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Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2015, 03:47:52 am »

1. Can you use instantDex tech? This will make trade faster.
2. Can the info UI be seperated from the trade UI? Most of time, i want to read the info and check the price. I need not to load the trade data once I open the page. This can make it faster.

3. Can a third-party comment on an asset? So people can choose better asset, and abanden rubbish.
We can choose good assets to be a special list. The thirdparty do work like nasdaq.
Yes, we're going to integrate InstantDEX at coinomat!
The other suggestions are interesting too, probably we would need some rating system built in NXT platform
This would be a great progress no other coin has
the rating system need not to be decetralised, though it is better to be.

A rating system which uses the Nxt Voting System is a good idea :)
and we need to consider whether everyone can vote,
or a third-party certifacate some assets and list them somewhere(like NASDAQ)
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« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2015, 07:23:04 am »

Actually some tweak of the voting system could make a reputation system for NXT
this is very good idea, needs some deliberation as with any reputation system, though.
Not clear if weighting votes by account balance is a good idea here, for example
1. Can you use instantDex tech? This will make trade faster.
2. Can the info UI be seperated from the trade UI? Most of time, i want to read the info and check the price. I need not to load the trade data once I open the page. This can make it faster.

3. Can a third-party comment on an asset? So people can choose better asset, and abanden rubbish.
We can choose good assets to be a special list. The thirdparty do work like nasdaq.
Yes, we're going to integrate InstantDEX at coinomat!
The other suggestions are interesting too, probably we would need some rating system built in NXT platform
This would be a great progress no other coin has
the rating system need not to be decetralised, though it is better to be.

A rating system which uses the Nxt Voting System is a good idea :)
and we need to consider whether everyone can vote,
or a third-party certifacate some assets and list them somewhere(like NASDAQ)
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Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2015, 08:43:43 am »

starting from Monday next week, landing page will be online over the weekend so if someone has some ideas they will be taken into account. Contact me if you have any ideas! here or on slack, #cryptoasset_fund channel
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« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2015, 02:39:52 pm »

Starting this week!
let's discuss the landing page http://1000assets.net/
what would you like to see there, which links, what services should be recommended to aspiring NXT asset issuers?
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Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2015, 04:45:29 pm »


Since a long time, I have an idea of a Game who use Nxt tools (and specifically the asset exchange). The game is a sort of "anonymous and online" LARP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_action_role-playing_game)

I have the skills and the tools to create flexible and multi-language scenarios. It will be an investigation on the Nxt platform and online roleplay  (message on Nxt, forum and chat). It will be also a trading and economy game.

The main goal is to have some fun during a night. But it's also a good experience to discover the Nxt features.

It could be a tool for the Asset Exchange promotion.
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Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2015, 07:43:53 pm »


Since a long time, I have an idea of a Game who use Nxt tools (and specifically the asset exchange). The game is a sort of "anonymous and online" LARP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_action_role-playing_game)

I have the skills and the tools to create flexible and multi-language scenarios. It will be an investigation on the Nxt platform and online roleplay  (message on Nxt, forum and chat). It will be also a trading and economy game.

The main goal is to have some fun during a night. But it's also a good experience to discover the Nxt features.

It could be a tool for the Asset Exchange promotion.
Cool stuff, do you have some specification?
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« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2015, 08:45:50 pm »

What I need is :

- Time, I'm booked for other LARP writing until november. Writing LARP and RPG is my daily job. I think the game will be better with the account control and the shuffling.

- I need a business plan and certainly funding. I can create a business plan who use the feature of Nxt : asset exchange, monetary system and market place.
For the funding, I need investors, presale of games and/or donations or sponsoring (I can integrate some business in the scenario).
I can integrate some real Nxt "characters" : GEFLU, emule, James, BCNext or other peoples.
We can begin with a little budget : a little LARP for 10 characters/players. I think, it's 1 week of writing if every thing is ready: funding, tools and game content.

- I need some technical assistance of devs and servers: I need a Nxt clone easy to create. Ideally it could be a new "test net" for every games. I need a bot or a tool who create automatically the "situation of the beginning":
1 The assets and MScoins used in the game.
2 Encrypted messages (before the game)
3 The players accounts and every things needed
In an ideal situation, a UI with multiple accounts could be great for the animator who have to play "some specials characters" and launch some special events from different accounts : pump, dump or other funny events.

- I need a "fake Nxt forum" and a IRC chat for the players. I think, it's an easy part.

- In November I'll have a great LARP gestion tool from an other LARP project. It can be used to make easy the creation/translation management. It can be use to generate the "initial settings" of the game that should be created on the "test net".

- I need translators and editors. Because I'll write it in French.

What you should know :
- About the price, it shoud be 500 € for a game (for 10 persons) for ~5 hours. It's not cheap but it's comparable with "Escape the room" games (cheaper but only 1 hour game) or laser game. And it's a more immersive game, because you play a character with full background and specific goals.
- The french speaking version can be promoted by my own business "Plaisir d'histoire" in the real life world. Nothing to do with the crypto/Nxt communities.
- The English (and other languages) can be commercialised by other gaming company...
- If I'm fully paid for my work, I'm open with a opensource game concept.

If some people are interested, I can create a business plan of the project.
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« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2015, 08:57:25 pm »

What I need is :

- Time, I'm booked for other LARP writing until november. Writing LARP and RPG is my daily job. I think the game will be better with the account control and the shuffling.

- I need a business plan and certainly funding. I can create a business plan who use the feature of Nxt : asset exchange, monetary system and market place.
For the funding, I need investors, presale of games and/or donations or sponsoring (I can integrate some business in the scenario).
I can integrate some real Nxt "characters" : GEFLU, emule, James, BCNext or other peoples.
We can begin with a little budget : a little LARP for 10 characters/players. I think, it's 1 week of writing if every thing is ready: funding, tools and game content.

- I need some technical assistance of devs and servers: I need a Nxt clone easy to create. Ideally it could be a new "test net" for every games. I need a bot or a tool who create automatically the "situation of the beginning":
1 The assets and MScoins used in the game.
2 Encrypted messages (before the game)
3 The players accounts and every things needed
In an ideal situation, a UI with multiple accounts could be great for the animator who have to play "some specials characters" and launch some special events from different accounts : pump, dump or other funny events.

- I need a "fake Nxt forum" and a IRC chat for the players. I think, it's an easy part.

- In November I'll have a great LARP gestion tool from an other LARP project. It can be used to make easy the creation/translation management. It can be use to generate the "initial settings" of the game that should be created on the "test net".

- I need translators and editors. Because I'll write it in French.

What you should know :
- About the price, it shoud be 500 € for a game (for 10 persons) for ~5 hours. It's not cheap but it's comparable with "Escape the room" games (cheaper but only 1 hour game) or laser game. And it's a more immersive game, because you play a character with full background and specific goals.
- The french speaking version can be promoted by my own business "Plaisir d'histoire" in the real life world. Nothing to do with the crypto/Nxt communities.
- The English (and other languages) can be commercialised by other gaming company...
- If I'm fully paid for my work, I'm open with a opensource game concept.

If some people are interested, I can create a business plan of the project.
Good explanation!! I will contribute with 1btc. I known It's a shit, but I haven't liquidity

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« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2015, 09:34:11 pm »

Sounds awesome, please prepare a business plan, I'll invest.
What I need is :

- Time, I'm booked for other LARP writing until november. Writing LARP and RPG is my daily job. I think the game will be better with the account control and the shuffling.

- I need a business plan and certainly funding. I can create a business plan who use the feature of Nxt : asset exchange, monetary system and market place.
For the funding, I need investors, presale of games and/or donations or sponsoring (I can integrate some business in the scenario).
I can integrate some real Nxt "characters" : GEFLU, emule, James, BCNext or other peoples.
We can begin with a little budget : a little LARP for 10 characters/players. I think, it's 1 week of writing if every thing is ready: funding, tools and game content.

- I need some technical assistance of devs and servers: I need a Nxt clone easy to create. Ideally it could be a new "test net" for every games. I need a bot or a tool who create automatically the "situation of the beginning":
1 The assets and MScoins used in the game.
2 Encrypted messages (before the game)
3 The players accounts and every things needed
In an ideal situation, a UI with multiple accounts could be great for the animator who have to play "some specials characters" and launch some special events from different accounts : pump, dump or other funny events.

- I need a "fake Nxt forum" and a IRC chat for the players. I think, it's an easy part.

- In November I'll have a great LARP gestion tool from an other LARP project. It can be used to make easy the creation/translation management. It can be use to generate the "initial settings" of the game that should be created on the "test net".

- I need translators and editors. Because I'll write it in French.

What you should know :
- About the price, it shoud be 500 € for a game (for 10 persons) for ~5 hours. It's not cheap but it's comparable with "Escape the room" games (cheaper but only 1 hour game) or laser game. And it's a more immersive game, because you play a character with full background and specific goals.
- The french speaking version can be promoted by my own business "Plaisir d'histoire" in the real life world. Nothing to do with the crypto/Nxt communities.
- The English (and other languages) can be commercialised by other gaming company...
- If I'm fully paid for my work, I'm open with a opensource game concept.

If some people are interested, I can create a business plan of the project.
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Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2015, 06:56:17 am »

I have a little budget projection: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QfrE1UaqCh-j-20UyJhYof7G_3_bKZe8NqLC_r3l0wg/edit#gid=0

We need:
- 500k NXT sponsorship
- 500k NXT donation
- 500k NXT external investment

The profitability of investment  begins at 100 games. It's a lot !!!

This budget is a basis. For sure we can make it better according to the opportunities.
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« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2015, 09:35:39 am »

This is a great overall initiative, and I love the idea of Ludom's game. I've wanted to do something like this on top of Nxt for a long time, Kingdom of Loathing style or similar :) Though I think EUR 500 is a lot - do you have a sense of the market?

Otherwise, asset issuers please think about raising funds in BTC and fiat, and finding ways to trade your asset in those currencies too. I think this will be quite important to the long-term health of Nxt.
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« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2015, 06:33:56 pm »

This is a great overall initiative, and I love the idea of Ludom's game. I've wanted to do something like this on top of Nxt for a long time, Kingdom of Loathing style or similar :) Though I think EUR 500 is a lot - do you have a sense of the market?

Yes, I have a sense of the market. Creation and animation of such a game is my daily job. It's one of the principal task of Plaisir d'histoire (and my business is living right now a big development).
I don't give this price from nowhere, it corresponds to my normal price list. But you know, I'm Swiss and I live in one of the most expensive country in the world.
So... yes I can sold a good game for 500 € in Switzerland: companies, curious people, education programs...

But this price depend of my price for preparation of a game + an half day animation of a game = 300 €. It's look like very well paid but it's not so much if you have to : pay taxes and social fees. Because I'm a professional and I don't work in black.

But should I be the animator? Do you want to drive the games in English cheaper? No problem for me. The price is :
- Preparation and animation costs : 300
- Royalties to remunerate the investors (assets holders) : 150
- Royalties for the use of a "LARP program" : 50

If we find a skilled person who are ready to work for less, it's great. Some persons can be happy if they win 100 € for an half day of work (In Switzerland, it's impossible to live with that, but in other country, for sure yes).
I can train some other animators: in English, French, German and other languages.

If we find more advertisers and sponsoring, we need less investment and we can lower the Royalties.
If we lower the cost of the project, it's the same.

And if we find the funds for all the project, we can make it open source and free on the internet.

The budget is "an exemple" of the project if I have to do it alone (with my enterprise "Plaisir d'histoire"), without help. Only donations and investments.
It's the "version 0" of the project. Now we have to make it better, cheaper and more profitable.
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« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2015, 07:05:48 pm »

This is a great overall initiative, and I love the idea of Ludom's game. I've wanted to do something like this on top of Nxt for a long time, Kingdom of Loathing style or similar :) Though I think EUR 500 is a lot - do you have a sense of the market?

Otherwise, asset issuers please think about raising funds in BTC and fiat, and finding ways to trade your asset in those currencies too. I think this will be quite important to the long-term health of Nxt.
I'm thinking about completely currency-agnostic blockchain,  you just issue a token on it and it can be traded for whatever you want afterwards.
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« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2015, 08:41:24 am »

This is a great overall initiative, and I love the idea of Ludom's game. I've wanted to do something like this on top of Nxt for a long time, Kingdom of Loathing style or similar :) Though I think EUR 500 is a lot - do you have a sense of the market?

Otherwise, asset issuers please think about raising funds in BTC and fiat, and finding ways to trade your asset in those currencies too. I think this will be quite important to the long-term health of Nxt.
I'm thinking about completely currency-agnostic blockchain,  you just issue a token on it and it can be traded for whatever you want afterwards.

You mean using Nxt as a currency-agnostic blockchain?
I'm seeing Nxt more and more as an administrative platform that pays out in NXT to assetholders, but with issuers collecting funds from elsewhere. (Generally they just get sold for startup costs anyway)

@ludom I'll take your word for it. It's a cool project and I'm looking forward to seeing where it goes.
Do you have examples of the type of game you'd make?
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« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2015, 01:39:37 pm »

This is a great overall initiative, and I love the idea of Ludom's game. I've wanted to do something like this on top of Nxt for a long time, Kingdom of Loathing style or similar :) Though I think EUR 500 is a lot - do you have a sense of the market?

Otherwise, asset issuers please think about raising funds in BTC and fiat, and finding ways to trade your asset in those currencies too. I think this will be quite important to the long-term health of Nxt.
I'm thinking about completely currency-agnostic blockchain,  you just issue a token on it and it can be traded for whatever you want afterwards.

You mean using Nxt as a currency-agnostic blockchain?
I'm seeing Nxt more and more as an administrative platform that pays out in NXT to assetholders, but with issuers collecting funds from elsewhere. (Generally they just get sold for startup costs anyway)

@ludom I'll take your word for it. It's a cool project and I'm looking forward to seeing where it goes.
Do you have examples of the type of game you'd make?
Would be cool to take "currency" out of cryptocurrency completely. You just issue a token on a blockchain, and people pay you USD if they want it.  It is possible to have a blockchain without intrinsic value token at all, it's just crypto development took an easier route,
it's definitely easier with an in-built coin.
But it's sure possible to pay miners directly in USD, we just have to find a sleek way to do it.
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« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2015, 02:03:27 pm »

So #1000assets campaign has officially started!
official website: http://1000assets.net
official twitter: http://twitter.com/1000assets
Official donation account: NXT-QFBR-43J5-TGVV-G9GRK

Besides crypto communities we're be targeting start-up and crowdfunding communities. Help us promote NXT AE and NXT in general.
There are very serious reasons to think that this is a turning point for crypto, the moment of general adoption of blockchain technology.
NXT has a very nice opportunity to become one of the major blockchains for decades to come. Let's do our best to make it happen.
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« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2015, 02:09:52 pm »

So #1000assets campaign has officially started!
official website: http://1000assets.net
official twitter: http://twitter.com/1000assets
Official donation account: NXT-QFBR-43J5-TGVV-G9GRK

Besides crypto communities we're be targeting start-up and crowdfunding communities. Help us promote NXT AE and NXT in general.
There are very serious reasons to think that this is a turning point for crypto, the moment of general adoption of blockchain technology.
NXT has a very nice opportunity to become one of the major blockchains for decades to come. Let's do our best to make it happen.

Please make a transaction and public Key announcemen for your donation account ;)

I like this initiative!

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« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2015, 02:36:51 pm »

So #1000assets campaign has officially started!
official website: http://1000assets.net
official twitter: http://twitter.com/1000assets
Official donation account: NXT-QFBR-43J5-TGVV-G9GRK

Besides crypto communities we're be targeting start-up and crowdfunding communities. Help us promote NXT AE and NXT in general.
There are very serious reasons to think that this is a turning point for crypto, the moment of general adoption of blockchain technology.
NXT has a very nice opportunity to become one of the major blockchains for decades to come. Let's do our best to make it happen.


Please make a transaction and public Key announcemen for your donation account ;)

I like this initiative!
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« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2015, 03:46:51 am »

Great project / initiative, I also think that in a bear NXT market, especially we should have a booming asset exchange.

Perhaps we need more transparancy for the assets, and more reviews of established ones, that could boost trust and make more investors invest in the AE instead of sitting on the NXT.
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« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2015, 08:10:28 am »

I like the idea of more asset reviews and better transparency.

Here's why I think assets need to be funded by and traded in BTC and fiat, rather than NXT alone: http://nxter.org/nxt-and-the-great-depression-avoiding-the-crunch/
Basically, using NXT to fund and trade assets ties it up and risks choking liquidity, holding back a recovery.
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