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Title: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: Damelon on February 10, 2016, 12:27:00 pm
You may all have seen the news about HyperLedger (https://www.hyperledger.org/news).

What we couldn't tell you until the PR from the Linux Foundation had gone out is that the Nxt Foundation has joined the Linux Foundation as an Affiliate Non-Profit Member and has also been accepted as a Affiliate Member of the HyperLedger Project!

We are happy to be a part of this, especially as we take the Linux Foundation as our model for our Foundation and the communication has been very cordial.

You cannot see us in the BIG list as we are not a Premium or Corporate Member as we do not have the capital to be one at the moment.

HyperLedger is just starting, and we expect this will have a very positive effect on our market position.

We are of course also talking to several other parties, but please understand that we cannot confirm anything until we get a "go" from any organisation. That's just the way things work.

Suffice to say we are working hard at all times to solidify our position in upcoming or existing collaboration projects. We hope to come out with more news soon!
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: Cassius on February 10, 2016, 12:31:01 pm
Oh yes!

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Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: yassin54 on February 10, 2016, 12:33:48 pm
Oh yes!

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HAHAHAHA!!!!  :D :D :D
You are crazy man!! jeje  ;D
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: capodieci on February 10, 2016, 12:36:27 pm
Thumbs up! Great news
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: Cassius on February 10, 2016, 12:36:54 pm
Oh yes!

(https://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/9/8/17/anigif_enhanced-buzz-7918-1347140266-13.gif)
HAHAHAHA!!!!  :D :D :D
You are crazy man!! jeje  ;D

Hm, now you know what I look like. Perhaps that wasn't so smart.
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: yassin54 on February 10, 2016, 12:48:52 pm
Tweeted!! https://twitter.com/NxtCommunity/status/697401081094086657  ;D
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: allwelder on February 10, 2016, 12:55:21 pm
Thanks for the hard works,Damelon. :)
But can not find where mentioned NXT? ???
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: maddy83 on February 10, 2016, 01:10:48 pm
Thanks Damelon, great news.

we expect this will have a very positive effect on our market position.

Do you mean the market value of NXT? Could you elaborate further on this? What kind of effects are you expecting?
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: TheWireMaster on February 10, 2016, 01:14:23 pm
Great! :)
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: yassin54 on February 10, 2016, 01:18:20 pm
Oh yes!

(https://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/9/8/17/anigif_enhanced-buzz-7918-1347140266-13.gif)
HAHAHAHA!!!!  :D :D :D
You are crazy man!! jeje  ;D

Hm, now you know what I look like. Perhaps that wasn't so smart.
and me!!  ;D ;D
[(http://i65.tinypic.com/2m34k0j.gif)
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: LocoMB on February 10, 2016, 01:27:45 pm
a very good and solid step in the right direction!

THIS is exactly what distinguishes NXT from corporate orgs like Etherium, Ripple, Blockstream and all those other VC driven constructs!
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: rubenbc on February 10, 2016, 01:28:51 pm
happy!! great!!! :)
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: MrCluster87 on February 10, 2016, 01:39:58 pm
This is so Cool!!  Great news!! C'mon let's join the effort!!

EB73 – Dan O’Prey & Daniel Feichtinger: Hyperledger Decentralised Ledger Platform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW0typlxll8
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: crimi on February 10, 2016, 02:14:33 pm
a very good and solid step in the right direction!

THIS is exactly what distinguishes NXT from corporate orgs like Etherium, Ripple, Blockstream and all those other VC driven constructs!

I highly doubt that the linux foundation(R3) is less VC driven. Nxt will fail without VC money in the long term.

http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/announcements/2015/12/linux-foundation-unites-industry-leaders-advance-blockchain
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: farl4bit on February 10, 2016, 02:36:05 pm
Great job!!  :) :) :)

(tweeted)
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: Peter2516 on February 10, 2016, 06:28:17 pm
Sounds cool, but what does it mean to be an Affiliate Member of those? :)
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: AQQA on February 10, 2016, 07:35:20 pm
How much is a premium/corporate sponsorship and, in addition to publicity, what would that get NXT in terms, voting rights, priority, etc? Not to second guess this at all--this is awesome news and great job all around. Thank you Damelon and the other elite NXTers for all you do.

I'm asking because, IF a higher-level sponsorship makes sense, would a TNSSE-style fundraising effort be worth a shot to obtain the sponsorship costs from the community?
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: EvilDave on February 10, 2016, 09:25:08 pm
The fee for Affiliate membership of the Linux Foundation for a non-profit organisation (like the Nxt Foundation  ;D ) isn't expensive, and we did get a discount. :D

We all like Linux and the tenets of the open source movement, so it's just a good idea in every way to forge closer ties with them.
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: 3rdStryker on February 11, 2016, 04:38:35 am
It sounds great but I'm confused on what being an Affiliate Member actually means?
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: EvilDave on February 11, 2016, 07:57:32 am
It means a lot of things, potentially. Depends what we do with it....

For example,  the Nxt Foundation now has something like 0.2% of the voting rights for the Linux Foundation,  we have access to (and possibly even input to) the HyperLedger project and other LF projects.

Joining the LF will also help with generally raising the profile of Nxt within the Linux community, and puts us in the same space as a LOT of corporate players.
Check out the LF, and see what the possibilities are:

http://www.linuxfoundation.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Foundation

And I haven't even mentioned that by supporting the LF, we are directly supporting the Open Source movement.  ;D
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: capodieci on February 11, 2016, 11:06:17 am
The NRS should be included with any distribution of Debian releases :)

R
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: lurker10 on February 11, 2016, 11:12:19 am
The NRS should be included with any distribution of Debian releases :)

R

PPA repository with Ubuntu and Debian packages would be convenient.
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: AQQA on February 11, 2016, 04:07:49 pm
I'm not sure that throwing money into sponsorship in a Linux environment would necessarily gain adoption. Great programs and software suites seem to emerge all of the time. Having a great tool for the job is probably more important IMHO, and we have that. Having a good relationship with the Linux community is an awesome step forward though, and this is great news. I'm just saying don't necessarily chuck a bunch of Tennessee money into it because if it's good then the community will react accordingly anyway.

Top work, guys. :)

A good point. I agree Linux's (and maybe the open source ecosystem at large's) more organic adoption may not be served by trying to push NXT too aggressively, lest we go past promotion into perceived shilling. While I trust that Damelon, EvilDave, JL777 and others have many irons in the fire that continue to reinforce the small-f foundation, I wonder what other large-scale avenues NXT--its core, supporters, and advocates in the community--can continue to target that may be 1) unaware of NXT's platform offerings, 2) well served by its relatively modular flexibility, and 3) tie directly into a large user base that expands beyond the typical crypto-adept population without going against the philosophy of NXT. I.e., I wonder how many NXTers want to see NXT tied in much with R3CEV (beyond the desire for a higher potential valuation)

That said, the idea of the NXT NRS being the MS/OpenOffice-style "default", easy, free, and ready-to-go toolkit for businesses
-group voting (of owners, shareholders or even customers)
-recording ownership (singleton assets or otherwise)
-reward points (as an MS currency)
-fundraising/rewards (in the form of dividends on assets)
-etc.

seems appealing and a natural fit, not even touching on the current and future DeBuNe-specific additions.

I suspect capodieci's note about making the NRS included with distro releases was half-joking, but I can hardly imagine a better inclusion for a small business/freelancer looking to build an infrastructure inexpensively with Linux. Wwhat a huge accomplishment that would be; maybe raspbian/noobs/ubuntu to start ;). Hopefully that could be a real consideration down the line as the Linux foundation relationship grows!

Thanks to all the NXTers driving this forward. I hope to find the niche I can add value to and join the ranks. :)
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: jabo38 on February 11, 2016, 06:04:14 pm
What we couldn't tell you until the PR from the Linux Foundation had gone..........

Congratulations Damelon. 

And to everyone else, I want to say that real deals can not ever be announced before hand.  I have learned this the hard way. 

Anytime you see somebody announcing a big partnership with a large known organization and especially a publicly traded company you have to sign a NDA.  This means you are not able to talk about it at all. 

So when some app says they will work with Citibank, they are lying if Citibank didn't announce it first in a press release.  Or if some project says they are working with a big company, again they are lying and it is a pump.  These guys saying they have "big news" are just pumping, because if they did have big news and they were leaking it they would be risking getting sued or worse. 

Real news just gets dropped like Damelon just did out of nowhere.  I hope in the future there can be more announcements like this. 
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: EvilDave on February 11, 2016, 10:33:21 pm
Thanks, @jabo38  :D

Yes....integration of Nxt with some Linux distros, and/or creating repos for the main Linux distros would be very good things to have.

As ever: we can think/brainstorm about this, but to make it happen we will need someone to step up and actually put the work in.
Any volunteers ?
I can promise some bounty from TNSSE funds..... :-X

@AQQA: yep, we're not planning on shilling NXT or on getting too far into bed with R3, you'll be happy to hear.
What we will be doing is building a relationship and helping to further the aims of the OS movement, but we don't have any grand plans beyond that.
The LF Affiliate Membership felt like a perfect fit for Nxt, and (being economical) only cost the same as one press release.
I think it's worth it, but time will tell.
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: AQQA on February 11, 2016, 10:57:11 pm
@AQQA: yep, we're not planning on shilling NXT or on getting too far into bed with R3, you'll be happy to hear.
What we will be doing is building a relationship and helping to further the aims of the OS movement, but we don't have any grand plans beyond that.
The LF Affiliate Membership felt like a perfect fit for Nxt, and (being economical) only cost the same as one press release.
I think it's worth it, but time will tell.


Thanks for the explanation; I'm excited to see how this continues to grow.
I wish I could take on some of this work but I have practically no coding experience...slowly working to rectify that shortcoming, but it'll be a while till I can contribute anything of note. Nonetheless, will be reaching out and working on some summary writing.

+1440
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: EvilDave on February 11, 2016, 11:11:48 pm
Being honest, coders are useful, but we also need people who can simply represent Nxt in a reasonably professional way to the outside world.
Or write...or edit the Wiki.... ;D
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: AQQA on February 11, 2016, 11:40:10 pm
Being honest, coders are useful, but we also need people who can simply represent Nxt in a reasonably professional way to the outside world.
Or write...or edit the Wiki.... ;D

That I can do. Where should I get started?
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: neofelis on February 12, 2016, 02:41:37 am
Kudos to Damelon.

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: capodieci on February 12, 2016, 04:28:54 am
Being honest, coders are useful, but we also need people who can simply represent Nxt in a reasonably professional way to the outside world.
Or write...or edit the Wiki.... ;D

This people need support tho.
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: EvilDave on February 17, 2016, 11:52:25 pm
OK....anyone want to go to beautiful Lake Tahoe, California ?

http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/collaboration-summit

 (http://i66.tinypic.com/j93uck.jpg)  (http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/collaboration-summit)

Check out the conference info: this is intended to be a very high level, invitation-only conference/networking opportunity. It would be very good to have an Nxt presence there, but we will need someone who can work at the Summits intended level.
If any Nxt'er thinks they can handle this...let me know, and we'll get working on an invite. 
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: MrCluster87 on March 27, 2016, 02:16:11 pm
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Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: HCLivess on May 04, 2016, 07:19:26 am
this does not mean jack shit. try looking up NXT on the website, haha
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: wolffang on May 04, 2016, 07:26:27 am
this does not mean jack shit. try looking up NXT on the website, haha

Yeah the old negative one on top :(
Title: Re: Nxt Foundation has joined Linux Foundation and HyperLedger!
Post by: Damelon on May 04, 2016, 08:36:48 am
this does not mean jack shit. try looking up NXT on the website, haha

I agree.

Forging lasting connections with industry leaders and experienced people is much less important than having a logo on a site!

/sarcasm
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