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Dunster

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I warned about the Bitcointards
« on: September 18, 2014, 02:51:55 am »

The Bitcointards are waging war against NXT now. I warned of this some time ago but I was pushed aside as a crazy person. Bitcointards are clearly not our friends. Jeff Garzik is leading the negative campaign against us calling NXT a "Scamcoin".

http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitcoin-core-developer-jeff-garzik-believes-nxt-is-a-scamcoin/
http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/2gnsme/bitcoin_core_developer_jeff_garzik_believes_nxt/ckl0j0i

I'm not sure how Garzik should be dealt but his slanderous statements are extremely damaging and possibly libel.

What can be done to stop him from calling NXT a scam and financially damaging so many people with his misleading and libelous statements?
« Last Edit: September 18, 2014, 02:55:46 am by Dunster »
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2014, 03:08:18 am »

present facts without being demeaning...that's all that can be done
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2014, 03:15:53 am »

present facts without being demeaning...that's all that can be done

I'm sure that wouldn't do anything to stop him. He wants NXT killed as a competitor to Bitcoin.
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2014, 03:19:15 am »

Why are they ramping up now? are they scared of SuperNET?
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2014, 03:24:03 am »

someone wanting all the sweets in the jar , could backfire and they end up with nothing but a finger attached to a mouse trap
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2014, 03:29:10 am »

Why are they ramping up now? are they scared of SuperNET?

I think most of the top Bitcointards have closed their minds to other experiments in crytocurrencies. They believe Bitcoin is the anointed coin destined for greatness and the world reserve currency of the future. It probably doesn't help that they are losing thousands upon thousands per day in USD wealth as Bitcoin goes down in price. He must be taking out his frustration on the coin that started all the new ideas of an actual crypto-economic platform which if course is NXT.

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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2014, 03:58:45 am »

my point of view is these attacks are good news for nxt. if you ask me i smell fear in those FUDs fear to lost ground and be dethroned.
superNET mgw and AE gain track every day today i was reading in some bitcoin blog a explanation about what ICO mean. a term minted at AE. im bet most bitcoin devs know btc probably got relegated in 4 or 5 years by nxt but most of them are moderated enough to accept it and continue.
sadly this guy is making a show of him. the good part is he cant truly point the scam putting himself as stupid one and of course giving nxt more publicity.
we not need attack bitcoiners. i was one of them like 2 months ago and now i jumped 100% to nxt. of course they fear lost their icomes. i feared the same until i start playing with AE. we just need show them the benefits of nxt.
someone must create a btc wallet with superNET compatibility im bet we watch bitcoiner running in masses to nxt after few months of toy and trade with it.
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2014, 04:02:23 am »

my point of view is these attacks are good news for nxt. if you ask me i smell fear in those FUDs fear to lost ground and be dethroned.
superNET mgw and AE gain track every day today i was reading in some bitcoin blog a explanation about what ICO mean. a term minted at AE. im bet most bitcoin devs know btc probably got relegated in 4 or 5 years by nxt but most of them are moderated enough to accept it and continue.
sadly this guy is making a show of him. the good part is he cant truly point the scam putting himself as stupid one and of course giving nxt more publicity.
we not need attack bitcoiners. i was one of them like 2 months ago and now i jumped 100% to nxt. of course they fear lost their icomes. i feared the same until i start playing with AE. we just need show them the benefits of nxt.
someone must create a btc wallet with superNET compatibility im bet we watch bitcoiner running in masses to nxt after few months of toy and trade with it.

Agreed.  Calling someone a bitcointard doesn't exactly put us on the high ground here.  Let's not fight FUD with schoolyard name calling.
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2014, 04:14:53 am »

Bitcointards Our peers talk a good game about banksters pushing regulation and IP law to stifle technological innovation. Ironic.

Competition in the altcoin market is driving innovation at break-neck speed. Innovation that will solve Bitcoin's flaws like blockchain bloat, anonymity, long transaction confirmation times, etc.
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2014, 04:19:15 am »

Agreed.  Calling someone a bitcointard doesn't exactly put us on the high ground here.  Let's not fight FUD with schoolyard name calling.

A Bitcointard is a very good name for someone that is blind to anything but Bitcoin, it's catchy and memorable. Perhaps we can think of a politically correct name for those broken Bitcoin minds.  ;D
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2014, 04:47:26 am »

Agreed.  Calling someone a bitcointard doesn't exactly put us on the high ground here.  Let's not fight FUD with schoolyard name calling.

A Bitcointard is a very good name for someone that is blind to anything but Bitcoin, it's catchy and memorable. Perhaps we can think of a politically correct name for those broken Bitcoin minds.  ;D
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2014, 04:49:02 am »

I agree to what most say: don't stoop to their level. Name calling and panic is unnecessary.

I have yet to see any problem. Do you really think anyone is gonna panic-sell their NXT now?  :D
Their arguments are weak. Had a longer twitter discussion with Garzik right now - and he lacks a consistent point. Whenever one argument is questioned, he just shifts to another.

Might be even worth calling him out on r/bitcoin - since I find his call for de-anonymizing miners and developers questionable. And calling NXT a scam reeks of fear. I think it's great promo.
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2014, 05:02:22 am »

It's free advertising. Jeff has thousands of subscribers. This is brought up at reddit/r/bitcoin - there are even more bitcoiners there. Not all of them are retarded or stubborn, many will separate the wheat from the chaff and jump to NXT. Bitcoin price going down, not supported by williebot and China now, also helps them see other alternatives.
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2014, 05:16:50 am »

Jeff is making himself sound like an idiot and giving Nxt free advertising at the same time.  Could you imagine if one of our core devs spent their free time spreading FUD on other alts, I would be seriously concerned if they did.  Jeff is afraid of Nxt.  Anyone who tries to "save others" from what they perceive as scam coin is just jealous.
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2014, 05:19:11 am »

Agree with ThomasVeil, devphp and msin

Currently some of those "legends" make themselves look like antiquated self-aggrandizing fat knights. Unable to fight peasants: attacking and turning around the same minute after being countered.

It's unworthy - I would leave them alone: Every reader with brain-button switched on will see the struggling and, yes, some of them will even check out NXT thanks to this discussion.

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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2014, 05:33:43 am »

Fudzilla's recent posts on Bitcointalk:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=541;sa=showPosts

He doesn't sound like a Future Nxter, so that would make him a .....   ;D
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2014, 05:34:19 am »

Yeah anyone reading these conversations can't help but look into the Nxt ecosystem and its functionality/capability.
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2014, 05:34:42 am »

Jeff is making himself sound like an idiot and giving Nxt free advertising at the same time.  Could you imagine if one of our core devs spent their free time spreading FUD on other alts, I would be seriously concerned if they did.  Jeff is afraid of Nxt.  Anyone who tries to "save others" from what they perceive as scam coin is just jealous.
reputation suicide is a sad thing to see, we should feel compassion for him. these bitcoin fund raising startups are getting lots of VC money and press but few are actually doing much as far as actual fund raising for crypto projects goes.

Reallocating capital to the most promising projects is what NXT AE is enabling and has been for some time. Without silly delays for no reason. Capitalization at the speed of tech, instead of at the speed of real world bankers.

I think SuperNET has some bitcoiners spooked, but it will actually help bitcoin adoption so I am not sure why they are so worried. Maybe they are seeing all the assets taking over the coinmarketcap and realizing that there is no way bitcoin can compete with all the assets as assets are of all types and not just clones of bitcoin.

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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2014, 05:54:17 am »

What can be done to stop him from calling NXT a scam and financially damaging so many people with his misleading and libelous statements?

Why do u need him to stop calling Nxt a scam? And why do u think that people r financially damaged coz of this?
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Re: I warned about the Bitcointards
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2014, 05:57:29 am »

Rabitter called Nxt a cult....I never been part of a cult before sounds exciting.
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