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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #120 on: December 19, 2014, 03:36:38 pm »

Alright, my apologies on the "retarded shit". All personal attacks aside, its counterproductive.

so to clarify, you believe that the funds should be split between existing committees.

others believe there should be another committee to handle this.

this is the current argument, and this argument is a valid and productive one.

I believe that there should be another committee, because the current ones weren't formed to have these funds, but I may be wrong.
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #121 on: December 19, 2014, 03:44:17 pm »

On topic, the CMC. ;D  And the old ones. How to serve Nxt AND the Nxt community best.

Open up the discussions goddammit. Get back to the open forum, please.

What drives ppl to Slack is the ability to take part in the action. What BCNext did was make proposals and discuss them. Make an announcement, ask for  :-\feedback. Listen. Reply. Make it happen.

When BCNext gave Nxt to the community and left for good, ppl were pissed and confused. But the spirit was held alive by being in the same thread, close to the devs, the marketing oriented, the investor, etc. Brainstorming use cases and tech solutions openly in the Monster Thread built this community IMO, and grew the solutions. CfB threw in a game or a dilemma when he was bored, or he thought we were. Suddenly lots of ppl got tipped. Ha! It was the place to be.

Or here, when "we" developed the Nxt corporate design: Offering influence and progress to the community, listening, changing and showing progress kept it relevant.

SN Slack: James makes an announcement. It gets discussed. Someone makes a proposal. It expands. James joins the discussion, supports it or leaves it with a good (or bad) advise to take or leave. Ok, this was a fun day. Get funded, or be part of a good discussion, be appreciated or get wiser.

Greater ideas come from this. It's not that all code must be written in front of everybody of course, or every line in a letter must be discussed, some things clearly need expert knowledge and backstage work. But be a regular, show progress and discuss it, not for a month but a day, it encourages ppl to take part.

I hope whoever ends up in CFC won't just present "finished ideas" or "well thought out products" that needs to be made, or only brainstorm behind the scenes, as this just won't make most out of our decentralized beast. Then it doesn't matter who's in the committee, it's their personal background and goal that leads us. Voted in or not.

It's easy to fall into that backstage trap. I've just done it myself. Will some moderator please assign me a NXTER.ORG subforum, please!!! :)

I like the idea of "doing this for Nxt" but I guess the problem is that the most hardcore Nxt veterans either got worn out or established. They're a part of the starfish already and do what they do best, to Nxt's benefit. And if you don't have a big stake, it isn't attractive. So thumbs up for everyone who nominated themselves so far! I don't see why Nxt Org members won't run for election.

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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #122 on: December 19, 2014, 04:21:23 pm »

I don't see why Nxt Org members won't run for election.

Oh sorry, it seems like you get it wrong. As I (hopefully understandable) stated I (Berzerk) won't elect. As the "head" or CEO of the NxtOrganization I simply don't have more time to put into Nxt at this point. I can't make enough time free for two groups, as one is already a hard and time intensive job. :)

BUT Rudeboi for example is a NxtOrg member. Dom P was if I remember correctly a NxtOrg member, before I took over.

I thought a little bit more about this whole thing. What do you guys think about a vote token for the NxtOrganization. The problem I see right now is that there are 5 voting tokens. (Chair, Comm, Comm, Tech, Tech). Three of them are out of the NxtFoundation, so the NxtFoundation will be able to always get the upper hand.

I not accuse them, that they would do it. But it is a concern for me. (If these users will get in into the CFC at the end. :) )
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #123 on: December 19, 2014, 04:39:54 pm »


Oh sorry, it seems like you get it wrong. As I (hopefully understandable) stated I (Berzerk) won't elect. As the "head" or CEO of the NxtOrganization I simply don't have more time to put into Nxt at this point. I can't make enough time free for two groups, as one is already a hard and time intensive job. :)

BUT Rudeboi for example is a NxtOrg member. Dom P was if I remember correctly a NxtOrg member, before I took over.

I thought a little bit more about this whole thing. What do you guys think about a vote token for the NxtOrganization. The problem I see right now is that there are 5 voting tokens. (Chair, Comm, Comm, Tech, Tech). Three of them are out of the NxtFoundation, so the NxtFoundation will be able to always get the upper hand.

I not accuse them, that they would do it. But it is a concern for me. (If these users will get in into the CFC at the end. :) )

There hasn't been any voting for CFC members yet. Seems to be 9 people going for the 5 voting positions at the moment. If members of the forum trust Nxt Foundation members by voting them in, then so be it.
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #124 on: December 19, 2014, 07:27:52 pm »

Glad we are back on topic.

I doubt I would have enough time to be an active voting member on the CFC, as I already sit on the Nxt Org. Hence why I nominated myself for treasurer as would have enough time for that.

As long as the end result means proposals don't get ignored anymore then I'm all for whatever the outcome is.

For me our focus should be easy accessibility and raising awareness for Q1 2015.
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #125 on: December 19, 2014, 09:51:29 pm »

What has happened to this community?

This proposal was simple - it has been debated in 2 threads already and people voted to simplify the committees and put the NXT under 1 committee and put it to work. In theory the committees could just vote to reorganise themselves and consolidate the funds anyway but this seemed a better route - now I'm beginning to wonder.

Now I come into the forum to read a thread thats supposed to be about nominations to be full of personal attacks, competition between different groups in NXT getting an 'upper hand'..

This is missing the point - this doesn't get us any closer to putting this to money to work.

What the committee does will be public so any bias in its operation will be visible, and if there is truly someone in the community who is going to put NXT back up in the top 5 then they can obtain funding from a committee with the funds and the generic remit to support them.

So please can we get back on topic of putting together a committee and dissolving the 3 that we have - the sooner we do this the better.
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #126 on: December 19, 2014, 11:39:54 pm »

James, Uniqueorn,

I understand you too deeply disagree on many things, but it probably would help this thread if you didn't fill it up with personal attacks that have little to do with CFC.

Thanks ;)
sorry, I feel much better now, refilled my crack pipe

yeah do that and be happy,

at the end your the one who destroyed nxt single handed, with all your fantasy side project that leads nowhere
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #127 on: December 20, 2014, 03:45:21 am »

James, Uniqueorn,

I understand you too deeply disagree on many things, but it probably would help this thread if you didn't fill it up with personal attacks that have little to do with CFC.

Thanks ;)
sorry, I feel much better now, refilled my crack pipe

yeah do that and be happy,

at the end your the one who destroyed nxt single handed, with all your fantasy side project that leads nowhere

Da fuq!?
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #128 on: December 20, 2014, 05:20:59 am »

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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #129 on: December 20, 2014, 09:28:17 am »


Those who can't do, talk.


James is a frontiersman who dares tread where others do not, for fear of danger and repurcussion. This is the exploration and discovery of our freedoms just as much as in the undiscovered world. Trolls like emule are the worst of the people in our society as those who fear mongered of ventures into the unknown in the pages of history. And just the same, the frontiersmen will be revered with glory and respect as revolutionaries, and the heckling non-doers will be scoffed at as archaic relics completely useless bastards.

Tldr: history has a way of dealing with the emules of the world.

+10 to BBC, and here is the current nomination situation:

Signups:
1. Jones (TECH)
2. FumanChu (COMM)
3. jl777 (TECH) *disputed
4. CFA Consulting (COMM)
4bis. DomP (TRES)
5. RudeBoi (TRES) *other thread
6. L8orre (ANYWHERE) *possibly busy
7. EvilDave (CHAIR) *willing
8. Damelon (CHAIR/COMM)
9. ChuckOne (TECH)
10. Pouncer (TRES)

*9. Cassius (SECRETARY) *suggested by EvilDave
*10. neer.g (TRES) *suggested by EvilDave

Anyone else want in ? Particularly for the chair/spokesperson slot..... :o

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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #130 on: December 20, 2014, 11:21:10 am »

Looks good to me :)
But what do I know...
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #131 on: December 20, 2014, 09:53:01 pm »

I don't see why Nxt Org members won't run for election.

Oh sorry, it seems like you get it wrong. As I (hopefully understandable) stated I (Berzerk) won't elect. As the "head" or CEO of the NxtOrganization I simply don't have more time to put into Nxt at this point. I can't make enough time free for two groups, as one is already a hard and time intensive job. :)

BUT Rudeboi for example is a NxtOrg member. Dom P was if I remember correctly a NxtOrg member, before I took over.

I thought a little bit more about this whole thing. What do you guys think about a vote token for the NxtOrganization. The problem I see right now is that there are 5 voting tokens. (Chair, Comm, Comm, Tech, Tech). Three of them are out of the NxtFoundation, so the NxtFoundation will be able to always get the upper hand.

I not accuse them, that they would do it. But it is a concern for me. (If these users will get in into the CFC at the end. :) )

Then I suggest you discuss this within NxtOrg to nominate NxtOrg itself, just like I did with CFA Consulting.
So it wouldn't be you alone but the whole group, and you'd be sharing the amount of work between several people.

That's why I applied for treasurer (It doesn't take much time to manage that, only to be trusted), and, since I wanted to help further but couldn't commit to the amount of work, I discussed this with my partners at CFA, and we decided we could do a group effort.
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #132 on: December 21, 2014, 11:33:45 am »


Those who can't do, talk.


James is a frontiersman who dares tread where others do not, for fear of danger and repurcussion. This is the exploration and discovery of our freedoms just as much as in the undiscovered world. Trolls like emule are the worst of the people in our society as those who fear mongered of ventures into the unknown in the pages of history. And just the same, the frontiersmen will be revered with glory and respect as revolutionaries, and the heckling non-doers will be scoffed at as archaic relics completely useless bastards.

Tldr: history has a way of dealing with the emules of the world.

+10 to BBC, and here is the current nomination situation:

Signups:
1. Jones (TECH)
2. FumanChu (COMM)
3. jl777 (TECH) *disputed
4. CFA Consulting (COMM)
4bis. DomP (TRES)
5. RudeBoi (TRES) *other thread
6. L8orre (ANYWHERE) *possibly busy
7. EvilDave (CHAIR) *willing
8. Damelon (CHAIR/COMM)
9. ChuckOne (TECH)
10. Pouncer (TRES)

*9. Cassius (SECRETARY) *suggested by EvilDave
*10. neer.g (TRES) *suggested by EvilDave

Anyone else want in ? Particularly for the chair/spokesperson slot..... :o

Looks good to me. That should be enough to form a sensible committee although I still think 8 positions are too much. I would prefer a more leaner structure: 1 Chair, 1 Tech, 1 Comm, 1 Tres. But maybe that is just me and my experience with the existing committees. There were at almost always the same 3 people really active and the other 2 dormant.
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #133 on: December 21, 2014, 04:31:40 pm »

Looks good to me. That should be enough to form a sensible committee although I still think 8 positions are too much. I would prefer a more leaner structure: 1 Chair, 1 Tech, 1 Comm, 1 Tres. But maybe that is just me and my experience with the existing committees. There were at almost always the same 3 people really active and the other 2 dormant.
Actually, that leaves the possibility to be sick, more busy than usual, on vacation, unskilled for a specific subject, etc.
But I understand your concern.
Maybe a possibility to address both needs would be to have, for each position (apart from treasurer), a main member, and a substitute ?
 
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #134 on: December 21, 2014, 04:39:39 pm »

Looks good to me. That should be enough to form a sensible committee although I still think 8 positions are too much. I would prefer a more leaner structure: 1 Chair, 1 Tech, 1 Comm, 1 Tres. But maybe that is just me and my experience with the existing committees. There were at almost always the same 3 people really active and the other 2 dormant.
Actually, that leaves the possibility to be sick, more busy than usual, on vacation, unskilled for a specific subject, etc.
But I understand your concern.
Maybe a possibility to address both needs would be to have, for each position (apart from treasurer), a main member, and a substitute ?

Looks good to me. Let us see how Damelon will incorporate that suggestion in the final voting post.

I remember we need yet another voting round to determine who really is in.
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #135 on: December 23, 2014, 01:50:20 pm »

Thought I'd bump this thread :)
I'm happy to be involved in principle, though remain a little concerned about balancing various NXT-related commitments (and life-in-general commitments). But this is the kind of thing that the better it's done, the less time it should take. A few other points, possibly mutually contradictory but I'll let someone else worry about that:

1) I don't see a problem with conflicts of interest. Everyone has a conflict of interest. This is a group of people who are highly motivated and involved in NXT. If they didn't have fingers in other pies I'd be concerned. Their respective pies will also give them unique insights into the needs and quirks of the NXT ecosystem. This is not like politicians having part-time work in the private sector. It's a strength.

2) Obviously if 7/8 committee members were involved in SuperNET, for example, that would be an issue. That's the point of it being a committee, to gain a range of perspectives and accountability without centralising around any one of them. So long as the committee has the right breadth of members (or members who are self-aware and honest enough to recognise their potential biases) it will be fine.

3) I favour the idea of a lean, fast-moving committee - perhaps with members and seconds, so if one person cannot be reached within, say, 24 hours, their second can take the vote.

4) I'm going to be unplugging for a few days down in the Westcountry, starting tomorrow. Happy Christmas, everyone. Lots of hard work has been done by lots of very capable people, and it's great to be a part of it all.

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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #136 on: December 24, 2014, 01:57:35 pm »

2015 should be an exciting year for everyone here.

In the meantime, Happy Holidays. Kiss your loved ones, be thankful for all the opportunity we've been afforded, and let's rally for massive progress in the coming months and weeks.
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #137 on: January 08, 2015, 01:44:25 am »

Kick.......
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #138 on: January 08, 2015, 05:29:06 am »

Kick.......
*walks away, whistling innocently*

haha, yeah the holidays have ended and brought with it a freshly fueled bunch of nxters with ms right around the corner.

as I remember we left off with a sizeable amount of nominees for this committee and some mostly constructive argument about whether it is the best idea.

jones' plan: refer people over here for like two more days just in case anyone wants a last second nomination, then continue on with the vote,but the vote raises a point.

1. Do we just make a nxtforum poll (I've heard it stated that these aren't conclusive to the whole nxt community)
2. Wait like a month for VS on the blockchain
3. Something else

MS could greatly benefit with some CFC delegating project to come on the scene, hope it can get together.
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Re: New Community Funds Committee (CFC) members Self-Nomination Thread
« Reply #139 on: January 08, 2015, 08:18:17 am »


Kick.......
*walks away, whistling innocently*

haha, yeah the holidays have ended and brought with it a freshly fueled bunch of nxters with ms right around the corner.

as I remember we left off with a sizeable amount of nominees for this committee and some mostly constructive argument about whether it is the best idea.

jones' plan: refer people over here for like two more days just in case anyone wants a last second nomination, then continue on with the vote,but the vote raises a point.

1. Do we just make a nxtforum poll (I've heard it stated that these aren't conclusive to the whole nxt community)
2. Wait like a month for VS on the blockchain
3. Something else

MS could greatly benefit with some CFC delegating project to come on the scene, hope it can get together.

Nice kick EvilDave.

Do a Nxt forum poll, we need these funds to become live.

Voting can always be used to change members going forward. I suggest it is initially put forward as an interim period fir example 3 months. Then re vote
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