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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #80 on: December 18, 2014, 09:21:29 pm »

I will concentrate on the NxtOrganization, as I think people can't put in a significant amount of time and work into several businesses/groups/ventures.

Therefore I mostly stay out of this discussion, as people mostly want to benefit themselves.

As far as I remembered, the members are getting paid. How much? How often? Hourly based or project based? Also, there still need to be a vote held on the self nominated members here. Else it would be just a minority (by 1 person, the self nominated user) decision.


For me the best option is the splitting of 25% for NxtOrg, 25% NxtFoundation and 50% for developers held by pouncer and neer.g. New group formations always take a long time until they really take of. The two already established groups (NxtOrg&NxtFound) are here already and working. Why take the risk of another group, which might not work at all?

This is my opinion and not the opinion of the NxtOrg. :)
I will work without any pay for this.

I am against pre-allocating any funds to any private groups. the committee should evaluate any and all external and internal proposals and decide on a case by case basis.

James

Why do you keep using this misleading terminology and referring to NxtFoundation and NxtOrganization as "private groups" as if this committee structure is different? NxtOrg has opened it's doors to anyone on this forum numerous times, we are IDENTICALLY open as this committee structure. Unless someone sends a message to every adress on the blockchain and use Voting System to decide, it would be impossible to draw a distinction between what is happening in this committee vs the organization vs the foundation.


And while I share your concern for the long term development of the platform Nxt, more importantly is actually the fact that very few people use Nxt. Nxt has a lot of great technology, which is why projects like yours and mine use it, but unless we manage to capture new people from OUTSIDE Nxt, it wont matter. Ignore the crash and burnt value and volume of Nxt, Just check the forum stats, check the blockchain stats, check google analytics stats. The conclusion is not even up for discussion: Nxt is dying. There is a reason this committee project, like Damelon put it, ended up a total failure: no one cares anymore. Just a few months back when we started Nxt Organization there was a ton of people engaged in the debate and people signing up, this does not happen anymore.


Having the best technology does not mean jack shit, adoption is everything. There are numerous examples of sub-par technology having monopolies simply due to adoption vs superior technologies not having any users. Nxt became yet another such example. I've been saying this since day 1 and nothing has changed. Nxt is infected with this idiotic mindstate and doesn't change and consequently doesn't grow. Developers, marketers, users, everyone is abandoning Nxt at a steady rate. Unless something radically changes in the next 3 months I predict Nxt is dead by May
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you became a troll too James?
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #81 on: December 18, 2014, 09:22:04 pm »

Unique:
Jesus, mate, could you be much more negative ?
Apart from the price (which isn't all that bad, considering the state of crypto) I'm seeing Nxt in a good positon right now.......we have the technology, we have a load of good projects running on Nxt, with more coming up. Our reputation within the crypto world is at an all time high, and MS is about to make a lot of alts completely obsolete.

I really can't see how you can justify your post, we are in a strong position right now.

I am not being negative towards Nxt technology or Nxt in an isolated view. But I am seeing the bigger picture of crypto and Nxts place within said picture and to me it's not looking good. I would be delighted, absolutely delighted to be proven wrong, as that would mean I am set for life. But I am able to ignore my own wishful-thinking biases and look at the facts:

Users = down
Developers = down
Marketers = down
Price = down
Volume = down
Competitors = up


I also know of some really good news for Nxt that will be coming out in the next weeks, including some really cool projects that has sprung up recently by genius minds, but my thinking has been proven right for a year, so I don't expect it to suddenly shift unless we actually DO something about it, no. Which is why I advocate for giving the Nxt DIRECTLY to those that can and more importantly WANT to push Nxt forward. Like I said in that other post, if we manage to get some wind back in our sails that could cause a positive snowballing effect for Nxt. But this wont happen just because we have some cool technology. Nxt has had the best platform for a year, no one really gives a shit about that. This is just how reality works. Like I said on the good old next forum owned by Graviton last December:

"There is a Mozart playing the piano in his basement somewhere that you'll never be aware of, yet everyone has heard of Justin Bieber"


Marketing = adoption, adoption = growth
I know, we should all just send all our NXT to you since you are the smartest one around here.
what is your NXT address, I will send you all my NXT

James
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #82 on: December 18, 2014, 09:24:05 pm »

Unique:
Jesus, mate, could you be much more negative ?
Apart from the price (which isn't all that bad, considering the state of crypto) I'm seeing Nxt in a good positon right now.......we have the technology, we have a load of good projects running on Nxt, with more coming up. Our reputation within the crypto world is at an all time high, and MS is about to make a lot of alts completely obsolete.

I really can't see how you can justify your post, we are in a strong position right now.

I am not being negative towards Nxt technology or Nxt in an isolated view. But I am seeing the bigger picture of crypto and Nxts place within said picture and to me it's not looking good. I would be delighted, absolutely delighted to be proven wrong, as that would mean I am set for life. But I am able to ignore my own wishful-thinking biases and look at the facts:

Users = down
Developers = down
Marketers = down
Price = down
Volume = down
Competitors = up


I also know of some really good news for Nxt that will be coming out in the next weeks, including some really cool projects that has sprung up recently by genius minds, but my thinking has been proven right for a year, so I don't expect it to suddenly shift unless we actually DO something about it, no. Which is why I advocate for giving the Nxt DIRECTLY to those that can and more importantly WANT to push Nxt forward. Like I said in that other post, if we manage to get some wind back in our sails that could cause a positive snowballing effect for Nxt. But this wont happen just because we have some cool technology. Nxt has had the best platform for a year, no one really gives a shit about that. This is just how reality works. Like I said on the good old next forum owned by Graviton last December:

"There is a Mozart playing the piano in his basement somewhere that you'll never be aware of, yet everyone has heard of Justin Bieber"


Marketing = adoption, adoption = growth
I know, we should all just send all our NXT to you since you are the smartest one around here.
what is your NXT address, I will send you all my NXT

James

Yes James, exactly. Except for the fact that I have already stated that I would get exactly 0% of this money and don't want any of the money, I want the money to go to those who are working in the NxtFoundation and NxtOrganization. Trolling is not your suit
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #83 on: December 18, 2014, 09:30:22 pm »

I think in the long run NXT has 2 options to survive:

1.) Adopt a MS currency with huge user base & fair distribution and spread it into the world
2.) Refocus from cryptocurrency to service provider. This means focusing much more on AE and stuff like that and allow other, successful currencies to allow our service.

We all know that NXT distribution is too shitty
what is the burn rate of NXT?
what people that dont understand crypto do is to apply real world thinking to it. This is not optimal. Contrary to what emules are saying the usage levels are actually going up. In spite of all the gloom and doom talk, what AE platform is getting more actual usage than all others combined?

So, to say the end is coming in 6 months to the platform that has succeeded more than all the other asset platforms combined, well I use the term "emule" for a reason.

With all the regulations and most the other platforms within reach of the regulations, which platform is positioned to survive?

Now please think about this. At any moment in time a company that wants to do a crypto project will make a decision which platform to use. Maybe network effect forces people to keep making Windows versions, but all developers are praying for the day when it stops being a viable platform. And linux survived for many years, cuz it has constantly been the best platform to create new projects on.

The day NXT tech is not the best crypto platform for new projects, that is the day it will begin to stop growing. Now this is a complex issue, so you can choose to listen to emule and uniquorn who has achieved exactly what for NXT? Or me.

Your choice.

James
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #84 on: December 18, 2014, 09:30:52 pm »

Yes, this hightlights exactly what I am saying: we are this isolated island. There is activity within the NXT ecosystem, but there is little new blood coming in and so the situation remains the same.

Meanwhile, in our 1 year old isolated island,

For now the task #1 is to polish & support Voting System & 2-Phased Transactions until production, and build theoretical basis for Forging 2.0 implementation (Transparent Forging/Economic Clusters/Anti Deflation in BCNext tree if I understand his ideas in the right way), and the implementation will be task #1 for the first half of 2015.

Below u'll find a short description of Nxt mining system. The description is based on text written by BCNext, I paraphrase it in my own words to protect BCNext's real identity against text style analysis (as was agreed).
And the most important feature:

The network can detect which miners don't take part in block generation and act accordingly.

So, what does make Nxt a really next-gen currency? Not those nice features like decentralized exchange, or decentralized DNS, or decentralized app store. The transparent mining algo does, and this is only the 1st part of BCNext's plan...

I'm not that much into doomsday scenarios. Is this one? Who are our competitors?

Anyways, this is getting OT. As seen so many times before.

Maybe you could be external advisor for CFC, since you can't run. What *shit* is needed to be done, in your opinion? It might help discussing that. And I'm not trolling here, I mean it. What do you suggest?

EDIT: fixed typo
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #85 on: December 18, 2014, 09:32:51 pm »

Unique:
Jesus, mate, could you be much more negative ?
Apart from the price (which isn't all that bad, considering the state of crypto) I'm seeing Nxt in a good positon right now.......we have the technology, we have a load of good projects running on Nxt, with more coming up. Our reputation within the crypto world is at an all time high, and MS is about to make a lot of alts completely obsolete.

I really can't see how you can justify your post, we are in a strong position right now.

I am not being negative towards Nxt technology or Nxt in an isolated view. But I am seeing the bigger picture of crypto and Nxts place within said picture and to me it's not looking good. I would be delighted, absolutely delighted to be proven wrong, as that would mean I am set for life. But I am able to ignore my own wishful-thinking biases and look at the facts:

Users = down
Developers = down
Marketers = down
Price = down
Volume = down
Competitors = up


I also know of some really good news for Nxt that will be coming out in the next weeks, including some really cool projects that has sprung up recently by genius minds, but my thinking has been proven right for a year, so I don't expect it to suddenly shift unless we actually DO something about it, no. Which is why I advocate for giving the Nxt DIRECTLY to those that can and more importantly WANT to push Nxt forward. Like I said in that other post, if we manage to get some wind back in our sails that could cause a positive snowballing effect for Nxt. But this wont happen just because we have some cool technology. Nxt has had the best platform for a year, no one really gives a shit about that. This is just how reality works. Like I said on the good old next forum owned by Graviton last December:

"There is a Mozart playing the piano in his basement somewhere that you'll never be aware of, yet everyone has heard of Justin Bieber"


Marketing = adoption, adoption = growth
I know, we should all just send all our NXT to you since you are the smartest one around here.
what is your NXT address, I will send you all my NXT

James

Yes James, exactly. Except for the fact that I have already stated that I would get exactly 0% of this money and don't want any of the money, I want the money to go to those who are working in the NxtFoundation and NxtOrganization. Trolling is not your suit
You are making the FUD for NXT while claiming you have done all these wonderful things for NXT.

Please name all the wonderful things. I can think of the fiat gateway project you wanted 5 million NXT for, what was it called? bithaus, no nxthaus. Yes, fantastic part of the NXT ecosystem you have brought for us.

You advocating spending a lot of money, that is the solution to everything to you.

James
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #86 on: December 18, 2014, 09:39:22 pm »

I will concentrate on the NxtOrganization, as I think people can't put in a significant amount of time and work into several businesses/groups/ventures.

Therefore I mostly stay out of this discussion, as people mostly want to benefit themselves.

As far as I remembered, the members are getting paid. How much? How often? Hourly based or project based? Also, there still need to be a vote held on the self nominated members here. Else it would be just a minority (by 1 person, the self nominated user) decision.


For me the best option is the splitting of 25% for NxtOrg, 25% NxtFoundation and 50% for developers held by pouncer and neer.g. New group formations always take a long time until they really take of. The two already established groups (NxtOrg&NxtFound) are here already and working. Why take the risk of another group, which might not work at all?

This is my opinion and not the opinion of the NxtOrg. :)
I will work without any pay for this.

I am against pre-allocating any funds to any private groups. the committee should evaluate any and all external and internal proposals and decide on a case by case basis.

James

Why do you keep using this misleading terminology and referring to NxtFoundation and NxtOrganization as "private groups" as if this committee structure is different? NxtOrg has opened it's doors to anyone on this forum numerous times, we are IDENTICALLY open as this committee structure. Unless someone sends a message to every adress on the blockchain and use Voting System to decide, it would be impossible to draw a distinction between what is happening in this committee vs the organization vs the foundation.


And while I share your concern for the long term development of the platform Nxt, more importantly is actually the fact that very few people use Nxt. Nxt has a lot of great technology, which is why projects like yours and mine use it, but unless we manage to capture new people from OUTSIDE Nxt, it wont matter. Ignore the crash and burnt value and volume of Nxt, Just check the forum stats, check the blockchain stats, check google analytics stats. The conclusion is not even up for discussion: Nxt is dying. There is a reason this committee project, like Damelon put it, ended up a total failure: no one cares anymore. Just a few months back when we started Nxt Organization there was a ton of people engaged in the debate and people signing up, this does not happen anymore.


Having the best technology does not mean jack shit, adoption is everything. There are numerous examples of sub-par technology having monopolies simply due to adoption vs superior technologies not having any users. Nxt became yet another such example. I've been saying this since day 1 and nothing has changed. Nxt is infected with this idiotic mindstate and doesn't change and consequently doesn't grow. Developers, marketers, users, everyone is abandoning Nxt at a steady rate. Unless something radically changes in the next 3 months I predict Nxt is dead by May
hello emule

you became a troll too James?
yup! I am your personal troll. I dont like you. I dont like how you behave. you use your sockpuppets, it is dishonest, yet you claim to be the great positive force for NXT, when all you do it hurt it.

many people left NXT specifically because of you and your abrasive manner. Since you sound halfway credible and you are spouting nonsense,  I need to discredit you so that people wont start worrying needlessly.

Remember when you were pushing real hard for Isle of Mann crytpo paradise? And I said, that is the wrong path and there is no assurance that one day the bigger fiat govts wouldnt squeeze the IoM to cave into their desires. Within a few months, what happened? where is the Isle of Mann crypto paradise? So you were wrong on that one, but you keep coming back with doom and gloom.

It is curious that both you and emule are back at the same time. I just put two and two together

James
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #87 on: December 18, 2014, 09:47:27 pm »

Which is why I advocate for giving the Nxt DIRECTLY to those that can and more importantly WANT to push Nxt forward.

So the Nxt should be given directly to anyone who thinks they know how to spend it for the good of Nxt? So if another few Nxters banded together today, put up a website and came up with a fancy name, they should get an equal share of Nxt with the Foundation and Nxt Org? What about another two groups? Maybe the MGW team know how to spend to improve Nxt? Maybe DoM P's group do?

Ugh, why do people CHOOSE to misinterpret and misunderstand just to argue?

"If a few other Nxters", inside the Nxt foundation and Nxt organization are people who all have worked on NXT the longest and hardest. And like I just said: the groups are obviously open ( at least Nxt Org is and Nxt Foundation was when formed ) to accepting in new members. DoM P was actually invited and chose to be a non-partisan member, so yea he's covered too.
 
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If you think you should be trusted to spend money, then why not put your name forward for election to this committee? Or if you have great ideas, you can just put them to the committee after it is elected, and you should have no problem being funded, so it should end up the same difference, no.

I stepped down from the organization 2 months ago due to the fact that I have other obligations that take up all my time, so again your question doesn't apply to me at all.
The point here is that it's better to get shit done than not, pretty simple concept you should be able to wrap your head around.


A lot of discussion moved to slack in case you have missed it. We have gained a lot of longterm users in the past weeks with SuperNET.

Which competitors are up? Bitcoin? Litecoin? Dogecoin? Darkcoin? Monero? Blackcoin? XC? Vericoin?


I have not missed it, I say look at the overall data.
And competitors up = yes pretty much every other project has been able to bootstrap and establish themselves. NXT had an unprescedented window of oppourtunity as a first-mover in the 2.0 space, we did not capitalize on it. As a consequence we are ranked #14 on volume, which is the most important metric.

I cannot fathom how anyone can look at the evolution of NXT in the last 6 months and think "Oh we're doing well"
They would look at the API that is now vs 6 months ago and the details of the testnet release.
Since you are not a coder you dont understand how fast NXT is evolving. Maybe you need to go to ripple? they have   a lot of volume so they are the most successful non BTC crypto, right?

plz stop posting nonsense
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #88 on: December 18, 2014, 09:54:22 pm »

*BUMP*

So to sum up, make sure everyone is on the same page:

Signups:
1. Jones (TECH)
2. FumanChu (COMM)
3. jl777 (TECH) *disputed
4. CFA Consulting (TRES)
4. CFA Consulting (COMM)
4bis. Dom P (TRES)
5. RudeBoi (TRES) *other thread
6. L8orre (ANYWHERE) *possibly busy
7. EvilDave (CHAIR) *willing
8. Damelon (CHAIR/COMM)

*9. Cassius (SECRETARY) *suggested by EvilDave
*10. neer.g/pouncer (TRES) *suggested by EvilDave

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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #89 on: December 18, 2014, 09:56:09 pm »

So to sum up, make sure everyone is on the same page:

Signups:
1. Jones (TECH)
2. FumanChu (COMM)
3. jl777 (TECH) *disputed
4. CFA Consulting (TRES)
5. RudeBoi (TRES) *other thread
6. L8orre (ANYWHERE) *possibly busy
7. EvilDave (CHAIR) *willing
8. Damelon (CHAIR/COMM)

*9. Cassius (SECRETARY) *suggested by EvilDave
*10. neer.g/pouncer (TRES) *suggested by EvilDave

Also speculated that the funds should go to:
1. 50/50 to the already founded committees (NXT ORG/Foundation)
2. all to devs
3. some to devs
4. superbowl ad/something with chocolate
5. send to genesis (destroy)

My favorite idea:
1. Committee is formed somehow
2. Committee uses funds to start up internal (NRS) and external (apps) within the nxt framework
3. Committee monitors these projects and makes sure the funds are used well by these groups
4. Projects that were funded then do their own marketing for their own product
5. Nxt is used as the center, so when that project succeeds, nxt succeeds

To sum up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8To-6VIJZRE

You missed me. :(
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #90 on: December 18, 2014, 10:02:02 pm »

You missed me. :(

In technology, you do a good job when nobody notices you  ;D
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #91 on: December 18, 2014, 10:02:50 pm »


yup! I am your personal troll. I dont like you. I dont like how you behave. you use your sockpuppets, it is dishonest, yet you claim to be the great positive force for NXT, when all you do it hurt it.


This'll be my last reply to you since all you do is lie and talk crap.
First let's adress that ridiculous first post of yours:

This is like the 10th time that you have started a discussion with me, where you refer to things that are not even in reality. Now I understand what you meant when you told me of your past and how your mind is really, really fragile. I think you need a vacation.

And also NxtHaus was something Wesley brought to me which everyone was very much for. The announcement of NxtHaus also pushed NXT Price up like 30%, prior to it growing again in syngery after Overstock announced talks with NXT, so yeah James, go back to then and see, that was actually the peak of NXT. So yes I have absolutely no problems with being majorly responsible for that peak. Hell, the NxtHaus assets you issued was also the beginning of your empire, when people saw the money you could make on thsoe assets, you decided to make more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and you still haven't stopped, because hey, the rich always wants more.

But unlike you, Nxthaus wanted to do things properly. (and have been doing things properly with an imminent launch) I.E. be a serious, public and a transparent actor to give Nxt and crypto acceptance in the *real world* where you can actually make a difference. But in the real world, there is beauracracy, there is regulations, there are problems that need to be overcome which costs money and time. But at the end of the day, you get something real. The same thing I offered to help you with, when you just rejected it and instead wanted to create your own digitized sovereign nation where no rules or laws apply. The anarchists fantasyland. This is also the reason Wesley abandoned your project.

I still stand by all of that today, which is why I stopped giving a fuck about your ventures, because it's literally impossible to help you, you think reality don't apply to you or Nxt.  So you get mad everytime someone remind you to take your pills.


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many people left NXT specifically because of you and your abrasive manner. Since you sound halfway credible and you are spouting nonsense,  I need to discredit you so that people wont start worrying needlessly.

Show me one James.

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Remember when you were pushing real hard for Isle of Mann crytpo paradise? And I said, that is the wrong path and there is no assurance that one day the bigger fiat govts wouldnt squeeze the IoM to cave into their desires. Within a few months, what happened? where is the Isle of Mann crypto paradise? So you were wrong on that one, but you keep coming back with doom and gloom.

Crypto is actually moving forth on Isle of Man James. I told you that I could help you get setup with YOUR ventures on Isle of Man, and again I stand by my statement that it would be the best option *if* you wanted to actually create something out of these infinite assets you keep issuing. Personally I don't even mind taxes. Philosophically I agree with taxes *on some things*. I am not an anarchist like you.

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It is curious that both you and emule are back at the same time. I just put two and two together

James

This is so beneath me that I wont even... Instead I'll just remind myself that when CIYAM was pushing you out of NXT and we had that long talk where you revealed your past, you gave me quite intimate details of your past and how your mind "works" and believe that this is just your mind caving in, rather than you actually being a bad person.
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #92 on: December 18, 2014, 10:04:59 pm »

So to sum up, make sure everyone is on the same page:

Signups:
1. Jones (TECH)
2. FumanChu (COMM)
3. jl777 (TECH) *disputed
4. CFA Consulting (COMM)
4bis. DomP (TRES)
5. RudeBoi (TRES) *other thread
6. L8orre (ANYWHERE) *possibly busy
7. EvilDave (CHAIR) *willing
8. Damelon (CHAIR/COMM)
9. ChuckOne (TECH)
10. Pouncer (TRES)

*9. Cassius (SECRETARY) *suggested by EvilDave
*10. neer.g (TRES) *suggested by EvilDave

Also speculated that the funds should go to:
1. 50/50 to the already founded committees (NXT ORG/Foundation)
2. all to devs
3. some to devs
4. superbowl ad/something with chocolate
5. send to genesis (destroy)

My favorite idea:
1. Committee is formed somehow
2. Committee uses funds to start up internal (NRS) and external (apps) within the nxt framework
3. Committee monitors these projects and makes sure the funds are used well by these groups
4. Projects that were funded then do their own marketing for their own product
5. Nxt is used as the center, so when that project succeeds, nxt succeeds

To sum up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8To-6VIJZRE

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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #93 on: December 18, 2014, 10:15:10 pm »

Anyways, this is getting OT. As seen so many times before.

Maybe you could be external advisor for CFC, since you can't run. What *shit* is needed to be done, in your opinion? It might help discussing that. And I'm not trolling here, I mean it. What do you suggest?

EDIT: fixed typo


I have already stated it 100 times. I am proposing to compensate those who really do great work for Nxt (like yourself) and create initiative to make a change. Damelon, Evil Dave and their group has done a lot of great things, so has members of the Nxt Organization, so what I am saying: give these people the funds to do something with.

Nxt needs exposure OUTSIDE of Nxt. Regardless of how much crack James smokes, the truth is in the statistics, go to the Facebook page, twitter page, subreddit, forum registrations, visitors on websites. Nxt is not growing. There is transactions on the blockchain between Nxters, but that's not how you GROW. We need Nxt to reach people outside, the 3-500 or so active Nxters enjoying the technology is really good and all, but it's not changing the world.

Look at the volume and price of Nxt, it's down over 80%. This is not me fudding, I have a huge incentive for Nxt to win this race and I thoroughly believe in the technology. But Nxt NEEDS to get "out there" and I honestly believe our best shot is to incentivize the active people, which will then make a change, which will inspire others, like we've seen before
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« Reply #94 on: December 18, 2014, 10:19:30 pm »


yup! I am your personal troll. I dont like you. I dont like how you behave. you use your sockpuppets, it is dishonest, yet you claim to be the great positive force for NXT, when all you do it hurt it.


This'll be my last reply to you since all you do is lie and talk crap.
First let's adress that ridiculous first post of yours:

This is like the 10th time that you have started a discussion with me, where you refer to things that are not even in reality. Now I understand what you meant when you told me of your past and how your mind is really, really fragile. I think you need a vacation.

And also NxtHaus was something Wesley brought to me which everyone was very much for. The announcement of NxtHaus also pushed NXT Price up like 30%, prior to it growing again in syngery after Overstock announced talks with NXT, so yeah James, go back to then and see, that was actually the peak of NXT. So yes I have absolutely no problems with being majorly responsible for that peak. Hell, the NxtHaus assets you issued was also the beginning of your empire, when people saw the money you could make on thsoe assets, you decided to make more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and you still haven't stopped, because hey, the rich always wants more.

But unlike you, Nxthaus wanted to do things properly. (and have been doing things properly with an imminent launch) I.E. be a serious, public and a transparent actor to give Nxt and crypto acceptance in the *real world* where you can actually make a difference. But in the real world, there is beauracracy, there is regulations, there are problems that need to be overcome which costs money and time. But at the end of the day, you get something real. The same thing I offered to help you with, when you just rejected it and instead wanted to create your own digitized sovereign nation where no rules or laws apply. The anarchists fantasyland. This is also the reason Wesley abandoned your project.

I still stand by all of that today, which is why I stopped giving a fuck about your ventures, because it's literally impossible to help you, you think reality don't apply to you or Nxt.  So you get mad everytime someone remind you to take your pills.


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many people left NXT specifically because of you and your abrasive manner. Since you sound halfway credible and you are spouting nonsense,  I need to discredit you so that people wont start worrying needlessly.

Show me one James.

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Remember when you were pushing real hard for Isle of Mann crytpo paradise? And I said, that is the wrong path and there is no assurance that one day the bigger fiat govts wouldnt squeeze the IoM to cave into their desires. Within a few months, what happened? where is the Isle of Mann crypto paradise? So you were wrong on that one, but you keep coming back with doom and gloom.

Crypto is actually moving forth on Isle of Man James. I told you that I could help you get setup with YOUR ventures on Isle of Man, and again I stand by my statement that it would be the best option *if* you wanted to actually create something out of these infinite assets you keep issuing. Personally I don't even mind taxes. Philosophically I agree with taxes *on some things*. I am not an anarchist like you.

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It is curious that both you and emule are back at the same time. I just put two and two together

James

This is so beneath me that I wont even... Instead I'll just remind myself that when CIYAM was pushing you out of NXT and we had that long talk where you revealed your past, you gave me quite intimate details of your past and how your mind "works" and believe that this is just your mind caving in, rather than you actually being a bad person.
CIYAM tried a power grab to become the co-lead dev and with jean-luc always coding, he would have been the guy effectively in charge of NXT development. His priorities were to fire both me and CfB. I fought against that as I felt it would not be good for NXT.

It does seem like you are making some veiled threats of blackmailing me with some Oprah stuff. You going to PM me to threaten to post the private conversations next? I stand behind what I have created and started. The SuperNET is doing just fine and all the assets are nearing activation. In any case the source code, even the working repo is all public so people can see what I have been doing.

Just like I felt CIYAM was not good for NXT if he became some sort of centralized manager for devs, I dont feel that having you getting access to the public funds will be good for NXT. This is my opinion, am I not allowed to have them?

So I am not a transparent actor? When my development repo is actively posted. Over 2700 commits last 8 months, around 40,000 lines of code. Then there are all the people I am working with and helping them with assets. You personify all the assets to being just me. There are dozens and dozens of people actively contributing.

You want to talk about transparency? Then why dont you tell us all the projects you are working on?

James

P.S. funny you say Wesley stopped working on my projects because of me, when he actually stopped working on all NXT projects a while back. Shall I name the project for you?
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« Reply #95 on: December 18, 2014, 10:26:34 pm »

Anyways, this is getting OT. As seen so many times before.

Maybe you could be external advisor for CFC, since you can't run. What *shit* is needed to be done, in your opinion? It might help discussing that. And I'm not trolling here, I mean it. What do you suggest?

EDIT: fixed typo


I have already stated it 100 times. I am proposing to compensate those who really do great work for Nxt (like yourself) and create initiative to make a change. Damelon, Evil Dave and their group has done a lot of great things, so has members of the Nxt Organization, so what I am saying: give these people the funds to do something with.

Nxt needs exposure OUTSIDE of Nxt. Regardless of how much crack James smokes, the truth is in the statistics, go to the Facebook page, twitter page, subreddit, forum registrations, visitors on websites. Nxt is not growing. There is transactions on the blockchain between Nxters, but that's not how you GROW. We need Nxt to reach people outside, the 3-500 or so active Nxters enjoying the technology is really good and all, but it's not changing the world.

Look at the volume and price of Nxt, it's down over 80%. This is not me fudding, I have a huge incentive for Nxt to win this race and I thoroughly believe in the technology. But Nxt NEEDS to get "out there" and I honestly believe our best shot is to incentivize the active people, which will then make a change, which will inspire others, like we've seen before
volume of NXT is actually a bit more than volume of BTC in terms of percentage of marketcap. Is this really an urgent problem? To me it seems like NXT has a lot of long term holders and not so many day traders. Maybe that is no so bad.

As far as price, maybe nobody told you about the bear market crypto is in? BTC is down 75% from ATH. smoothing out the peaks and valleys, NXT is down around 50%, but a significant part of that is due to the mining assets cashflow imbalance.

Now I am not one to argue against getting NXT out there. That is nice to say, but harder to do. What is your plan for the millions of NXT that will get NXT out there? I came up with SuperNET and NXTinside plans to use NXT as a platform and a few assets. Curious to hear some specific plans of yours on how the money should be spent, other than just hand out money to people and hope for some magical trickle down effect.

James
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #96 on: December 18, 2014, 10:39:06 pm »


CIYAM tried a power grab to become the co-lead dev and with jean-luc always coding, he would have been the guy effectively in charge of NXT development. His priorities were to fire both me and CfB. I fought against that as I felt it would not be good for NXT.


And did I not support you and also revealed CIYAMs final intention ? Yes I did. I got to know CIYAM better than anyone in Nxt and there is a lot to be said about that guy and the shit he pulled, but him wanting actual structure was not one of his sins.

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It does seem like you are making some veiled threats of blackmailing me with some Oprah stuff. You going to PM me to threaten to post the private conversations next? I stand behind what I have created and started. The SuperNET is doing just fine and all the assets are nearing activation. In any case the source code, even the working repo is all public so people can see what I have been doing.

Blackmailing you James.. Are you serious? I am simply responding to someone making false and downright retarded accusations against me. I would never ever reveal any of our private conversations or PMs or whateverthefuck you got yourself thinking.

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Just like I felt CIYAM was not good for NXT if he became some sort of centralized manager for devs, I dont feel that having you getting access to the public funds will be good for NXT. This is my opinion, am I not allowed to have them?

See this is the core of the entire reason I can't fucking stand you anymore. When did I try to get a hold of all the funds? I have thoroughly informed you and everyone else that I would not be getting ANY of these funds. I am fighting to get people to be compensated, as I always have been. I have paid people more from my personal stash than most dating back to December 2013. That is my sole proposal: Give the people who do the actual work, the funds to be able to continue doing it before they lose interest like so many others have done. I am so fucking done with your false representations.

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So I am not a transparent actor? When my development repo is actively posted. Over 2700 commits last 8 months, around 40,000 lines of code. Then there are all the people I am working with and helping them with assets. You personify all the assets to being just me. There are dozens and dozens of people actively contributing.

So James, what is your full real name, age, location and what are your future plans for registering these businesses? THAT is the transparency crypto needs. People have had it with shadow exchanges and projects that suddenly just disappear into thin air. MtGox, BlackSheepMarket etc. did more damage to crypto than regulations ever did.

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You want to talk about transparency? Then why dont you tell us all the projects you are working on?

Uhm, since when has this been a secret? I am fulltime working on Jinn and the leftover time I spend on social ventures as well as aiding NxtHaus (which will come with a happy christmas update to Nxters soon).

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P.S. funny you say Wesley stopped working on my projects because of me, when he actually stopped working on all NXT projects a while back. Shall I name the project for you?

I am repeating what Wesley said himself, in the Skype chats (public ones) when shit started hitting the fan with the rumors of the SEC. This is a major concern for a lot of people, because you do everything outside of the laws and regulations. Are you honestly going to try to tell me that you think you can create this trillion dollar empire that will be exempt from all forms of regulation without anyone taking serious damage in the form of both financial and prison time? Seriously?

I warned you of Bluemeanie before that shit hit the fan, I warned Nxt of CIYAM before and I warned people of Lee before his scam-asset vaporized. I again warn you, don't overestimate yourself and underestimate the real world. I think you could be doing really good shit in the long term if you had just spent a tiny amount of time considering how you could change the actual real world, rather than just this shadow-world of yours.

But that's seriously it, I'm done talking with you. *Going offline*

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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #97 on: December 18, 2014, 10:57:20 pm »

I will concentrate on the NxtOrganization, as I think people can't put in a significant amount of time and work into several businesses/groups/ventures.

Therefore I mostly stay out of this discussion, as people mostly want to benefit themselves.

As far as I remembered, the members are getting paid. How much? How often? Hourly based or project based? Also, there still need to be a vote held on the self nominated members here. Else it would be just a minority (by 1 person, the self nominated user) decision.


For me the best option is the splitting of 25% for NxtOrg, 25% NxtFoundation and 50% for developers held by pouncer and neer.g. New group formations always take a long time until they really take of. The two already established groups (NxtOrg&NxtFound) are here already and working. Why take the risk of another group, which might not work at all?

This is my opinion and not the opinion of the NxtOrg. :)
I will work without any pay for this.

I am against pre-allocating any funds to any private groups. the committee should evaluate any and all external and internal proposals and decide on a case by case basis.

James

Why do you keep using this misleading terminology and referring to NxtFoundation and NxtOrganization as "private groups" as if this committee structure is different? NxtOrg has opened it's doors to anyone on this forum numerous times, we are IDENTICALLY open as this committee structure. Unless someone sends a message to every adress on the blockchain and use Voting System to decide, it would be impossible to draw a distinction between what is happening in this committee vs the organization vs the foundation.


And while I share your concern for the long term development of the platform Nxt, more importantly is actually the fact that very few people use Nxt. Nxt has a lot of great technology, which is why projects like yours and mine use it, but unless we manage to capture new people from OUTSIDE Nxt, it wont matter. Ignore the crash and burnt value and volume of Nxt, Just check the forum stats, check the blockchain stats, check google analytics stats. The conclusion is not even up for discussion: Nxt is dying. There is a reason this committee project, like Damelon put it, ended up a total failure: no one cares anymore. Just a few months back when we started Nxt Organization there was a ton of people engaged in the debate and people signing up, this does not happen anymore.


Having the best technology does not mean jack shit, adoption is everything. There are numerous examples of sub-par technology having monopolies simply due to adoption vs superior technologies not having any users. Nxt became yet another such example. I've been saying this since day 1 and nothing has changed. Nxt is infected with this idiotic mindstate and doesn't change and consequently doesn't grow. Developers, marketers, users, everyone is abandoning Nxt at a steady rate. Unless something radically changes in the next 3 months I predict Nxt is dead by May
hello emule

you became a troll too James?
yup! I am your personal troll. I dont like you. I dont like how you behave. you use your sockpuppets, it is dishonest, yet you claim to be the great positive force for NXT, when all you do it hurt it.

many people left NXT specifically because of you and your abrasive manner. Since you sound halfway credible and you are spouting nonsense,  I need to discredit you so that people wont start worrying needlessly.

Remember when you were pushing real hard for Isle of Mann crytpo paradise? And I said, that is the wrong path and there is no assurance that one day the bigger fiat govts wouldnt squeeze the IoM to cave into their desires. Within a few months, what happened? where is the Isle of Mann crypto paradise? So you were wrong on that one, but you keep coming back with doom and gloom.

It is curious that both you and emule are back at the same time. I just put two and two together

James

I always said that it was a parasite

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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #98 on: December 18, 2014, 11:09:45 pm »

James, Uniqueorn,

I understand you too deeply disagree on many things, but it probably would help this thread if you didn't fill it up with personal attacks that have little to do with CFC.

Thanks ;)
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« Reply #99 on: December 18, 2014, 11:15:28 pm »

James, Uniqueorn,

I understand you too deeply disagree on many things, but it probably would help this thread if you didn't fill it up with personal attacks that have little to do with CFC.

Thanks ;)
sorry, I feel much better now, refilled my crack pipe
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