Topic: Freebieservers fundraising proposal (Read 10648 times)

maddy83 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 14, 2015, 03:44:33 pm »

Thank you for your thorough response.

Please don't get me wrong, I am sure the community values your work greatly. If you can spread the word on NXT, it's awesome!

I am sorry to say, I may be dumb, but I still did not fully understand why you are not selling shares, but want donations instead? Because it's a completely different thing to invest and to donate. Buying shares implies that the investors get a share of your future profits. I would suspect this kind of approach would attract more people than donations?

Cassius · « **Reply #21 on:** January 14, 2015, 03:49:52 pm »

Quote from: maddy83 on January 14, 2015, 03:44:33 pm

Thank you for your thorough response.

Please don't get me wrong, I am sure the community values your work greatly. If you can spread the word on NXT, it's awesome!

I am sorry to say, I may be dumb, but I still did not fully understand why you are not selling shares, but want donations instead? Because it's a completely different thing to invest and to donate. Buying shares implies that the investors get a share of your future profits. I would suspect this kind of approach would attract more people than donations?

There are two aspects to what FS is doing: promoting his business, and promoting NXT. Naturally they go hand-in-hand, but there is an extra overhead associated with promoting NXT. Because of this, and because it benefits everyone in NXT, it seems fair to ask for donations - as well as specifically selling shares in the business.
I also think we should be looking to FS as an advertising partner. They are very well-placed for delivering impressions on our core demographic. Be a shame to waste the opportunity when it's staring us in the face.

xchrix · « **Reply #22 on:** January 14, 2015, 04:04:01 pm »

as far as i see FS make good promotion for NXT and 2000+ ref users is very good.
so whats the best method to help? buying shares, donations, helping code something?

Damelon · « **Reply #23 on:** January 14, 2015, 04:34:14 pm »

At this moment: seed capital, in any way.

My view is this target group is one of the most promising ones, as they can directly úse Nxt ánd spread the word.

If that needs to be done by donations, so be it, we have a history of those and it wíll benefit us all by creating a solid non-crypto userbase.

We've been talking about mainstream for ages: well, this is it. You won't convince people to adopt unless they can use it, and that kind of package is exactly what is possible here.

I would also hugely applaud any partnerships here that would be the start of a real economic system. Win-win situations, based on for instance Ad deals or other ways both parties would profit and grow within the Nxt ecosystem.

At least have a good look at it and don't forget to also read these threads:

Freebieservers.com - 75,000 Users and growing!
https://nxtforum.org/asset-exchange-general/freebieservers-com-75-000-users-and-growing!/

Mynxt.info + Freebieservers
https://nxtforum.org/marketing-committee/mynxt-info-freebieservers/

xchrix · « **Reply #24 on:** January 14, 2015, 06:16:34 pm »

i also think this is the perfect user group for cryptocurrencies!
you got me. buying some shares now...
i will try to convince some friends to also buy some share

Damelon · « **Reply #25 on:** January 14, 2015, 06:18:20 pm »

Quote from: xchrix on January 14, 2015, 06:16:34 pm

i also think this is the perfect user group for cryptocurrencies!
you got me. buying some shares now...
i will try to convince some friends to also buy some share

I don't know if FS currently has shares for sale.
Please check the account that sells first.

Cassius · « **Reply #26 on:** January 14, 2015, 06:43:32 pm »

Quote from: Damelon on January 14, 2015, 06:18:20 pm

Quote from: xchrix on January 14, 2015, 06:16:34 pm
i also think this is the perfect user group for cryptocurrencies!
you got me. buying some shares now...
i will try to convince some friends to also buy some share

I don't know if FS currently has shares for sale.
Please check the account that sells first.

No, he's all sold out. These are secondary market.
Maybe we need a new asset with a different revenue setup? People like assets more than donations.

Freebieservers · « **Reply #27 on:** January 16, 2015, 04:03:32 pm »

Our new bill panel is live. Feel free to head over and try it out.
We'll be having an AMA on reddit soon. Dates will be announced.

Damelon · « **Reply #28 on:** January 16, 2015, 04:21:02 pm »

Quote from: Freebieservers on January 16, 2015, 04:03:32 pm

Our new bill panel is live. Feel free to head over and try it out.
We'll be having an AMA on reddit soon. Dates will be announced.

To add to this: test it by signing up and then going to "Order Now"

The you can see the following screen and play around

Windjc · « **Reply #29 on:** January 17, 2015, 02:28:37 am »

Look, I love the idea.

But I think you guys need to get creative. Asking people to donate money that they will never see again to put into anyones hands with the hope that somehow it will populate the Nxt userbase in a gamechanging or price changing way is A LOT to ask.

Figure out a way to make it potentially profitable to INVEST not donate.

Yes, you have to think outside the box. But that's where most of the great ideas are anyway - outside the box. How can this be a WIN-WIN for everyone? Thats what you have to figure out.

Freebieservers · « **Reply #30 on:** January 20, 2015, 05:57:53 pm »

Quote from: Windjc on January 17, 2015, 02:28:37 am

Look, I love the idea.

But I think you guys need to get creative. Asking people to donate money that they will never see again to put into anyones hands with the hope that somehow it will populate the Nxt userbase in a gamechanging or price changing way is A LOT to ask.

Figure out a way to make it potentially profitable to INVEST not donate.

Yes, you have to think outside the box. But that's where most of the great ideas are anyway - outside the box. How can this be a WIN-WIN for everyone? Thats what you have to figure out.

Hey there,

A lot of people have been asking for "proof" of the impact of our advertising campaigns, so here we go

http://www.mynxt.info/charts/number_of_accounts.php?limit=90

Number of wallets on the day we started : 86904
Number of wallets as of today : 97203

Total hike in number of wallets : 10299
Total number of wallets opened by FS users : 7125

Or : Total percentage of wallets opened by FS users : 70 percent of all Nxt wallets opened last month.

Further analysis on how this went last week (We haven't been paid for anything beyond 2k users - so yes, we sent in 5.1k users for free these days)

http://www.mynxt.info/charts/number_of_accounts.php?limit=7

You will notice - an average of 500-600 wallets made each day - of which, 300-450 are usually from FS.

Just wanted to clear this with the general populace.
While its up to the community to make a call on whether or not they'd want to support us in our endeavour , I'd want our work to be acknowledged.

P.s - for those donating heavily, I'll have an alternate proposal soon.

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gs02xzz · « **Reply #31 on:** January 20, 2015, 06:07:43 pm »

Quote from: Freebieservers on January 20, 2015, 05:57:53 pm

Total hike in number of wallets : 10299
Total number of wallets opened by FS users : 7125
Or : Total percentage of wallets opened by FS users : 70 percent of all Nxt wallets opened last month.

+1.

egold · « **Reply #32 on:** January 20, 2015, 06:08:41 pm »

Is this your account? NXT-6KQH-6QCB-NTE8-HAYLH

It sends 25 NXT transactions to many accounts, which are then recycled to a bter account, I assume, to dump for Bitcoin: NXT-J2CJ-FBR9-ZE9S-F8HY4

I am sorry if it's not your account.

Freebieservers · « **Reply #33 on:** January 20, 2015, 06:21:07 pm »

We have a few new products coming out in the market later this weekend

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Looking forward to do a live preview soon.

JamesList · « **Reply #34 on:** January 21, 2015, 12:49:40 pm »

great work freebie!

Damelon · « **Reply #35 on:** January 21, 2015, 01:35:45 pm »

Quote from: egold on January 20, 2015, 06:08:41 pm

Is this your account? NXT-6KQH-6QCB-NTE8-HAYLH

It sends 25 NXT transactions to many accounts, which are then recycled to a bter account, I assume, to dump for Bitcoin: NXT-J2CJ-FBR9-ZE9S-F8HY4

I am sorry if it's not your account.

This is an account for registering accounts on mynxt, so yes.
Some people cash it out, some people pool it together into group accounts.
It's what users do.
Mynxt has confirmed that 20-25% of new users on FS have used their accounts 3 times or more. That's actually pretty good conversion.

Cassius · « **Reply #36 on:** January 21, 2015, 01:40:35 pm »

Quote from: Damelon on January 21, 2015, 01:35:45 pm

Quote from: egold on January 20, 2015, 06:08:41 pm
Is this your account? NXT-6KQH-6QCB-NTE8-HAYLH

It sends 25 NXT transactions to many accounts, which are then recycled to a bter account, I assume, to dump for Bitcoin: NXT-J2CJ-FBR9-ZE9S-F8HY4

I am sorry if it's not your account.

This is an account for registering accounts on mynxt, so yes.
Some people cash it out, some people pool it together into group accounts.
It's what users do.
Mynxt has confirmed that 20-25% of new users on FS have used their accounts 3 times or more. That's actually pretty good conversion.

It's a shame we don't know what happens after that. 25 NXT of BTC isn't enough to cash out, and I doubt all these people already use BTC anyway... so what are they doing with it?

Damelon · « **Reply #37 on:** January 21, 2015, 01:45:31 pm »

Quote from: Cassius on January 21, 2015, 01:40:35 pm

Quote from: Damelon on January 21, 2015, 01:35:45 pm
Quote from: egold on January 20, 2015, 06:08:41 pm
Is this your account? NXT-6KQH-6QCB-NTE8-HAYLH

It sends 25 NXT transactions to many accounts, which are then recycled to a bter account, I assume, to dump for Bitcoin: NXT-J2CJ-FBR9-ZE9S-F8HY4

I am sorry if it's not your account.

This is an account for registering accounts on mynxt, so yes.
Some people cash it out, some people pool it together into group accounts.
It's what users do.
Mynxt has confirmed that 20-25% of new users on FS have used their accounts 3 times or more. That's actually pretty good conversion.

It's a shame we don't know what happens after that. 25 NXT of BTC isn't enough to cash out, and I doubt all these people already use BTC anyway... so what are they doing with it?

The first step is introducing them to the system.
If you look at this post, you can see what can be done with the funds: https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/freebieservers-fundraising-proposal/msg152128/#msg152128

Step by step.

Cassius · « **Reply #38 on:** January 21, 2015, 01:47:00 pm »

Quote from: Damelon on January 21, 2015, 01:45:31 pm

Quote from: Cassius on January 21, 2015, 01:40:35 pm
Quote from: Damelon on January 21, 2015, 01:35:45 pm
Quote from: egold on January 20, 2015, 06:08:41 pm
Is this your account? NXT-6KQH-6QCB-NTE8-HAYLH

It sends 25 NXT transactions to many accounts, which are then recycled to a bter account, I assume, to dump for Bitcoin: NXT-J2CJ-FBR9-ZE9S-F8HY4

I am sorry if it's not your account.

This is an account for registering accounts on mynxt, so yes.
Some people cash it out, some people pool it together into group accounts.
It's what users do.
Mynxt has confirmed that 20-25% of new users on FS have used their accounts 3 times or more. That's actually pretty good conversion.

It's a shame we don't know what happens after that. 25 NXT of BTC isn't enough to cash out, and I doubt all these people already use BTC anyway... so what are they doing with it?

The first step is introducing them to the system.
If you look at this post, you can see what can be done with the funds: https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/freebieservers-fundraising-proposal/msg152128/#msg152128

Step by step.

No - I mean the ones that cash out to BTER! 25 NXT is too little to withdraw, so what are they doing afterwards?

Damelon · « **Reply #39 on:** January 21, 2015, 01:49:56 pm »

Apart from conducting a survey, there is no way to get this info with metrics

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