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Got NXT 64,757 stolen from my wallet - AND I GOT THEM BACK
« on: June 20, 2014, 06:30:50 pm »

Just a few hours into NXT and I had the worse surprise ever :(

No idea how, I found the client downloading the blockchain and balance 0

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Re: Got NXT 64,757 stolen from my wallet :'(
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2014, 06:33:46 pm »

Are you sure the chain is fully downloaded?  Block height is 165955.
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Re: Got NXT 64,757 stolen from my wallet :'(
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2014, 06:35:26 pm »

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Re: Got NXT 64,757 stolen from my wallet :'(
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2014, 06:36:00 pm »

Just a few hours into NXT and I had the worse surprise ever :(

No idea how, I found the client downloading the blockchain and balance 0



Yes, looks like it.

Since the money is already gone, what was your secret phrase?
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Re: Got NXT 64,757 stolen from my wallet :'(
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2014, 06:37:45 pm »

Well, I still have the aliases...

But I guess this secret phrase thing is not so safe after all?
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Re: Got NXT 64,757 stolen from my wallet :'(
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2014, 06:38:35 pm »

http://www.nxtexplorer.com/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=18415586754565610063

This account has no public key. You can mine it back. ;)
Well, this could also take forever.
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Re: Got NXT 64,757 stolen from my wallet :'(
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2014, 06:39:02 pm »

Tell us something about the passphrase. How long?
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Re: Got NXT 64,757 stolen from my wallet :'(
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2014, 06:40:58 pm »

How to mine it back? The transfer has been done to a newly created wallet...

I saw this: The recipient address translates to account 18415586754565610063, which does not have a public key, meaning it has never had an outgoing transaction. The account has a balance of 64'736 NXT. Please double check your recipient address before submitting.
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Re: Got NXT 64,757 stolen from my wallet :'(
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2014, 06:41:16 pm »

Well, I still have the aliases...

But I guess this secret phrase thing is not so safe after all?

Wow, sucks. Sorry to hear it.

Did you have a long secure phrase? If so, you have to figure out how the attacker got it. You might have malware on your computer.
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Re: Got NXT 64,757 stolen from my wallet :'(
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2014, 06:41:49 pm »

But I guess this secret phrase thing is not so safe after all?

Is it phrase that if you google with "" around it like "this is my secret" have more than 100 results?

 
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Re: Got NXT 64,757 stolen from my wallet :'(
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2014, 06:41:57 pm »

Did you create a passphrase with the client? Or did use one of your own?
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Re: Got NXT 64,757 stolen from my wallet :'(
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2014, 06:42:20 pm »

Did you create a passphrase with the client? Or did use one of your own?

Oh, yes. That is going to be interesting.
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Re: Got NXT 64,757 stolen from my wallet :'(
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2014, 06:43:29 pm »

But I guess this secret phrase thing is not so safe after all?

Is it phrase that if you google with "" around it like "this is my secret" have more than 100 results?
ANY results?
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Re: Got NXT 64,757 stolen from my wallet :'(
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2014, 06:45:13 pm »

I created the passphrase myself, from the Android client (that was compatible with the 0.8). It was a 30 characters long string, as suggested by the app... I did transfer some NXT into it, but as the app did not work I couldn't get hold of my NXT, this is why I installed that windows client... Oh my, that was quite a lot of money :(

In Google I get no results for my pass phrase...
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Re: Got NXT 64,757 stolen from my wallet :'(
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2014, 06:46:42 pm »

30 char password bruteforced? Holy crap.
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Re: Got NXT 64,757 stolen from my wallet :'(
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2014, 06:47:29 pm »

I created the passphrase myself, from the Android client (that was compatible with the 0.8). It was a 30 characters long string, as suggested by the app... I did transfer some NXT into it, but as the app did not work I couldn't get hold of my NXT, this is why I installed that windows client... Oh my, that was quite a lot of money :(

In Google I get no results for my pass phrase...
I created the passphrase myself, from the Android client (that was compatible with the 0.8). It was a 30 characters long string, as suggested by the app... I did transfer some NXT into it, but as the app did not work I couldn't get hold of my NXT, this is why I installed that windows client... Oh my, that was quite a lot of money :(

In Google I get no results for my pass phrase...

sounds like you have a keylogger trojan/virus
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Re: Got NXT 64,757 stolen from my wallet :'(
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2014, 06:48:04 pm »

I created the passphrase myself, from the Android client (that was compatible with the 0.8). It was a 30 characters long string, as suggested by the app... I did transfer some NXT into it, but as the app did not work I couldn't get hold of my NXT, this is why I installed that windows client... Oh my, that was quite a lot of money :(

In Google I get no results for my pass phrase...

30 long should be enough, even if not created with the client. But was it a random string of numbers and letters? Or a meaningful sentence?
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Re: Got NXT 64,757 stolen from my wallet :'(
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2014, 06:48:07 pm »

30 char password bruteforced? Holy crap.

I believe the android app doesn't locally sign? So the password is sent to the NRS node. Am I wrong in this? A rogue node could save the pass phrase?

Which node did you use?
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Re: Got NXT 64,757 stolen from my wallet :'(
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2014, 06:48:33 pm »

The other option is that someone keylogged that windows machine... What else?

My passphrase is a full 30chars string with no spaces and it is not 123456...
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Re: Got NXT 64,757 stolen from my wallet :'(
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2014, 06:48:39 pm »

I created the passphrase myself, from the Android client (that was compatible with the 0.8). It was a 30 characters long string, as suggested by the app... I did transfer some NXT into it, but as the app did not work I couldn't get hold of my NXT, this is why I installed that windows client... Oh my, that was quite a lot of money :(

In Google I get no results for my pass phrase...

That makes me nervous. What app?
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