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landomata

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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2014, 06:02:10 am »
Quote from: jl777 on September 18, 2014, 05:34:42 am
these bitcoin fund raising startups are getting lots of VC money and press but few are actually doing much as far as actual fund raising for crypto projects goes.

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These guys are dead in the water, AE has only been running for 4 months and look at the impact already. 

Each Asset that succeeds is a shield in the Nxt armory.

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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2014, 06:19:23 am »
Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on September 18, 2014, 05:54:17 am
Quote from: Dunster on September 18, 2014, 02:51:55 am
What can be done to stop him from calling NXT a scam and financially damaging so many people with his misleading and libelous statements?

Why do u need him to stop calling Nxt a scam? And why do u think that people r financially damaged coz of this?

This is exactly what I was thinking when reading the post  ;D
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2014, 06:22:12 am »
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2014, 06:23:44 am »
I like the idea of how we should keep our cool when replying and use the moment to the advantage of NXT--free advert for NXT!

This is how we should deal with FUDsters; they're just scared of the unknown, that's all. :)
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2014, 06:29:02 am »
Quote from: msin on September 18, 2014, 05:16:50 am
Jeff is making himself sound like an idiot and giving Nxt free advertising at the same time.  Could you imagine if one of our core devs spent their free time spreading FUD on other alts, I would be seriously concerned if they did.  Jeff is afraid of Nxt.  Anyone who tries to "save others" from what they perceive as scam coin is just jealous.

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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2014, 06:32:49 am »
Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on September 18, 2014, 05:54:17 am
Why do u need him to stop calling Nxt a scam? And why do u think that people r financially damaged coz of this?

I personally don't need him to stop calling Nxt a scam, I just wondered what others thought could be done to read some interesting responses. I don't know if people are or will be financially damaged, but he does seem to be going out of his way to damage Nxt. If you read his recent Bitcointalk posts he says something like PoS needs to be "mitigated" and the Nxt blockchain should be reset.

How do you blackbox test a Bitcointard?  ;D
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2014, 06:36:23 am »
Quote from: Dunster on September 18, 2014, 06:32:49 am
he does seem to be going out of his way to damage Nxt. If you read his recent Bitcointalk posts he says something like PoS needs to be "mitigated" and the Nxt blockchain should be reset.

I'd also like to know how he comes to the conclusion that early investors are "central bankers".
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An economic system is a manifestation of an ideology.  What was lost, we shall reclaim.
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2014, 06:38:11 am »
Quote from: prometheus on September 18, 2014, 03:08:18 am
present facts without being demeaning...that's all that can be done

this.  and take whatever critiscms and improve Nxt.  keep him talking.  i wonder what else he has to say.
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2014, 06:40:53 am »
Quote from: Dunster on September 18, 2014, 06:32:49 am
I personally don't need him to stop calling Nxt a scam...

More he talks - more publicity Nxt gets and worse Bitcoin looks. Our swarm team should keep him talking about Nxt constantly.
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2014, 06:41:19 am »
Will Bitcoin be 'hacked' by September 2015?

This guy says it will be:

Nicolas T. Courtois is a cryptologist. He has obtained a PhD from Paris University. Then for 7 years he worked as a cryptography engineer at the French smart card champion Gemalto. He is a highly influential cryptologist with more than 60 regular publications and more than 3700 citations. He is responsible for the cryptanalysis of many real-life ciphers used by hundreds of millions of people every day, such as the Bluetooth cipher E0, the automobile cipher KeeLoq and the MiFare Classic Crypto-1 system which is used in public transportation and building access control. He has 8 patents on industrial applications of cryptography. He has co-authored several research papers on bitcoin.
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2014, 06:46:37 am »
Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on September 18, 2014, 06:40:53 am
Quote from: Dunster on September 18, 2014, 06:32:49 am
I personally don't need him to stop calling Nxt a scam...

More he talks - more publicity Nxt gets and worse Bitcoin looks. Our swarm team should keep him talking about Nxt constantly.

i think a good response could be : 

why start talking now?  is it because of this? 



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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2014, 06:47:54 am »
Quote from: devphp on September 18, 2014, 06:41:19 am
Will Bitcoin be 'hacked' by September 2015?

This guy says it will be:

Nicolas T. Courtois is a cryptologist. He has obtained a PhD from Paris University. Then for 7 years he worked as a cryptography engineer at the French smart card champion Gemalto. He is a highly influential cryptologist with more than 60 regular publications and more than 3700 citations. He is responsible for the cryptanalysis of many real-life ciphers used by hundreds of millions of people every day, such as the Bluetooth cipher E0, the automobile cipher KeeLoq and the MiFare Classic Crypto-1 system which is used in public transportation and building access control. He has 8 patents on industrial applications of cryptography. He has co-authored several research papers on bitcoin.

What about curve25519 of NXT?
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2014, 06:53:14 am »
Quote from: devphp on September 18, 2014, 06:41:19 am
Will Bitcoin be 'hacked' by September 2015?

This guy says it will be:

Nicolas T. Courtois is a cryptologist. He has obtained a PhD from Paris University. Then for 7 years he worked as a cryptography engineer at the French smart card champion Gemalto. He is a highly influential cryptologist with more than 60 regular publications and more than 3700 citations. He is responsible for the cryptanalysis of many real-life ciphers used by hundreds of millions of people every day, such as the Bluetooth cipher E0, the automobile cipher KeeLoq and the MiFare Classic Crypto-1 system which is used in public transportation and building access control. He has 8 patents on industrial applications of cryptography. He has co-authored several research papers on bitcoin.

https://www.betmoose.com/bet/bitcoin-cryptography-broken-in-2015-791

Bets should be made in USD NXT - Yes with BTC doesn't make sense, and therefore betting No doesn't make sense
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2014, 06:54:22 am »
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2014, 06:56:36 am »
Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on September 18, 2014, 06:54:22 am
Quote from: Jacinto on September 18, 2014, 06:47:54 am
What about curve25519 of NXT?

It may be broken too, why not. Good news is that we will have #5 from https://nxtforum.org/technical-development-applications/ann-bounty-for-development-of-account-control-features/msg85841/#msg85841

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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2014, 07:01:19 am »
Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on September 18, 2014, 06:40:53 am
Quote from: Dunster on September 18, 2014, 06:32:49 am
I personally don't need him to stop calling Nxt a scam...

More he talks - more publicity Nxt gets and worse Bitcoin looks. Our swarm team should keep him talking about Nxt constantly.

I like the way you think
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2014, 07:07:07 am »
Quote from: devphp on September 18, 2014, 06:41:19 am
Will Bitcoin be 'hacked' by September 2015?

This guy says it will be:

Nicolas T. Courtois is a cryptologist. He has obtained a PhD from Paris University. Then for 7 years he worked as a cryptography engineer at the French smart card champion Gemalto. He is a highly influential cryptologist with more than 60 regular publications and more than 3700 citations. He is responsible for the cryptanalysis of many real-life ciphers used by hundreds of millions of people every day, such as the Bluetooth cipher E0, the automobile cipher KeeLoq and the MiFare Classic Crypto-1 system which is used in public transportation and building access control. He has 8 patents on industrial applications of cryptography. He has co-authored several research papers on bitcoin.

This is fud against bitcoin.  Bitcoin uses SHA-2 hash function with a 256 bit digest size.  There is no attack that comes close to compromising all 64 rounds of SHA2-256.  I believe bitcoin uses 128 rounds which strengthens it.
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An economic system is a manifestation of an ideology.  What was lost, we shall reclaim.
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2014, 07:13:08 am »
Quote from: 2Kool4Skewl on September 18, 2014, 07:07:07 am
This is fud against bitcoin.  Bitcoin uses SHA-2 hash function with a 256 bit digest size.  There is no attack that comes close to compromising all 64 rounds of SHA2-256.  I believe bitcoin uses 128 rounds which strengthens it.

SHA-2 is irrelevant. He explicitly mentioned EC-cryptography.
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2014, 07:17:44 am »
Quote from: lucky331 on September 18, 2014, 06:46:37 am
Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on September 18, 2014, 06:40:53 am
Quote from: Dunster on September 18, 2014, 06:32:49 am
I personally don't need him to stop calling Nxt a scam...

More he talks - more publicity Nxt gets and worse Bitcoin looks. Our swarm team should keep him talking about Nxt constantly.

i think a good response could be : 

why start talking now?  is it because of this? 


That, and perhaps this marked the beginning of a campaign for his own PoS coin, heh! Eventhough he said PoS should be mitigated.  :p
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2014, 08:26:59 am »
Quote from: Come-from-Beyond on September 18, 2014, 06:40:53 am
Quote from: Dunster on September 18, 2014, 06:32:49 am
I personally don't need him to stop calling Nxt a scam...

More he talks - more publicity Nxt gets and worse Bitcoin looks. Our swarm team should keep him talking about Nxt constantly.
Agree,we should talked with his concers about Nxt.
Share him and other cryptoers with more Nxt knowledge.
Power of NXT AE is rising,even let Bitcoiners envy. ;D
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