain, assets we want.

YES. NXT has very little relation to the assets within.

To paraphrase James, Imagine if Google wanted to buy Nxtty for 10Billion. For NO reason would this require NXT to rise to $10 each.

The Nxtty sale could happen, and google could pay 1NXT to forge the block and own all the company.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 06:23:14 am
jefdiesel,

well, there you go, didn't take a long time to call me a troll, did it? Like I said above, I don't care. I am interested that NXT has a long-term success, and I will always say what I feel is right to achieve that.

Wow, if at the end of all this really useful and head changing information all you can take is a troll comment, you are missing more than the point.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 06:23:29 am
jefdiesel,

well, there you go, didn't take a long time to call me a troll, did it? Like I said above, I don't care. I am interested that NXT has a long-term success, and I will always say what I feel is right to achieve that.

Assets on top of Nxt is a very very strong reason Nxt will be relevant over the long term.  Without Nxt those asset cease to exist.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: stone on September 14, 2014, 06:39:12 am
Whether to consider nxtty also added to the supernetwork?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 06:43:02 am
Gliss has messaged me and we are in discussion now.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jl777 on September 14, 2014, 06:45:12 am
Gliss has messaged me and we are in discussion now.
If there are 250 mil reserved for giveaway and X amount for interest, then it seems reasonable for that inventory to be considered out of circulation
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 06:48:39 am
Gliss has messaged me and we are in discussion now.
If there are 250 mil reserved for giveaway and X amount for interest, then it seems reasonable for that inventory to be considered out of circulation

Fair, as long as these shares are added to the market cap on the dates they are distributed. Seems a painful extra step for all parties. Every month 5% of 200M will be added.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 06:59:31 am
Gliss has messaged me and we are in discussion now.
If there are 250 mil reserved for giveaway and X amount for interest, then it seems reasonable for that inventory to be considered out of circulation

Well I wouldn't consider it a give away we are planning to link the capital market to the in app market.  So for example the user will be able to exchange NXTTYcoin for products.  They will be able to gain NXTTYcoin thru in transfers, buying Tip packages (aim towards Enterprise customers), trading on an exchange or buying services from the NXTTYstore.

So the coin will be in circulation just not inside the capital market.

For example when a user tip another the asset is transfer from Tip reserve fund to the users account.  This user can then do whatever he wants with his NXTTYcoin.


The NXTTYconomy will be rolled out in stages.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 07:05:42 am
Gliss has messaged me and we are in discussion now.
If there are 250 mil reserved for giveaway and X amount for interest, then it seems reasonable for that inventory to be considered out of circulation

Fair, as long as these shares are added to the market cap on the dates they are distributed. Seems a painful extra step for all parties. Every month 5% of 200M will be added.

If we have 100,000 users in 1st hour 250 million will be transfered in 1st hour.  It will just sit in users account but it will be distributed till more services are rolled out over the coming months.

Tipping is already working we have been heavily testing it....there is also a few services which we want to keep hidden for now.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: mikesbmw on September 14, 2014, 07:21:11 am



NXT value is based on its own supply and demand, not the Assets within.

Yes I did just quote myself.

Yes i see it now, the price of Apple or Berkshire can't be related to the USD Forex markets they are different but linked as you can't buy either without USD.

So we can think of NXT as a pass-through currency? It provides access to, but does not contain, assets we want.

YES. NXT has very little relation to the assets within.

To paraphrase James, Imagine if Google wanted to buy Nxtty for 10Billion. For NO reason would this require NXT to rise to $10 each.

The Nxtty sale could happen, and google could pay 1NXT to forge the block and own all the company.
I don't get this... :-(

Say they want to buy for $10bn.
That values every nxttycoin at $10

How would a party gain access to those assets without buying NXT to support the $10bn purchase?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 14, 2014, 07:26:57 am



NXT value is based on its own supply and demand, not the Assets within.

Yes I did just quote myself.

Yes i see it now, the price of Apple or Berkshire can't be related to the USD Forex markets they are different but linked as you can't buy either without USD.

So we can think of NXT as a pass-through currency? It provides access to, but does not contain, assets we want.

YES. NXT has very little relation to the assets within.

To paraphrase James, Imagine if Google wanted to buy Nxtty for 10Billion. For NO reason would this require NXT to rise to $10 each.

The Nxtty sale could happen, and google could pay 1NXT to forge the block and own all the company.
I don't get this... :-(

Say they want to buy for $10bn.
That values every nxttycoin at $10

How would a party gain access to those assets without buying NXT to support the $10bn purchase?

Well basically this can be done in many ways. One way in cases like this would be to convert tokens to lets say google stocks.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 07:27:53 am



NXT value is based on its own supply and demand, not the Assets within.

Yes I did just quote myself.

Yes i see it now, the price of Apple or Berkshire can't be related to the USD Forex markets they are different but linked as you can't buy either without USD.

So we can think of NXT as a pass-through currency? It provides access to, but does not contain, assets we want.

YES. NXT has very little relation to the assets within.

To paraphrase James, Imagine if Google wanted to buy Nxtty for 10Billion. For NO reason would this require NXT to rise to $10 each.

The Nxtty sale could happen, and google could pay 1NXT to forge the block and own all the company.
I don't get this... :-(

Say they want to buy for $10bn.
That values every nxttycoin at $10

How would a party gain access to those assets without buying NXT to support the $10bn purchase?

There is NXTTY/BTC & NXTTY/CNY markets, but to move the asset you still need to pay NXT transaction fees.

Or the transaction can also done in NXT AE. 


My mind is more focused on survival at the moment let us start generating revenues then we can look at all kinds of possibilities.





Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 14, 2014, 07:30:36 am
It's shocking how people still don't understand what NXT is. And we are supposed to tell what NXT is to the rest of the world?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: valarmg on September 14, 2014, 07:36:47 am
Those who think that the asset can't be worth more than the value of Nxt, can you look at Mastercoin and Maidsafecoin. Maidsafecoin is on top of Mastercoin and has had 3times the market cap of Mastercoin for a long time now without the crypto-world imploding.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Jimmy2011 on September 14, 2014, 07:43:39 am

Boys and girls, investors and Nxtty users: I just want to remind you when you are valuating and calculating something related to Nxttycoin. This is a cross quotation, which shows that landomata won't pay 5% interest for those users who get 2500 shares, that is no interest payment for that reserved 250 million Nxttycoin for the first 100000 users. So it seems that the users can't use those 2500 Nxttycoin right after he gets them. Maybe Nxtty will release in a year, or those 2500 nxttycoin will be activated in a year, or some other cases.

Our Facebook post:

The Initial Nxttycoin (Share) Distribution:

25% of Nxtty will be distributed for free to 100,000 users.

250,000,000 nxttycoin / 100,000 users = 2,500 nxttycoin per. user.

You can check the value of nxttycoin below:
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/nxttycoin/

Will this 25% shares get 5% bonus every month?

If yes, you will have only 100% - (~15% + 25%) * C  shares a year later.  We can take C = 1.5 for example, so you may have about 40% or less shares.

Look forward to your comments.

No.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: LocoMB on September 14, 2014, 07:52:02 am
TwinWinnerD was raising legitimate and reasonable points in a calm and reasonable manner.
Answering with hysterical accusations of ulterior motives such as FUD and infiltration is unprofessional, immature and unfair.

So then when jl777 calmly and cautiously supports that same view, oops, it is all just so reasonable. Looks hypocritical to me.
We are in economical terra incognita here, and these were legitimate questions regarding a technicality that no one can answer.

There is no way even of comparing nxtty with WhatsApp or SnapChat or Instagram because these are Wall Street controlled fiat tentacles.
SO they want to pay $20Bn for WhatsApp? They just print it. IE they borrow it. And their bean counters will have to keep tabs on how the debt percolates through the system. 

How in hell does anyone figure a Wall Street bean counter to be able to integrate an entity as nxtty in their spreadsheets?
How would the CIO of a major Wall Street entity interface nxtty with the NSA backdoor to accommodate his masters there?
What about the IRS? Are they going to send their SWAT teams to Mongolia to fingerprint each and every last nxtty holder that receives their proceeds?

For starters when comparing with WhatsApp, please have a look at the sleazy and shady pedigree of WhatsApp.

Disclaimer: I hold a sizeable chunk of nxtty and I want to see nxtty succeed BIG TIME, so please refrain from accusing me of FUD, envy and other stuff.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 08:02:28 am
There is no way even of comparing nxtty with WhatsApp or SnapChat or Instagram because these are Wall Street controlled fiat tentacles.
SO they want to pay $20Bn for WhatsApp? They just print it. IE they borrow it. And their bean counters will have to keep tabs on how the debt percolates through the system. 


My thinking is that soon all such messengers and applications will have crypto's linked into them one way or another.

Plus the security trend will continue for quite some time.

If TwinWinnerD really had legitimate concerns he could have easily messaged me or posted his questions.

Now how do you think the person investing will feel when he thinks the supply is 200 million instead of 1 Billion.  Suppose he thinks he holds a larger share of the pie from what is mentioned on CMC. 

This is cutting edge stuff and there are pros & cons involved from both view points.






Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jl777 on September 14, 2014, 08:27:51 am



NXT value is based on its own supply and demand, not the Assets within.

Yes I did just quote myself.

Yes i see it now, the price of Apple or Berkshire can't be related to the USD Forex markets they are different but linked as you can't buy either without USD.

So we can think of NXT as a pass-through currency? It provides access to, but does not contain, assets we want.

YES. NXT has very little relation to the assets within.

To paraphrase James, Imagine if Google wanted to buy Nxtty for 10Billion. For NO reason would this require NXT to rise to $10 each.

The Nxtty sale could happen, and google could pay 1NXT to forge the block and own all the company.
I don't get this... :-(

Say they want to buy for $10bn.
That values every nxttycoin at $10

How would a party gain access to those assets without buying NXT to support the $10bn purchase?
for a single tx, then of course there are issues, but for this size tx fiat or BTC would be used
this would not change the value of NXT or the purchase, other than whatever supply/demand issues this creates
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: LocoMB on September 14, 2014, 08:35:02 am

Now how do you think the person investing will feel when he thinks the supply is 200 million instead of 1 Billion.  Suppose he thinks he holds a larger share of the pie from what is mentioned on CMC. 

This is cutting edge stuff and there are pros & cons involved from both view points.

Good Point! My initial guess would be that potential investors should not base their decisions on one glance onto cmc, but do their due diligence by looking at what Nxtty is and how it is structured.

Maybe it is in that respect the same as with orthodox entities- like when there are stocks reserved for certain people that are not available, but still included in the market cap?

 
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Peter2516 on September 14, 2014, 08:48:11 am

Well I wouldn't consider it a give away we are planning to link the capital market to the in app market.  So for example the user will be able to exchange NXTTYcoin for products.  They will be able to gain NXTTYcoin thru in transfers, buying Tip packages (aim towards Enterprise customers), trading on an exchange or buying services from the NXTTYstore.

So the coin will be in circulation just not inside the capital market.

For example when a user tip another the asset is transfer from Tip reserve fund to the users account.  This user can then do whatever he wants with his NXTTYcoin.

The NXTTYconomy will be rolled out in stages.

Hmm, I wonder what  the legal and tax implications are of this. I hope you have that in order?
If 'tokens' get used as money, the men in suits will treat it as money...
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 08:57:11 am

Well I wouldn't consider it a give away we are planning to link the capital market to the in app market.  So for example the user will be able to exchange NXTTYcoin for products.  They will be able to gain NXTTYcoin thru in transfers, buying Tip packages (aim towards Enterprise customers), trading on an exchange or buying services from the NXTTYstore.

So the coin will be in circulation just not inside the capital market.

For example when a user tip another the asset is transfer from Tip reserve fund to the users account.  This user can then do whatever he wants with his NXTTYcoin.

The NXTTYconomy will be rolled out in stages.

Hmm, I wonder what  the legal and tax implications are of this. I hope you have that in order?
If 'tokens' get used as money, the men in suits will treat it as money...

Fiat money will only be used to purchase Emoji's...this we had to keep old school.  We need to start generating quick revenue and to be honest the testers love the emoticons.

Fiat money will not be involved in NXTTYconomy but you will be able to exchange NXTTYcoin for services & products....I cannot explain the mechanism yet but it's a pretty old and tested method. 

Gotta keep things simple.

Yeah you will also be able to exchange for BTC but that will be a later update.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 14, 2014, 09:08:12 am
Landomata,

Is it a good idea to make a statement that you can share at Twitter about what happened today?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on September 14, 2014, 09:41:31 am
Landomata,

Is it a good idea to make a statement that you can share at Twitter about what happened today?

In my opinion, not really sure, most tweeter followers don<t give a F*ck about cryptomarketcap. Nothing change reaally relate to Nxtty cryptomessenger, so no point to tweet about this.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 09:51:43 am
Landomata,

Is it a good idea to make a statement that you can share at Twitter about what happened today?

In my opinion, not really sure, most tweeter followers don<t give a F*ck about cryptomarketcap. Nothing change reaally relate to Nxtty cryptomessenger, so no point to tweet about this.

I was thinking the same thing.

I will have something better to tweet soon.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: durerus on September 14, 2014, 10:09:46 am
Will an AuroraCoin-effect occur due to interest of 5% per month and 250M to 1st 100k users?

IMO not because of the interest, since those who get big interest payments are early buyers of big stake who don't want to destroy the price. But maybe because of the 2.5k bonus to first 100k users?

Right now 2.5k are worth about 15 dollars. Will this be enough for people to bother with cashing out? Cashing out means to open up an account at bter to trade Nxtty for BTC and to register another account at an exchange where you can trade BTC for Fiat. There you have to verify your identity and bank account etc. Nobody who has enough money to buy a smartphone will do all that work for 15 bucks.

But what you could do as a business model: Get out on the physical marketplace of your city and offer everybody who is willing to download a certain messenger app to his device 5 bucks in cash (if he sends you the 2.5k nxtty ;) )
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 10:19:07 am

But what you could do as a business model: Get out on the physical marketplace of your city and offer everybody who is willing to download a certain messenger app to his device 5 bucks in cash (if he sends you the 2.5k nxtty ;) )

LocalNxttycoin  ;D 

I have been thinking of using Account Control to safeguard the users stake almost like a little trust fund for them. 

I mean if you lock an account for a time period isn't those coins off the market and no longer in circulation?

Seems this is what we are being attacked for but it will become a major feature shortly.



Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: durerus on September 14, 2014, 10:40:33 am
I have been thinking of using Account Control to safeguard the users stake almost like a little trust fund for them. 

I mean if you lock an account for a time period isn't those coins off the market and no longer in circulation?

Seems this is what we are being attacked for but it will become a major feature shortly.

IMO that's a good idea to minimize the Aurora-airdrop-effect through LocalNxttyCoin-entrepreneurs ;) . I mean you give 14 bucks value away for free so you can define the rules. But the locked accounts should somehow still be able to purchase all this nice little stuff in the app. Maybe the income of that could be distributed among shareholders as dividend in addition to the 5% per month? That'd be cool and bullish news now in the price drop ;)

Don't worry about the definition of market cap. Everybody who buys Nxtty should know that you get 5% interest for a while and that first 100k users get 2.5k. That money has to come from somewhere.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: astateofmind on September 14, 2014, 10:45:38 am
What is the reason to tip in NXTTY and not in NXT?
I could see selling NXTTY as shares of NXTTY but I cannot see why you wouldn't want the users of the app to tip in NXT.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bitcoinpaul on September 14, 2014, 10:56:08 am
What is the reason to tip in NXTTY and not in NXT?
I could see selling NXTTY as shares of NXTTY but I cannot see why you wouldn't want the users of the app to tip in NXT.

Well, tell me how u would make lots of money by issuing company shares:

- with an asset named "NMAC"
or
- an asset named "NxttyCoin" of which u can then hype the shit out because it has the name "coin" in it?

Mhhhh.... And now u have to sell the coin idea. "Oh yeah, it's for tipping and other stuff".

;)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 10:57:38 am
I have been thinking of using Account Control to safeguard the users stake almost like a little trust fund for them. 

I mean if you lock an account for a time period isn't those coins off the market and no longer in circulation?

Seems this is what we are being attacked for but it will become a major feature shortly.

IMO that's a good idea to minimize the Aurora-airdrop-effect through LocalNxttyCoin-entrepreneurs ;) . I mean you give 14 bucks value away for free so you can define the rules. But the locked accounts should somehow still be able to purchase all this nice little stuff in the app. Maybe the income of that could be distributed among shareholders as dividend in addition to the 5% per month? That'd be cool and bullish news now in the price drop ;)


I'm sure we can give users the option to lock or even only lock for a certain time will have to see once Account controls starts testing.

Do keep in mind that Tips are not depended on users account as they are being sent from Tip reserve fund.  The more tips the more network affect its also a great way for micro entrepreneurs to monetize their content.

If you post great content then you will gain more tips.


We are not even gonna mention how our business model will be geared towards enterprise.  Once our userbase crosses a certain threshold we can easily approach Advertisers. 

To be honest my aim is to build a viable DAC which is profitable and can sustain itself.


Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 10:59:31 am
What is the reason to tip in NXTTY and not in NXT?
I could see selling NXTTY as shares of NXTTY but I cannot see why you wouldn't want the users of the app to tip in NXT.

Where do we get the Nxt from to Tip?  we would need to buy it in the open market.

It would be cool but it would be difficult to implement.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 11:00:49 am

Mhhhh.... And now u have to sell the coin idea. "Oh yeah, it's for tipping and other stuff".

;)

Well that is why we built open chat.  :)

Have u even looked at our app?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: PhoneOperator on September 14, 2014, 11:02:27 am
:o

15,000 fans on our page

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Nxtty/645168825569486?fref=nf

most of them are for developing countries, which means that you are buying cheap Facebook click in order to increase your fan base but i do not think that those are relevant users speaking from my commercial experience.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: valarmg on September 14, 2014, 11:03:45 am
What is the reason to tip in NXTTY and not in NXT?
I could see selling NXTTY as shares of NXTTY but I cannot see why you wouldn't want the users of the app to tip in NXT.

One of the core ideas is that the users of Nxtty will also be owners. That's why the Nxttycoins are distributed to users. So that means that all users will have Nxttycoins and very few will have Nxt. Which one makes the most sense to tip in and allow transfers in?

Lots of people like the idea of Monetary System. This will be MS in action. A currency on top of the Nxt blockchain (without the redeeming option). The currency will have value based on the value of the Nxtty company. Pretty cool.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 11:05:57 am
:o

15,000 fans on our page

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Nxtty/645168825569486?fref=nf

most of them are for developing countries, which means that you are buying cheap Facebook click in order to increase your fan base but i do not think that those are relevant users speaking from my commercial experience.

It makes no sense to buy clicks we need to generate revenues from real users, can you please tell me the fastest growing market for Whatsapp?

It's India...so I will follow the trend.

We have specific target markets we look at.


Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: PhoneOperator on September 14, 2014, 11:06:07 am
What is the reason to tip in NXTTY and not in NXT?
I could see selling NXTTY as shares of NXTTY but I cannot see why you wouldn't want the users of the app to tip in NXT.

Where do we get the Nxt from to Tip?  we would need to buy it in the open market.

It would be cool but it would be difficult to implement.

As a holder of NXT I do care for NXT but not for NXTTY so please explain how will NXTTY benefit the NXT network?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: valarmg on September 14, 2014, 11:06:35 am
:o

15,000 fans on our page

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Nxtty/645168825569486?fref=nf

most of them are for developing countries, which means that you are buying cheap Facebook click in order to increase your fan base but i do not think that those are relevant users speaking from my commercial experience.

Easy to buy likes, not so easy to get engagement. The posts on the Nxtty facebook page seems to have loads of engagement.

Gonna be very interesting to see downloads when this is released though. Hopefully that'll be soon.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Peter2516 on September 14, 2014, 11:07:20 am

As a holder of NXT I do care for NXT but not for NXTTY so please explain how will NXTTY benefit the NXT network?

Slowly introducing mainstream users to crypto, for a start...
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: valarmg on September 14, 2014, 11:09:44 am

As a holder of NXT I do care for NXT but not for NXTTY so please explain how will NXTTY benefit the NXT network?

Is that a criticism? Do people ask Apple how Apple products help the US dollar? I don't see why landomata has to tailor his business so it helps Nxt.

That aside, if Nxtty takes off, it'll be huge exposure for Nxt. It's right there in the name.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 11:11:50 am

That aside, if Nxtty takes off, it'll be huge exposure for Nxt. It's right there in the name.

+1 

Built on the Nxt crypto platform its in everything we market.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bitcoinpaul on September 14, 2014, 11:13:04 am
What is the reason to tip in NXTTY and not in NXT?
I could see selling NXTTY as shares of NXTTY but I cannot see why you wouldn't want the users of the app to tip in NXT.

Well, tell me how u would make lots of money by issuing company shares:

- with an asset named "NMAC"
or
- an asset named "NxttyCoin" of which u can then hype the shit out because it has the name "coin" in it?

Mhhhh.... And now u have to sell the coin idea. "Oh yeah, it's for tipping and other stuff".

;)

Well that is why we built open chat.  :)

Have u even looked at our app?

I believe many people just don't understand where the name "nxttycoin" came from, what's really behind nxtty and how it relates to a multi million dollar 'company'.

Could u tell us about nxtty's team please. I want to know who's working in the 'company'.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 11:16:38 am

Could u tell us about nxtty's team please. I want to know who's working in the 'company'.

The Nxtty "team" are all holders & users ...well that is my way of looking at it.  What you would call a community which is just a subset of the larger Nxt community. 

....and larger crypto community.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bitcoinpaul on September 14, 2014, 11:18:02 am

Could u tell us about nxtty's team please. I want to know who's working in the 'company'.

The Nxtty "team" are all holders & users ...well that is my way of looking at it.  What you would call a community which is just a subset of the larger Nxt community. 

....and larger crypto community.

Who are the developers, who is in marketing. Who build the GUI, the logo. Who manages the social network accounts.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 11:22:49 am

Could u tell us about nxtty's team please. I want to know who's working in the 'company'.

The Nxtty "team" are all holders & users ...well that is my way of looking at it.  What you would call a community which is just a subset of the larger Nxt community. 

....and larger crypto community.

Who are the developers, who is in marketing. Who build the GUI, the logo. Who manages the social network accounts.

A mix of internal community members who receive bounties for their work & external professionals that we outsource to.

If you would like to help in any way pls PM me.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: PhoneOperator on September 14, 2014, 11:24:02 am

Could u tell us about nxtty's team please. I want to know who's working in the 'company'.

The Nxtty "team" are all holders & users ...well that is my way of looking at it.  What you would call a community which is just a subset of the larger Nxt community. 

....and larger crypto community.

Who are the developers, who is in marketing. Who build the GUI, the logo. Who manages the social network accounts.
+1
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: PhoneOperator on September 14, 2014, 11:26:14 am
:o

15,000 fans on our page

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Nxtty/645168825569486?fref=nf

most of them are for developing countries, which means that you are buying cheap Facebook click in order to increase your fan base but i do not think that those are relevant users speaking from my commercial experience.

Easy to buy likes, not so easy to get engagement. The posts on the Nxtty facebook page seems to have loads of engagement.

Gonna be very interesting to see downloads when this is released though. Hopefully that'll be soon.

You buy engagement the same way you buy links - posts can be promoted which means you are paying for clicks that leads to that post then you are arbitrary people liking and sharing , here is  one of your most popular posts:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Nxtty/645168825569486?fref=nf

Have a look of the comments from a demographic point of you - do you think that those are the users that will make this app great(they even do not know what is all about but they still like , comment and share)? No offence to the people that lives in developing countries but I did buy cheap facebook links and did promoted facebook posts in order to have the same result and I can tell that those likes , comments and shares are good for nothing.

We are talking about very smart marketing approach here! The nxtty guys have listed a currency on a very active community like NXT , then they start promoting their app on facebook buying cheap clicks that relates to senseless leeds but the overall number makes people believe that something is going on and look at the hysteria here on this community? Very impressive marketing indeed but I still have 2 questions unanswered:

1)How is nxtty different than Threema
2)How is nxtty of any benefit for NXT ?

And no this is not a criticism, i am just asking questions and I need answers, would there be any means of promoting NXT or will people know about NXTTY and not about NXT and how did you come up with this name.

Aside from that, i will say again - bravo for the good job!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bitcoinpaul on September 14, 2014, 11:26:22 am
If you would like to help in any way pls PM me.

Funny guy. U know I don't trust u.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 11:32:43 am
If you would like to help in any way pls PM me.

Funny guy. U know I don't trust u.

What's there to trust, you do your work and I pay you; simple.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 11:36:35 am


And no this is not a criticism, i am just asking questions and I need answers, would there be any means of promoting NXT or will people know about NXTTY and not about NXT and how did you come up with this name.

Aside from that, i will say again - bravo for the good job!

Answers to above questions:

1: Theema does not have a crypto currency and is not free.

2) You have already been answered that's why the name was chosen as Nxt ty.  Slogan build on the Nxt crypto platform:

See video: https://vimeo.com/106090728


Are you upset because I didn't act upon your idea you sent me in PM?




Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bitcoinpaul on September 14, 2014, 11:38:34 am
Back to my question:

Who are the developers, who is in marketing. Who build the GUI, the logo. Who manages the social network accounts.

Let them speak for themselves. Come on, let them register here in the forum. I want to see some nxtty-related posts NOT made by landomata (or Fatih, who builds mockups since a few weeks).

Or, wild guess: Does ur multi million dollar company consists only of u and one guy who develops the apps and servers? ;)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: PhoneOperator on September 14, 2014, 11:42:03 am


And no this is not a criticism, i am just asking questions and I need answers, would there be any means of promoting NXT or will people know about NXTTY and not about NXT and how did you come up with this name.

Aside from that, i will say again - bravo for the good job!

Question

1: Theema does not have a crypto currency and is not free.

2) You have already been answered that's why the name was chosen as Nxt ty.  Slogan build on the Nxt crypto platform:

See video: https://vimeo.com/106090728


Are you upset because I didn't act upon your idea you sent me in PM?

Are you upset because I am asking perfectly normal questions?
My idea is in  my signature and it is fully in the benefit of NXT community/holder - why should i be upset because of some guy caring for his own currency has ignore it? I would be upset if the NXT community does not like it.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: astateofmind on September 14, 2014, 11:46:08 am
What is the reason to tip in NXTTY and not in NXT?
I could see selling NXTTY as shares of NXTTY but I cannot see why you wouldn't want the users of the app to tip in NXT.

Where do we get the Nxt from to Tip?  we would need to buy it in the open market.

It would be cool but it would be difficult to implement.

Fair enough but this condemns NXTTY to oblivion.

Since you are not willing to solve the problem of giving out already existing value, which is ok, you issue out NXTTY coin out of thin air and people will tip with it within the app - this is also ok. Where it derails is when the crypto people speculate on it which ultimately puts immense selling pressure on every user just like Auroracoin did. So if I am an average NXTTY user and one of the most exciting features is making me feel bad because it's worthless when it was worth something and everyone who used to think NXTTY tipping was cool doesn't think so anymore, I will eventually lose interest in the app. Because I am an average user I also suspect that the NSA can easily peer into this crypo-messager anyway and since the value of NXTTY tokens tanked after bubbling accusations of scamming as well as people pointing to the fact that these messages stay in the blockchain forever really turn me off from using it. Especially when snapchat & co. is right there.

You can give someone nothing, you can give someone a promotion but you cannot give someone a demotion and expect them to stay around. NXTTY users will demote themselves by selling out then blame you and stop using the app. Ideally you give someone nothing while appearing to give them something. An example would be FB pokes. Never worth anything except for people's usage of it. But it's a feature from the benevolent FB and everyone uses it so everyone uses it.

So why not make NXTTY tips just facebook pokes equivalents and give the option to actually tip in NXT if the user is so inclined, maybe even mgw tip? If they find value in doing it, they will do it. Also, I state above that it's possible AM staying forever in the blockchain can be used to attack NXTTY. Please confirm whether this is true or whether NXTTY gets rid of the messages somehow.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Jimmy2011 on September 14, 2014, 11:50:59 am


And no this is not a criticism, i am just asking questions and I need answers, would there be any means of promoting NXT or will people know about NXTTY and not about NXT and how did you come up with this name.

Aside from that, i will say again - bravo for the good job!

Question

1: Theema does not have a crypto currency and is not free.

2) You have already been answered that's why the name was chosen as Nxt ty.  Slogan build on the Nxt crypto platform:

See video: https://vimeo.com/106090728


Are you upset because I didn't act upon your idea you sent me in PM?

Personally I think Question 1) is the most important. If question 1) can be accepted by the investors, I think the question 2) is OK for the community.

@landomata your answer for question 1) is actually not an answer, as we all know Theema does not have a crypto part. What PhoneOperator wants to know is how you prove the crypto part in Nxtty as you claimed.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: astateofmind on September 14, 2014, 11:51:27 am

As a holder of NXT I do care for NXT but not for NXTTY so please explain how will NXTTY benefit the NXT network?

Slowly introducing mainstream users to crypto, for a start...

This by itself is definitely positive. I am curious though, did you witness the Auroracoin stunt?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 11:54:37 am

Personally I think Question 1) is the most important. If question 1) can be accepted by the investors, I think the question 2) is OK for the community.

@landomata your answer for question 1) is actually not an answer, as we all know Theema does not have a crypto part. What PhoneOperator wants to know is how you prove the crypto part in Nxtty as you claimed.

Sorry I made a typo I should have wrote Answer.

The above were answers to his question.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 11:55:57 am

As a holder of NXT I do care for NXT but not for NXTTY so please explain how will NXTTY benefit the NXT network?

Slowly introducing mainstream users to crypto, for a start...

This by itself is definitely positive. I am curious though, did you witness the Auroracoin stunt?

What we are doing is completely different from Aurora-coin.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 11:58:03 am
Please confirm whether this is true or whether NXTTY gets rid of the messages somehow.

We do not store messages on Nxt block chain.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 12:01:31 pm

Are you upset because I am asking perfectly normal questions?

I have answers your above questions & I am open to answer any more you may have.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: astateofmind on September 14, 2014, 12:02:16 pm
Please confirm whether this is true or whether NXTTY gets rid of the messages somehow.

We do not store messages on Nxt block chain.

NXTTY blockchain. Do the messages stay in the NXTTY blockchain forever?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: astateofmind on September 14, 2014, 12:04:28 pm

As a holder of NXT I do care for NXT but not for NXTTY so please explain how will NXTTY benefit the NXT network?

Slowly introducing mainstream users to crypto, for a start...

This by itself is definitely positive. I am curious though, did you witness the Auroracoin stunt?

What we are doing is completely different from Aurora-coin.

Newly created crypto tokens handed out to laymen is the same strategy as Auroracoin. I am not saying this is all NXTTY is. NXTTY is quite cool but NXTTY tipping in its current form is another flavor of auroracoin and it is NXTTY poison.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 12:05:33 pm
Please confirm whether this is true or whether NXTTY gets rid of the messages somehow.

We do not store messages on Nxt block chain.

NXTTY blockchain. Do the messages stay in the NXTTY blockchain forever?

All Nxt assets reside on the "Nxt" blockchain.

We store messages off chain.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 12:07:23 pm

Newly created crypto tokens handed out to laymen is the same strategy as Auroracoin. I am not saying this is all NXTTY is. NXTTY is quite cool but NXTTY tipping in its current form is another flavor of auroracoin and it is NXTTY poison.

They are night & day, time will prove us correct.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: astateofmind on September 14, 2014, 12:10:36 pm
Please confirm whether this is true or whether NXTTY gets rid of the messages somehow.

We do not store messages on Nxt block chain.

NXTTY blockchain. Do the messages stay in the NXTTY blockchain forever?

All Nxt assets reside on the "Nxt" blockchain.

We store messages off chain.

Where can I read more about the way NXTTY transmits and stores messages?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 12:12:35 pm
Please confirm whether this is true or whether NXTTY gets rid of the messages somehow.

We do not store messages on Nxt block chain.

NXTTY blockchain. Do the messages stay in the NXTTY blockchain forever?

All Nxt assets reside on the "Nxt" blockchain.

We store messages off chain.

Where can I read more about the way NXTTY transmits and stores messages?

In that case I would advise you to please study Nxt code it is open source ...we make use of simple arbitrary messages.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: valarmg on September 14, 2014, 12:16:55 pm
Please confirm whether this is true or whether NXTTY gets rid of the messages somehow.

We do not store messages on Nxt block chain.


Where can I read more about the way NXTTY transmits and stores messages?

In that case I would advise you to please study Nxt code it is open source ...we make use of simple arbitrary messages.

These two answers seem to conflict.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 12:21:08 pm
Please confirm whether this is true or whether NXTTY gets rid of the messages somehow.

We do not store messages on Nxt block chain.


Where can I read more about the way NXTTY transmits and stores messages?

In that case I would advise you to please study Nxt code it is open source ...we make use of simple arbitrary messages.

These two answers seem to conflict.

The crypto part is handled by Nxt platform....we just store encrypted messages at server only.

Nxtty makes use of full Nxt code base except the message storing part which is also a feature set of Nxt software. Nxt is a very powerful platform.



Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: astateofmind on September 14, 2014, 12:26:24 pm
NXTTY messages, though encrypted, remain somewhere instead of being erased. Since this isn't part of the business model, will message expiration be an option for senders?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 12:27:30 pm
NXTTY messages, though encrypted, remain somewhere instead of being erased. Since this isn't part of the business model, will message expiration be an option for senders?

Message destruction was one of our 1st features, we provide both manual & automatic message destruction options.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bitcoinpaul on September 14, 2014, 12:28:58 pm

A mix of internal community members who receive bounties for their work & external professionals that we outsource to.


Who?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: chanc3r on September 14, 2014, 12:39:37 pm

As a holder of NXT I do care for NXT but not for NXTTY so please explain how will NXTTY benefit the NXT network?

Then you need to understand better that NXT is a platform to enable businesses to grow... there are number of ventures on NXT AE which use NXT to differing degrees.

NXT while a fantastic piece of technology is still young and has has its limitations, regarding NXTTY messaging, landomata and team have the right to decide how much they use it or not.

I have another questions - "Why is it when something in happening in NXT is close becoming successful we beat up on it... this is not the first time this has happened." - shame i'm not a conspiracy theorist.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: igmaca on September 14, 2014, 01:01:10 pm
at the end, which is the exact data?

in, nxt ae, nxtty assets issued are ; 1,000,000,000
in, coinmarket nxtty assets issued are 200,000,000
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 01:02:23 pm
at the end, which is the exact data?

in, nxt ae, nxtty assets issued are ; 1,000,000,000
in, coinmarket nxtty assets issued are 200,000,000

1B exist. 
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 01:10:23 pm
at the end, which is the exact data?

in, nxt ae, nxtty assets issued are ; 1,000,000,000
in, coinmarket nxtty assets issued are 200,000,000

1B exist.

There is advantage in this action I have realized....so with this new rule I think it will be hard for new coins listed to CMC to quote full supply unless the coins are actually in circulation.


Really sucks for coins with big supply base and phrased distribution plans.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 01:22:56 pm
at the end, which is the exact data?

in, nxt ae, nxtty assets issued are ; 1,000,000,000
in, coinmarket nxtty assets issued are 200,000,000

1B exist.

There is advantage in this action I have realized....so with this new rule I think it will be hard for new coins listed to CMC to quote full supply unless the coins are actually in circulation.

Really sucks for coins with big supply base and phrased distribution plans.

This could be known as the great market cap Schism. If anyone from other coins wants to know who took it upon themselves to meddle with this, they can look in this thread.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 14, 2014, 01:45:43 pm
at the end, which is the exact data?

in, nxt ae, nxtty assets issued are ; 1,000,000,000
in, coinmarket nxtty assets issued are 200,000,000

1B exist.

There is advantage in this action I have realized....so with this new rule I think it will be hard for new coins listed to CMC to quote full supply unless the coins are actually in circulation.

Really sucks for coins with big supply base and phrased distribution plans.

This could be known as the great market cap Schism. If anyone from other coins wants to know who took it upon themselves to meddle with this, they can look in this thread.



Yeah, the evil TwinWinNerD "made" your "asset" display the amount that is really tradable. I am so sorry. Deeply.

Funny how when jl777 made the exact (1:1) argument, that not all 1 bn are available for trade, suddenly you two guys agree, but sparta_cuss and me were obviously wrong.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 01:57:03 pm
at the end, which is the exact data?

in, nxt ae, nxtty assets issued are ; 1,000,000,000
in, coinmarket nxtty assets issued are 200,000,000

1B exist.

There is advantage in this action I have realized....so with this new rule I think it will be hard for new coins listed to CMC to quote full supply unless the coins are actually in circulation.

Really sucks for coins with big supply base and phrased distribution plans.

This could be known as the great market cap Schism. If anyone from other coins wants to know who took it upon themselves to meddle with this, they can look in this thread.



Yeah, the evil TwinWinNerD "made" your "asset" display the amount that is really tradable. I am so sorry. Deeply.

Funny how when jl777 made the exact (1:1) argument, that not all 1 bn are available for trade, suddenly you two guys agree, but sparta_cuss and me were obviously wrong.

It seems you convinced Gliss to enact the rule too bad it now effects even James assets.  And all the assets where the issuer holds coins in the issuing account.

I will specifically keep a close eye on this issue from now on.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: chanc3r on September 14, 2014, 01:57:37 pm
at the end, which is the exact data?

in, nxt ae, nxtty assets issued are ; 1,000,000,000
in, coinmarket nxtty assets issued are 200,000,000

1B exist.

There is advantage in this action I have realized....so with this new rule I think it will be hard for new coins listed to CMC to quote full supply unless the coins are actually in circulation.

Really sucks for coins with big supply base and phrased distribution plans.

This could be known as the great market cap Schism. If anyone from other coins wants to know who took it upon themselves to meddle with this, they can look in this thread.
took me a while to work out why this is is going on.

its a shame that CMC has become political in how is lists and in my view is on the verge of becoming viewed as a market manipulator.

market cap it should be simple the coins that have been minted, therefore EXIST are the total..
wallets then hold these coins...
if people are not selling these coins the price may rise depending on demand
if people are selling them the price can fall depending on demand

there is crypto locked up in cold wallets or lost - how can this be 'in circulation' but it EXISTS so its counted.
this is true of many other wallets or coins where amounts are held in development funds, these coins also seem to be counted.

there is an issue here in being able to trust and understand the consistency of the market cap valuations on CMC and its got nothing to to with NXTTY.

how can we be sure that CMC is doing the correct due diligence on all crypto's listed and making sure all supplies are accurately accounted for according to a consistent set of rules...

at the moment it seems that they just listen to issues raised and make an arbitrary decision so maybe we should find out the size of the 'dev/promotion' funds for all the coins and have those removed from market caps.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 14, 2014, 02:01:00 pm
at the end, which is the exact data?

in, nxt ae, nxtty assets issued are ; 1,000,000,000
in, coinmarket nxtty assets issued are 200,000,000

1B exist.

There is advantage in this action I have realized....so with this new rule I think it will be hard for new coins listed to CMC to quote full supply unless the coins are actually in circulation.

Really sucks for coins with big supply base and phrased distribution plans.

This could be known as the great market cap Schism. If anyone from other coins wants to know who took it upon themselves to meddle with this, they can look in this thread.
took me a while to work out why this is is going on.

its a shame that CMC has become political in how is lists and in my view is on the verge of becoming viewed as a market manipulator.

market cap it should be simple the coins that have been minted, therefore EXIST are the total..
wallets then hold these coins...
if people are not selling these coins the price may rise depending on demand
if people are selling them the price can fall depending on demand

there is crypto locked up in cold wallets or lost - how can this be 'in circulation' but it EXISTS so its counted.
this is true of many other wallets or coins where amounts are held in development funds, these coins also seem to be counted.

there is an issue here in being able to trust and understand the consistency of the market cap valuations on CMC and its got nothing to to with NXTTY.

how can we be sure that CMC is doing the correct due diligence on all crypto's listed and making sure all supplies are accurately accounted for according to a consistent set of rules...

at the moment it seems that they just listen to issues raised and make an arbitrary decision so maybe we should find out the size of the 'dev/promotion' funds for all the coins and have those removed from market caps.


There is a very nice thought experiment that can debunk your argument:

Imagine you create a new coin that has 1 bn coins, it is insta mined and all coins are minted within first block. Now you only release 10000 coins and support a marketprice of around 7 USD per coin.

Now with your logic, CMC should list that coin above BTC? Because 1 BN * 7 USD = 7bn market cap ;)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: allwelder on September 14, 2014, 02:01:50 pm
I have used nxtty ,a few questions:
1.Nxtty is not based on Nxt blockchain? boz no need for installing Nxt client.
2.Nxtty used its own blockchain instead of Nxt blockchain?
3.Nxtty is fully p2p decentralized app?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 14, 2014, 02:02:26 pm
at the end, which is the exact data?

in, nxt ae, nxtty assets issued are ; 1,000,000,000
in, coinmarket nxtty assets issued are 200,000,000

1B exist.

There is advantage in this action I have realized....so with this new rule I think it will be hard for new coins listed to CMC to quote full supply unless the coins are actually in circulation.

Really sucks for coins with big supply base and phrased distribution plans.

This could be known as the great market cap Schism. If anyone from other coins wants to know who took it upon themselves to meddle with this, they can look in this thread.



Yeah, the evil TwinWinNerD "made" your "asset" display the amount that is really tradable. I am so sorry. Deeply.

Funny how when jl777 made the exact (1:1) argument, that not all 1 bn are available for trade, suddenly you two guys agree, but sparta_cuss and me were obviously wrong.

It seems you convinced Gliss to enact the rule too bad it now effects even James assets.  And all the assets where the issuer holds coins in the issuing account.

I will specifically keep a close eye on this issue from now on.



As much as I'd like to claim responsibility for this, I wasn't primarily the reason this was changed. It was the CMC users that demanded this. Otherwise Ripple and stellar would be rank 2 and 3
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 02:02:49 pm

There is a very nice thought experiment that can debunk your argument:

Imagine you create a new coin that has 1 bn coins, it is insta mined and all coins are minted within first block. Now you only release 10000 coins and support a marketprice of around 7 USD per coin.

Now with your logic, CMC should list that coin above BTC? Because 1 BN * 7 USD = 7bn market cap ;)

What we are saying is that this "Rules" should now apply to everyone.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 14, 2014, 02:04:17 pm

There is a very nice thought experiment that can debunk your argument:

Imagine you create a new coin that has 1 bn coins, it is insta mined and all coins are minted within first block. Now you only release 10000 coins and support a marketprice of around 7 USD per coin.

Now with your logic, CMC should list that coin above BTC? Because 1 BN * 7 USD = 7bn market cap ;)

What we are saying is that this "Rules" should now apply to everyone.



Did you know that you can view the list however you want:

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/views/market-cap-by-total-supply/

Is this better for you?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 02:04:22 pm

As much as I'd like to claim responsibility for this, I wasn't primarily the reason this was changed. It was the CMC users that demanded this. Otherwise Ripple and stellar would be rank 2 and 3

You will forever be known as the one who ruined TOKEN's chances to reach the top 5 of CMC marketcap.

Or any other coin in fact.

I really still don't know your motivation.



Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 14, 2014, 02:06:05 pm

As much as I'd like to claim responsibility for this, I wasn't primarily the reason this was changed. It was the CMC users that demanded this. Otherwise Ripple and stellar would be rank 2 and 3

You will forever be known as the one who ruined TOKEN's chances to reach the top 5 of CMC marketcap.

Or any other coin in fact.



No, you don't understand the implications. TOKEN will be normally displayed because in fact all UNITY will be available for trade...
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 02:07:23 pm

As much as I'd like to claim responsibility for this, I wasn't primarily the reason this was changed. It was the CMC users that demanded this. Otherwise Ripple and stellar would be rank 2 and 3

You will forever be known as the one who ruined TOKEN's chances to reach the top 5 of CMC marketcap.

Or any other coin in fact.



No, you don't understand the implications. TOKEN will be normally displayed because in fact all UNITY will be available for trade...

It's clear from convo with Gliss that coins held by asset issuer or not actively traded should not count.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 14, 2014, 02:07:56 pm

As much as I'd like to claim responsibility for this, I wasn't primarily the reason this was changed. It was the CMC users that demanded this. Otherwise Ripple and stellar would be rank 2 and 3

You will forever be known as the one who ruined TOKEN's chances to reach the top 5 of CMC marketcap.

Or any other coin in fact.



No, you don't understand the implications. TOKEN will be normally displayed because in fact all UNITY will be available for trade...

It's clear from convo with Gliss that coins held by asset issuer or not actively traded should not count.



Exactly, and how does that apply to TOKEN?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: chanc3r on September 14, 2014, 02:08:19 pm

There is a very nice thought experiment that can debunk your argument:

Imagine you create a new coin that has 1 bn coins, it is insta mined and all coins are minted within first block. Now you only release 10000 coins and support a marketprice of around 7 USD per coin.

Now with your logic, CMC should list that coin above BTC? Because 1 BN * 7 USD = 7bn market cap ;)

Nice try to take an extreme example to argue a point.. not going to bother on that - I will just reemphasis - the important point is the consistency of CMC across all cryptos...

If CMC want to deal with its this way then...

I would expect CMC to do the same due diligence on all coins / assets and implement this rule for all consistently and as new coins are in circulation DEVs need to notify CMC who need to verify it and update accordingly.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 14, 2014, 02:09:18 pm

There is a very nice thought experiment that can debunk your argument:

Imagine you create a new coin that has 1 bn coins, it is insta mined and all coins are minted within first block. Now you only release 10000 coins and support a marketprice of around 7 USD per coin.

Now with your logic, CMC should list that coin above BTC? Because 1 BN * 7 USD = 7bn market cap ;)

Nice try to take an extreme example to argue a point.. not going to bother on that - I will just reemphasis - the important point is the consistency of CMC across all cryptos...

If CMC want to deal with its this way then...

I would expect CMC to do the same due diligence on all coins / assets and implement this rule for all consistently and as new coins are in circulation DEVs need to notify CMC who need to verify it and update accordingly.

Please tell me any coin/asset listed that has more "available supply" listed than is really available. I can fix that number too.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 02:09:30 pm

There is a very nice thought experiment that can debunk your argument:

Imagine you create a new coin that has 1 bn coins, it is insta mined and all coins are minted within first block. Now you only release 10000 coins and support a marketprice of around 7 USD per coin.

Now with your logic, CMC should list that coin above BTC? Because 1 BN * 7 USD = 7bn market cap ;)

Nice try to take an extreme example to argue a point.. not going to bother on that - I will just reemphasis - the important point is the consistency of CMC across all cryptos...

If CMC want to deal with its this way then...

I would expect CMC to do the same due diligence on all coins / assets and implement this rule for all consistently and as new coins are in circulation DEVs need to notify CMC who need to verify it and update accordingly.

It seems our friend has created a nightmare.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 14, 2014, 02:10:41 pm

There is a very nice thought experiment that can debunk your argument:

Imagine you create a new coin that has 1 bn coins, it is insta mined and all coins are minted within first block. Now you only release 10000 coins and support a marketprice of around 7 USD per coin.

Now with your logic, CMC should list that coin above BTC? Because 1 BN * 7 USD = 7bn market cap ;)

Nice try to take an extreme example to argue a point.. not going to bother on that - I will just reemphasis - the important point is the consistency of CMC across all cryptos...

If CMC want to deal with its this way then...

I would expect CMC to do the same due diligence on all coins / assets and implement this rule for all consistently and as new coins are in circulation DEVs need to notify CMC who need to verify it and update accordingly.

It seems our friend has created a nightmare.

No, I made you guys wake up from your dream.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: chanc3r on September 14, 2014, 02:11:21 pm

As much as I'd like to claim responsibility for this, I wasn't primarily the reason this was changed. It was the CMC users that demanded this. Otherwise Ripple and stellar would be rank 2 and 3

You will forever be known as the one who ruined TOKEN's chances to reach the top 5 of CMC marketcap.

Or any other coin in fact.



No, you don't understand the implications. TOKEN will be normally displayed because in fact all UNITY will be available for trade...

It's clear from convo with Gliss that coins held by asset issuer or not actively traded should not count.



Exactly, and how does that apply to TOKEN?

I do agree on this point - TOKEN will cease to exist and UNITY will be 100% tradable..
I would advise against even adding TOKEN to CMC as its trade value is locked for ICO and then it will be destroyed
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bitcoinpaul on September 14, 2014, 02:12:06 pm

A mix of internal community members who receive bounties for their work & external professionals that we outsource to.


Who?

Who are the working community members and who are the external professionals? And do u decide everything on ur own because ur multimillion dollar company is a hyped one-man-show or what is going on behind the scenes? Why do we only read nxtty-related updates from u?

Just give us some honest answers.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: chanc3r on September 14, 2014, 02:13:55 pm

There is a very nice thought experiment that can debunk your argument:

Imagine you create a new coin that has 1 bn coins, it is insta mined and all coins are minted within first block. Now you only release 10000 coins and support a marketprice of around 7 USD per coin.

Now with your logic, CMC should list that coin above BTC? Because 1 BN * 7 USD = 7bn market cap ;)

Nice try to take an extreme example to argue a point.. not going to bother on that - I will just reemphasis - the important point is the consistency of CMC across all cryptos...

If CMC want to deal with its this way then...

I would expect CMC to do the same due diligence on all coins / assets and implement this rule for all consistently and as new coins are in circulation DEVs need to notify CMC who need to verify it and update accordingly.

Please tell me any coin/asset listed that has more "available supply" listed than is really available. I can fix that number too.

Its not my job to do CMC's job for them... they need to assure how they know coins in circulation as part of listing, for NXT maybe its easy maybe  not, for example if they programmatically deduct assets in issuing account then if I wanted to manipulate I would just move them, there needs to be more than that to this otherwise there is a perceived accuracy that is not maintained.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 02:14:03 pm

There is a very nice thought experiment that can debunk your argument:

Imagine you create a new coin that has 1 bn coins, it is insta mined and all coins are minted within first block. Now you only release 10000 coins and support a marketprice of around 7 USD per coin.

Now with your logic, CMC should list that coin above BTC? Because 1 BN * 7 USD = 7bn market cap ;)

Nice try to take an extreme example to argue a point.. not going to bother on that - I will just reemphasis - the important point is the consistency of CMC across all cryptos...

If CMC want to deal with its this way then...

I would expect CMC to do the same due diligence on all coins / assets and implement this rule for all consistently and as new coins are in circulation DEVs need to notify CMC who need to verify it and update accordingly.

It seems our friend has created a nightmare.

No, I made you guys wake up from your dream.

You have created a precedent where a if any Foundation holds coins in a reserve account they will not count on CMC.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 14, 2014, 02:14:37 pm

There is a very nice thought experiment that can debunk your argument:

Imagine you create a new coin that has 1 bn coins, it is insta mined and all coins are minted within first block. Now you only release 10000 coins and support a marketprice of around 7 USD per coin.

Now with your logic, CMC should list that coin above BTC? Because 1 BN * 7 USD = 7bn market cap ;)

Nice try to take an extreme example to argue a point.. not going to bother on that - I will just reemphasis - the important point is the consistency of CMC across all cryptos...

If CMC want to deal with its this way then...

I would expect CMC to do the same due diligence on all coins / assets and implement this rule for all consistently and as new coins are in circulation DEVs need to notify CMC who need to verify it and update accordingly.

It seems our friend has created a nightmare.

No, I made you guys wake up from your dream.
Thanks man. Everybody really appreciate your work on this. Lol.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 02:24:02 pm
I have used nxtty ,a few questions:
1.Nxtty is not based on Nxt blockchain? boz no need for installing Nxt client.
2.Nxtty used its own blockchain instead of Nxt blockchain?
3.Nxtty is fully p2p decentralized app?

1) Yes
2) No
3) Its hybrid 50/50 

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: viennavtc on September 14, 2014, 02:29:28 pm
lando, what is up with the app release date?.. it's been imminent now for a long time.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Damelon on September 14, 2014, 02:30:17 pm
Seems to me CMC is having a problem adapting the current site to changed circumstances.

They started out as a site for coin listings, but now that Assets are being added to the mix, a confusing situation is arising.

I don't know if they actually have a clear mission statement, but if that one is to provide accurate and clear listings of digital financial instruments, it seems they could do well to look into seperating coins, Assets, fundraising tokens etc at some point.

That would give a fair, clear and readable overview of what is out there in the market.

Now they are clearly getting in the situation where Bitcoin is clearly going to be pushed off from #1 fairly soon, once a major player enters the Asset space.

That is psychologically difficult to handle, is my guess. It may even lead to a crash, just because it would seem Bitcoin has been "dethroned". I think the main problem here is a mix of psychological arguments, coupled with a not clearly stated mission statement, leading to decisions that are debatable.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: allwelder on September 14, 2014, 02:36:46 pm
I have used nxtty ,a few questions:
1.Nxtty is not based on Nxt blockchain? boz no need for installing Nxt client.
2.Nxtty used its own blockchain instead of Nxt blockchain?
3.Nxtty is fully p2p decentralized app?

1) Yes
2) No
3) Its hybrid 50/50
Got it,thanks.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 02:38:47 pm
lando, what is up with the app release date?.. it's been imminent now for a long time.

Yes it has, the crypto implementation part was way beyond what we expected.

Plus the beta testers suggested a lot of new things which we have added.

 

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: chanc3r on September 14, 2014, 02:45:57 pm
Seems to me CMC is having a problem adapting the current site to changed circumstances.

They started out as a site for coin listings, but now that Assets are being added to the mix, a confusing situation is arising.

I don't know if they actually have a clear mission statement, but if that one is to provide accurate and clear listings of digital financial instruments, it seems they could do well to look into seperating coins, Assets, fundraising tokens etc at some point.

That would give a fair, clear and readable overview of what is out there in the market.

Now they are clearly getting in the situation where Bitcoin is clearly going to be pushed off from #1 fairly soon, once a major player enters the Asset space.

That is psychologically difficult to handle, is my guess. It may even lead to a crash, just because it would seem Bitcoin has been "dethroned". I think the main problem here is a mix of psychological arguments, coupled with a not clearly stated mission statement, leading to decisions that are debatable.

I agree I can see CMC is trying to adapt, I did some other checking for example NHZ supply is 138M, now 1B NHZ exist but the rest are held in escrow with a 2-3 year distribution model so I can see the sense of it.

I think where Available supply is adjusted from total supply CMC just needs to provide the information on how each Available supply is calculated on the coin details page and this will resolve it. Also it would be useful to list the principles generally applied in calculating Available supply so people can contact if they think its wrong.

As a hodler & supporter of NXTTY is sad to see it drop down CMC but we do need to have consistency and transparency on the listings.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on September 14, 2014, 02:51:33 pm

There is a very nice thought experiment that can debunk your argument:

Imagine you create a new coin that has 1 bn coins, it is insta mined and all coins are minted within first block. Now you only release 10000 coins and support a marketprice of around 7 USD per coin.

Now with your logic, CMC should list that coin above BTC? Because 1 BN * 7 USD = 7bn market cap ;)

Nice try to take an extreme example to argue a point.. not going to bother on that - I will just reemphasis - the important point is the consistency of CMC across all cryptos...

If CMC want to deal with its this way then...

I would expect CMC to do the same due diligence on all coins / assets and implement this rule for all consistently and as new coins are in circulation DEVs need to notify CMC who need to verify it and update accordingly.

It seems our friend has created a nightmare.

No, I made you guys wake up from your dream.

You have created a precedent where a if any Foundation holds coins in a reserve account they will not count on CMC.
No landomata, this is like that on CMC since about last february (or when auroracoin was launch, something like that). I have been wondering at first why all the 1B coins where there, it was just a matter of time until this was fix by someone. It OK, it is just that you did not know fully how CMC was supposed to display the coins. Ripple is best example.

Put this story aside, it is not a big deal.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Kitchentable on September 14, 2014, 02:54:18 pm
During the Aurora pump it started to become common practice for coins to be made with a large pre-mine holding and only allowing the mined coins to be traded. With such a limited supply being traded it gave the overall pool of coins a false sense of value because CMC was calculating all the coins as being traded. People called them country coins but I considered it coin makers figuring out that some investors were using CMC to determine which coin to invest in over perceived value. CMC decided to not list the pre-mine coin holdings and only list the ones in circulation to stop the value manipulation. That rule has been in place for time now so don't expect them to change it.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: astateofmind on September 14, 2014, 03:12:54 pm
Seems to me CMC is having a problem adapting the current site to changed circumstances.

They started out as a site for coin listings, but now that Assets are being added to the mix, a confusing situation is arising.

I don't know if they actually have a clear mission statement, but if that one is to provide accurate and clear listings of digital financial instruments, it seems they could do well to look into seperating coins, Assets, fundraising tokens etc at some point.

That would give a fair, clear and readable overview of what is out there in the market.

Now they are clearly getting in the situation where Bitcoin is clearly going to be pushed off from #1 fairly soon, once a major player enters the Asset space.

That is psychologically difficult to handle, is my guess. It may even lead to a crash, just because it would seem Bitcoin has been "dethroned". I think the main problem here is a mix of psychological arguments, coupled with a not clearly stated mission statement, leading to decisions that are debatable.

You make a good point and it seems they are trying to avert the unavoidable. The measures they have taken so far are legitimate but they are slow. I don't understand how they allow a listing to be listed with the incorrect metrics and then make a material change to it. I can understand when it was initially done with Ripple but after the first one you have a policy. Apply it before you list any new coin and avoid debacles like the one brought up in this thread. If you don't understand the asset to apply your policy to it then wait until you do before listing it.
The day will come when you will have to list an asset that is bigger than BTC and people who are used to doubting you instead of their eyes will look for another coinmarketcap right away. Which would be sad since coinmarketcap is excellent overall.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 03:13:50 pm

No landomata, this is like that on CMC since about last february (or when auroracoin was launch, something like that). I have been wondering at first why all the 1B coins where there, it was just a matter of time until this was fix by someone. It OK, it is just that you did not know fully how CMC was supposed to display the coins. Ripple is best example.

Put this story aside, it is not a big deal.
I remember when Ripple was 2 or 3 billion and then they dropped to couple hundred million also with the recent jump from 3rd to 2nd.  It's not a bad rule it should just be implemented across the board.

It really doesn't matter to us as we are not a pump and dump it will also cool down speculation a bit.



Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on September 14, 2014, 03:14:51 pm
Seems to me CMC is having a problem adapting the current site to changed circumstances.

They started out as a site for coin listings, but now that Assets are being added to the mix, a confusing situation is arising.

I don't know if they actually have a clear mission statement, but if that one is to provide accurate and clear listings of digital financial instruments, it seems they could do well to look into seperating coins, Assets, fundraising tokens etc at some point.

That would give a fair, clear and readable overview of what is out there in the market.

Now they are clearly getting in the situation where Bitcoin is clearly going to be pushed off from #1 fairly soon, once a major player enters the Asset space.

That is psychologically difficult to handle, is my guess. It may even lead to a crash, just because it would seem Bitcoin has been "dethroned". I think the main problem here is a mix of psychological arguments, coupled with a not clearly stated mission statement, leading to decisions that are debatable.

You make a good point and it seems they are trying to avert the unavoidable. The measures they have taken so far are legitimate but they are slow. I don't understand how they allow a listing to be listed with the incorrect metrics and then make a material change to it. I can understand when it was initially done with Ripple but after the first one you have a policy. Apply it before you list any new coin and avoid debacles like the one brought up in this thread. If you don't understand the asset to apply your policy to it then wait until you do before listing it.
The day will come when you will have to list an asset that is bigger than BTC and people who are used to doubting you instead of their eyes will look for another coinmarketcap right away. Which would be sad since coinmarketcap is excellent overall.

Yes, the people that implement the coin on CMC should ask question to coin devs. I think it is in large part the fault of "gliss" if he is the guy that implement the coins on the CMC.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: trollstocker on September 14, 2014, 03:25:56 pm
Well Sir,

I have read all the new posts since the CMC post started

All I have to say is BRAVO Nxtty! all the FUD spread and we are less than 300,000 nxtty to get back to where we were at 0.167 before it all started!!

It is well known for a long time that whomever greases CMC palm the most gets the best results IMO..hence look at all the chitcoins that have market caps lots higher than Nxtty

Here is the way i see things..CMC just did nxtty a HUGE FAVOR!!
because now we can go to .02USD and only have a 2 Million market cap!

We can run to almost .04USD before we hit 8 Million on CMC..Now that is going to be fun

Let the games begin!



Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 14, 2014, 03:36:55 pm
Well Sir,

I have read all the new posts since the CMC post started

All I have to say is BRAVO Nxtty! all the FUD spread and we are less than 300,00 nxtty to get back to where we were at 0.167 before it all started!!

It is well known for a long time that whomever greases CMC palm the most gets the best results IMO..hence look at all the chitcoins that have market caps lots higher than Nxtty

Here is the way i see things..CMC just did nxtty a HUGE FAVOR!!
because now we can go to .02USD and only have a 2 Million market cap!

We can run to almost .04USD before we hit 8 Million on CMC..Now that is going to be fun

Let the games begin!
+1

Finally someone positive. Damn.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: m30188 on September 14, 2014, 03:40:26 pm
Well Sir,

I have read all the new posts since the CMC post started

All I have to say is BRAVO Nxtty! all the FUD spread and we are less than 300,00 nxtty to get back to where we were at 0.167 before it all started!!

It is well known for a long time that whomever greases CMC palm the most gets the best results IMO..hence look at all the chitcoins that have market caps lots higher than Nxtty

Here is the way i see things..CMC just did nxtty a HUGE FAVOR!!
because now we can go to .02USD and only have a 2 Million market cap!

We can run to almost .04USD before we hit 8 Million on CMC..Now that is going to be fun

Let the games begin!
+1

Finally someone positive. Damn.
I think he was being sarcastic
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on September 14, 2014, 03:45:14 pm
I think he was being sarcastic

Well, I find this also a positive view.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bitcoinpaul on September 14, 2014, 03:46:20 pm
because now we can go to .02USD and only have a 2 Million market cap!

I thought this was the plan.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 14, 2014, 04:02:14 pm
And now cmc is down. Did they pack up all their coins and go home?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: trollstocker on September 14, 2014, 04:13:14 pm
Well Sir,

I have read all the new posts since the CMC post started

All I have to say is BRAVO Nxtty! all the FUD spread and we are less than 300,00 nxtty to get back to where we were at 0.167 before it all started!!

It is well known for a long time that whomever greases CMC palm the most gets the best results IMO..hence look at all the chitcoins that have market caps lots higher than Nxtty

Here is the way i see things..CMC just did nxtty a HUGE FAVOR!!
because now we can go to .02USD and only have a 2 Million market cap!

We can run to almost .04USD before we hit 8 Million on CMC..Now that is going to be fun

Let the games begin!
+1

Finally someone positive. Damn.
I think he was being sarcastic

not at all!

it is ALWAYS better being the underdog than the king of the mountain!
for all through history the underdog has proven to the king of the mountain that
it is much harder to stay on top, than it is to climb it.

I like to keep things simple when i invest..I asked myself one question when i read all the fud

did anything change with the company since it came out?
as in the app released and was full of bugs...No so what did happen?

Answer nothing happened

so in keeping it simple all it really did was it opened up a chance for all the folks that don't this thread to pick up some really discounted nxttty IMO

I will say again it is a great honor being an underdog

http://www.sundance.tv/top-ten/top-ten-worlds-greatest-underdogs#/11

If this Apps works as good as it looks in a year from now, all that held nxttycoin will be laughing and rejoicing at the price we paid in Sep 2014
IMO
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: LocoMB on September 14, 2014, 05:37:29 pm
Well Sir,

I have read all the new posts since the CMC post started

All I have to say is BRAVO Nxtty! all the FUD spread and we are less than 300,000 nxtty to get back to where we were at 0.167 before it all started!!

It is well known for a long time that whomever greases CMC palm the most gets the best results IMO..hence look at all the chitcoins that have market caps lots higher than Nxtty

Here is the way i see things..CMC just did nxtty a HUGE FAVOR!!
because now we can go to .02USD and only have a 2 Million market cap!

We can run to almost .04USD before we hit 8 Million on CMC..Now that is going to be fun

Let the games begin!

NICELY SAID!  :D
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: nxtrules on September 14, 2014, 07:37:40 pm
So what does this app even have to do with nxt?!

Nxtty runs on NRS (Nxt Resource Software) just doesn't use Arbitrary Messages.

NRS is not just about AM.  :)

A few curious questions:

1) Is the app coded in Java?

2) For phone calls, does it use SIP/RTP? Is the voice stream secured (srtp?)  Any other protocols? How are DTMFs transferred? inband, out-of-band? What codecs are supported?

3)  Is conferencing supported?

4) what other voice features are supported?

5) What carriers do you use for termination to PSTN? What are the costs to you?

6) How does the voice call affect the load on the phone?

thank you
nr
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 14, 2014, 08:06:52 pm
So what does this app even have to do with nxt?!

Nxtty runs on NRS (Nxt Resource Software) just doesn't use Arbitrary Messages.

NRS is not just about AM.  :)

A few curious questions:

1) Is the app coded in Java?

2) For phone calls, does it use SIP/RTP? Is the voice stream secured (srtp?)  Any other protocols? How are DTMFs transferred? inband, out-of-band? What codecs are supported?

3)  Is conferencing supported?

4) what other voice features are supported?

5) What carriers do you use for termination to PSTN? What are the costs to you?

6) How does the voice call affect the load on the phone?

thank you
nr

Well we don't terminate at PSTN yet....but I will need to look up Codec & signaling in the doc's.  Can you remind me tmmr i'm a zombie at the moment....long day  ;)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: nxtrules on September 14, 2014, 08:15:07 pm
np..take rest ;)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 14, 2014, 10:51:51 pm
Look, now your are place 5!

http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 14, 2014, 11:28:48 pm
Others have beaten me to saying it: it's only as big a problem as we make it. Let's get back to work.

@ Can the Nxtty chart on the SAE be brought up to date?

@ At this second, you must click 'View All' to find Nxtty (32).

@ Those Who Don't Remember CMC before The Asterisks:

this section is for those who don't understand 'The Asterisks Thing.' You can PM me, and I will patiently explain. In brief, this is a standing dispute; and CMC 'solved' it months ago by putting an asterisk beside 'non-mineable' coins.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: trollstocker on September 15, 2014, 12:11:01 am
Look, now your are place 5!

http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/

i wonder how many cheap coins daytraders picked up last night?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 15, 2014, 01:52:35 am
Look, now your are place 5!

http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/

i wonder how many cheap coins daytraders picked up last night?

Hope twinnerd got his cut.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TwinWinNerD on September 15, 2014, 01:59:27 am
Look, now your are place 5!

http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/

i wonder how many cheap coins daytraders picked up last night?

Hope twinnerd got his cut.


Because he's the hero Nxtforum deserves, but not the one it needs right now.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: stone on September 15, 2014, 02:24:01 am
NSA-proof encryption exists. Why doesn’t anyone use it?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/14/nsa-proof-encryption-exists-why-doesnt-anyone-use-it/?wprss=rss_ezra-klein
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: trollstocker on September 15, 2014, 03:15:17 am
Look, now your are place 5!

http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/

i wonder how many cheap coins daytraders picked up last night?

Hope twinnerd got his cut.


I think the real booty was in nxt..nxtty went down on small volume but NXt chart followed nxtty almost to a tee..looks like a group circle jerk to me..

Boy i am glad twinnerd saved us from the boogy man.

his timing was sure great..Charts don't lie
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: trollstocker on September 15, 2014, 03:22:15 am
Look, now your are place 5!

http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/

i wonder how many cheap coins daytraders picked up last night?

Hope twinnerd got his cut.


Because he's the hero Nxtforum deserves, but not the one it needs right now.

I got a question for ya twinwin

Why did you wait till Nxtty rose to almost it's peak yesterday to warn us of the marketcap issue?
and why didn't you bring it up a long time ago?
TIA
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 15, 2014, 03:57:33 am
Look, now your are place 5!

http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/
Why are you still here? You have succeeded in your mission.

Go find another asset to play with. Or go promote your precious NAS.

You promoted NAS, because you had many of them right? You spammed the whole forum about it. But you didn't have any Nxtty. So you have to troll.

This is really shameful. I can only smile and laugh. But please. Continue. Rofl.

Ps. I never feed trolls. But I couldn't resist this very moment.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 15, 2014, 05:06:46 am
NSA-proof encryption exists. Why doesn’t anyone use it?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/14/nsa-proof-encryption-exists-why-doesnt-anyone-use-it/?wprss=rss_ezra-klein

Stone does it again....well it's not difficult for us to add features  :D.


Well this is our opportunity.


Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 15, 2014, 08:30:37 am
Can we get some feedback on the website its very preliminary and is undergoing work.

http://nxtty.com/nxt/index.html


Please test on mobile as most users will visit using mobiles/tablets.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: KarlKarlsson on September 15, 2014, 08:40:19 am
I have invested in Nxtty myself and really like the app, good job so far lando!

The discussion in this thread about the market capitalization is hilarious. Twin is absolutely right - the starting page of coinmarketcap.com is ordered by available supply. The 80% Nxttycoin which are held in escrow by the foundation are not tradeable on the market and therefore not available.

He could have handled the situation smoother and not just given notice to CMC but he was absolutely right. Please don't spam this thread any further with this discussion.

Karl
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: zuqka on September 15, 2014, 08:43:16 am
Can we get some feedback on the website its very preliminary and is undergoing work.

http://nxtty.com/nxt/index.html


Please test on mobile as most users will visit using mobiles/tablets.

Viewed on desktop and mobile (android/lg g2). Clean and smooth. Keep it simple
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: swartzfeger on September 15, 2014, 08:44:54 am
Can we get some feedback on the website its very preliminary and is undergoing work.

http://nxtty.com/nxt/index.html (http://nxtty.com/nxt/index.html)


Please test on mobile as most users will visit using mobiles/tablets.

iTunes/Android store links don't work (you probably knew that).

The FAQ "Why should I trust you?" answer needs to be cleaned up (please is abbreviated as Pls, no link to repository code)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 15, 2014, 08:47:11 am
Can we get some feedback on the website its very preliminary and is undergoing work.

http://nxtty.com/nxt/index.html (http://nxtty.com/nxt/index.html)


Please test on mobile as most users will visit using mobiles/tablets.

iTunes/Android store links don't work (you probably knew that).

The FAQ "Why should I trust you?" answer needs to be cleaned up (please is abbreviated as Pls, no link to repository code)

Done, pls recheck it.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 15, 2014, 08:58:14 am
Can we get some feedback on the website its very preliminary and is undergoing work.

http://nxtty.com/nxt/index.html


Please test on mobile as most users will visit using mobiles/tablets.

Will make some changes with Photoshop. Same as usual  ;) Minor Major changes.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 15, 2014, 09:06:55 am
Can we get some feedback on the website its very preliminary and is undergoing work.

http://nxtty.com/nxt/index.html


Please test on mobile as most users will visit using mobiles/tablets.

Will make some changes with Photoshop. Same as usual  ;) Minor changes.

Ok great.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: stone on September 15, 2014, 10:00:22 am
NSA-proof encryption exists. Why doesn’t anyone use it?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/06/14/nsa-proof-encryption-exists-why-doesnt-anyone-use-it/?wprss=rss_ezra-klein

Stone does it again....well it's not difficult for us to add features  :D.


Well this is our opportunity.

As recently exposed some security issues, the future security needs will become increasingly intense, encrypted communication potential.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: allwelder on September 15, 2014, 10:38:33 am
Can we get some feedback on the website its very preliminary and is undergoing work.

http://nxtty.com/nxt/index.html


Please test on mobile as most users will visit using mobiles/tablets.
Shared. (http://weibo.com/nxtty)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: wesley on September 15, 2014, 11:04:18 am
How exactly does this use Nxt? You say it uses the "Nxt cryptographic system", but Nxt simply uses AES encryption, which is available in many libraries. So what is it that is required to be used from Nxt?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 15, 2014, 11:43:34 am
How exactly does this use Nxt? You say it uses the "Nxt cryptographic system", but Nxt simply uses AES encryption, which is available in many libraries. So what is it that is required to be used from Nxt?

It uses "every part" of Nxt except AM.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 15, 2014, 11:48:02 am
Can we get some feedback on the website its very preliminary and is undergoing work.

http://nxtty.com/nxt/index.html


Please test on mobile as most users will visit using mobiles/tablets.

Will make some changes with Photoshop. Same as usual  ;) Minor changes.

Ok great.
I can make the website look better and have some ideas, but unfortunately it has to wait for a couple of days.

You know why ;) great news for me today.

Ps. I just read that Whatsapp will release a Call function soon.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: wesley on September 15, 2014, 12:03:12 pm
How exactly does this use Nxt? You say it uses the "Nxt cryptographic system", but Nxt simply uses AES encryption, which is available in many libraries. So what is it that is required to be used from Nxt?

It uses "every part" of Nxt except AM.

Please explain further.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bitcoinpaul on September 15, 2014, 12:20:23 pm
How exactly does this use Nxt? You say it uses the "Nxt cryptographic system", but Nxt simply uses AES encryption, which is available in many libraries. So what is it that is required to be used from Nxt?

It uses "every part" of Nxt except AM.

Please explain further.

I assume they use their own Nxt servers for managing the nxtty user's Nxt accounts (for assets and other stuff) but the messages will be handled by their own messaging servers. Uh, this is so great. Worth millions of dollars.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 15, 2014, 12:26:24 pm
How exactly does this use Nxt? You say it uses the "Nxt cryptographic system", but Nxt simply uses AES encryption, which is available in many libraries. So what is it that is required to be used from Nxt?

It uses "every part" of Nxt except AM.

Please explain further.

I assume they use their own Nxt servers for managing the nxtty user's Nxt accounts (for assets and other stuff) but the messages will be handled by their own messaging servers. Uh, this is so great. Worth millions of dollars.
You understand that it would cost 1 NXT per message of they used AM as well right?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bitcoinpaul on September 15, 2014, 12:37:50 pm
How exactly does this use Nxt? You say it uses the "Nxt cryptographic system", but Nxt simply uses AES encryption, which is available in many libraries. So what is it that is required to be used from Nxt?

It uses "every part" of Nxt except AM.

Please explain further.

I assume they use their own Nxt servers for managing the nxtty user's Nxt accounts (for assets and other stuff) but the messages will be handled by their own messaging servers. Uh, this is so great. Worth millions of dollars.
You understand that it would cost 1 NXT per message of they used AM as well right?

?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: mikesbmw on September 15, 2014, 12:45:47 pm
How exactly does this use Nxt? You say it uses the "Nxt cryptographic system", but Nxt simply uses AES encryption, which is available in many libraries. So what is it that is required to be used from Nxt?

It uses "every part" of Nxt except AM.
Landomata: don't you see that by giving these evasive non-descriptive answers you only get more questions? And by not explaining things clearly you are making people even more weary too invest...

Please explain how it uses "every part" of the current NXT blockchain.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 15, 2014, 12:47:36 pm

You understand that it would cost 1 NXT per message of they used AM as well right?

Also 2 minute wait just to get a message....i'm sure that would be competitive in the market.


Hey Paul why don't you spend your time some place else.


Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bitcoinpaul on September 15, 2014, 12:48:18 pm
but the messages will be handled by their own messaging servers
You understand that it would cost 1 NXT per message of they used AM as well right?

?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 15, 2014, 12:48:56 pm
How exactly does this use Nxt? You say it uses the "Nxt cryptographic system", but Nxt simply uses AES encryption, which is available in many libraries. So what is it that is required to be used from Nxt?

It uses "every part" of Nxt except AM.
Landomata: don't you see that by giving these evasive non-descriptive answers you only get more questions? And by not explaining things clearly you are making people even more weary too invest...

Please explain how it uses "every part" of the current NXT blockchain.

How clear can I be....we use "EVERY PART" of NXT SOFTWARE except Arbitrary message feature.

I can't make it more clear than that.....as I said soo many time we DON'T STORE MESSAGES ON NXT BLOCKCHAIN.


Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: valarmg on September 15, 2014, 12:49:47 pm

It uses "every part" of Nxt except AM.

Every Part? Does it use the Nxt MarketPlace, does it use the Nxt leasing? I don't understand this answer.

Also, on the FAQ on the website, you said that Nxtty secure because it's based on Nxt opensource software. I don't see how that makes sense. I could write software that steals the money in people's accounts using Nxt API calls. Just because something is based on using Nxt doesn't make it secure.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 15, 2014, 12:52:08 pm

It uses "every part" of Nxt except AM.

Every Part? Does it use the Nxt MarketPlace, does it use the Nxt leasing? I don't understand this answer.


We can use Nxt Marketplace & Nxt leasing if we want.

Why do you think we are able to transfer Nxttycoin to our users....pls tell me on which blockchain Nxttycoin resides.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bitcoinpaul on September 15, 2014, 12:53:47 pm
but the messages will be handled by their own messaging servers
You understand that it would cost 1 NXT per message of they used AM as well right?

?

Tell us, landomata, what Fatih didn't get here.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 15, 2014, 12:55:00 pm
but the messages will be handled by their own messaging servers
You understand that it would cost 1 NXT per message of they used AM as well right?

?

Tell us, landomata, what Fatih or I might didn't get here.

A, B, C, .....it means we can use any feature of Nxt we want, we just chose NOT to use AM because it is not economical.


Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bitcoinpaul on September 15, 2014, 12:56:08 pm
So what's wrong with my post?

I assume they use their own Nxt servers for managing the nxtty user's Nxt accounts (for assets and other stuff) but the messages will be handled by their own messaging servers.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: chanc3r on September 15, 2014, 12:56:45 pm
How exactly does this use Nxt? You say it uses the "Nxt cryptographic system", but Nxt simply uses AES encryption, which is available in many libraries. So what is it that is required to be used from Nxt?

It uses "every part" of Nxt except AM.
Landomata: don't you see that by giving these evasive non-descriptive answers you only get more questions? And by not explaining things clearly you are making people even more weary too invest...

Please explain how it uses "every part" of the current NXT blockchain.

How clear can I be....we use "EVERY PART" of NXT SOFTWARE except Arbitrary message feature.

I can't make it more clear than that.....as I said soo many time we DON'T STORE MESSAGES ON NXT BLOCKCHAIN.

Tell me when MGW passed this hurdle?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 15, 2014, 01:05:38 pm

Tell me when MGW passed this hurdle?

If the question is directed to me, I have no idea.

But I know I spent 4 months back and forth with CFB to understand service provider feature that BCNext built into Nxt.

CFB was surely fed up with me at times for asking so many questions.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bitcoinpaul on September 15, 2014, 01:06:45 pm
Landomata, is this correct?

I assume they use their own Nxt servers for managing the nxtty user's Nxt accounts (for assets and other stuff) but the messages will be handled by their own messaging servers.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 15, 2014, 01:09:40 pm
Landomata, is this correct?

I assume they use their own Nxt servers for managing the nxtty user's Nxt accounts (for assets and other stuff) but the messages will be handled by their own messaging servers.

You decide if it is.

Your on my ignore list from this moment onwards.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bitcoinpaul on September 15, 2014, 01:10:38 pm
Landomata, is this correct?

I assume they use their own Nxt servers for managing the nxtty user's Nxt accounts (for assets and other stuff) but the messages will be handled by their own messaging servers.

You decide if it is.

Your on my ignore list from this moment onwards.

You sound like bluemeanie ;)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: wesley on September 15, 2014, 01:13:03 pm
Landomata, is this correct?

I assume they use their own Nxt servers for managing the nxtty user's Nxt accounts (for assets and other stuff) but the messages will be handled by their own messaging servers.

You decide if it is.

Your on my ignore list from this moment onwards.

What's wrong with this question? I'd like to know also.

What functionality does nxtty use _at this point in time_ from Nxt?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 15, 2014, 01:19:02 pm
Landomata, is this correct?

I assume they use their own Nxt servers for managing the nxtty user's Nxt accounts (for assets and other stuff) but the messages will be handled by their own messaging servers.

You decide if it is.

Your on my ignore list from this moment onwards.

What's wrong with this question? I'd like to know also.

What functionality does nxtty use _at this point in time_ from Nxt?

Nxtty is the same as your client....except we do not make use of arbitrary message API calls.

We call our own server network instead of NXT Arbitrary Message API.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bitcoinpaul on September 15, 2014, 01:22:49 pm

Nxtty is the same as your client....except we do not make use of arbitrary message API calls.

We call our own server network instead of Arbitrary Message API calls.


I assume they use their own Nxt servers for managing the nxtty user's Nxt accounts (for assets and other stuff) but the messages will be handled by their own messaging servers. Uh, this is so great. Worth millions of dollars.

(http://kep.cdn.index.hu/1/0/547/5472/54724/5472442_8dffbe8b77621b51dc0ded26bd8c1ba3_wm.gif)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: v39453 on September 15, 2014, 01:23:18 pm
Also 2 minute wait just to get a message....i'm sure that would be competitive in the market.

It's just seconds to receive a message. I haven't heard of a reason to wait for confirmations when receiving a message.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: gs02xzz on September 15, 2014, 01:23:25 pm
How exactly does this use Nxt? You say it uses the "Nxt cryptographic system", but Nxt simply uses AES encryption, which is available in many libraries. So what is it that is required to be used from Nxt?
It uses "every part" of Nxt except AM.

Besides Nxttycoin asset which is using the Nxt platform(AE), does a Nxtty mobile communication app user have to be a Nxt user (own a Nxt account and NXT) to be able to use the Nxtty mobile communication function?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bitcoinpaul on September 15, 2014, 01:24:59 pm
Besides Nxttycoin asset which is using the Nxt platform(AE), does a Nxtty mobile communication app user have to be a Nxt user (own a Nxt account and NXT) to be able to use the Nxtty mobile communication function?

He automatically becomes a Nxt user, but he doesn't know it.



So, dear investors, decide if you think this 'company', run by landomata only, deserves to be a multimillion dollar thing or not. When people cried in this thread how great and magically all of this is, they already invested in it. Plain simple.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 15, 2014, 01:35:41 pm
Also 2 minute wait just to get a message....i'm sure that would be competitive in the market.

It's just seconds to receive a message. I haven't heard of a reason to wait for confirmations when receiving a message.

Still too slow, our original messenger was using AM to send messages but we had to modify cuz it wasn't practical.

P.S, how many transactions can you fit inside a block? you need to fund each account sending messages.

Plus the problem of Blockchain bloat....Nxtty send images upto 4 mb in size.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: crumb-bum on September 15, 2014, 01:40:54 pm
What all this excitement suggests is that the time is ripe for somebody, some company, to come along and create an anonymous messaging + phone + social network system. It would be natural for that company to exploit block chain technology, and I think NXT is perfectly suited to the task. Whether or not nxtty is that company is a matter for speculation. I hope it is but have some doubts.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: v39453 on September 15, 2014, 01:44:12 pm
Also 2 minute wait just to get a message....i'm sure that would be competitive in the market.

It's just seconds to receive a message. I haven't heard of a reason to wait for confirmations when receiving a message.

Still too slow, our original messenger was using AM to send messages but we had to modify cuz it wasn't practical.

Based on your quoted message it sounds like you were waiting for confirmations.

I don't see why using the Nxt p2p network would be significantly slower than using your own servers.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: trollstocker on September 15, 2014, 01:52:05 pm
Besides Nxttycoin asset which is using the Nxt platform(AE), does a Nxtty mobile communication app user have to be a Nxt user (own a Nxt account and NXT) to be able to use the Nxtty mobile communication function?

He automatically becomes a Nxt user, but he doesn't know it.





So, dear investors, decide if you think this 'company', run by landomata only, deserves to be a multimillion dollar thing or not. When people cried in this thread how great and magically all of this is, they already invested in it. Plain simple.

Please don't stop! i just got more cheap nxtty!!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 15, 2014, 01:57:06 pm
Also 2 minute wait just to get a message....i'm sure that would be competitive in the market.

It's just seconds to receive a message. I haven't heard of a reason to wait for confirmations when receiving a message.

Still too slow, our original messenger was using AM to send messages but we had to modify cuz it wasn't practical.

Based on your quoted message it sounds like you were waiting for confirmations.

I don't see why using the Nxt p2p network would be significantly slower than using your own servers.

The messaging is the easy part....hard part is managing the fees.

Without Nxt in your account you can't even send a message.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: chanc3r on September 15, 2014, 01:57:58 pm
Rather than this understand NXTTY by 20 questions...

Lando - will you commit to a whitepaper on NXTTY and when can we have it?

There are a lot of shareholders which are interested and if as good as implied publication will only improve the value of the investment.

Ian
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: gs02xzz on September 15, 2014, 01:59:23 pm
What all this excitement suggests is that the time is ripe for somebody, some company, to come along and create an anonymous messaging + phone + social network system. It would be natural for that company to exploit block chain technology, and I think NXT is perfectly suited to the task. Whether or not nxtty is that company is a matter for speculation. I hope it is but have some doubts.

Do you mean something like this - https://silentcircle.com/
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: trollstocker on September 15, 2014, 02:04:10 pm
What all this excitement suggests is that the time is ripe for somebody, some company, to come along and create an anonymous messaging + phone + social network system. It would be natural for that company to exploit block chain technology, and I think NXT is perfectly suited to the task. Whether or not nxtty is that company is a matter for speculation. I hope it is but have some doubts.

Do you mean something like this - https://silentcircle.com/

People don't like to pay when they can get it free plus i don't see a coin with silentcircle
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Come-from-Beyond on September 15, 2014, 02:45:10 pm
It's just seconds to receive a message. I haven't heard of a reason to wait for confirmations when receiving a message.

Timestamping messages. They need to be included into a block before considered valid. U even need 10 confirmations for them, like for ordinary payments.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Pilot on September 15, 2014, 03:37:20 pm
What all this excitement suggests is that the time is ripe for somebody, some company, to come along and create an anonymous messaging + phone + social network system. It would be natural for that company to exploit block chain technology, and I think NXT is perfectly suited to the task. Whether or not nxtty is that company is a matter for speculation. I hope it is but have some doubts.

Ever heard of https://crypto.cat/.

Rule number one of business and investing, know your competition.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: gs02xzz on September 15, 2014, 04:05:55 pm
Ever heard of https://crypto.cat/.
Rule number one of business and investing, know your competition.

What is crypto.cat different from bitmessage? - https://bitmessage.org/wiki/Main_Page
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 15, 2014, 04:10:39 pm
Ever heard of https://crypto.cat/.
Rule number one of business and investing, know your competition.

What is crypto.cat different from bitmessage? - https://bitmessage.org/wiki/Main_Page

I've used cryptocat, its clunky chrome extension. A good idea yes, but not practical, mobile, or based on NXT
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: ChuckOne on September 15, 2014, 04:11:28 pm
I've used cryptocat, its clunky chrome extension. A good idea yes, but not practical, mobile, or based on NXT

I marked the important blocker. :D
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Pilot on September 15, 2014, 04:46:43 pm
Ever heard of https://crypto.cat/.
Rule number one of business and investing, know your competition.

What is crypto.cat different from bitmessage? - https://bitmessage.org/wiki/Main_Page

I've used cryptocat, its clunky chrome extension. A good idea yes, but not practical, mobile, or based on NXT

Not sure what you are reading. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cryptocat/id784085689?ls=1&mt=8

That said, it isn't "based on NXT". That's true. But, I'm not convinced "based on NXT" is going to sell Nxtty to the general public. I still don't see what is going to grow this app in general use. Gems for example has a coin behind it and a plan to spread use of the app by offering Gems for people that get more users to use it.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 15, 2014, 06:46:32 pm
Ever heard of https://crypto.cat/.
Rule number one of business and investing, know your competition.

What is crypto.cat different from bitmessage? - https://bitmessage.org/wiki/Main_Page

I've used cryptocat, its clunky chrome extension. A good idea yes, but not practical, mobile, or based on NXT

Not sure what you are reading. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cryptocat/id784085689?ls=1&mt=8

That said, it isn't "based on NXT". That's true. But, I'm not convinced "based on NXT" is going to sell Nxtty to the general public. I still don't see what is going to grow this app in general use. Gems for example has a coin behind it and a plan to spread use of the app by offering Gems for people that get more users to use it.

NXTTYcoin -> Nxtty ....seems like Nxtty has a coin behind it too.

Based on Nxt was never our USP....99% of our users will have never heard of crypto much less Nxt.


That's why we released our beta into the market to get realistic feedback and ideas from actual users.

We gain a lot of insights about what real users want.

And one thing is very very clear they don't want ads in their face.




Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 15, 2014, 07:26:29 pm

We gain a lot of insights about what real users want.

And one thing is very very clear they don't want ads in their face.

Well done! Great to do some research first for sure. This is how killer apps are built. :D

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: nxtrules on September 15, 2014, 07:31:49 pm
Just a reminder Landomata
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 15, 2014, 08:21:04 pm
Just a reminder Landomata

Can you please PM me, so that I will have it in my face. I need to pull the information from the official developer document and it's not an easy read.

I promise 100% you will get the information.

I just gotta go thru the doc and pick out the details you are asking for.




Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 15, 2014, 08:26:18 pm
GIF's in OPEN CHAT!  ;D


Man that's gonna be fun.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 15, 2014, 08:37:45 pm
GIF's in OPEN CHAT!  ;D


Man that's gonna be fun.

YES!

(http://cdn0.dailydot.com/uploaded/images/original/2013/1/16/meirene.gif)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: nxtrules on September 15, 2014, 08:40:47 pm

Just a reminder Landomata

Can you please PM me, so that I will have it in my face. I need to pull the information from the official developer document and it's not an easy read.

I promise 100% you will get the information.

I just gotta go thru the doc and pick out the details you are asking for.

Done
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 16, 2014, 01:36:58 am
GIF's in OPEN CHAT!  ;D


Man that's gonna be fun.
Bitcoinpaul cannot resist now. He has to download it.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 16, 2014, 04:26:03 am
Teaser press release:

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/what-is-nxttycoin-275112721.html
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: nxtrules on September 16, 2014, 04:38:03 am
+1
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: cryptedxypher on September 16, 2014, 05:07:11 am
I don't like how the likes on your facebook page is completely botted and the comments are paid for. It doesn't take a genius to see how the majority of your likes are from Jakarta, Indonesia. Marketers from way back in 2011 used to play such games to make their product seem validated in front of the general public - but anyone would understand you're just being an artist  trying to deceive people.

Focus on the product, ship it great and you will see the likes coming in.

That said, I still don't find why this is so hyped here as its got almost nothing to do with the coins.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 16, 2014, 05:15:04 am
I don't like how the likes on your facebook page is completely botted and the comments are paid for. It doesn't take a genius to see how the majority of your likes are from Jakarta, Indonesia. Marketers from way back in 2011 used to play such games to make their product seem validated in front of the general public - but anyone would understand you're just being an artist  trying to deceive people.

Focus on the product, ship it great and you will see the likes coming in.

That said, I still don't find why this is so hyped here as its got almost nothing to do with the coins.

Most of our fans are from India.

That's our intention build a great product, you can test the product as well if you like.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: cryptedxypher on September 16, 2014, 05:39:12 am
https: // www. facebook. com/pages/Nxtty/645168825569486?sk=likes (remove spaces)
I would appreciate it if you bull-shitted less.
Am from India myself and have a very good idea of the start-up ecosystem here and noone's remotely close to talking about this project.
That said, let me know if I can help you in any way. 
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 16, 2014, 05:50:57 am
http://www.socialbakers.com/facebook-pages/645168825569486-nxtty/in-india

#   Country   Local Fans   % of Fan Base
          
1    India   9109   57.2 %
2    Mauritius   1723   10.8 %
3    Philippines   1052   6.6 %
4    Maldives   838   5.3 %
5    Indonesia   516   3.2 %
6    Dominican Republic   363   2.3 %
7    Jamaica   357   2.2 %
8    Guyana   333   2.1 %
9    Malaysia   164   1.0 %
10    South Africa   151   0.9 %
11    United States   109   0.7 %
12    Trinidad and Tobago   93   0.6 %
13    Barbados   58   0.4 %
14    United Arab Emirates   33   0.2 %
15    Germany   29   0.2 %
16    United Kingdom   25   0.2 %

#numbers are a day old but you can get the clear picture.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: cryptedxypher on September 16, 2014, 05:55:44 am
with all due respect

1 Why would I trust an external source when facebook shows the likes are from Jakarta, Indonesia?
2 . I've seen a major chunk of India and I know the local lingo , surnames and way of talking. None of those people commenting on your page are Indians
3. If you really did spark that high an interest - you will appear somewhere in the play store (presuming you launched) - but it hasn't
4. we are now wasting time , I respect your work  - just don't bullshit me regarding your social media.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 16, 2014, 06:01:51 am
with all due respect

1 Why would I trust an external source when facebook shows the likes are from Jakarta, Indonesia?
2 . I've seen a major chunk of India and I know the local lingo , surnames and way of talking. None of those people commenting on your page are Indians
3. If you really did spark that high an interest - you will appear somewhere in the play store (presuming you launched) - but it hasn't
4. we are now wasting time , I respect your work  - just don't bullshit me regarding your social media.

FACEBOOK: (copy paste from inside my "insights" page.)

Country: Your Fans
India
9,109
Mauritius
1,723
Philippines
1,052
Maldives
838
Indonesia
516
Dominican Republic
363
Jamaica
357
Guyana
333
Malaysia
164
South Africa
151

City: Your Fans

Male, Maldives
763
Port Louis, Mauritius
484
Chennai, Tamil Nadu, India
310
Georgetown, Demerara-Mahaica, Guyana
286
New Delhi, Delhi, India
283
Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh, India
259
Mumbai, Maharashtra, India
231
Calcutta, West Bengal, India
216
Bangalore, Karnataka, India
210
Kingston, Saint Andrew, Jamaica
177
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: swartzfeger on September 16, 2014, 06:08:11 am
with all due respect

Drop the pretense. You already claimed he was deceiving people and full of bullshit. Wrapping yourself in a mantle of civility now just comes off as disingenuous.

Are you still offering your 'help' with the Nxtty project? :D
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: cryptedxypher on September 16, 2014, 06:15:05 am


1. Countries like India rank high on bots when it comes to social media accounts. Hence - your post proves further that you used bots
2. User interaction is highest for countries where marketing is bat shit cheap. Am sure you marketed your product via paid advertising to nations where its cheapest to market.

Give me a logical explanation as to WHY Indian's have been liking (uhm .. they haven't )
Give me a logical explanation as to why - Indonesians are in love with your product (except for the fact that you've been hosting fake competitions and pissing them off - read their comments)

Read these too
http:// www. searchenginejournal.com/facebook -ads-what-are-you-really-paying-for/46194/
http:/ /www.j onloomer.com/2012/07/22/faceboo k-advertising-fake-profiles/


I do respect the coder for his work. Developing something like this requires dedication and skill. however, it remains my right to hold an opinion and question him on something I find wrong.
My offer to "help" still remains as I believe in collaborating.

Hope I've helped you.

If you ARE  spending money on these likes - please utilize it properly and market towards the right bunch and not the wrong crowds.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 16, 2014, 06:28:06 am
Twitter rankings are a bit different...I think it's:

1) South Africa
2) USA
3) UK
4) Israel
5) Canada

i'll search out the numbers.

I think New York is the leading city.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: cryptedxypher on September 16, 2014, 07:23:26 am
Twitter works in a different fashion.
I'll take your lack of response to my questions as an agreement to what I'd stated.
Am glad you've decided to look into the matter at the very least
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: shin on September 16, 2014, 07:25:30 am
Cryptedxypher, I am really curious to why getting likes from Jakarta, Indonesia is such a scary sight to you? Do you maybe have a skewed perception about this city/country in terms of use of technology in media and communication?

Allow me to give you a glimpse of a picture of what's going on there:
- 12th spot in the global ranking of Internet users,
- 60 million mobile users last year, predicted to be 125 millions by 2017,
- 80% of mobile users spent 38 minutes for chatting, surpassing browsing time,
- 73% of mobile users spent about 23 minutes a day using BBM,
- BBM is still a top player,
- 57 and 30 percent of users used WhatsApp and LINE for only six minutes and five minutes a day, respectively,
- Other chat applications, such as WeChat, Kakao Talk and Facebook Messenger, were only used by between 7 and 28%.

BUT, these numbers are changing. WhatsApp and LINE become more and more popular. Most mobile users are in the possession of more than 1 mobile devices; remember pre-BMM app on Android time? people would have 2 mobile phones just so they can keep in touch with as much friends as possible.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: cryptedxypher on September 16, 2014, 07:30:13 am
I am not pulling a tantrum on the fact that countries from East Asia are liking this page.
I am an asian myself and I know for one the fact that these countries can be a game-changer when it comes to pushing an app or service towards mainstream adoption.


What I "am" trying to prove though, is that these likes and comments are not legit/valuable.
Anyone with their experience in social media will know what I've been trying to prove.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Mexxer on September 16, 2014, 07:43:09 am
It's not a scary sight ... it's a suspicious sight. Everybody who knows a thing or two about social media knows that most of the bots usually come from those places. I've raised this thought in this thread before that their facebook activity might be fake.
It just makes no sense what so ever that an app which is neither in the appstore nor in the playstore has that many fans already. You would at least expect a startup with that kind of fame in those countries to be featured in a lot of tech blogs. Haven't found anything. And haven't found some big media campaign aimed at those countries to justify the numbers.

Of course, I can't prove it. But the suspicion is there and landomatas short, empty responses without really adressing any points cryptedxypher made just strengthened that suspicion.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: shin on September 16, 2014, 07:51:09 am
Hmm... alright. Sorry for ignoring your motive. Maybe, I'll take a look at those likes.

But, I can give you one reason as to why "Indonesians are in love with your product". After the Australia-Indonesia wiretapping drama (we are talking about president's direct communication line, right here!): Indonesia is now perceived as a country that is very prone to wiretapping operations and that is easy to be ashamed of. This is because no serious action is taken by the government.

A number of ministers has become a victim too. This is a problem not only to high officials but celebrities and common folks too; there are a lot of private media and information leaked! But, then again, which country doesn't have this issue? :S
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: wesley on September 16, 2014, 07:58:29 am
It's not a scary sight ... it's a suspicious sight. Everybody who knows a thing or two about social media knows that most of the bots usually come from those places. I've raised this thought in this thread before that their facebook activity might be fake.
It just makes no sense what so ever that an app which is neither in the appstore nor in the playstore has that many fans already. You would at least expect a startup with that kind of fame in those countries to be featured in a lot of tech blogs. Haven't found anything. And haven't found some big media campaign aimed at those countries to justify the numbers.

Of course, I can't prove it. But the suspicion is there and landomatas short, empty responses without really adressing any points cryptedxypher made just strengthened that suspicion.

+1

How exactly did you get these likes, if there are no tech blogs in india that are featuring you? Customers can't just "find" you out of the blue.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 16, 2014, 08:03:06 am
It's not a scary sight ... it's a suspicious sight. Everybody who knows a thing or two about social media knows that most of the bots usually come from those places. I've raised this thought in this thread before that their facebook activity might be fake.
It just makes no sense what so ever that an app which is neither in the appstore nor in the playstore has that many fans already. You would at least expect a startup with that kind of fame in those countries to be featured in a lot of tech blogs. Haven't found anything. And haven't found some big media campaign aimed at those countries to justify the numbers.

Of course, I can't prove it. But the suspicion is there and landomatas short, empty responses without really adressing any points cryptedxypher made just strengthened that suspicion.

Did you not see the link I provided above plus the insight numbers from Facebook.

I think I will post the screen shots of my panel then to allay these fears.





Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: cryptedxypher on September 16, 2014, 08:05:11 am
Those insights are not a true measure of your likes.
Its the comments/activity on your page that actually matters.

There's a post on your page with 20k likes when your entire page had all of 15k likes - and am dead sure you didn't have all that much viral activity going on , judging by the number of likes.
Also - please! I handle PR for a number of major projects and I know every news outlet here quite closely and I can ASSURE you - that previous post / PR release will NOT do whats needed to get you 15k likes.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 16, 2014, 08:05:35 am
It's not a scary sight ... it's a suspicious sight. Everybody who knows a thing or two about social media knows that most of the bots usually come from those places. I've raised this thought in this thread before that their facebook activity might be fake.
It just makes no sense what so ever that an app which is neither in the appstore nor in the playstore has that many fans already. You would at least expect a startup with that kind of fame in those countries to be featured in a lot of tech blogs. Haven't found anything. And haven't found some big media campaign aimed at those countries to justify the numbers.

Of course, I can't prove it. But the suspicion is there and landomatas short, empty responses without really adressing any points cryptedxypher made just strengthened that suspicion.

+1

How exactly did you get these likes, if there are no tech blogs in india that are featuring you? Customers can't just "find" you out of the blue.

We actual published our 1st blog post in India 2 months ago....plus did our 1st interview.


Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: cryptedxypher on September 16, 2014, 08:08:29 am
Link me to it and I'll give you reasons why that statement too is bull shit :)
Can't be bothered digging through 30 pages of responses.

Again, now am calling you out because you haven't backed yourself AT ALL.
If the community here still respects you and thinks your social media was awesome  - I can't help but pray to god almighty to bless these folks.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 16, 2014, 08:09:20 am
Those insights are not a true measure of your likes.
Its the comments/activity on your page that actually matters.

There's a post on your page with 20k likes when your entire page had all of 15k likes - and am dead sure you didn't have all that much viral activity going on , judging by the number of likes.
Also - please! I handle PR for a number of major projects and I know every news outlet here quite closely and I can ASSURE you - that previous post / PR release will NOT do whats needed to get you 15k likes.

Well that is actually what we have tracking from the beginning the Engagement index provided by Social Baker and our score is over 50% on an average day.

All we care about is engagement...that's all that matters.


Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: wesley on September 16, 2014, 08:11:59 am
Actually there is this pic that has more than 30,000 likes:

https://www.facebook.com/645168825569486/photos/a.650530295033339.1073741828.645168825569486/715976335155401/?type=1&theater

Now obviously this is fake, it's best if you just admit to that and move on.

The pic also has a bunch of  insightful comments like "wow, amazing", "nice pic", "wow", "i like it", etc...
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 16, 2014, 08:12:05 am
Link me to it and I'll give you reasons why that statement too is bull shit :)
Can't be bothered digging through 30 pages of responses.

Again, now am calling you out because you haven't backed yourself AT ALL.
If the community here still respects you and thinks your social media was awesome  - I can't help but pray to god almighty to bless these folks.

 :D  wow ur a funny guy.

Pls find link below explain this one:
https://www.facebook.com/645168825569486/photos/pb.645168825569486.-2207520000.1410855077./702658846487150/?type=3&theater

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: cryptedxypher on September 16, 2014, 08:14:09 am
https://www.facebook.com/645168825569486/photos/pb.645168825569486.-2207520000.1410855077./702658846487150/?type=3&theater

You do realize most of those accounts are banned?
Why ? because they are fake botted accounts.

Am I talking to a rock here?

(http://i.gyazo.com/b1355fc31eeb38c6202c6ec39a0ef459.png)
(http://i.gyazo.com/e49a7034bd6f0261fe10c80e6dbce2ac.png)
(http://i.gyazo.com/f07f2e6a8ebb0033ffd985f7b511706a.png)

Much wow! Such engagement
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 16, 2014, 08:17:10 am
https://www.facebook.com/645168825569486/photos/pb.645168825569486.-2207520000.1410855077./702658846487150/?type=3&theater

You do realize most of those accounts are banned?
Why ? because they are fake botted accounts.

Am I talking to a rock here?

Do you realize that I was the one who banned them cuz they were posting "SPAM".

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: wesley on September 16, 2014, 08:18:02 am
Is nxtty demographic 10 year old girls?

https://www.facebook.com/yayahshee.cwetomboys?fref=pb&hc_location=profile_browser
https://www.facebook.com/putri.wijaya.5682?fref=pb&hc_location=profile_browser
https://www.facebook.com/shasya.katily?fref=pb&hc_location=profile_browser
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006078256500&fref=pb&hc_location=profile_browser
https://www.facebook.com/susi.diantika.9?fref=pb&hc_location=profile_browser
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004291065758&fref=pb&hc_location=profile_browser
https://www.facebook.com/tetty.c.jutex?fref=pb&hc_location=profile_browser
https://www.facebook.com/fitriacyanx.dyaclaalu?fref=pb&hc_location=profile_browser

This is from some random clicking on who likes posts.

Again, just admit to it and move on. You may have a good product here, but it's obvious you bought the likes.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: cryptedxypher on September 16, 2014, 08:19:43 am
Man.. I came in peace, now I'll have to leave with pity.
Please - just admit you brought these likes. Life goes on and maybe those who had some respect for you might lose a bit of it - but life will go on and your e-dick will  stay .

Also you posting people (which btw runs into 300 or so in that single post) - won't stop me from seeing their accounts.
Such shit you talk buddy.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Mexxer on September 16, 2014, 08:21:27 am
+1

It's pretty obvious.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: valarmg on September 16, 2014, 08:22:23 am
You don't have to buy likes to end up with loads of bots. Buying authentic facebook advertising will see you end up with loads of fake likes.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: cryptedxypher on September 16, 2014, 08:24:02 am
You don't have to buy likes to end up with loads of bots. Buying authentic facebook advertising will see you end up with loads of fake likes.

I've mentioned this on multiple instances in my post. I haven't been trashing him at all. Its not my fault he wouldn't engage in an actual conversation
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 16, 2014, 08:24:40 am
Man.. I came in peace, now I'll have to leave with pity.
Please - just admit you brought these likes. Life goes on and maybe those who had some respect for you might lose a bit of it - but life will go on and your e-dick will  stay .

Also you posting people (which btw runs into 300 or so in that single post) - won't stop me from seeing their accounts.
Such shit you talk buddy.

 :D  ...it's so refreshing when someone accuses you of a wrong which you have not done.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 16, 2014, 08:25:22 am
You don't have to buy likes to end up with loads of bots. Buying authentic facebook advertising will see you end up with loads of fake likes.

I've mentioned this on multiple instances in my post. I haven't been trashing him at all. Its not my fault he wouldn't engage in an actual conversation

Can bots send you normal messages?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: cryptedxypher on September 16, 2014, 08:26:41 am
You don't have to buy likes to end up with loads of bots. Buying authentic facebook advertising will see you end up with loads of fake likes.

I've mentioned this on multiple instances in my post. I haven't been trashing him at all. Its not my fault he wouldn't engage in an actual conversation

Can bots send you normal messages?

I love how you haven't defended yourself in any  of your posts or responded to the administrator's query.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 16, 2014, 08:28:29 am
You don't have to buy likes to end up with loads of bots. Buying authentic facebook advertising will see you end up with loads of fake likes.

I have realized that you can't engage with everyone, I used to try but then many posters told me not to reply to every comment.  This was in May, so adjusted my strategy.


Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 16, 2014, 08:29:54 am
You don't have to buy likes to end up with loads of bots. Buying authentic facebook advertising will see you end up with loads of fake likes.

I've mentioned this on multiple instances in my post. I haven't been trashing him at all. Its not my fault he wouldn't engage in an actual conversation

Can bots send you normal messages?

I love how you haven't defended yourself in any  of your posts or responded to the administrator's query.

Because you accuse me of a wrong which I have not done and I will not accept that.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: wesley on September 16, 2014, 08:30:29 am
Well, I have said my peace. It is on the record. People can come back to this in a few months and see I did sent out a warning :)

All I can say now to anyone that wishes to invest, BE CAREFUL. Whilst the product may be OK, the promotion around it in my opinion is not.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: swartzfeger on September 16, 2014, 08:33:15 am

Also you posting people (which btw runs into 300 or so in that single post) - won't stop me from seeing their accounts.
Such shit you talk buddy.

I guess I don't get it (being a non(ex)-Facebook user)... is this some stunning revelation that these likes were bought? As if no one knew this by looking at a picture with 30k likes?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: wesley on September 16, 2014, 08:34:58 am

Also you posting people (which btw runs into 300 or so in that single post) - won't stop me from seeing their accounts.
Such shit you talk buddy.

I guess I don't get it (being a non(ex)-Facebook user)... is this some stunning revelation that these likes were bought? As if no one knew this by looking at a picture with 30k likes?

The fact that he won't admit it is the problem and makes him look (a little) shady imo.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 16, 2014, 08:36:55 am

Also you posting people (which btw runs into 300 or so in that single post) - won't stop me from seeing their accounts.
Such shit you talk buddy.

I guess I don't get it (being a non(ex)-Facebook user)... is this some stunning revelation that these likes were bought? As if no one knew this by looking at a picture with 30k likes?

The fact that he won't admit it is the problem and makes him look (a little) shady imo.

Admit what?  what's the use of buying likes?

What benefit does it do us?

It's a waste of money.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: shin on September 16, 2014, 08:37:32 am
Well, I have said my peace. It is on the record. People can come back to this in a few months and see I did sent out a warning :)

All I can say now to anyone that wishes to invest, BE CAREFUL. Whilst the product may be OK, the promotion around it in my opinion is not.
Yeah, it would be so sad to see a good product to use such promotion. :<

BUT Please people, if you have faith in this product, HODL your Nxttycoins. THERE ARE people eagerly trying to decrease (or correct?) the price to buy the Nxtty coins low!! It's just the way it is...
Do your research, listen to yourself, not others. Decide for yourself what the value of this product is. :)

The product, Nxtty messenger, is a good product though. It's interesting to see how this would take off and compete with the others ^^
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: valarmg on September 16, 2014, 08:38:28 am

Admit what?  what's the use of buying likes?

What benefit does it do us?

It's a waste of money.

Do you use face advertising to promote your page and your posts?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 16, 2014, 08:41:21 am

Admit what?  what's the use of buying likes?

What benefit does it do us?

It's a waste of money.

Do you use face advertising to promote your page and your posts?

1) Yes, we do market as any normal brand but we have never bought likes.


2) We don't do page promotion it does not work.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: swartzfeger on September 16, 2014, 09:04:00 am

Also you posting people (which btw runs into 300 or so in that single post) - won't stop me from seeing their accounts.
Such shit you talk buddy.

I guess I don't get it (being a non(ex)-Facebook user)... is this some stunning revelation that these likes were bought? As if no one knew this by looking at a picture with 30k likes?

The fact that he won't admit it is the problem and makes him look (a little) shady imo.

What seems shady to me is someone would go through the bother of creating an alt/new account to raise a stink about this, call landomata deceptive, and yet offer 'help'.

Am I living in Crazy World now where we offer to collaborate on a project where we accuse the leader of being willfully deceptive?

My issue here isn't people raising valid concerns, airing opinions, etc -- let's all fire away (civilly). My only gripe is a hint of condescension where we're all gullible hicks falling for bought likes. I'm excited about Nxtty because of the possibilities. Can anyone here raise a hand that bought Nxtty because some goofball picture on Facebook had 30k likes?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 16, 2014, 09:07:43 am

My issue here isn't people raising valid concerns, airing opinions, etc -- let's all fire away (civilly). My only gripe is a hint of condescension where we're all gullible hicks falling for bought likes. I'm excited about Nxtty because of the possibilities. Can anyone here raise a hand that bought Nxtty because some goofball picture on Facebook had 30k likes?

+1

I am here to answer any questions which you may have, I prefer in PM so I can provide you full details.

Please PM me anytime and if I don't response pls send me a reminder.


P.S. Please don't spam me...thanks.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: wesley on September 16, 2014, 09:13:57 am

My issue here isn't people raising valid concerns, airing opinions, etc -- let's all fire away (civilly). My only gripe is a hint of condescension where we're all gullible hicks falling for bought likes. I'm excited about Nxtty because of the possibilities. Can anyone here raise a hand that bought Nxtty because some goofball picture on Facebook had 30k likes?

+1

I am here to answer any questions which you may have, I prefer in PM so I can provide you full details.

Please PM me anytime and if I don't response pls send me a reminder.


P.S. Please don't spam me...thanks.

No, no one bought because of the 30K likes on a picture, but some did buy based on the number of likes and apparent popularity of the app on Facebook (in fact this is why this thread was started, see post #1).
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 16, 2014, 09:15:10 am

My issue here isn't people raising valid concerns, airing opinions, etc -- let's all fire away (civilly). My only gripe is a hint of condescension where we're all gullible hicks falling for bought likes. I'm excited about Nxtty because of the possibilities. Can anyone here raise a hand that bought Nxtty because some goofball picture on Facebook had 30k likes?

+1

I am here to answer any questions which you may have, I prefer in PM so I can provide you full details.

Please PM me anytime and if I don't response pls send me a reminder.


P.S. Please don't spam me...thanks.

No, no one bought because of the 30K likes on a picture, but some did buy based on the number of likes and apparent popularity of the app on Facebook (in fact this is why this thread was started, see post #1).

We raised a million Nxt before there was even a Facebook page.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: bitcoinpaul on September 16, 2014, 09:19:44 am

We I raised a million Nxt before there was even a Facebook page.

fify :-*
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TheCryptoWoman on September 16, 2014, 09:30:56 am
Advertising on Facebook can be as simple as promoting a story. One simply sets the amount of money they will spend and then chooses their demographic.

I have promoted stories on the Nxt Community Facebook page targeting to people who have said they are interested in Bitcoin, digital money, internet money, etc. This puts the story in their feeds. In no way does it compel them to like it. When a hard fork brings us a new service, I've targeted people who already like Nxt. Targeting in Facebook is extremely valuable as so many users freely express their interests on their profiles and in their posts.

In defense of Nxtty, the pool of people who for instance indicate they text a lot or already use Facebook Messenger or post about their phones, or any other demographic marker of interest to Nxtty is HUGE. And for a relatively small budget Nxtty could promote (legitimately advertise) a post to a targeted audience.

When I was in Indonesia several years ago I was impressed with how prevalent cell phones were and texting seemed more natural to the nationals than in my experience in the USA at that time. India has a huge population of tech trendy people. Why should we doubt that these countries might not have users that could be part of the pool of people who would be in such a target market?

No doubt teenage girls text a lot and use Facebook a lot and are from a generation who are uninhibited about letting their interests be known on the internet. We shouldn't be surprised that they click like on Nxtty posts.

But, 10 year old girls are not permitted to use Facebook. A few may slip through, but not enough to use as an illustration. To say they comprise a large amount of those who like Nxtty is commenting in ignorance about how Facebook actually works. I wonder then how much such a commenter could really understand about Facebook advertising to make such hard line assertions and how much value we should attribute to their uneducated assumptions?

So many times on this forum we enter into a debate with an immoveable position based on our own biases, limited world views, narrow experiences and fueled by another's opinion that might be just as half baked.

My father often repeated these wise words to me: "You are in the most immanent danger of being wrong when you are the most positive you are right."

Let's stop constantly tearing ourselves apart in our ignorance and conjecturing and rally behind our community service providers like Nxtty. We do want Nxt platform to succeed, don't we?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: swartzfeger on September 16, 2014, 09:32:17 am

My issue here isn't people raising valid concerns, airing opinions, etc -- let's all fire away (civilly). My only gripe is a hint of condescension where we're all gullible hicks falling for bought likes. I'm excited about Nxtty because of the possibilities. Can anyone here raise a hand that bought Nxtty because some goofball picture on Facebook had 30k likes?

+1

I am here to answer any questions which you may have, I prefer in PM so I can provide you full details.

Please PM me anytime and if I don't response pls send me a reminder.


P.S. Please don't spam me...thanks.

No, no one bought because of the 30K likes on a picture, but some did buy based on the number of likes and apparent popularity of the app on Facebook (in fact this is why this thread was started, see post #1).

I'm sorry, but this seems to be infantilizing readers here. Not being a Facebook guy, I can suss out some things looking at their FB page -- a reasonable amount of shares vs a metric sh*t ton of likes. I also did not fall prey to the Jason Stratham screenshot scheme, or the screenshot of Nxtty on an Apple Watch that won't be released until 2015 gambit.

Due diligence, whether your investment hype is coming from Facebook (good luck!), Zerohedge (good luck!), or Jim Cramer at CNBC (double good luck!)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: wesley on September 16, 2014, 09:42:19 am
But, 10 year old girls are not permitted to use Facebook. A few may slip through, but not enough to use as an illustration. To say they comprise a large amount of those who like Nxtty is commenting in ignorance about how Facebook actually works. I wonder then how much such a commenter could really understand about Facebook advertising to make such hard line assertions and how much value we should attribute to their uneducated assumptions?

If you go to https://www.facebook.com/645168825569486/photos/a.650530295033339.1073741828.645168825569486/715976335155401/?type=1&theater and click on the "33,xxx people like this", you can see the list of people. There are a TON of 10 year old girls in there, more than the few I posted.

Btw, 10 year olds obviously fake their age on Facebook, that's how they get access.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: cryptedxypher on September 16, 2014, 09:44:05 am
I think all I was doing here was telling the developer that his marketing strategy is pretty flawed. If bringing a waste of precious resources (time, money etc) is wrong, I apologize.
Yes, I have a new account bUt none of my posts were made off previous biases or misunderstandings. I am new as a member and I intend to explore what the community has to offer.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: swartzfeger on September 16, 2014, 09:57:09 am
I think all I was doing here was telling the developer that his marketing strategy is pretty flawed.

You described landomata as "an artist trying to deceive people."

Yes, I have a new account bUt none of my posts were made off previous biases or misunderstandings. I am new as a member and I intend to explore what the community has to offer.

Welcome aboard! We're a community with a lot of talented folks that build services, and many of us test them before they're released into the wild. If you own an android/iPhone, you might even have a chance to beta test Nxtty if you PM landomata your UDID. :)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: ThomasVeil on September 16, 2014, 10:03:16 am
Quote
I think all I was doing here was telling the developer that his marketing strategy is pretty flawed.

You told it as a fact that the comments are paid and the likes are bought. And said that they're lying.
Due diligence goes both ways when accusing someone openly.

I agree the likes don't look organic. But people should watch the vid about how facebook works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVfHeWTKjag
In short: if someone uses the normal promotion, then even the official fb corporation might engage in faking likes. And even if you do none of it, you might still get bots liking your page.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: cryptedxypher on September 16, 2014, 10:12:04 am
1. He told people the likes came out of the press release
2. I pointed out it isn't - and that majority of it are liked (gave proof, thats due diligence)
3. I explained why some of this could be bots - he still didn't budge - started talking of twitter (and now am going to do a check on twitter too )
4. He stuck to the story that most of these are Indians and it came from the PR release that occured earlier  - I explained no major news outlet has covered the project and even if it did , it wouldn't have an impact large enough to bring in 15000 likes
6. He reverts to accepting the likes came as a result of paid marketing
7. An admin here shows - that most of the likes came from young girls in a remote part of the country ([please tell me how they follow the news outlet that did the PR release0
8. Multiple users here ask him why he can't just admit this is paid likes

I've worked with several start-ups in India - one of which got acquired and I've had a role to play in their social media strategy. If 3 years of experience in the field has taught me anything it is to see right from wrong, bull shit from facts - truth be told none of that is needed to see how his "engaged' fans have nothing to do with the project.

I am not going to waste my time further explaining how the marketing is flawed and the developer has been lying.
If the project is good, the product delivers and the people like it - the likes will flow . Its given and I wish him all the best with it.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: juicyjuice87 on September 16, 2014, 11:13:33 am
I just need to say this whole nxtty advertising has been really unprofessional. Also, that Twin guy and that jeffdiesel are douches.. Speaking of likes, Nxt has bought thousands of 'likes' as well. Fact!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Damelon on September 16, 2014, 11:17:33 am
I am rather saddened that this whole project is starting to become overwhelmed by a discussion of Facebook Likes of all things.. :/

I don't particularly care about FB likes or Twitter followers, to be honest.

At the very least, they should not be a reason over which you should shoot down an entire project.

I am not going to waste my time further explaining how the marketing is flawed and the developer has been lying.
If the project is good, the product delivers and the people like it - the likes will flow . Its given and I wish him all the best with it.


I completely agree with the last sentence.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TheCryptoWoman on September 16, 2014, 11:30:11 am
Speaking of likes, Nxt has bought thousands of 'likes' as well. Fact!

Not true if you are talking about this FB page:

https://www.facebook.com/nxtcrypto

As I stated, I have paid to promote certain posts into targeted feeds. Never once was anyone compelled to like a post or paid to like the page. The story just appeared in their feed for them to read or like or ignore. This was a good way to get our news in front of people who already had an interest in Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. I paid for it. I take credit for it. You're welcome. Back to the topic of what a great app Nxtty is now! :)

So sorry I have to address this here.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Frohike on September 16, 2014, 11:49:43 am
Well, at least NXTTY got much more attention now  :)

The whole damn thing is not important. What is important is being honest. Say as it is. If they're bought, so what. But say as it is.
If people feel one is lying, they start to wonder if one lies about other things too. That could be becoma a problem.


Honesty is the biggest value if you setup something in crypto. Everyone is (should be) paranoid in this area.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Nexxie on September 16, 2014, 12:34:53 pm
I am rather saddened that this whole project is starting to become overwhelmed by a discussion of Facebook Likes of all things.. :/

I don't particularly care about FB likes or Twitter followers, to be honest.

At the very least, they should not be a reason over which you should shoot down an entire project.

I am not going to waste my time further explaining how the marketing is flawed and the developer has been lying.
If the project is good, the product delivers and the people like it - the likes will flow . Its given and I wish him all the best with it.


I completely agree with the last sentence.

I also agree
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Jimmy2011 on September 16, 2014, 01:43:58 pm
Well, at least NXTTY got much more attention now  :)

The whole damn thing is not important. What is important is being honest. Say as it is. If they're bought, so what. But say as it is.
If people feel one is lying, they start to wonder if one lies about other things too. That could be becoma a problem.


Honesty is the biggest value if you setup something in crypto. Everyone is (should be) paranoid in this area.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 16, 2014, 01:48:11 pm
ANNOUCEMENT:

Both iOS and Android beta cryptomessenger will sent out today to select testers.

If you could like to test please PM because there are some instructions which you must follow.

Its FASTTTTTTTTTTT  ;D
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: trollstocker on September 16, 2014, 03:18:42 pm
Well here I am

Again i read all the posts since our new (out of the blue) poster arrived to warn us about nxtty,
like i have said before i like to keep things SIMPLE so i only have one question

1.Why is it SO hard to believe that India a Country with 1.2 Billion people OF which
904 Million have cell phones that TEXT and of that 904 Million 250 Million have Facebook accounts and of those 250 Million nxtty gets a measly 16,000 like on its page?
isn't that like 0.00006% of the 250 million Face book accounts JUST in one Country India?

And like i said before as my dad always told me, that i wasn't the sharpest saw blade in the mill BUT he did also say i had the uncanny ability to smell bull chit from great distances.

Hence i cut my teeth on the Pinksheet/OTC boards since 2001 and can smell one of these below a mile away

So i am calling it on our new Fortune 500 Company marketer that just happens to find his way to nxtty from India which he claims nobody there has ever heard of Nxtty?.Opps but He did??

Ps. i have no such opinion on wesleyh. I just think he is a bit skeptical of Nxtty and highly
protective of the NXT eco-system as he should be!


IMO nxtty could/will be the vehicle that brings BOTH crypto-currencies AND secure messaging
to the MASSES!. The wallet and tipping are pure Genius!! and i think the people behind it are honestly trying to promote it the right way

God help us ALL if i am wrong for i fear it will harm the NXT system beyond repair..















Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: ThomasVeil on September 16, 2014, 03:39:44 pm
I read once that India (as well as Pakistan) do read all SMS messages and censor them. So I could imagine there being a good market for encryption.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 16, 2014, 03:51:29 pm
IMO nxtty could/will be the vehicle that brings BOTH crypto-currencies AND secure messaging
to the MASSES!. The wallet and tipping are pure Genius!! and i think the people behind it are honestly trying to promote it the right way

God help us ALL if i am wrong for i fear it will harm the NXT system beyond repair..

To be honest I think we stand just as much chance for survival as any altcoin out there right now.

But we will try to build this like a regular business....even if we make a dollar a day in profit we will continue as we are riding a trend and "NO ONE" knows where it's heading.

Our aim now....gain a tight group of owner/users who will evangelize to their own local networks across the globe.

"local network effect".
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Peter2516 on September 16, 2014, 04:32:56 pm

I read once that India (as well as Pakistan) do read all SMS messages and censor them. So I could imagine there being a good market for encryption.

Yep, also they demanded the Blackberry keys... http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/10/4510904/blackberry-makes-surveillance-concessions-ending-dispute-with-india
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: trollstocker on September 16, 2014, 04:47:19 pm
Bingo@!!@..
organically grown is better than mass produced any day!

The Key is to get it right and as close to 100% bug free before it is released
the people today are "The headline is the story" crowd..we have the attention span of a Gnat
most of us anyhow

So you need to grab it AND Keep it..IMO the Tip function and  the Crypto-Currency Rabbit Hole should do the trick
  I never heard of Bitcoin before April 2013,But have been hooked ever since,and i am A boomer
and am unable and unwilling to go back EVER!

You, Nxt and your team are Bold Pioneers sailing in the digital sea of CHANGE! Ahead is a land of promise.A land the way it used to be only better,where a handshake used to mean something,now it's decentralized trading and peer to peer transactions and open sourced software! and IF you folks pull it off lando a land where we can start to take the control back from the crooked ones in power today all over the World

Nxtty could be the New place everyone goes to escape The Matrix..The ONE place ONLY you and the one you're talking to know what each of you are feeling!

Onward!! :)







Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: cryptedxypher on September 16, 2014, 05:05:27 pm


Please explain the following

1. Why are most of the accounts on his page blocked/dead now?
2. Why are most of those people talking stuff that have zero relation to the post and promoting pointless services?
3. Why are most of those people 10 year golds as an admin here pointed out?
4. Why hasn't the developer really answered any of the questions I posted prior to this?
5. Why is the engagement so fucked up on these pages?



I am done posting about this . You are bound to having your opinion and I have the right to mine.
I have repeatedly backed my statements with proof / explanation on what must've gone wrong/been done.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Pilot on September 16, 2014, 05:06:15 pm
I read once that India (as well as Pakistan) do read all SMS messages and censor them. So I could imagine there being a good market for encryption.

Which is why a huge amount of them use Whatsapp. It is very popular in Africa as well.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: cryptedxypher on September 16, 2014, 05:10:34 pm
There are a number of reasons for this.

1. 2g connection data packages are a lot more cheaper than texting packages
2. A lot of Indians live abroad -they recommend this service to their relatives living in India
3. The network effect - as one person gets on whatsapp -he brings his friends/relatives on board too. Due to lower costs/expenses people stick around
4. It works - there's no long sign up procedure or lots of info to add/upload

Most Indians have no clue about the surveillance state of the country. Please don't use propaganda to explain why whatsapp is so popular here.
That said, yes - indeed something like a p2p chat app can be of great use in nations like India and Pakistan -and even more in dictatorships of the middle east.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: chanc3r on September 16, 2014, 05:21:07 pm

I am done posting about this . You are bound to having your opinion and I have the right to mine.
I have repeatedly backed my statements with proof / explanation on what must've gone wrong/been done.

Good, thank you and goodbye.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: igmaca on September 16, 2014, 05:59:40 pm
Is anyone looking at and considering GEMS? It is a similar project to Nxtty however, they Gems will be a counterparty asset. They just released a white paper:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZIvAbI-91qyJTbAaxCH3etbgMy9AyOsf403rhPu4pA/edit#
Very intresting!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: PhoneOperator on September 16, 2014, 06:06:11 pm
Is anyone looking at and considering GEMS? It is a similar project to Nxtty however, they Gems will be a counterparty asset. They just released a white paper:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZIvAbI-91qyJTbAaxCH3etbgMy9AyOsf403rhPu4pA/edit#
Very intresting!

What is the stage of the project?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 16, 2014, 06:11:00 pm
I read once that India (as well as Pakistan) do read all SMS messages and censor them. So I could imagine there being a good market for encryption.

Which is why a huge amount of them use Whatsapp. It is very popular in Africa as well.

I agree with you all.

Western corporate world also will benefit a lot from encrypted messages, like I stated before; there is no way you can share messages/mails/chats in facebooks, googles or microsofts services if you are doing even something remotely similar as they are... Even if the plan is to sell the software/hardware/business to them later on :D

So I would rank the businesses quite high in the target-market.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Joselito_soy_minerooo on September 16, 2014, 08:58:05 pm
Did anyone made a comparative Nxtty vs Telegram vs Whatsapp?

That could be nice. Like a infographic or something like that, I think is a good idea to spread the message, never better ^^.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 16, 2014, 09:41:26 pm
Did anyone made a comparative Nxtty vs Telegram vs Whatsapp?

That could be nice. Like a infographic or something like that, I think is a good idea to spread the message, never better ^^.

https://www.facebook.com/645168825569486/photos/pb.645168825569486.-2207520000.1410903497./661924550560580/?type=3&theater

This was the 1st post we promoted, Nxtty vs Whatsapp.


A lot of our fans came from this post.


P.S....there is 1000+ comments on this post but if you drill down there are many sub comments as well.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 17, 2014, 02:15:25 am
IndiaMikeZulu has been trying trying trying to set up a 'crypto outpost' in Indonesia -- at least 15 months, on and off. Why? The potential is very very very big.

"Nxttycoin tahu? Smartphone app yang membiarkan kirim sms sulit -- juga ada koin. Tanya saya, di kasih 2,500 Nxtty."
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775667.0

@ Shin: kok -- lu anak Jakarte?

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: soxminer on September 17, 2014, 03:12:27 am
Hi Everyone, I'm new to Nxt.  I'm not quite sure where to insert this question.

How will the success of Nxtty affect the price of Nxt?  Do you have to have Nxt in order to use Nxtty?

Sorry for my ignorance, I know this is a basic question.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on September 17, 2014, 03:18:54 am
Hi Everyone, I'm new to Nxt.  I'm not quite sure where to insert this question.

How will the success of Nxtty affect the price of Nxt?  Do you have to have Nxt in order to use Nxtty?

Sorry for my ignorance, I know this is a basic question.

Nxtty price is unrelated to NXT price beyond the fact it is the issuing account. Exposure will be its greatest feature for NXT.
Nxtty is free, with some adds payable in fiat, such as emoji packs.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 17, 2014, 07:16:54 am
Welcome, soxminer!

Mark
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 17, 2014, 10:48:55 am
Emoticons finally added to OPEN CHAT, last major obstacle finished.

https://twitter.com/cryptomessenger/status/512189476072742912
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 17, 2014, 07:15:18 pm
Emoticons finally added to OPEN CHAT, last major obstacle finished.

https://twitter.com/cryptomessenger/status/512189476072742912

Well done!

and here is a picture of a train.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gCHi62lLN-k/UyTHmDbNlqI/AAAAAAAAOFE/HyigOxHzAsQ/s1600/design,photography,retro,vintage-cf4dec8870470735470c60927a4de259_h.jpg)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 17, 2014, 09:37:41 pm
Nxtty iOS demo video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nopAntOXP90
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 18, 2014, 12:40:05 am
Dum de dum:

Watch video.

Contact by phone potential Nxtty users.

Post on usual round of sites.

m
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: lucky88888 on September 18, 2014, 01:13:20 am
i would love to play around with one on my iphone before making investment decisions.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 18, 2014, 04:15:18 am
i would love to play around with one on my iphone before making investment decisions.

Please PM me your UDID and we will add you to the next release.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Aesyrin on September 18, 2014, 05:51:23 am
Shared the video with my friends on FB, hopefully it can get you a few likes! Though unfortunately I don't have a huge FB following, but every person counts :)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 18, 2014, 05:54:54 am
Shared the video with my friends on FB, hopefully it can get you a few likes! Though unfortunately I don't have a huge FB following, but every person counts :)
One step and travel a 1000 miles.

 :)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: nextcafe on September 18, 2014, 06:22:45 am
Looking forward to this  ;D 
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 18, 2014, 05:18:29 pm
Nxtty iOS demo video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nopAntOXP90

Woooow..... cool man!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 19, 2014, 07:45:28 am
We are 99% finished building Nxtty Cryptomessenger, now we are in quality control phase which means bug fixes. Once all critical & major bugs are fixed we will submit to Google play & app store.

Thank you so much for your continued patience with us.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Pilot on September 19, 2014, 07:06:59 pm
Seems like privacy and end-to-end encryption message is gaining traction amount the main stream. Apples recent Private letter and information about how stuff in iOS 8 and iCloud are encrypted and how iMessages are encrypted end to end, even apple can't read them.

Then, Google announces that Android L will enable encryption by default, probably in response to all the privacy info Apple released about iPhone.

So, I hope this all bodes well for Nxtty, rather than people saying, "Hey, we already have encrypted stuff built in." I do know the market likes choices.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 19, 2014, 08:23:40 pm
Seems like privacy and end-to-end encryption message is gaining traction amount the main stream. Apples recent Private letter and information about how stuff in iOS 8 and iCloud are encrypted and how iMessages are encrypted end to end, even apple can't read them.

Then, Google announces that Android L will enable encryption by default, probably in response to all the privacy info Apple released about iPhone.

So, I hope this all bodes well for Nxtty, rather than people saying, "Hey, we already have encrypted stuff built in." I do know the market likes choices.

I'm sure if Apple & Google were approached by you know who, they would have to provide user details.

I doubt iMessage is run on a P2P cryptographic platform.  I wonder who controls the private keys?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: trollstocker on September 19, 2014, 10:02:46 pm
Seems like privacy and end-to-end encryption message is gaining traction amount the main stream. Apples recent Private letter and information about how stuff in iOS 8 and iCloud are encrypted and how iMessages are encrypted end to end, even apple can't read them.

Then, Google announces that Android L will enable encryption by default, probably in response to all the privacy info Apple released about iPhone.

So, I hope this all bodes well for Nxtty, rather than people saying, "Hey, we already have encrypted stuff built in." I do know the market likes choices.

All i can think of doing is ROTFLMFAOOOOO..Why don't we just get the app from the NSA?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Pilot on September 19, 2014, 10:47:58 pm
Seems like privacy and end-to-end encryption message is gaining traction amount the main stream. Apples recent Private letter and information about how stuff in iOS 8 and iCloud are encrypted and how iMessages are encrypted end to end, even apple can't read them.

Then, Google announces that Android L will enable encryption by default, probably in response to all the privacy info Apple released about iPhone.

So, I hope this all bodes well for Nxtty, rather than people saying, "Hey, we already have encrypted stuff built in." I do know the market likes choices.

I'm sure if Apple & Google were approached by you know who, they would have to provide user details.

I doubt iMessage is run on a P2P cryptographic platform.  I wonder who controls the private keys?

I guess you did read Apples privacy info. They can't, from their website:

"our communications are protected by end-to-end encryption across all your devices when you use iMessage and FaceTime, and with iOS 8 your iMessages are also encrypted on your device in such a way that they can’t be accessed without your passcode.  Apple has no way to decrypt iMessage and FaceTime data when it’s in transit between devices."

"On devices running iOS 8, your personal data such as photos, messages (including attachments), email, contacts, call history, iTunes content, notes, and reminders is placed under the protection of your passcode. Unlike our competitors, Apple cannot bypass your passcode and therefore cannot access this data. So it's not technically feasible for us to respond to government warrants for the extraction of this data from devices in their possession running iOS 8."

Now, that's not true for stuff you store on iCloud. They do have the keys to that.

"With iOS 8, we’ve introduced an innovative feature designed to protect your privacy by randomizing your device’s MAC address when the device is passively scanning for Wi-Fi networks. Because your MAC address now changes when you’re not connected to a network, it can’t be used to persistently track you."
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 20, 2014, 12:19:35 am
The video is great. Bought a few Nxtty cheaply this morning. Hot to trot with marketing.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 20, 2014, 06:27:24 am

I guess you did read Apples privacy info. They can't, from their website:

"our communications are protected by end-to-end encryption across all your devices when you use iMessage and FaceTime, and with iOS 8 your iMessages are also encrypted on your device in such a way that they can’t be accessed without your passcode.  Apple has no way to decrypt iMessage and FaceTime data when it’s in transit between devices."

"On devices running iOS 8, your personal data such as photos, messages (including attachments), email, contacts, call history, iTunes content, notes, and reminders is placed under the protection of your passcode. Unlike our competitors, Apple cannot bypass your passcode and therefore cannot access this data. So it's not technically feasible for us to respond to government warrants for the extraction of this data from devices in their possession running iOS 8."

Now, that's not true for stuff you store on iCloud. They do have the keys to that.

"With iOS 8, we’ve introduced an innovative feature designed to protect your privacy by randomizing your device’s MAC address when the device is passively scanning for Wi-Fi networks. Because your MAC address now changes when you’re not connected to a network, it can’t be used to persistently track you."

Hey it's Apple, I'm sure they can build anything they want that's why our unique USP is not just encryption.  But as a previous user of iMessage I know that it acts as your phone's sms client so when you receive an sms from any other device it goes into your iMessage box.  So I don't know how they are gonna encrypt those messages when they don't originate from Apple.


I think maybe they will do only iMessage to iMessage.



Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 20, 2014, 11:27:45 am
We are 99% finished building Nxtty Cryptomessenger, now we are in quality control phase which means bug fixes. Once all critical & major bugs are fixed we will submit to Google play & app store.

Thank you so much for your continued patience with us.

No hurry.
But still I am really looking forward to get my hands on the finished product :D
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Pilot on September 20, 2014, 11:08:13 pm

I guess you did read Apples privacy info. They can't, from their website:

"our communications are protected by end-to-end encryption across all your devices when you use iMessage and FaceTime, and with iOS 8 your iMessages are also encrypted on your device in such a way that they can’t be accessed without your passcode.  Apple has no way to decrypt iMessage and FaceTime data when it’s in transit between devices."

"On devices running iOS 8, your personal data such as photos, messages (including attachments), email, contacts, call history, iTunes content, notes, and reminders is placed under the protection of your passcode. Unlike our competitors, Apple cannot bypass your passcode and therefore cannot access this data. So it's not technically feasible for us to respond to government warrants for the extraction of this data from devices in their possession running iOS 8."

Now, that's not true for stuff you store on iCloud. They do have the keys to that.

"With iOS 8, we’ve introduced an innovative feature designed to protect your privacy by randomizing your device’s MAC address when the device is passively scanning for Wi-Fi networks. Because your MAC address now changes when you’re not connected to a network, it can’t be used to persistently track you."

Hey it's Apple, I'm sure they can build anything they want that's why our unique USP is not just encryption.  But as a previous user of iMessage I know that it acts as your phone's sms client so when you receive an sms from any other device it goes into your iMessage box.  So I don't know how they are gonna encrypt those messages when they don't originate from Apple.


I think maybe they will do only iMessage to iMessage.

Correct. It has to be iMessage on both ends to be encrypted end-to-end.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: durerus on September 21, 2014, 03:47:35 pm
Nxtty iOS demo video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nopAntOXP90

Woooow..... cool man!

Oh oh http://vimeo.com/106725097

But: Gems is based on Bitcoin which has no transparent consensus group, right? Damn it, I'll buy the shit out of this ICO  ;D

EDIT: Look at the contacts of the phone in the video: Anon136, BCNext and CfB are already in ;)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 21, 2014, 06:17:50 pm
Nxtty iOS demo video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nopAntOXP90

Woooow..... cool man!

Oh oh http://vimeo.com/106725097

But: Gems is based on Bitcoin which has no transparent consensus group, right? Damn it, I'll buy the shit out of this ICO  ;D

EDIT: Look at the contacts of the phone in the video: Anon136, BCNext and CfB are already in ;)

Gems has ads. Nobody wants ads.  ::)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: durerus on September 21, 2014, 06:34:57 pm
In the video it says you can turn ads on and off any time. Dunno if that means you can turn them off immediately when they appear or that you can turn off any appearing of ads.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: durerus on September 21, 2014, 07:12:18 pm
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg8915746#msg8915746

"Gems app won't have any banners advertisements.

when we say ads we mean unsolicited push messages. If you chose to accept them you will be rewarded with Gems directly from the advertiser, and if you don't want to receive them you can opt out and turn the feature off."
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 21, 2014, 07:33:13 pm
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg8915746#msg8915746

"Gems app won't have any banners advertisements.

when we say ads we mean unsolicited push messages. If you chose to accept them you will be rewarded with Gems directly from the advertiser, and if you don't want to receive them you can opt out and turn the feature off."

Ah, ok. Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: trollstocker on September 21, 2014, 07:45:42 pm
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=758004.msg8915746#msg8915746

"Gems app won't have any banners advertisements.

when we say ads we mean unsolicited push messages. If you chose to accept them you will be rewarded with Gems directly from the advertiser, and if you don't want to receive them you can opt out and turn the feature off."

If you're smart you will invest on both nxtty and Gems..They both will be huge IMO..
although nxtty with app to app calling and lots more features to come in the years ahead should give it the edge over Gems..But anyone that thinks there is ONLY room for one of these is not following the news the last year or so..Privacy and Security are the future
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 22, 2014, 04:23:14 am
I agree with Trollstocker -- 'Privacy and Security are the future.' And IndiaMikeZulu loves the idea of being involved in the SAE-phase of Nxt. We remain happy campers.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: swartzfeger on September 23, 2014, 07:29:00 am
Any updates, landomata?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 23, 2014, 07:38:36 am
Any updates, landomata?

QA is till ongoing it will take time....we have 4 levels of bugs:

Critical
High
Medium
Low

We have 1 or 2 critical bugs left for both platforms....and quite a few high & medium bugs to get thru.


PLUS...we are also doing app localization which is also ongoing....we will also need to do testing to make sure the translations are correct.

Instagram is now opened & is being developed....while Tumblr blog has also been started.



Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 23, 2014, 08:31:19 am
Patient and confident.

IndiaMikeZulu
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on September 23, 2014, 09:11:22 am
Any updates, landomata?

QA is till ongoing it will take time....we have 4 levels of bugs:

Critical
High
Medium
Low

We have 1 or 2 critical bugs left for both platforms....and quite a few high & medium bugs to get thru.


PLUS...we are also doing app localization which is also ongoing....we will also need to do testing to make sure the translations are correct.

Instagram is now opened & is being developed....while Tumblr blog has also been started.

hey!?! ???
Was not Nxtty suppose to be release in  august, how could this possible?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 23, 2014, 09:46:25 am
Any updates, landomata?

QA is till ongoing it will take time....we have 4 levels of bugs:

Critical
High
Medium
Low

We have 1 or 2 critical bugs left for both platforms....and quite a few high & medium bugs to get thru.


PLUS...we are also doing app localization which is also ongoing....we will also need to do testing to make sure the translations are correct.

Instagram is now opened & is being developed....while Tumblr blog has also been started.

hey!?! ???
Was not Nxtty suppose to be release in  august, how could this possible?

Cryptomessenger took a lot longer than expected to implement we had to modify a lot of the core functions.

So that is why there was the delay.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: nxtrules on September 23, 2014, 01:26:30 pm
Hello Landomata,

How many employees does your company have?

Thanks
nr


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Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 23, 2014, 01:59:13 pm
Hello Landomata,

How many employees does your company have?

Thanks
nr


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well we have a few permanent & many semi-permanent employees.  Semi-permanent employees are paid on a per job basis.


Right now we have 7 developers working full time on various aspects of the application.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: durerus on September 23, 2014, 10:18:05 pm
Right now we have 7 developers working full time on various aspects of the application.

 :o Wow!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: nxtrules on September 24, 2014, 03:02:10 am
Nice :-)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 24, 2014, 04:46:55 am
Everyone pls keep your fingers crossed....we have been approached by a US TV station to be apart of their Nationwide broadcast.


The station broadcasts across the whole UNITED STATES to 100 million households.


.....we need every bit of good luck to pull this off :).
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: nxtrules on September 24, 2014, 04:53:01 am
Crossed :-) Good luck!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Nexxie on September 24, 2014, 04:59:15 am
Everyone pls keep your fingers crossed....we have been approached by a US TV station to be apart of their Nationwide broadcast.


The station broadcasts across the whole UNITED STATES to 100 million households.


.....we need every bit of good luck to pull this off :).

Nice! Love to see Nxtty in nationwide broadcast!
Huge!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Aesyrin on September 24, 2014, 05:13:31 am
Wish you the best of luck! Let us know when and what station if it goes through - would LOVE to see it.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 24, 2014, 05:27:56 am
Good for Nxt and Nxtty =)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 24, 2014, 12:58:43 pm
Can we get some feedback on the website its very preliminary and is undergoing work.

http://nxtty.com/nxt/index.html


Please test on mobile as most users will visit using mobiles/tablets.

Will make some changes with Photoshop. Same as usual  ;) Minor Major changes.

Well,

This is my idea of the website; Totally different  :P

http://i.cubeupload.com/MlQQuE.jpg (http://i.cubeupload.com/MlQQuE.jpg)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 24, 2014, 01:27:47 pm
Cool design but that means we would have to change the current format of the site.  I thought everyone was mainly against the red color and not the design.




Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 24, 2014, 01:34:51 pm
Cool design but that means we would have to change the current format of the site.  I thought everyone was mainly against the red color and not the design.

Ok,

I will change your design then.  :)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: newsilike on September 25, 2014, 09:28:35 pm
Hello Landomata,

How many employees does your company have?

Thanks
nr


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well we have a few permanent & many semi-permanent employees.  Semi-permanent employees are paid on a per job basis.


Right now we have 7 developers working full time on various aspects of the application.

GOD HOW AWESOME IS THAT?!

I'm so keen to know what channel it was  :)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 26, 2014, 03:37:58 am
Who has noticed that 'price-independence' is clearly increasing? The Mining Thing sure has Bitcoin on the back foot; but it is not equally affecting all altcoins. People are (finally . . . ) becoming more discerning. Those altcoins/apps that really have something to offer -- like . . . ahem . . . Nxttycoin -- may simply prosper while others languish.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: next007 on September 26, 2014, 07:37:43 am
What is the reason of decrease price of nxtty is it failed??
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on September 26, 2014, 07:41:57 am
What is the reason of decrease price of nxtty is it failed??

I think it has grow to fast,  it is jus a correction imo.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on September 26, 2014, 07:43:19 am
What is the reason of decrease price of nxtty is it failed??

I think it has grow to fast,  it is jus a correction imo.
It didn't launch yet. Be patient.

And after it is launched I expect more media attention.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: m30188 on September 26, 2014, 06:12:46 pm
http://invisible.im

John Brooks, Patrick Gray, and HD Moore are doing an IM app
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 26, 2014, 06:43:17 pm
http://invisible.im

John Brooks, Patrick Gray, and HD Moore are doing an IM app

We are "Beyond Messaging"
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 27, 2014, 01:02:40 am
Don't forget, Next007, that Nxtty's drama on Coinmarketcap started the same day that Bitcoin's <$400 Whoopsie started . . . and Nxtty hasn't been released yet.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 28, 2014, 02:24:06 am
Our First Official Interview:

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/nxtty-developer-discusses-encrypted-messaging-crypto-2-0/
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 28, 2014, 09:01:32 am
Our First Official Interview:

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/nxtty-developer-discusses-encrypted-messaging-crypto-2-0/

Well done! Good article.

ps. How close are we to the iphone launch?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 28, 2014, 10:01:32 am
Yes, good article.

And check this out; there is just so much discontent with banks!

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2hj2lc/the_secret_goldman_sachs_tapes_the_reporter_jake/
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 28, 2014, 03:16:58 pm

ps. How close are we to the iphone launch?

Well both iPhone & iPad apps were restructured to Nib file structure yesterday so this will allow our iOS dev's to speed up the fixing of bugs.

We have made good head way against the critical & high level bugs.  Alot of the bugs coming up now are related to iPad, iPhone 6 & iOS 8.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on September 29, 2014, 03:11:27 am
I have been touching base with contacts, figuring out where coin giveaways are most likely to 'spark' network growth.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 29, 2014, 07:02:21 am
WALLET.

https://www.facebook.com/645168825569486/photos/a.650530295033339.1073741828.645168825569486/726068587479509/?type=1&theater
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Johnson on September 29, 2014, 08:19:24 pm
I have to admit, this Nxtty thing has potential. I like that you build something on top of NXT making the use much more user friendly. It's like the blockchain.info wallet that made bitcoin money easy, using server solutions but encrypted, this is the same, using server solutions but encrypted, now to make NXT messaging easy. Curious to see what you will succeed in doing. Great project!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Johnson on September 29, 2014, 08:24:57 pm
Wait, why are you creating a nxttyCOIN?  Are you not going to use NXT as a currency if any? Confused...
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 29, 2014, 08:43:08 pm
Wait, why are you creating a nxttyCOIN?  Are you not going to use NXT as a currency if any? Confused...

We had a discussion about this in the page 6 and forward.

To quote Landomata:
"Nxtty cryptomessenger is built for the users & is owned by the users."

This is the main reason, I believe, that everyone benefits from using the Nxttycoin for this platform
and basically when this app is, lets say.. sold to Microsoft, owners of Nxtty will benefit.

There was also discussion that Nxtty wallet would/could/should include other currencies like Nxt, btc.. So you can easily tip/pay with other currencies as well.

Lets say you publish a cool educational video (like repairing a car or something) in Nxtty, people can easily tip you and you get the positive feedback in the form of Nxttycoin.
Then you can spend the money to buy more tools to repair cars and produce even more cool educational videos.
So it makes possible to have an cumulative, positive feedback loop, in the form of tipping.


Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: mrcryptouser on September 30, 2014, 12:22:08 am
With recent civil unrest events in China. The citizens of china have recently embraced firechat with over 100,000 new user signups. Do you think nxtty has what it takes to crack into this market? I think the chinese people would gladly embrace nxtty!

http://venturebeat.com/2014/09/29/china-blocked-instagram-so-protesters-turn-to-firechat/
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: juicyjuice87 on September 30, 2014, 03:59:07 am
Un fucking believable.  Why does the Chinese government either bother. This is a battle that they clearly can't win or am I missing something
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 30, 2014, 05:01:10 am
With recent civil unrest events in China. The citizens of china have recently embraced firechat with over 100,000 new user signups. Do you think nxtty has what it takes to crack into this market? I think the chinese people would gladly embrace nxtty!

http://venturebeat.com/2014/09/29/china-blocked-instagram-so-protesters-turn-to-firechat/

This is why we have built two means of communication inside the app.  The 1st is Cryptomessenger (completely private, encrypted messaging service) & 2nd is OPEN CHAT (a crypto blogging platform) where you can publish anything you want without fear of persecution.  If you like someones writing on a particular topic on OPEN CHAT then you can talk to them openly by commenting on their post or privately by adding them as a friend in Cryptomessenger.

NOTE:
1) Avatar photos in Cryptomessenger are encrypted.
2) We give users the ability to chose two avatars, one for Cryptomessenger & another for OPEN CHAT.
3) Both Cryptomessenger and OPEN CHAT are totally anonymous and are not tied to any phone number or real name.
4) Tipping is not just for fun post but also for engaging conversations that governments would rather not have us take part in.  If you post great content whatever that may be you will be rewarded with Nxttycoin.

In future updates we will integrate MARKET with the above services to drive even more micro transactions that happen inside the NXTTYconomy.




Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 30, 2014, 05:23:03 am

There was also discussion that Nxtty wallet would/could/should include other currencies like Nxt, btc.. So you can easily tip/pay with other currencies as well.
Exactly, one step at a time....at this point 99% of our Target market thinks a "wallet" is what you keep in your physical purse or pants pocket.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: hisun on September 30, 2014, 06:56:15 am
firecha advantage is that he does not need access to the Internet, the Chinese government is now the Internet blockade.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 30, 2014, 02:55:05 pm
We have finished transferring all rewards for September month.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: rubenbc on September 30, 2014, 02:57:13 pm
reward received :D
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on September 30, 2014, 03:29:50 pm
reward received :D

Same here, thanks! :D
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: rtrtcrypto on September 30, 2014, 08:44:58 pm
great surprise on the bonus!  8)

I could not find info on that - can someone link me? How did/does the bonus work?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on September 30, 2014, 08:47:30 pm
great surprise on the bonus!  8)

I could not find info on that - can someone link me? How did/does the bonus work?

Pls check on the OP...Nxtty reward program.

https://nxtforum.org/nxt-mobile-app-co/nxt-mobile-applications-company/
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: rtrtcrypto on September 30, 2014, 09:14:35 pm
Great!


great surprise on the bonus!  8)

I could not find info on that - can someone link me? How did/does the bonus work?

Pls check on the OP...Nxtty reward program.

https://nxtforum.org/nxt-mobile-app-co/nxt-mobile-applications-company/
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: igmaca on September 30, 2014, 09:36:41 pm
Thank you!!  :)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: DrearyUrbanite on September 30, 2014, 10:29:33 pm
Nice bonus! Thanks!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 01, 2014, 07:46:37 pm
Update:

1) We have just finished Android optimization we reduced the code count by 1000+ lines.

2) iPhone & iPad are undergoing optimization right now and we have resolved 90% of critical issues.  Please note that with iOS 8 & the larger iPhone's Apple has introduced a lot of things which are new but very innovative.  Nxtty is ready for iOS 8 and larger screens.

3) Localization & translations are going full speed 25+ major languages have already been completed.

4) Latest iOS (iPhone & iPad) beta....only those with UDID's already added by Apple can download. 

http://install.diawi.com/sgJnbo
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on October 01, 2014, 11:44:03 pm
Go, us!!

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on October 02, 2014, 06:39:37 pm
Update:

1) We have just finished Android optimization we reduced the code count by 1000+ lines.

2) iPhone & iPad are undergoing optimization right now and we have resolved 90% of critical issues.  Please note that with iOS 8 & the larger iPhone's Apple has introduced a lot of things which are new but very innovative.  Nxtty is ready for iOS 8 and larger screens.

3) Localization & translations are going full speed 25+ major languages have already been completed.

4) Latest iOS (iPhone & iPad) beta....only those with UDID's already added by Apple can download. 

http://install.diawi.com/sgJnbo

HUGE!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on October 03, 2014, 05:31:07 am
Woo hoo! Received Nxttys!!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: rubenbc on October 03, 2014, 11:03:38 am
when adroid app??
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: viennavtc on October 03, 2014, 07:31:02 pm
lando, for some reason that install doesn't work for me... anyone else have problems downloading?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: TheWireMaster on October 03, 2014, 08:05:29 pm

lando, for some reason that install doesn't work for me... anyone else have problems downloading?

Me too... :(
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 03, 2014, 08:53:25 pm
lando, for some reason that install doesn't work for me... anyone else have problems downloading?

Did we add your udid before?

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: viennavtc on October 03, 2014, 11:37:56 pm
what's that?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 04, 2014, 04:57:40 am
what's that?

The UDID is your unique phone identifier used by Apple, we need to add your UDID to the build before you can download it.


Please click the below link & send us the long number (UDID) that appears. 

http://testflightapp.com/install/7a3490da0981c32b8dcbeeb099656603-MTE4ODc4MDI/
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: swartzfeger on October 04, 2014, 06:15:13 am

lando, for some reason that install doesn't work for me... anyone else have problems downloading?

Me too... :(


Same. iPhone 5, iOS 8.0.2.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: rubenbc on October 04, 2014, 09:24:14 pm
expect you to be the first to launch the app. there are many coins that are trying to do the same. I'm looking forward to the launch. Greetings
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on October 04, 2014, 09:29:05 pm
@lando,
what is the ETA? Next week will be late by a month and a half?
i thought I could use nxtty soon. Can't wait anymore...  :D
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: cobaltskky on October 05, 2014, 01:47:55 am
@lando,
what is the ETA? Next week will be late by a month and a half?
i thought I could use nxtty soon. Can't wait anymore...  :D

It's software.  A month and a half late would be right on time. ;)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 05, 2014, 11:17:46 am
I guess the Indonesian bots have migrated to Dhaka, Bangladesh.  :D


We are celebrating with cake 25,000 fans: https://www.facebook.com/645168825569486/photos/a.650530295033339.1073741828.645168825569486/729235347162833/?type=1&theater
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on October 05, 2014, 12:00:14 pm
Can we get some feedback on the website its very preliminary and is undergoing work.

http://nxtty.com/nxt/index.html


Please test on mobile as most users will visit using mobiles/tablets.

Will make some changes with Photoshop. Same as usual  ;) Minor Major changes.

Well,

This is my idea of the website; Totally different  :P

http://i.cubeupload.com/MlQQuE.jpg (http://i.cubeupload.com/MlQQuE.jpg)

Hi Landomata,

I made small changes to the current website. I understand you didn't want to change the complete website. Here you are;

http://i.cubeupload.com/QWllik.jpg (http://i.cubeupload.com/QWllik.jpg)

Gr. Fatih
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on October 06, 2014, 01:42:42 am
Had a chat to my trader today. We find ourselves so confident and patient. Crypto adoption is raging. The phenomenon is young. All things come to he who waits!!

Mark
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on October 06, 2014, 10:02:42 am
Interesting development;

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Facebook-Messenger-may-soon-let-you-transfer-money/articleshow/44476027.cms (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Facebook-Messenger-may-soon-let-you-transfer-money/articleshow/44476027.cms)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: rubenbc on October 06, 2014, 10:19:25 am
I hope they don't advance us and we get to be the first..
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: rtrtcrypto on October 06, 2014, 11:30:08 am
I heard that FB MSG is totally transparent to FB and their employees... anything you send is fair game. It is, if this is the case, the furthest thing from something like NXXTY as one could have!

Interesting development;

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Facebook-Messenger-may-soon-let-you-transfer-money/articleshow/44476027.cms (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Facebook-Messenger-may-soon-let-you-transfer-money/articleshow/44476027.cms)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 06, 2014, 11:36:07 am
Interesting development;

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Facebook-Messenger-may-soon-let-you-transfer-money/articleshow/44476027.cms (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Facebook-Messenger-may-soon-let-you-transfer-money/articleshow/44476027.cms)

Didn't they try this before with Facebook money.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on October 06, 2014, 11:05:49 pm
Bitcoin Ebola GFC ISIS: Phase Two is Begun

'Go, Nxttycoin!'

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article47622.html
http://ewallstreeter.com/bitcoin-ebola-gfc-isis-phase-two-is-begun-3557
http://bitcoinaware.com
http://www.cryptocoinrank.com/Talkcoin
http://www.investingnews.tv
http://socialmention.com/search?t=news&q=%22bitcoin%22+gfc+ebola&btnG=Search
http://app.feed.informer.com/widgets/VOJKH6XTVC
http://argentofisico.blogspot.com.au/2012/08/20-euro.html
http://bestaroundtheweb.com/q/isis
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: m30188 on October 06, 2014, 11:48:00 pm
I'm afraid that by the time this app comes out we will no longer be using cell phones.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: viennavtc on October 07, 2014, 12:21:55 am
don't hold your breath
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: trollstocker on October 07, 2014, 01:15:12 am
I'm afraid that by the time this app comes out we will no longer be using cell phones.

Nxtty will be evolving for a long time after it comes out is my guess!!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: juicyjuice87 on October 07, 2014, 01:59:11 am
I'm afraid that by the time this app comes out we will no longer be using cell phones.

Hahaha
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 07, 2014, 05:12:21 am
I'm afraid that by the time this app comes out we will no longer be using cell phones.

Nxtty will be evolving for a long time after it comes out is my guess!!

We are already planning for the major update after launch....we are now in a building freeze due to optimization but we need to prepare the next roll out for NXTTYconomy.

Android will launch in October as optimization is finished.  Exact launch date will be communicated shortly.


IMPORTANT.....we are also optimizing our backend...I should have some good news about the worldwide adaptive server mesh soon.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on October 07, 2014, 01:26:54 pm
I'm afraid that by the time this app comes out we will no longer be using cell phones.

Nxtty will be evolving for a long time after it comes out is my guess!!

We are already planning for the major update after launch....we are now in a building freeze due to optimization but we need to prepare the next roll out for NXTTYconomy.

Android will launch in October as optimization is finished.  Exact launch date will be communicated shortly.


IMPORTANT.....we are also optimizing our backend...I should have some good news about the worldwide adaptive server mesh soon.

Sounds good. Steady as she goes, captain!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: trollstocker on October 07, 2014, 11:48:07 pm
I'm afraid that by the time this app comes out we will no longer be using cell phones.

Nxtty will be evolving for a long time after it comes out is my guess!!

We are already planning for the major update after launch....we are now in a building freeze due to optimization but we need to prepare the next roll out for NXTTYconomy.

Android will launch in October as optimization is finished.  Exact launch date will be communicated shortly.


IMPORTANT.....we are also optimizing our backend...I should have some good news about the worldwide adaptive server mesh soon.

That's Awesome news!..

Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish.
John Quincy Adams



Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 08, 2014, 12:44:41 pm
Announcement


Nxtty will be launching on the Google Playstore on:

October, 28th, 2014
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Sebastien256 on October 08, 2014, 12:45:50 pm
Announcement


Nxtty will be launching on the Google Playstore on:

October, 28th, 2014


Good, your credibility is now at stake.  :D
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on October 08, 2014, 12:46:14 pm
Can't wait!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: dsalinas79 on October 08, 2014, 12:46:21 pm
Cool
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 08, 2014, 12:47:55 pm

Good, your credibility is now at stake.  :D

3rd time is a charm  ;D
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: rtrtcrypto on October 08, 2014, 12:58:59 pm
looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Jimmy2011 on October 08, 2014, 01:15:14 pm

Good, your credibility is now at stake.  :D

3rd time is a charm  ;D

Is this the 2nd time you formally make an announcement for Nxtty release?

I'm patience.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 08, 2014, 01:23:34 pm


Is this the 2nd time you formally make an announcement for Nxtty release?

I'm patience.

3rd
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: shin on October 08, 2014, 02:40:35 pm


Is this the 2nd time you formally make an announcement for Nxtty release?

I'm patience.

3rd

3rd announcement? Half Life 3 confirmed? :D (yeah, I know this joke is getting old)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on October 08, 2014, 02:42:12 pm


Is this the 2nd time you formally make an announcement for Nxtty release?

I'm patience.

3rd

3rd announcement? Half Life 3 confirmed? :D (yeah, I know this joke is getting old)

Confirmed;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU_reTt7Hj4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU_reTt7Hj4)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on October 09, 2014, 12:53:03 am
Well, looking on the bright side, the end of this month will be timely because Bitcoin should have lifted nicely from its recent low.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on October 09, 2014, 06:58:14 pm
Here is a picture of the DA moon.

(http://38.media.tumblr.com/7ca1f7f81240cfcb053c1f5f97ac03c6/tumblr_n8puguxn9c1rf6o6xo1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 09, 2014, 09:37:07 pm
lol   :D

One small step for Man, one giant leap for messengers.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on October 10, 2014, 02:26:26 am
In the Northern Hemisphere? Well, to keep your spirits up:

got Spring sunshine pouring down on my old farmhouse today. Blossoms on the fruit trees. A pair of wild emus moseying past the living room windows.

Mark
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: komputor on October 11, 2014, 08:28:09 am
Just some thoughts and speculations on the potential of an app like nxtty -

- A mobile-focused social network with its own internal economy is a first and it will have strong network effects for being the first in market.
- The tokens in the economy could also be used as an experimental basis to create a decentralized user supported social network. To elaborate, unlike the imposing nature of centralized social networks like facebook, nxtty development and evolution could be fueled and supported solely by end users exercising their token ownership as also voting rights to decide the course of nxtty's future.
- Introduces the concept of value driven social networking, where people can earn money/value by helping others, posting useful stuff, sharing content and creating content. There is so much time spent by people on facebook doing things that bring value to FB/others but does the company reward its users for spending hours and hours on the platform? FB users are basically doing free work for facebook while facebook takes that input and targets adverts back to the users. It is quite literally milking the end user/supporter. However, nxtty could monetarily empower the users for participating rather than target them with ads.
- A social network owned by the people, for the people. The implications are earth shattering to say the least :D
- Introduces cryptocurrency to its growing userbase by seamlessly integrating nxt apps and services like freemarket, asset exchange, dgs/marketplace/melodius, games build on nxt etc.
- A social network that protects free speech and privacy.

Just some random thoughts on future possibilities, maybe this is already the plan or maybe it isnt :). Whatever the case, very interesting times ahead!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 11, 2014, 08:31:08 am
The Rise of the Owner/User.  :)

Great post @ Komputer
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on October 11, 2014, 08:50:14 am
The Rise of the Owner/User.  :)

Great post @ Komputer

Yes, great post. Thanks Komputer.

Trend now obviously is to have better security and encryption for group messages. Lets say for instance for a work group data that is wanted to be distributed fast and casually, but with out whatsapp or facebook.
Nxtty has a great timing.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: komputor on October 11, 2014, 09:16:17 am
Of course, im certain that these ideas will materialize very soon.
Cant wait to switch to nxtty. Looking forward to the launch!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: whatnxt on October 11, 2014, 10:45:58 am
If you want to beat FB and the like then you need a way for companies to participate. FB get a huge amount of free publicity from links put on business websites as part of the business's marketing campaigns and login security. This publicity normalizes FB much like it normalizes gambling and debt and other undesirables. You see FB everywhere so it must be safe and acceptable. (So remember if you see it everywhere it is probably not safe or sensible :) )

Being better is not sufficient you need to be worth switching to for the current FB users. That can only happen if the FB user does not loose much by switching and business content and functionality is a big part of what you can loose.

For the young, looking to be different,  you just need to be visible and push your difference/rebellious origins. This may be easier to achieve in the short run and will make young trendy companies early adopters as long as there is a way for them to participate.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on October 12, 2014, 03:06:04 am
'There is so much time spent by people on facebook doing things that bring value to FB . . . '

Yup.

Thanks for the text, Komputer.

Mark
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on October 12, 2014, 07:02:28 am
I am spreading the word about Nxtty at Facebook.

Friends are interested. Use Facebook to let everyone know about Nxtty.

You can't use Nxtty without friends. Time to promote!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 12, 2014, 08:51:17 am
I am spreading the word about Nxtty at Facebook.

Friends are interested. Use Facebook to let everyone know about Nxtty.

You can't use Nxtty without friends. Time to promote!
Agree 100%
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: nextcafe on October 12, 2014, 10:50:50 pm
Does the app take photos? You could do a commercial showing that your photos are protected.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: trollstocker on October 13, 2014, 02:27:57 am
Glenn Greenwald: Why Privacy Matters
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-12/glenn-greenwald-why-privacy-matters

Nxtty The Perfect Storm is coming Oct 28th!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jefdiesel on October 13, 2014, 06:15:25 pm
Glenn Greenwald: Why Privacy Matters
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-12/glenn-greenwald-why-privacy-matters

Nxtty The Perfect Storm is coming Oct 28th!

ug great now you got me reading zerohedge..
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on October 14, 2014, 12:58:37 am
The 'You don't need to worry about Government surveillance unless you have nothing to hide' position is one I have always felt marks culpable naivete.

Nxttycoin's price rising nicely, with Bitcoin's, today.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: nxtrules on October 14, 2014, 01:34:07 am
Hello Landomata, question:

whatever happened to the nationwide radio/tv promotion?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 14, 2014, 05:25:37 am
The show was bit early in the morning ...plus we feel its not the right time we can approach them again after the app is launched.  We didn't want to use the opportunity till we had the right timing.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on October 15, 2014, 12:37:29 am
https://altcoinherald.com/business-world-catching-decentralized-trend/
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 15, 2014, 09:08:23 pm
https://altcoinherald.com/business-world-catching-decentralized-trend/

Nxtty has some major components already mentioned in this article and we have only just began.


Pls note that Android is becoming more stable as each day passes.

Message from testing company:

feedback from the test team is that this release is definitely more stable. Your devs have done a good job to make it more robust. We will naturally try and find any crashes but it is not crashing on simple actions like it was before.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 16, 2014, 06:21:09 am
The testing has gone well the testing company was able to crash the app only once in the latest crash testing session.  So good news the app has been stabilized but we will keep optimizing over the next few days and run more test sessions.

Will report again on this in a day or two.

So we have gone from 95% crashes per sessions rate to less than 5%.  And the last remaining ones we have fixed today so will try to get it to zero hopefully after today's testing.

So we had 1 crash during 1 hour & 30 minutes of sustained testing last night across 17 testers on 6 continents.









Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Wongi on October 16, 2014, 05:24:46 pm
Excellent news. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: cobaltskky on October 16, 2014, 05:33:14 pm
WINNING I'm excited to see this on the app store!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: theironman on October 16, 2014, 08:04:08 pm
WINNING I'm excited to see this on the app store!

This is the winner.
I can not wait to be part of this market interrupting technology :)

Keep up the good work.
Cheers!
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 17, 2014, 06:23:50 am
This is crazy wow ...opportunity. :)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/16/-sp-revealed-whisper-app-tracking-users
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: ThomasVeil on October 17, 2014, 08:25:18 am
This is crazy wow ...opportunity. :)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/16/-sp-revealed-whisper-app-tracking-users

Goddamn, those are some nasty bastards! Sounds more like an NSA project in the first place.
Would it be possible for your app to somehow ensure it can't send location (even of the mobile-receivers)? Would be a neat opportunity indeed if you could work with the Guardian.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 17, 2014, 11:04:57 am
This is crazy wow ...opportunity. :)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/16/-sp-revealed-whisper-app-tracking-users

Goddamn, those are some nasty bastards! Sounds more like an NSA project in the first place.
Would it be possible for your app to somehow ensure it can't send location (even of the mobile-receivers)? Would be a neat opportunity indeed if you could work with the Guardian.

Well we have no services which makes use of your location so we will try to avoid this function entirely.


Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: crumb-bum on October 17, 2014, 11:59:57 am
WINNING I'm excited to see this on the app store!

Me too! (Is it already available in the app store?)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 17, 2014, 12:01:23 pm
WINNING I'm excited to see this on the app store!

Me too! (Is it already available in the app store?)

Android launch October 28th.  :)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: crumb-bum on October 17, 2014, 12:25:56 pm
WINNING I'm excited to see this on the app store!

Me too! (Is it already available in the app store?)

Android launch October 28th.  :)

Nice! Thanks for the info, and good luck!

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 17, 2014, 08:00:15 pm
We are getting close to our goal of 0 crashes.


Today:

33 testers

5 continents

332 sessions

1 day & 6 hours of total time spent inside the app

2 crashes
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: rtrtcrypto on October 17, 2014, 09:13:26 pm
Getting anxious to see it launch! Best of luck... this is awesome.

We are getting close to our goal of 0 crashes.


Today:

33 testers

5 continents

332 sessions

1 day & 6 hours of total time spent inside the app

2 crashes
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: sparta_cuss on October 18, 2014, 02:02:16 am
Next test: Give it to 14-year-old girls on a Friday night. If it survives that without crashing, it's ready for launch.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: rubenbc on October 18, 2014, 02:32:07 am
I have a lot of people to test... we don't need schoolgirls jajaja.

we can be freedom!!
I'm ansious to download it

regards
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jabo38 on October 18, 2014, 03:42:43 am
I read about Nxtty and read that.....

 Nxtty is a new type of cryptomessenger which has the below features: CRYPTOMESSENGER - All messages are encrypted from app to app, so your messages are safe and secure.

MESSAGE DESTRUCTION - Automatic & manual message delete options provide you more ways to remove messages.

PRIVACY PROTECTION - Nxtty does not use your phone contact list or social media connections.

OPEN CHAT - Chat room style messaging open to anyone where you can post images, comments, links while discussing great topics.

TIPPING - Send Tips of Nxttycoins instead of likes, post great content and get Tipped in the Nxttycoin crypto currency.

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But here is a free multi-platform app called Telegram.  https://telegram.org/  It already has the core features of Nxtty like encrypted messaging that is only unencrypted client side using 56-bit symmetric AES encryption, RSA 2048 encryption and Diffie–Hellman secure key exchange.  It also allows for text message destruction.  A person can choose 1 minute, 1 hour, 1 day, 1 week, or 1 month. 

Furthermore, they allow anybody to review their code and APIs and vow to always be free as it is funded by a rich donor that believes in privacy rights of the individual.

As an investor, I am wondering what Nxxty can do for me better than Telegram.  I saw this infograph made by Nxxty to show how it is better than Whatsapp, but if compared to Telegram I don't see any advantage yet.  https://www.facebook.com/645168825569486/photos/pb.645168825569486.-2207520000.1410903497./661924550560580/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: indiamikezulu on October 18, 2014, 03:56:03 am
Good question! Sales folk make the mistake of not being up to speed on the competition. Let's forthrightly assess all competition, and practise differentiating ourselves.

Mark (IndiaMikeZulu), Australia
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: komputor on October 18, 2014, 05:22:45 am
Good find Jabo38. I think we all need to get used to cryptomessengers becoming more and more common and competition is inevitable in the near future.
One advantage of nxtty over telegram would be the integration of the in-app currency and economy. The chance to make pocket money by participating in a social network is a strong usp.

Landomata,

A couple of questions in my mind -

1. It is my understanding that the first 100,000 nxtty users would get 2500 nxtty coins each. However, since the android launch is 3-4 weeks before the iOS launch, wouldnt that be unfair to iOS users? Would it make sense to split it into first 50,000 nxtty users in Android and next 50,000 in iOS? Just a thought.
2. Are there any future plans as of now to make nxtty completely trustless? I mean no server-trust whatsoever. Also, based on the current architecture of the service, is it even possible to make it completely trustless in the near or distant future without impacting/disrupting service? I have a feeling that when there are many cryptomessengers available on devices in the future, 100% trustless messaging would be a strong USP.

Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 18, 2014, 05:30:38 am
I read about Nxtty and read that.....

 Nxtty is a new type of cryptomessenger which has the below features: CRYPTOMESSENGER - All messages are encrypted from app to app, so your messages are safe and secure.

MESSAGE DESTRUCTION - Automatic & manual message delete options provide you more ways to remove messages.

PRIVACY PROTECTION - Nxtty does not use your phone contact list or social media connections.

OPEN CHAT - Chat room style messaging open to anyone where you can post images, comments, links while discussing great topics.

TIPPING - Send Tips of Nxttycoins instead of likes, post great content and get Tipped in the Nxttycoin crypto currency.

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But here is a free multi-platform app called Telegram.  https://telegram.org/  It already has the core features of Nxtty like encrypted messaging that is only unencrypted client side using 56-bit symmetric AES encryption, RSA 2048 encryption and Diffie–Hellman secure key exchange.  It also allows for text message destruction.  A person can choose 1 minute, 1 hour, 1 day, 1 week, or 1 month. 

Furthermore, they allow anybody to review their code and APIs and vow to always be free as it is funded by a rich donor that believes in privacy rights of the individual.

As an investor, I am wondering what Nxxty can do for me better than Telegram.  I saw this infograph made by Nxxty to show how it is better than Whatsapp, but if compared to Telegram I don't see any advantage yet.  https://www.facebook.com/645168825569486/photos/pb.645168825569486.-2207520000.1410903497./661924550560580/?type=3&theater

We have studies Telegram closely from the beginning and the major difference is below:

1) Telegram has two modes of chat normal messaging & secret chat....

Taken from Telegram QA:

Q: How are secret chats different?
Secret chats are meant for people who want more security than the average fella. All messages in secret chats use end-to-end encryption. This means only you and the recipient can read those messages — nobody else can decipher them, including us here at Telegram. Messages cannot be forwarded from secret chats. You can also order your messages to self-destruct in a set amount of time after they have been read by the recipient. The message will then disappear from both your and your friend's devices.

One last difference between secret and ordinary chats in Telegram is that secret chats are not stored in our cloud. You can only access messages in a secret chat from their device of origin.

Q: How do I start a secret chat?
Start a new message (tap the icon in the top-right corner in Messages). Then ‘New secret chat’.

Remember that secret chats are device-specific. If you start a secret chat with a friend on one of your devices, this chat will only be available on that device. If you log out, you will lose all your secret chats. You can create as many different secret chats with the same contact as you like.

Q: How do self-destructing messages work?
The Self-Destruct Timer is available for Secret Сhats. To set the timer, go to Secret Chat Info (tap the small picture in the top-right corner of the chat screen), then Set Self-Destruct Timer to a desired time limit. The timer is applied to a message the moment it is displayed on the recipient's screen (two green checks). As soon as the time runs out, the message disappears from both devices and leaves no trace.

Please note that the timer only applies to messages that are sent after the timer was set. It has no effect on earlier messages.


HOW NXTTY IS DIFFERENT:


1) All normal chats are encrypted end to end by default.
2) Message delete is standard we have automatic & manual message destruction.
3) User owned (big one)
4) Nxttycoin cryptocurrency
5) OPEN CHAT where anyone can take part posting, links, photos or just great stuff.
6) Tipping
7) Wallet
8. The Nxt crypto protocol is opensource...so the platform which we are built on is opensource anyone can look at the code.


Nxtty is the worlds 1st mobile based social enterprise....welcome to the rise of the owner/user.

To be honest we have used Telegram + Whatsapp as our templates and we have innovated beyond them.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 18, 2014, 05:46:54 am
Good find Jabo38. I think we all need to get used to cryptomessengers becoming more and more common and competition is inevitable in the near future.
One advantage of nxtty over telegram would be the integration of the in-app currency and economy. The chance to make pocket money by participating in a social network is a strong usp.

Landomata,

A couple of questions in my mind -

1. It is my understanding that the first 100,000 nxtty users would get 2500 nxtty coins each. However, since the android launch is 3-4 weeks before the iOS launch, wouldnt that be unfair to iOS users? Would it make sense to split it into first 50,000 nxtty users in Android and next 50,000 in iOS? Just a thought.
2. Are there any future plans as of now to make nxtty completely trustless? I mean no server-trust whatsoever. Also, based on the current architecture of the service, is it even possible to make it completely trustless in the near or distant future without impacting/disrupting service? I have a feeling that when there are many cryptomessengers available on devices in the future, 100% trustless messaging would be a strong USP.

Yes that is the basis for NXTTYconomy....NXTTYconomy is why we are unique no other app in the world has this.  All other services we provide are auxiliary and supplement this larger concept.


Answers:

1) We are looking at some ratio but it also depends on how many Android users we get in the beginning.

2) Nxtty is trustless as we don't have any means of knowing who the users are.  We don't use phone number or social media for login, all messages are encrypted before they reach our servers, we don't provide password backup so we don't store our users passphrases.  Once we have a strong userbase then we can make the app fully open sourced.  Also bare in mind that the core of Nxtty is Nxt and that is opensource.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: Fatih87SK on October 18, 2014, 05:52:00 am
Nxtty will launch with more features than Whatsapp and Telegram combined.

And Nxtty is working already on an update which contains even more features that don't exists yet on the competition.

Forget Facebook, Twitter, Skype and Whatsapp. You can all do the same with one app and encrypted; Nxtty.

Ps. And you can earn money with Nxtty.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: swartzfeger on October 18, 2014, 05:55:51 am
Forget Facebook, Twitter, Skype and Whatsapp. You can all do the same with one app and encrypted; Nxtty.


Release a desktop PC/Mac app and you'll have a fan for life. :)
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: komputor on October 18, 2014, 06:01:00 am
2) Nxtty is trustless as we don't have any means of knowing who the users are.  We don't use phone number or social media for login, all messages are encrypted before they reach our servers, we don't provide password backup so we don't store our users passphrases.  Once we have a strong userbase then we can make the app fully open sourced.  Also bare in mind that the core of Nxtty is Nxt and that is opensource.

Thanks for your answers..

It is not the sniffing/snooping of messages that is my concern, open source code should take care of that. My concern is that the dependency on servers also comes along with a weak link in nxtty's armor against any and all centralized powers that would want to attack and shut down the service for whatever reasons that they may come up with. I don't understand the technicalities behind the working of such an app but how hard would it be to disrupt the service by targeting the servers that make nxtty possible?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 18, 2014, 06:25:06 am
2) Nxtty is trustless as we don't have any means of knowing who the users are.  We don't use phone number or social media for login, all messages are encrypted before they reach our servers, we don't provide password backup so we don't store our users passphrases.  Once we have a strong userbase then we can make the app fully open sourced.  Also bare in mind that the core of Nxtty is Nxt and that is opensource.

Thanks for your answers..

It is not the sniffing/snooping of messages that is my concern, open source code should take care of that. My concern is that the dependency on servers also comes along with a weak link in nxtty's armor against any and all centralized powers that would want to attack and shut down the service for whatever reasons that they may come up with. I don't understand the technicalities behind the working of such an app but how hard would it be to disrupt the service by targeting the servers that make nxtty possible?

OK i understand you mean the server infrastructure....well we have a worldwide server mesh but we have also tried to not put all our critical servers in countries that might take such actions.  We tried to build the service so that even if the majority of our servers go down we can still function.

Also we are doing nothing illegal so I don't think they will come after us....but we will always look to remedy this line of attack. 
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: devphp on October 18, 2014, 06:31:12 am
Have you also done simulated scale-up testing recently, to measure the number of simultaneous users who can connect and use your service? I've raised this issue a couple of months ago. It's one thing to have a super app, it's another to have it service hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of users at the same time. Can the server infrastructure be quickly scaled as demand goes up? Does growing of the server power linearly increase the number of simultaneous users Nxtty can service?
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 18, 2014, 06:42:20 am
Have you also done simulated scale-up testing recently, to measure the number of simultaneous users who can connect and use your service? I've raised this issue a couple of months ago. It's one thing to have a super app, it's another to have it service hundreds of thousands, possibly millions of users at the same time. Can the server infrastructure be quickly scaled as demand goes up? Does growing of the server power linearly increase the number of simultaneous users Nxtty can service?

We can handle millions on users right now on our server mesh.

Yes, we can quickly add more resources as the need arises.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: komputor on October 18, 2014, 06:56:44 am
I see, as long as steps are being taken to mitigate the risks of such a scenario, i guess it shouldn't be much of a worry at this point in time at least.

On a side note, I wonder when crypto-tech would evolve to a point where it can support massive platforms like FB but completely immune to any central points of failure other than EACH and EVERY node/participant/human being within the network which may be hundreds of millions of people ;D. That would be the holy grail of decentralized social networking.

Edit: Until then, hopefully nxtty will pave the way to making that a reality! Or maybe nxtty will transform at some point in the future into something like that!! Such exciting times we live in.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: devphp on October 18, 2014, 07:03:04 am
Perhaps Nxtty could implement two modes of messaging: normal one using servers, the other one for emergency cases - using NXT blockchain (slow and expensive but fault tolerant).
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: komputor on October 18, 2014, 07:14:22 am
Perhaps Nxtty could implement two modes of messaging: normal one using servers, the other one for emergency cases - using NXT blockchain (slow and expensive but fault tolerant).

That sounds like a great idea. It would be useful to have an "emergency mode" during dire situations where communication can still continue without disruption in exchange for a nominal fee.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: landomata on October 18, 2014, 07:47:58 am
Perhaps Nxtty could implement two modes of messaging: normal one using servers, the other one for emergency cases - using NXT blockchain (slow and expensive but fault tolerant).

That sounds like a great idea. It would be useful to have an "emergency mode" during dire situations where communication can still continue without disruption in exchange for a nominal fee.

They can always block the internet....we gotta look at something like Open garden...mesh networks. 

Its very rarely they shut down the cellular network
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: komputor on October 18, 2014, 08:18:34 am
True, however the cellular networks are being tapped. In this case, they have no backdoor whatsoever.
I think that at the rate at which encryption based tech is evolving, the future of centralized control and policing is very uncertain and the dynamics of that age old war of centralization vs. decentralization is changing rapidly. Such uncertainties are inevitable in paradigm-shifting technology. Only time will tell how this will all play out.
Title: Re: Nxtty, will it be the new WhatsApp? What affects will it have on the blockchain?
Post by: jabo38 on October 18, 2014, 05:23:12 pm
I read about Nxtty and read that.....

 Nxtty is a new type of cryptomessenger which has the below features: CRYPTOMESSENGER - All messages are encrypted from app to app, so your messages are safe and secure.

MESSAGE DESTRUCTION - Automatic & manual message delete options provide you more ways to remove messages.

PRIVACY PROTECTION - Nxtty does not use your phone contact list or social media connections.

OPEN CHAT - Chat room style messaging open to anyone where you can post images, comments, links while discussing great topics.

TIPPING - Send Tips of Nxttycoins instead of likes, post great content and get Tipped in the Nxttycoin crypto currency.

------------------

But here is a free multi-platform app called Telegram.  https://telegram.org/  It already has the core features of Nxtty like encrypted messaging that is only unencrypted client side using 56-bit symmetric AES encryption, RSA 2048 encryption and Diffie–Hellman secure key exchange.  It also allows for text message destruction.  A person can choose 1 minute, 1 hour, 1 day, 1 week, or 1 month. 

Furthermore, they allow anybody to review their code and APIs and vow to always be free as it is funded by a rich donor that believes in privacy rights of the individual.

As an investor, I am wondering what Nxxty can do for me better than Telegram.  I saw this infograph made by Nxxty to show how it is better than Whatsapp, but if compared to Telegram I don't see any advantage yet.  https://www.facebook.com/645168825569486/photos/pb.645168825569486.-2207520000.1410903497./661924550560580/?type=3&theater

We have studies Telegram closely from the beginning and the major diff