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Thank you! I will. The idea is to unify community efforts in this.

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- also we plan to launch a centralized crowdfunding platform based on AE in near future

Do you know http://www.nxt-starter.com ?

Maybe you can contact Nxt Forum menber POPPP it's his project.

"also we plan to launch a centralized crowdfunding platform based on AE in near future" <- I would like to hear more info about this one.

This one got me thinking: what is the problem with the way things are right now? I'm sure it is obvious, but we are missing flashy graphics (a simple webpage).

If there is a person looking for way to crowdfund, there is no simple place that explains NXT AE. The problem is that most people are lazy and they want it easy. They do not want to read what AE is, they want to see a couple of headlines and promotional images. They don't want to read what the project is about, but rather see an interesting image that makes them click it.

This is what people should see: https://www.indiegogo.com/ or https://www.kickstarter.com/

1. A simple headline that says it's a crowdfunding platform
2. Ongoing projects with pretty pictures
3. Since we have smart contracts, our adventage is to talk about money, investing and dividends.

There could be three categories: 1) funding projects, 2) ongoing projects, 3) finished projects
Highlight the fact that you can invest to all of them, the status doesn't matter
Finished projects could show their annual rate of returns with the current market price

AE is fundamentally so much better than the other crowdfunding sites

Great Idea overall!

This is a cool suggestion
probably we need a quality one pager website, which explains what you can do with AE in layman's terms.
And it'll evolve in full fledged crowdfunding platform in future.

"also we plan to launch a centralized crowdfunding platform based on AE in near future" <- I would like to hear more info about this one.

This one got me thinking: what is the problem with the way things are right now? I'm sure it is obvious, but we are missing flashy graphics (a simple webpage).

If there is a person looking for way to crowdfund, there is no simple place that explains NXT AE. The problem is that most people are lazy and they want it easy. They do not want to read what AE is, they want to see a couple of headlines and promotional images. They don't want to read what the project is about, but rather see an interesting image that makes them click it.

This is what people should see: https://www.indiegogo.com/ or https://www.kickstarter.com/

1. A simple headline that says it's a crowdfunding platform
2. Ongoing projects with pretty pictures
3. Since we have smart contracts, our adventage is to talk about money, investing and dividends.

There could be three categories: 1) funding projects, 2) ongoing projects, 3) finished projects
Highlight the fact that you can invest to all of them, the status doesn't matter
Finished projects could show their annual rate of returns with the current market price

AE is fundamentally so much better than the other crowdfunding sites

Great Idea overall!

Isn't MS a better solution for crowdfunding? It has an option where if the goal isn't reached, the MS coin isn't created, and people get their NXT back.

The tricky thing, imo, isn't so much the launch of a campaign (by one person), but contributing to the campaign. You need many many (non-crypto) people to try the NXT client, buy NXT (via BTC?) and then buy the asset/MScoin.

I think it needs to be completely webbased, and the fiat -> NXT route should be easy. That's where most great ideas struggle... Nxtstarter, Freemarket, Melodius. You could ask people that tried crowdfunding via NXT for real world projects (like the Lyth and Voxelnauts games) what they'd like to see improved first.

Personally I think it's very difficult to carve out a niche in the crowdfunding market. There's too many competitors like Kickstarter etc. As a contributor I go for the platform that's easiest. I have no motivation to use a crypto platform at all.

I think it's better to find a niche where crypto has an absolute advantage for the end user, because the real world options are impossible or difficult. In that case I'm REALLY motivated to climb that first learning curve. So what's difficult or impossible? I think it's the 'illegal' applications, like online gambling, dark markets, filesharing.

One (or maybe the only) non-illegal niche I see for crypto (for the end-user) is micropayments. Paywalls for online newspapers where I don't need to buy a subscription or buy a prepaid account for several articles. I just pay a one time 50 nxt for an article I like. I don't know what happened to the Chicago Times experiment a year ago http://www.coindesk.com/micropayments-chicago-sun-times-paywall-live/

Tosch110 is working on a crowdfunding plugin that uses the MS system but makes it usable, this video is from an early version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBsKVJYbitY
The last time I asked he said the plugin was under review from an external source and that he had not heard back from them

That would be very cool of course, but this is the area where you have to be careful with regulators. we'll be working on something similar.

Quote from: Peter2516 on September 17, 2015, 05:52:12 am

Isn't MS a better solution for crowdfunding? It has an option where if the goal isn't reached, the MS coin isn't created, and people get their NXT back.

Sounds good! I'm not aware about the technical things so much, I'm just thinking about the general user experiance. Ideally the user wouldn't have to know if the project is using the MS or just the normal asset system. The user would just see that "Project X has to be 100% funded to succeed" or "Project Y is an ongoing developement". Also, the user should see whatever hes support for the project is A) donation (like on the normal crowdfunding sites) or B) an investment (with possible future dividends), and probably also C) does he get equity

Of course when we talk about investing to startups and dividends, there are some regulatory risks. There is a reason why those projects are not allowed to give monetary benefits for supporting their projects

Quote from: Peter2516 on September 17, 2015, 05:52:12 am

The tricky thing, imo, isn't so much the launch of a campaign (by one person), but contributing to the campaign. You need many many (non-crypto) people to try the NXT client, buy NXT (via BTC?) and then buy the asset/MScoin.

I think it needs to be completely webbased, and the fiat -> NXT route should be easy. That's where most great ideas struggle... Nxtstarter, Freemarket, Melodius. You could ask people that tried crowdfunding via NXT for real world projects (like the Lyth and Voxelnauts games) what they'd like to see improved first.

Would it be possible to build a simple webwallet that has CoinoUSD and NXT in it? The CoinoUSD could be transfered there through Coinomat. The user would just connect his bank/credit card to coinomat.com, then his easy-to-use webwallet could be funded with CoinoUSD. The user would not see that it is "CoinoUSD" but it would just show as "USD".

If that is possible, then the mainstream users would have a cryptowallet that looks more like PayPal account and they would have the power to keep their money in USD but still be able to purchase all of the cryptoassets.

Will be building a promo website now, if you have any ideas pls share, here or in Supernet slack channel #cryptoasset_fund

1. Can you use instantDex tech? This will make trade faster.
2. Can the info UI be seperated from the trade UI? Most of time, i want to read the info and check the price. I need not to load the trade data once I open the page. This can make it faster.

3. Can a third-party comment on an asset? So people can choose better asset, and abanden rubbish.
We can choose good assets to be a special list. The thirdparty do work like nasdaq.

Yes, we're going to integrate InstantDEX at coinomat!
The other suggestions are interesting too, probably we would need some rating system built in NXT platform
This would be a great progress no other coin has

Quote from: coinomat on September 17, 2015, 08:02:35 pm

Quote from: xiahui135 on September 17, 2015, 03:32:18 pm

1. Can you use instantDex tech? This will make trade faster.
2. Can the info UI be seperated from the trade UI? Most of time, i want to read the info and check the price. I need not to load the trade data once I open the page. This can make it faster.

3. Can a third-party comment on an asset? So people can choose better asset, and abanden rubbish.
We can choose good assets to be a special list. The thirdparty do work like nasdaq.

Yes, we're going to integrate InstantDEX at coinomat!
The other suggestions are interesting too, probably we would need some rating system built in NXT platform
This would be a great progress no other coin has

the rating system need not to be decetralised, though it is better to be.

A rating system which uses the Nxt Voting System is a good idea

Quote from: xiahui135 on September 18, 2015, 03:32:14 pm

Quote from: coinomat on September 17, 2015, 08:02:35 pm

Quote from: xiahui135 on September 17, 2015, 03:32:18 pm

1. Can you use instantDex tech? This will make trade faster.
2. Can the info UI be seperated from the trade UI? Most of time, i want to read the info and check the price. I need not to load the trade data once I open the page. This can make it faster.

3. Can a third-party comment on an asset? So people can choose better asset, and abanden rubbish.
We can choose good assets to be a special list. The thirdparty do work like nasdaq.

Yes, we're going to integrate InstantDEX at coinomat!
The other suggestions are interesting too, probably we would need some rating system built in NXT platform
This would be a great progress no other coin has

the rating system need not to be decetralised, though it is better to be.

A rating system which uses the Nxt Voting System is a good idea

and we need to consider whether everyone can vote,
or a third-party certifacate some assets and list them somewhere(like NASDAQ)

starting from Monday next week, landing page will be online over the weekend so if someone has some ideas they will be taken into account. Contact me if you have any ideas! here or on slack, #cryptoasset_fund channel

Since a long time, I have an idea of a Game who use Nxt tools (and specifically the asset exchange). The game is a sort of "anonymous and online" LARP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_action_role-playing_game)

I have the skills and the tools to create flexible and multi-language scenarios. It will be an investigation on the Nxt platform and online roleplay  (message on Nxt, forum and chat). It will be also a trading and economy game.

The main goal is to have some fun during a night. But it's also a good experience to discover the Nxt features.

It could be a tool for the Asset Exchange promotion.

What I need is :

- Time, I'm booked for other LARP writing until november. Writing LARP and RPG is my daily job. I think the game will be better with the account control and the shuffling.

- I need a business plan and certainly funding. I can create a business plan who use the feature of Nxt : asset exchange, monetary system and market place.
For the funding, I need investors, presale of games and/or donations or sponsoring (I can integrate some business in the scenario).
I can integrate some real Nxt "characters" : GEFLU, emule, James, BCNext or other peoples.
We can begin with a little budget : a little LARP for 10 characters/players. I think, it's 1 week of writing if every thing is ready: funding, tools and game content.

- I need some technical assistance of devs and servers: I need a Nxt clone easy to create. Ideally it could be a new "test net" for every games. I need a bot or a tool who create automatically the "situation of the beginning":
1 The assets and MScoins used in the game.
2 Encrypted messages (before the game)
3 The players accounts and every things needed
In an ideal situation, a UI with multiple accounts could be great for the animator who have to play "some specials characters" and launch some special events from different accounts : pump, dump or other funny events.

- I need a "fake Nxt forum" and a IRC chat for the players. I think, it's an easy part.

- In November I'll have a great LARP gestion tool from an other LARP project. It can be used to make easy the creation/translation management. It can be use to generate the "initial settings" of the game that should be created on the "test net".

- I need translators and editors. Because I'll write it in French.

What you should know :
- About the price, it shoud be 500 € for a game (for 10 persons) for ~5 hours. It's not cheap but it's comparable with "Escape the room" games (cheaper but only 1 hour game) or laser game. And it's a more immersive game, because you play a character with full background and specific goals.
- The french speaking version can be promoted by my own business "Plaisir d'histoire" in the real life world. Nothing to do with the crypto/Nxt communities.
- The English (and other languages) can be commercialised by other gaming company...
- If I'm fully paid for my work, I'm open with a opensource game concept.

If some people are interested, I can create a business plan of the project.

Sounds awesome, please prepare a business plan, I'll invest.

What I need is :

- Time, I'm booked for other LARP writing until november. Writing LARP and RPG is my daily job. I think the game will be better with the account control and the shuffling.

- I need a business plan and certainly funding. I can create a business plan who use the feature of Nxt : asset exchange, monetary system and market place.
For the funding, I need investors, presale of games and/or donations or sponsoring (I can integrate some business in the scenario).
I can integrate some real Nxt "characters" : GEFLU, emule, James, BCNext or other peoples.
We can begin with a little budget : a little LARP for 10 characters/players. I think, it's 1 week of writing if every thing is ready: funding, tools and game content.

- I need some technical assistance of devs and servers: I need a Nxt clone easy to create. Ideally it could be a new "test net" for every games. I need a bot or a tool who create automatically the "situation of the beginning":
1 The assets and MScoins used in the game.
2 Encrypted messages (before the game)
3 The players accounts and every things needed
In an ideal situation, a UI with multiple accounts could be great for the animator who have to play "some specials characters" and launch some special events from different accounts : pump, dump or other funny events.

- I need a "fake Nxt forum" and a IRC chat for the players. I think, it's an easy part.

- In November I'll have a great LARP gestion tool from an other LARP project. It can be used to make easy the creation/translation management. It can be use to generate the "initial settings" of the game that should be created on the "test net".

- I need translators and editors. Because I'll write it in French.

What you should know :
- About the price, it shoud be 500 € for a game (for 10 persons) for ~5 hours. It's not cheap but it's comparable with "Escape the room" games (cheaper but only 1 hour game) or laser game. And it's a more immersive game, because you play a character with full background and specific goals.
- The french speaking version can be promoted by my own business "Plaisir d'histoire" in the real life world. Nothing to do with the crypto/Nxt communities.
- The English (and other languages) can be commercialised by other gaming company...
- If I'm fully paid for my work, I'm open with a opensource game concept.

If some people are interested, I can create a business plan of the project.

This is a great overall initiative, and I love the idea of Ludom's game. I've wanted to do something like this on top of Nxt for a long time, Kingdom of Loathing style or similar Though I think EUR 500 is a lot - do you have a sense of the market?

Otherwise, asset issuers please think about raising funds in BTC and fiat, and finding ways to trade your asset in those currencies too. I think this will be quite important to the long-term health of Nxt.

This is a great overall initiative, and I love the idea of Ludom's game. I've wanted to do something like this on top of Nxt for a long time, Kingdom of Loathing style or similar Though I think EUR 500 is a lot - do you have a sense of the market?

Otherwise, asset issuers please think about raising funds in BTC and fiat, and finding ways to trade your asset in those currencies too. I think this will be quite important to the long-term health of Nxt.

I'm thinking about completely currency-agnostic blockchain,  you just issue a token on it and it can be traded for whatever you want afterwards.

Quote from: coinomat on September 29, 2015, 07:05:48 pm

Quote from: Cassius on September 29, 2015, 09:35:39 am

This is a great overall initiative, and I love the idea of Ludom's game. I've wanted to do something like this on top of Nxt for a long time, Kingdom of Loathing style or similar Though I think EUR 500 is a lot - do you have a sense of the market?

Otherwise, asset issuers please think about raising funds in BTC and fiat, and finding ways to trade your asset in those currencies too. I think this will be quite important to the long-term health of Nxt.

I'm thinking about completely currency-agnostic blockchain,  you just issue a token on it and it can be traded for whatever you want afterwards.

You mean using Nxt as a currency-agnostic blockchain?
I'm seeing Nxt more and more as an administrative platform that pays out in NXT to assetholders, but with issuers collecting funds from elsewhere. (Generally they just get sold for startup costs anyway)

@ludom I'll take your word for it. It's a cool project and I'm looking forward to seeing where it goes.
Do you have examples of the type of game you'd make?

Would be cool to take "currency" out of cryptocurrency completely. You just issue a token on a blockchain, and people pay you USD if they want it.  It is possible to have a blockchain without intrinsic value token at all, it's just crypto development took an easier route,
it's definitely easier with an in-built coin.
But it's sure possible to pay miners directly in USD, we just have to find a sleek way to do it.

So #1000assets campaign has officially started!
official website: http://1000assets.net
official twitter: http://twitter.com/1000assets
Official donation account: NXT-QFBR-43J5-TGVV-G9GRK

Besides crypto communities we're be targeting start-up and crowdfunding communities. Help us promote NXT AE and NXT in general.
There are very serious reasons to think that this is a turning point for crypto, the moment of general adoption of blockchain technology.
NXT has a very nice opportunity to become one of the major blockchains for decades to come. Let's do our best to make it happen.

Please make a transaction and public Key announcemen for your donation account

I like this initiative!

Great project / initiative, I also think that in a bear NXT market, especially we should have a booming asset exchange.

Perhaps we need more transparancy for the assets, and more reviews of established ones, that could boost trust and make more investors invest in the AE instead of sitting on the NXT.

1000assets.net - official landing!
starting a massive campaign now
help is more then welcome
If you want some tweaks at the website or can translate it into other languages please let us know.

1000assets.net - official

- shared here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345882.msg12624505#msg12624505

Team, plz upvote this articles on reddit )
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/3nul3v/crowdfunding_on_decentralized_platforms/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Crowdfunding/comments/3nukib/crowdfunding_on_decentralized_platforms/

https://www.reddit.com/r/crowdfundingprojects/comments/3numko/crowdfunding_on_decentralized_platforms/

https://www.reddit.com/r/startups/comments/3nupw9/crowdfunding_on_decentralized_platforms/

Thnx for your time ))

- done! Thank you so much!