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« on: September 16, 2015, 01:34:08 pm »

Probably we all agree that the most precious NXT asset is the Asset Exchange itself. It is what NXT does best, other crypto 2.0 platforms don't have what NXT has. Asset exchange is quite mature and tested, and I believe even in this bear market NXT and NXT asset exchange deserve much better.  To put it directly people are simply unaware of it. 99% of startups looking for funding have no idea about Asset Exchange. This is not the best time for crypto, but you still can get initial funding for your projects, I talk to many startups and they are really excited about the potential.

Success of NXT as a cryptocurrency platform hinges on success of NXT AE as a crowdfunding platform. More assets at AE will bring more interest to NXT in general, which will be reflected in NXT price.  New asset issuers will bring along new investors. More assets mean more profit opportunities.

Currently there's 593 issued assets. Let's make it to be 1000 till the end of 2015!

We announce a community project aimed at AE promotion in cryptocommunities and beyond.  It will be funded from cryptoasset.fund profits but everyone who wants to donate will have a chance to do so too.

What we plan to do -
- Website will be launched
- Bitcointalk and other bitcoin forums promotions
- Social media campaigns
- advertisement in crypto and mainstream media
- also we plan to launch a centralized crowdfunding platform based on AE in near future

NXT community has all the necessary tools to weed out scammers and endorse assets which can bring real value. There can be a lot of work for NXTinspect but it will be rewarded.

Special account for donations will be created, all promotions spends will be transparent.

Please share your ideas about ways we can promote AE better and create more action there.

Official donation account: NXT-QFBR-43J5-TGVV-G9GRK

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Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2015, 01:56:10 pm »

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- also we plan to launch a centralized crowdfunding platform based on AE in near future

Do you know http://www.nxt-starter.com ?

Maybe you can contact Nxt Forum menber POPPP it's his project.



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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2015, 02:11:52 pm »

Thank you! I will. The idea is to unify community efforts in this.
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Do you know http://www.nxt-starter.com ?

Maybe you can contact Nxt Forum menber POPPP it's his project.
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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2015, 03:12:00 pm »

Nice move!! Count on us for PR

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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2015, 04:37:57 pm »


"also we plan to launch a centralized crowdfunding platform based on AE in near future" <- I would like to hear more info about this one.

This one got me thinking: what is the problem with the way things are right now? I'm sure it is obvious, but we are missing flashy graphics (a simple webpage).

If there is a person looking for way to crowdfund, there is no simple place that explains NXT AE. The problem is that most people are lazy and they want it easy. They do not want to read what AE is, they want to see a couple of headlines and promotional images. They don't want to read what the project is about, but rather see an interesting image that makes them click it.

This is what people should see: https://www.indiegogo.com/ or https://www.kickstarter.com/

1. A simple headline that says it's a crowdfunding platform
2. Ongoing projects with pretty pictures
3. Since we have smart contracts, our adventage is to talk about money, investing and dividends.

There could be three categories: 1) funding projects, 2) ongoing projects, 3) finished projects
Highlight the fact that you can invest to all of them, the status doesn't matter
Finished projects could show their annual rate of returns with the current market price

AE is fundamentally so much better than the other crowdfunding sites :)

Great Idea overall!
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2015, 06:47:29 pm »

Probably we all agree that the most precious NXT asset is the Asset Exchange itself. It is what NXT does best, other crypto 2.0 platforms don't have what NXT has.
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Let's make AE the go-to crowdfunding platform! This is real and doable.
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2015, 06:58:41 pm »

This is a cool suggestion
probably we need a quality one pager website, which explains what you can do with AE in layman's terms.
And it'll evolve in full fledged crowdfunding platform in future.

"also we plan to launch a centralized crowdfunding platform based on AE in near future" <- I would like to hear more info about this one.

This one got me thinking: what is the problem with the way things are right now? I'm sure it is obvious, but we are missing flashy graphics (a simple webpage).

If there is a person looking for way to crowdfund, there is no simple place that explains NXT AE. The problem is that most people are lazy and they want it easy. They do not want to read what AE is, they want to see a couple of headlines and promotional images. They don't want to read what the project is about, but rather see an interesting image that makes them click it.

This is what people should see: https://www.indiegogo.com/ or https://www.kickstarter.com/

1. A simple headline that says it's a crowdfunding platform
2. Ongoing projects with pretty pictures
3. Since we have smart contracts, our adventage is to talk about money, investing and dividends.

There could be three categories: 1) funding projects, 2) ongoing projects, 3) finished projects
Highlight the fact that you can invest to all of them, the status doesn't matter
Finished projects could show their annual rate of returns with the current market price

AE is fundamentally so much better than the other crowdfunding sites :)

Great Idea overall!
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2015, 05:40:00 am »

This all sounds groovy to me! 8)

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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2015, 05:52:12 am »

Isn't MS a better solution for crowdfunding? It has an option where if the goal isn't reached, the MS coin isn't created, and people get their NXT back.

The tricky thing, imo, isn't so much the launch of a campaign (by one person), but contributing to the campaign. You need many many (non-crypto) people to try the NXT client, buy NXT (via BTC?) and then buy the asset/MScoin.

I think it needs to be completely webbased, and the fiat -> NXT route should be easy. That's where most great ideas struggle... Nxtstarter, Freemarket, Melodius. You could ask people that tried crowdfunding via NXT for real world projects (like the Lyth and Voxelnauts games) what they'd like to see improved first.

Personally I think it's very difficult to carve out a niche in the crowdfunding market. There's too many competitors like Kickstarter etc. As a contributor I go for the platform that's easiest. I have no motivation to use a crypto platform at all.

I think it's better to find a niche where crypto has an absolute advantage for the end user, because the real world options are impossible or difficult. In that case I'm REALLY motivated to climb that first learning curve. So what's difficult or impossible? I think it's the 'illegal' applications, like online gambling, dark markets, filesharing.

One (or maybe the only) non-illegal niche I see for crypto (for the end-user) is micropayments. Paywalls for online newspapers where I don't need to buy a subscription or buy a prepaid account for several articles. I just pay a one time 50 nxt for an article I like. I don't know what happened to the Chicago Times experiment a year ago http://www.coindesk.com/micropayments-chicago-sun-times-paywall-live/
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2015, 06:59:33 am »

Isn't MS a better solution for crowdfunding? It has an option where if the goal isn't reached, the MS coin isn't created, and people get their NXT back.

Sounds good! I'm not aware about the technical things so much, I'm just thinking about the general user experiance. Ideally the user wouldn't have to know if the project is using the MS or just the normal asset system. The user would just see that "Project X has to be 100% funded to succeed" or "Project Y is an ongoing developement". Also, the user should see whatever hes support for the project is A) donation (like on the normal crowdfunding sites) or B) an investment (with possible future dividends), and probably also C) does he get equity

Of course when we talk about investing to startups and dividends, there are some regulatory risks. There is a reason why those projects are not allowed to give monetary benefits for supporting their projects :(

The tricky thing, imo, isn't so much the launch of a campaign (by one person), but contributing to the campaign. You need many many (non-crypto) people to try the NXT client, buy NXT (via BTC?) and then buy the asset/MScoin.

I think it needs to be completely webbased, and the fiat -> NXT route should be easy. That's where most great ideas struggle... Nxtstarter, Freemarket, Melodius. You could ask people that tried crowdfunding via NXT for real world projects (like the Lyth and Voxelnauts games) what they'd like to see improved first.

Would it be possible to build a simple webwallet that has CoinoUSD and NXT in it? The CoinoUSD could be transfered there through Coinomat. The user would just connect his bank/credit card to coinomat.com, then his easy-to-use webwallet could be funded with CoinoUSD. The user would not see that it is "CoinoUSD" but it would just show as "USD".

If that is possible, then the mainstream users would have a cryptowallet that looks more like PayPal account and they would have the power to keep their money in USD but still be able to purchase all of the cryptoassets.
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2015, 07:28:06 am »

Tosch110 is working on a crowdfunding plugin that uses the MS system but makes it usable, this video is from an early version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBsKVJYbitY
The last time I asked he said the plugin was under review from an external source and that he had not heard back from them
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2015, 08:11:13 am »

First MS - I must say I'm not a big fan of current MS system in NXT. It seems to be supplementary to AE,  and does not really have traction for now. I will be very glad if it will, but I think we have to focus on what  is proven to work well enough if we want to achieve some breakthrough with NXT acceptance as platform

As for other crowdfunding platforms - the main difference between kickstarter and NXT is you can cash out. You can't cash out at kickstarter. NXT is crowdfunding with exits. This is what should be highligted, as a project backer you can always say your share, this is very interesting for project supporters of course

For people looking for funding on the other hand NXT offers much more flexible platform than kickstarter. Basically you set your own rules here,  regarding the ICO timeframe terms etc. Also kickstarter is not for everything, some niche projects just receive no attention there, I remember several crypto related projects who failed miserably at kickstarter.
Isn't MS a better solution for crowdfunding? It has an option where if the goal isn't reached, the MS coin isn't created, and people get their NXT back.

The tricky thing, imo, isn't so much the launch of a campaign (by one person), but contributing to the campaign. You need many many (non-crypto) people to try the NXT client, buy NXT (via BTC?) and then buy the asset/MScoin.

I think it needs to be completely webbased, and the fiat -> NXT route should be easy. That's where most great ideas struggle... Nxtstarter, Freemarket, Melodius. You could ask people that tried crowdfunding via NXT for real world projects (like the Lyth and Voxelnauts games) what they'd like to see improved first.

Personally I think it's very difficult to carve out a niche in the crowdfunding market. There's too many competitors like Kickstarter etc. As a contributor I go for the platform that's easiest. I have no motivation to use a crypto platform at all.

I think it's better to find a niche where crypto has an absolute advantage for the end user, because the real world options are impossible or difficult. In that case I'm REALLY motivated to climb that first learning curve. So what's difficult or impossible? I think it's the 'illegal' applications, like online gambling, dark markets, filesharing.

One (or maybe the only) non-illegal niche I see for crypto (for the end-user) is micropayments. Paywalls for online newspapers where I don't need to buy a subscription or buy a prepaid account for several articles. I just pay a one time 50 nxt for an article I like. I don't know what happened to the Chicago Times experiment a year ago http://www.coindesk.com/micropayments-chicago-sun-times-paywall-live/
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2015, 08:13:14 am »

That would be very cool of course, but this is the area where you have to be careful with regulators. we'll be working on something similar.
Isn't MS a better solution for crowdfunding? It has an option where if the goal isn't reached, the MS coin isn't created, and people get their NXT back.

Sounds good! I'm not aware about the technical things so much, I'm just thinking about the general user experiance. Ideally the user wouldn't have to know if the project is using the MS or just the normal asset system. The user would just see that "Project X has to be 100% funded to succeed" or "Project Y is an ongoing developement". Also, the user should see whatever hes support for the project is A) donation (like on the normal crowdfunding sites) or B) an investment (with possible future dividends), and probably also C) does he get equity

Of course when we talk about investing to startups and dividends, there are some regulatory risks. There is a reason why those projects are not allowed to give monetary benefits for supporting their projects :(

The tricky thing, imo, isn't so much the launch of a campaign (by one person), but contributing to the campaign. You need many many (non-crypto) people to try the NXT client, buy NXT (via BTC?) and then buy the asset/MScoin.

I think it needs to be completely webbased, and the fiat -> NXT route should be easy. That's where most great ideas struggle... Nxtstarter, Freemarket, Melodius. You could ask people that tried crowdfunding via NXT for real world projects (like the Lyth and Voxelnauts games) what they'd like to see improved first.

Would it be possible to build a simple webwallet that has CoinoUSD and NXT in it? The CoinoUSD could be transfered there through Coinomat. The user would just connect his bank/credit card to coinomat.com, then his easy-to-use webwallet could be funded with CoinoUSD. The user would not see that it is "CoinoUSD" but it would just show as "USD".

If that is possible, then the mainstream users would have a cryptowallet that looks more like PayPal account and they would have the power to keep their money in USD but still be able to purchase all of the cryptoassets.
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2015, 08:15:30 am »

Tosch110 is working on a crowdfunding plugin that uses the MS system but makes it usable, this video is from an early version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBsKVJYbitY
The last time I asked he said the plugin was under review from an external source and that he had not heard back from them
That's great! I'll talk to him regarding this
But, as I mentioned before, I believe AE has all the tools
the only thing AE might lack is changing the number of issued assets, but you can do without it.
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2015, 08:16:25 am »

Will be building a promo website now, if you have any ideas pls share, here or in Supernet slack channel #cryptoasset_fund
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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2015, 03:32:18 pm »

1. Can you use instantDex tech? This will make trade faster.
2. Can the info UI be seperated from the trade UI? Most of time, i want to read the info and check the price. I need not to load the trade data once I open the page. This can make it faster.

3. Can a third-party comment on an asset? So people can choose better asset, and abanden rubbish.
We can choose good assets to be a special list. The thirdparty do work like nasdaq.
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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2015, 08:02:35 pm »

1. Can you use instantDex tech? This will make trade faster.
2. Can the info UI be seperated from the trade UI? Most of time, i want to read the info and check the price. I need not to load the trade data once I open the page. This can make it faster.

3. Can a third-party comment on an asset? So people can choose better asset, and abanden rubbish.
We can choose good assets to be a special list. The thirdparty do work like nasdaq.
Yes, we're going to integrate InstantDEX at coinomat!
The other suggestions are interesting too, probably we would need some rating system built in NXT platform
This would be a great progress no other coin has
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2015, 03:32:14 pm »

1. Can you use instantDex tech? This will make trade faster.
2. Can the info UI be seperated from the trade UI? Most of time, i want to read the info and check the price. I need not to load the trade data once I open the page. This can make it faster.

3. Can a third-party comment on an asset? So people can choose better asset, and abanden rubbish.
We can choose good assets to be a special list. The thirdparty do work like nasdaq.
Yes, we're going to integrate InstantDEX at coinomat!
The other suggestions are interesting too, probably we would need some rating system built in NXT platform
This would be a great progress no other coin has
the rating system need not to be decetralised, though it is better to be.
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2015, 07:40:23 pm »

1. Can you use instantDex tech? This will make trade faster.
2. Can the info UI be seperated from the trade UI? Most of time, i want to read the info and check the price. I need not to load the trade data once I open the page. This can make it faster.

3. Can a third-party comment on an asset? So people can choose better asset, and abanden rubbish.
We can choose good assets to be a special list. The thirdparty do work like nasdaq.
Yes, we're going to integrate InstantDEX at coinomat!
The other suggestions are interesting too, probably we would need some rating system built in NXT platform
This would be a great progress no other coin has
the rating system need not to be decetralised, though it is better to be.

A rating system which uses the Nxt Voting System is a good idea :)

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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2015, 08:14:24 pm »

Do it :)
It would bring a whole new dimension to AE!
1. Can you use instantDex tech? This will make trade faster.
2. Can the info UI be seperated from the trade UI? Most of time, i want to read the info and check the price. I need not to load the trade data once I open the page. This can make it faster.

3. Can a third-party comment on an asset? So people can choose better asset, and abanden rubbish.
We can choose good assets to be a special list. The thirdparty do work like nasdaq.
Yes, we're going to integrate InstantDEX at coinomat!
The other suggestions are interesting too, probably we would need some rating system built in NXT platform
This would be a great progress no other coin has
the rating system need not to be decetralised, though it is better to be.

A rating system which uses the Nxt Voting System is a good idea :)
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