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Title: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: coinomat on September 16, 2015, 01:34:08 pm
Probably we all agree that the most precious NXT asset is the Asset Exchange itself. It is what NXT does best, other crypto 2.0 platforms don't have what NXT has. Asset exchange is quite mature and tested, and I believe even in this bear market NXT and NXT asset exchange deserve much better.  To put it directly people are simply unaware of it. 99% of startups looking for funding have no idea about Asset Exchange. This is not the best time for crypto, but you still can get initial funding for your projects, I talk to many startups and they are really excited about the potential.

Success of NXT as a cryptocurrency platform hinges on success of NXT AE as a crowdfunding platform. More assets at AE will bring more interest to NXT in general, which will be reflected in NXT price.  New asset issuers will bring along new investors. More assets mean more profit opportunities.

Currently there's 593 issued assets. Let's make it to be 1000 till the end of 2015!

We announce a community project aimed at AE promotion in cryptocommunities and beyond.  It will be funded from cryptoasset.fund profits but everyone who wants to donate will have a chance to do so too.

What we plan to do -
- Website will be launched
- Bitcointalk and other bitcoin forums promotions
- Social media campaigns
- advertisement in crypto and mainstream media
- also we plan to launch a centralized crowdfunding platform based on AE in near future

NXT community has all the necessary tools to weed out scammers and endorse assets which can bring real value. There can be a lot of work for NXTinspect but it will be rewarded.

Special account for donations will be created, all promotions spends will be transparent.

Please share your ideas about ways we can promote AE better and create more action there.

Official donation account: NXT-QFBR-43J5-TGVV-G9GRK

1000assets.net (http://1000assets.net)
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: Abraxas 147 on September 16, 2015, 01:56:10 pm
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- also we plan to launch a centralized crowdfunding platform based on AE in near future

Do you know http://www.nxt-starter.com ?

Maybe you can contact Nxt Forum menber POPPP it's his project.



Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: coinomat on September 16, 2015, 02:11:52 pm
Thank you! I will. The idea is to unify community efforts in this.
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- also we plan to launch a centralized crowdfunding platform based on AE in near future

Do you know http://www.nxt-starter.com ?

Maybe you can contact Nxt Forum menber POPPP it's his project.
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: MrCluster87 on September 16, 2015, 03:12:00 pm
Nice move!! Count on us for PR
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: Audo Kryptowitz on September 16, 2015, 04:37:57 pm

"also we plan to launch a centralized crowdfunding platform based on AE in near future" <- I would like to hear more info about this one.

This one got me thinking: what is the problem with the way things are right now? I'm sure it is obvious, but we are missing flashy graphics (a simple webpage).

If there is a person looking for way to crowdfund, there is no simple place that explains NXT AE. The problem is that most people are lazy and they want it easy. They do not want to read what AE is, they want to see a couple of headlines and promotional images. They don't want to read what the project is about, but rather see an interesting image that makes them click it.

This is what people should see: https://www.indiegogo.com/ or https://www.kickstarter.com/

1. A simple headline that says it's a crowdfunding platform
2. Ongoing projects with pretty pictures
3. Since we have smart contracts, our adventage is to talk about money, investing and dividends.

There could be three categories: 1) funding projects, 2) ongoing projects, 3) finished projects
Highlight the fact that you can invest to all of them, the status doesn't matter
Finished projects could show their annual rate of returns with the current market price

AE is fundamentally so much better than the other crowdfunding sites :)

Great Idea overall!
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: abctc on September 16, 2015, 06:47:29 pm
Probably we all agree that the most precious NXT asset is the Asset Exchange itself. It is what NXT does best, other crypto 2.0 platforms don't have what NXT has.
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Let's make AE the go-to crowdfunding platform! This is real and doable.
+ 1440
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: coinomat on September 16, 2015, 06:58:41 pm
This is a cool suggestion
probably we need a quality one pager website, which explains what you can do with AE in layman's terms.
And it'll evolve in full fledged crowdfunding platform in future.

"also we plan to launch a centralized crowdfunding platform based on AE in near future" <- I would like to hear more info about this one.

This one got me thinking: what is the problem with the way things are right now? I'm sure it is obvious, but we are missing flashy graphics (a simple webpage).

If there is a person looking for way to crowdfund, there is no simple place that explains NXT AE. The problem is that most people are lazy and they want it easy. They do not want to read what AE is, they want to see a couple of headlines and promotional images. They don't want to read what the project is about, but rather see an interesting image that makes them click it.

This is what people should see: https://www.indiegogo.com/ or https://www.kickstarter.com/

1. A simple headline that says it's a crowdfunding platform
2. Ongoing projects with pretty pictures
3. Since we have smart contracts, our adventage is to talk about money, investing and dividends.

There could be three categories: 1) funding projects, 2) ongoing projects, 3) finished projects
Highlight the fact that you can invest to all of them, the status doesn't matter
Finished projects could show their annual rate of returns with the current market price

AE is fundamentally so much better than the other crowdfunding sites :)

Great Idea overall!
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: coinking on September 17, 2015, 05:40:00 am
This all sounds groovy to me! 8)
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: Peter2516 on September 17, 2015, 05:52:12 am
Isn't MS a better solution for crowdfunding? It has an option where if the goal isn't reached, the MS coin isn't created, and people get their NXT back.

The tricky thing, imo, isn't so much the launch of a campaign (by one person), but contributing to the campaign. You need many many (non-crypto) people to try the NXT client, buy NXT (via BTC?) and then buy the asset/MScoin.

I think it needs to be completely webbased, and the fiat -> NXT route should be easy. That's where most great ideas struggle... Nxtstarter, Freemarket, Melodius. You could ask people that tried crowdfunding via NXT for real world projects (like the Lyth and Voxelnauts games) what they'd like to see improved first.

Personally I think it's very difficult to carve out a niche in the crowdfunding market. There's too many competitors like Kickstarter etc. As a contributor I go for the platform that's easiest. I have no motivation to use a crypto platform at all.

I think it's better to find a niche where crypto has an absolute advantage for the end user, because the real world options are impossible or difficult. In that case I'm REALLY motivated to climb that first learning curve. So what's difficult or impossible? I think it's the 'illegal' applications, like online gambling, dark markets, filesharing.

One (or maybe the only) non-illegal niche I see for crypto (for the end-user) is micropayments. Paywalls for online newspapers where I don't need to buy a subscription or buy a prepaid account for several articles. I just pay a one time 50 nxt for an article I like. I don't know what happened to the Chicago Times experiment a year ago http://www.coindesk.com/micropayments-chicago-sun-times-paywall-live/
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: Audo Kryptowitz on September 17, 2015, 06:59:33 am
Isn't MS a better solution for crowdfunding? It has an option where if the goal isn't reached, the MS coin isn't created, and people get their NXT back.

Sounds good! I'm not aware about the technical things so much, I'm just thinking about the general user experiance. Ideally the user wouldn't have to know if the project is using the MS or just the normal asset system. The user would just see that "Project X has to be 100% funded to succeed" or "Project Y is an ongoing developement". Also, the user should see whatever hes support for the project is A) donation (like on the normal crowdfunding sites) or B) an investment (with possible future dividends), and probably also C) does he get equity

Of course when we talk about investing to startups and dividends, there are some regulatory risks. There is a reason why those projects are not allowed to give monetary benefits for supporting their projects :(

The tricky thing, imo, isn't so much the launch of a campaign (by one person), but contributing to the campaign. You need many many (non-crypto) people to try the NXT client, buy NXT (via BTC?) and then buy the asset/MScoin.

I think it needs to be completely webbased, and the fiat -> NXT route should be easy. That's where most great ideas struggle... Nxtstarter, Freemarket, Melodius. You could ask people that tried crowdfunding via NXT for real world projects (like the Lyth and Voxelnauts games) what they'd like to see improved first.

Would it be possible to build a simple webwallet that has CoinoUSD and NXT in it? The CoinoUSD could be transfered there through Coinomat. The user would just connect his bank/credit card to coinomat.com, then his easy-to-use webwallet could be funded with CoinoUSD. The user would not see that it is "CoinoUSD" but it would just show as "USD".

If that is possible, then the mainstream users would have a cryptowallet that looks more like PayPal account and they would have the power to keep their money in USD but still be able to purchase all of the cryptoassets.
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: barbierir on September 17, 2015, 07:28:06 am
Tosch110 is working on a crowdfunding plugin that uses the MS system but makes it usable, this video is from an early version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBsKVJYbitY
The last time I asked he said the plugin was under review from an external source and that he had not heard back from them
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: coinomat on September 17, 2015, 08:11:13 am
First MS - I must say I'm not a big fan of current MS system in NXT. It seems to be supplementary to AE,  and does not really have traction for now. I will be very glad if it will, but I think we have to focus on what  is proven to work well enough if we want to achieve some breakthrough with NXT acceptance as platform

As for other crowdfunding platforms - the main difference between kickstarter and NXT is you can cash out. You can't cash out at kickstarter. NXT is crowdfunding with exits. This is what should be highligted, as a project backer you can always say your share, this is very interesting for project supporters of course

For people looking for funding on the other hand NXT offers much more flexible platform than kickstarter. Basically you set your own rules here,  regarding the ICO timeframe terms etc. Also kickstarter is not for everything, some niche projects just receive no attention there, I remember several crypto related projects who failed miserably at kickstarter.
Isn't MS a better solution for crowdfunding? It has an option where if the goal isn't reached, the MS coin isn't created, and people get their NXT back.

The tricky thing, imo, isn't so much the launch of a campaign (by one person), but contributing to the campaign. You need many many (non-crypto) people to try the NXT client, buy NXT (via BTC?) and then buy the asset/MScoin.

I think it needs to be completely webbased, and the fiat -> NXT route should be easy. That's where most great ideas struggle... Nxtstarter, Freemarket, Melodius. You could ask people that tried crowdfunding via NXT for real world projects (like the Lyth and Voxelnauts games) what they'd like to see improved first.

Personally I think it's very difficult to carve out a niche in the crowdfunding market. There's too many competitors like Kickstarter etc. As a contributor I go for the platform that's easiest. I have no motivation to use a crypto platform at all.

I think it's better to find a niche where crypto has an absolute advantage for the end user, because the real world options are impossible or difficult. In that case I'm REALLY motivated to climb that first learning curve. So what's difficult or impossible? I think it's the 'illegal' applications, like online gambling, dark markets, filesharing.

One (or maybe the only) non-illegal niche I see for crypto (for the end-user) is micropayments. Paywalls for online newspapers where I don't need to buy a subscription or buy a prepaid account for several articles. I just pay a one time 50 nxt for an article I like. I don't know what happened to the Chicago Times experiment a year ago http://www.coindesk.com/micropayments-chicago-sun-times-paywall-live/
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: coinomat on September 17, 2015, 08:13:14 am
That would be very cool of course, but this is the area where you have to be careful with regulators. we'll be working on something similar.
Isn't MS a better solution for crowdfunding? It has an option where if the goal isn't reached, the MS coin isn't created, and people get their NXT back.

Sounds good! I'm not aware about the technical things so much, I'm just thinking about the general user experiance. Ideally the user wouldn't have to know if the project is using the MS or just the normal asset system. The user would just see that "Project X has to be 100% funded to succeed" or "Project Y is an ongoing developement". Also, the user should see whatever hes support for the project is A) donation (like on the normal crowdfunding sites) or B) an investment (with possible future dividends), and probably also C) does he get equity

Of course when we talk about investing to startups and dividends, there are some regulatory risks. There is a reason why those projects are not allowed to give monetary benefits for supporting their projects :(

The tricky thing, imo, isn't so much the launch of a campaign (by one person), but contributing to the campaign. You need many many (non-crypto) people to try the NXT client, buy NXT (via BTC?) and then buy the asset/MScoin.

I think it needs to be completely webbased, and the fiat -> NXT route should be easy. That's where most great ideas struggle... Nxtstarter, Freemarket, Melodius. You could ask people that tried crowdfunding via NXT for real world projects (like the Lyth and Voxelnauts games) what they'd like to see improved first.

Would it be possible to build a simple webwallet that has CoinoUSD and NXT in it? The CoinoUSD could be transfered there through Coinomat. The user would just connect his bank/credit card to coinomat.com, then his easy-to-use webwallet could be funded with CoinoUSD. The user would not see that it is "CoinoUSD" but it would just show as "USD".

If that is possible, then the mainstream users would have a cryptowallet that looks more like PayPal account and they would have the power to keep their money in USD but still be able to purchase all of the cryptoassets.
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: coinomat on September 17, 2015, 08:15:30 am
Tosch110 is working on a crowdfunding plugin that uses the MS system but makes it usable, this video is from an early version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBsKVJYbitY
The last time I asked he said the plugin was under review from an external source and that he had not heard back from them
That's great! I'll talk to him regarding this
But, as I mentioned before, I believe AE has all the tools
the only thing AE might lack is changing the number of issued assets, but you can do without it.
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: coinomat on September 17, 2015, 08:16:25 am
Will be building a promo website now, if you have any ideas pls share, here or in Supernet slack channel #cryptoasset_fund
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: xiahui135 on September 17, 2015, 03:32:18 pm
1. Can you use instantDex tech? This will make trade faster.
2. Can the info UI be seperated from the trade UI? Most of time, i want to read the info and check the price. I need not to load the trade data once I open the page. This can make it faster.

3. Can a third-party comment on an asset? So people can choose better asset, and abanden rubbish.
We can choose good assets to be a special list. The thirdparty do work like nasdaq.
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: coinomat on September 17, 2015, 08:02:35 pm
1. Can you use instantDex tech? This will make trade faster.
2. Can the info UI be seperated from the trade UI? Most of time, i want to read the info and check the price. I need not to load the trade data once I open the page. This can make it faster.

3. Can a third-party comment on an asset? So people can choose better asset, and abanden rubbish.
We can choose good assets to be a special list. The thirdparty do work like nasdaq.
Yes, we're going to integrate InstantDEX at coinomat!
The other suggestions are interesting too, probably we would need some rating system built in NXT platform
This would be a great progress no other coin has
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: xiahui135 on September 18, 2015, 03:32:14 pm
1. Can you use instantDex tech? This will make trade faster.
2. Can the info UI be seperated from the trade UI? Most of time, i want to read the info and check the price. I need not to load the trade data once I open the page. This can make it faster.

3. Can a third-party comment on an asset? So people can choose better asset, and abanden rubbish.
We can choose good assets to be a special list. The thirdparty do work like nasdaq.
Yes, we're going to integrate InstantDEX at coinomat!
The other suggestions are interesting too, probably we would need some rating system built in NXT platform
This would be a great progress no other coin has
the rating system need not to be decetralised, though it is better to be.
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: Tosch110 on September 18, 2015, 07:40:23 pm
1. Can you use instantDex tech? This will make trade faster.
2. Can the info UI be seperated from the trade UI? Most of time, i want to read the info and check the price. I need not to load the trade data once I open the page. This can make it faster.

3. Can a third-party comment on an asset? So people can choose better asset, and abanden rubbish.
We can choose good assets to be a special list. The thirdparty do work like nasdaq.
Yes, we're going to integrate InstantDEX at coinomat!
The other suggestions are interesting too, probably we would need some rating system built in NXT platform
This would be a great progress no other coin has
the rating system need not to be decetralised, though it is better to be.

A rating system which uses the Nxt Voting System is a good idea :)
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: coinomat on September 18, 2015, 08:14:24 pm
Do it :)
It would bring a whole new dimension to AE!
1. Can you use instantDex tech? This will make trade faster.
2. Can the info UI be seperated from the trade UI? Most of time, i want to read the info and check the price. I need not to load the trade data once I open the page. This can make it faster.

3. Can a third-party comment on an asset? So people can choose better asset, and abanden rubbish.
We can choose good assets to be a special list. The thirdparty do work like nasdaq.
Yes, we're going to integrate InstantDEX at coinomat!
The other suggestions are interesting too, probably we would need some rating system built in NXT platform
This would be a great progress no other coin has
the rating system need not to be decetralised, though it is better to be.

A rating system which uses the Nxt Voting System is a good idea :)
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: xiahui135 on September 19, 2015, 03:47:52 am
1. Can you use instantDex tech? This will make trade faster.
2. Can the info UI be seperated from the trade UI? Most of time, i want to read the info and check the price. I need not to load the trade data once I open the page. This can make it faster.

3. Can a third-party comment on an asset? So people can choose better asset, and abanden rubbish.
We can choose good assets to be a special list. The thirdparty do work like nasdaq.
Yes, we're going to integrate InstantDEX at coinomat!
The other suggestions are interesting too, probably we would need some rating system built in NXT platform
This would be a great progress no other coin has
the rating system need not to be decetralised, though it is better to be.

A rating system which uses the Nxt Voting System is a good idea :)
and we need to consider whether everyone can vote,
or a third-party certifacate some assets and list them somewhere(like NASDAQ)
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: coinomat on September 19, 2015, 07:23:04 am
Actually some tweak of the voting system could make a reputation system for NXT
this is very good idea, needs some deliberation as with any reputation system, though.
Not clear if weighting votes by account balance is a good idea here, for example
1. Can you use instantDex tech? This will make trade faster.
2. Can the info UI be seperated from the trade UI? Most of time, i want to read the info and check the price. I need not to load the trade data once I open the page. This can make it faster.

3. Can a third-party comment on an asset? So people can choose better asset, and abanden rubbish.
We can choose good assets to be a special list. The thirdparty do work like nasdaq.
Yes, we're going to integrate InstantDEX at coinomat!
The other suggestions are interesting too, probably we would need some rating system built in NXT platform
This would be a great progress no other coin has
the rating system need not to be decetralised, though it is better to be.

A rating system which uses the Nxt Voting System is a good idea :)
and we need to consider whether everyone can vote,
or a third-party certifacate some assets and list them somewhere(like NASDAQ)
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: coinomat on September 23, 2015, 08:43:43 am
starting from Monday next week, landing page will be online over the weekend so if someone has some ideas they will be taken into account. Contact me if you have any ideas! here or on slack, #cryptoasset_fund channel
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: coinomat on September 28, 2015, 02:39:52 pm
Starting this week!
let's discuss the landing page http://1000assets.net/
what would you like to see there, which links, what services should be recommended to aspiring NXT asset issuers?
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: Ludom on September 28, 2015, 04:45:29 pm

Since a long time, I have an idea of a Game who use Nxt tools (and specifically the asset exchange). The game is a sort of "anonymous and online" LARP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_action_role-playing_game)

I have the skills and the tools to create flexible and multi-language scenarios. It will be an investigation on the Nxt platform and online roleplay  (message on Nxt, forum and chat). It will be also a trading and economy game.

The main goal is to have some fun during a night. But it's also a good experience to discover the Nxt features.

It could be a tool for the Asset Exchange promotion.
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: coinomat on September 28, 2015, 07:43:53 pm

Since a long time, I have an idea of a Game who use Nxt tools (and specifically the asset exchange). The game is a sort of "anonymous and online" LARP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_action_role-playing_game)

I have the skills and the tools to create flexible and multi-language scenarios. It will be an investigation on the Nxt platform and online roleplay  (message on Nxt, forum and chat). It will be also a trading and economy game.

The main goal is to have some fun during a night. But it's also a good experience to discover the Nxt features.

It could be a tool for the Asset Exchange promotion.
Cool stuff, do you have some specification?
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: Ludom on September 28, 2015, 08:45:50 pm
What I need is :

- Time, I'm booked for other LARP writing until november. Writing LARP and RPG is my daily job. I think the game will be better with the account control and the shuffling.

- I need a business plan and certainly funding. I can create a business plan who use the feature of Nxt : asset exchange, monetary system and market place.
For the funding, I need investors, presale of games and/or donations or sponsoring (I can integrate some business in the scenario).
I can integrate some real Nxt "characters" : GEFLU, emule, James, BCNext or other peoples.
We can begin with a little budget : a little LARP for 10 characters/players. I think, it's 1 week of writing if every thing is ready: funding, tools and game content.

- I need some technical assistance of devs and servers: I need a Nxt clone easy to create. Ideally it could be a new "test net" for every games. I need a bot or a tool who create automatically the "situation of the beginning":
1 The assets and MScoins used in the game.
2 Encrypted messages (before the game)
3 The players accounts and every things needed
In an ideal situation, a UI with multiple accounts could be great for the animator who have to play "some specials characters" and launch some special events from different accounts : pump, dump or other funny events.

- I need a "fake Nxt forum" and a IRC chat for the players. I think, it's an easy part.

- In November I'll have a great LARP gestion tool from an other LARP project. It can be used to make easy the creation/translation management. It can be use to generate the "initial settings" of the game that should be created on the "test net".

- I need translators and editors. Because I'll write it in French.

What you should know :
- About the price, it shoud be 500 € for a game (for 10 persons) for ~5 hours. It's not cheap but it's comparable with "Escape the room" games (cheaper but only 1 hour game) or laser game. And it's a more immersive game, because you play a character with full background and specific goals.
- The french speaking version can be promoted by my own business "Plaisir d'histoire" in the real life world. Nothing to do with the crypto/Nxt communities.
- The English (and other languages) can be commercialised by other gaming company...
- If I'm fully paid for my work, I'm open with a opensource game concept.

If some people are interested, I can create a business plan of the project.
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: rubenbc on September 28, 2015, 08:57:25 pm
What I need is :

- Time, I'm booked for other LARP writing until november. Writing LARP and RPG is my daily job. I think the game will be better with the account control and the shuffling.

- I need a business plan and certainly funding. I can create a business plan who use the feature of Nxt : asset exchange, monetary system and market place.
For the funding, I need investors, presale of games and/or donations or sponsoring (I can integrate some business in the scenario).
I can integrate some real Nxt "characters" : GEFLU, emule, James, BCNext or other peoples.
We can begin with a little budget : a little LARP for 10 characters/players. I think, it's 1 week of writing if every thing is ready: funding, tools and game content.

- I need some technical assistance of devs and servers: I need a Nxt clone easy to create. Ideally it could be a new "test net" for every games. I need a bot or a tool who create automatically the "situation of the beginning":
1 The assets and MScoins used in the game.
2 Encrypted messages (before the game)
3 The players accounts and every things needed
In an ideal situation, a UI with multiple accounts could be great for the animator who have to play "some specials characters" and launch some special events from different accounts : pump, dump or other funny events.

- I need a "fake Nxt forum" and a IRC chat for the players. I think, it's an easy part.

- In November I'll have a great LARP gestion tool from an other LARP project. It can be used to make easy the creation/translation management. It can be use to generate the "initial settings" of the game that should be created on the "test net".

- I need translators and editors. Because I'll write it in French.

What you should know :
- About the price, it shoud be 500 € for a game (for 10 persons) for ~5 hours. It's not cheap but it's comparable with "Escape the room" games (cheaper but only 1 hour game) or laser game. And it's a more immersive game, because you play a character with full background and specific goals.
- The french speaking version can be promoted by my own business "Plaisir d'histoire" in the real life world. Nothing to do with the crypto/Nxt communities.
- The English (and other languages) can be commercialised by other gaming company...
- If I'm fully paid for my work, I'm open with a opensource game concept.

If some people are interested, I can create a business plan of the project.
Good explanation!! I will contribute with 1btc. I known It's a shit, but I haven't liquidity

Enviado desde mi P5200 mediante Tapatalk

Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: coinomat on September 28, 2015, 09:34:11 pm
Sounds awesome, please prepare a business plan, I'll invest.
What I need is :

- Time, I'm booked for other LARP writing until november. Writing LARP and RPG is my daily job. I think the game will be better with the account control and the shuffling.

- I need a business plan and certainly funding. I can create a business plan who use the feature of Nxt : asset exchange, monetary system and market place.
For the funding, I need investors, presale of games and/or donations or sponsoring (I can integrate some business in the scenario).
I can integrate some real Nxt "characters" : GEFLU, emule, James, BCNext or other peoples.
We can begin with a little budget : a little LARP for 10 characters/players. I think, it's 1 week of writing if every thing is ready: funding, tools and game content.

- I need some technical assistance of devs and servers: I need a Nxt clone easy to create. Ideally it could be a new "test net" for every games. I need a bot or a tool who create automatically the "situation of the beginning":
1 The assets and MScoins used in the game.
2 Encrypted messages (before the game)
3 The players accounts and every things needed
In an ideal situation, a UI with multiple accounts could be great for the animator who have to play "some specials characters" and launch some special events from different accounts : pump, dump or other funny events.

- I need a "fake Nxt forum" and a IRC chat for the players. I think, it's an easy part.

- In November I'll have a great LARP gestion tool from an other LARP project. It can be used to make easy the creation/translation management. It can be use to generate the "initial settings" of the game that should be created on the "test net".

- I need translators and editors. Because I'll write it in French.

What you should know :
- About the price, it shoud be 500 € for a game (for 10 persons) for ~5 hours. It's not cheap but it's comparable with "Escape the room" games (cheaper but only 1 hour game) or laser game. And it's a more immersive game, because you play a character with full background and specific goals.
- The french speaking version can be promoted by my own business "Plaisir d'histoire" in the real life world. Nothing to do with the crypto/Nxt communities.
- The English (and other languages) can be commercialised by other gaming company...
- If I'm fully paid for my work, I'm open with a opensource game concept.

If some people are interested, I can create a business plan of the project.
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: Ludom on September 29, 2015, 06:56:17 am
I have a little budget projection: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QfrE1UaqCh-j-20UyJhYof7G_3_bKZe8NqLC_r3l0wg/edit#gid=0

We need:
- 500k NXT sponsorship
- 500k NXT donation
- 500k NXT external investment

The profitability of investment  begins at 100 games. It's a lot !!!

This budget is a basis. For sure we can make it better according to the opportunities.
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: Cassius on September 29, 2015, 09:35:39 am
This is a great overall initiative, and I love the idea of Ludom's game. I've wanted to do something like this on top of Nxt for a long time, Kingdom of Loathing style or similar :) Though I think EUR 500 is a lot - do you have a sense of the market?

Otherwise, asset issuers please think about raising funds in BTC and fiat, and finding ways to trade your asset in those currencies too. I think this will be quite important to the long-term health of Nxt.
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: Ludom on September 29, 2015, 06:33:56 pm
This is a great overall initiative, and I love the idea of Ludom's game. I've wanted to do something like this on top of Nxt for a long time, Kingdom of Loathing style or similar :) Though I think EUR 500 is a lot - do you have a sense of the market?

Yes, I have a sense of the market. Creation and animation of such a game is my daily job. It's one of the principal task of Plaisir d'histoire (and my business is living right now a big development).
I don't give this price from nowhere, it corresponds to my normal price list. But you know, I'm Swiss and I live in one of the most expensive country in the world.
So... yes I can sold a good game for 500 € in Switzerland: companies, curious people, education programs...

But this price depend of my price for preparation of a game + an half day animation of a game = 300 €. It's look like very well paid but it's not so much if you have to : pay taxes and social fees. Because I'm a professional and I don't work in black.

But should I be the animator? Do you want to drive the games in English cheaper? No problem for me. The price is :
- Preparation and animation costs : 300
- Royalties to remunerate the investors (assets holders) : 150
- Royalties for the use of a "LARP program" : 50

If we find a skilled person who are ready to work for less, it's great. Some persons can be happy if they win 100 € for an half day of work (In Switzerland, it's impossible to live with that, but in other country, for sure yes).
I can train some other animators: in English, French, German and other languages.

If we find more advertisers and sponsoring, we need less investment and we can lower the Royalties.
If we lower the cost of the project, it's the same.

And if we find the funds for all the project, we can make it open source and free on the internet.

The budget is "an exemple" of the project if I have to do it alone (with my enterprise "Plaisir d'histoire"), without help. Only donations and investments.
It's the "version 0" of the project. Now we have to make it better, cheaper and more profitable.
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: coinomat on September 29, 2015, 07:05:48 pm
This is a great overall initiative, and I love the idea of Ludom's game. I've wanted to do something like this on top of Nxt for a long time, Kingdom of Loathing style or similar :) Though I think EUR 500 is a lot - do you have a sense of the market?

Otherwise, asset issuers please think about raising funds in BTC and fiat, and finding ways to trade your asset in those currencies too. I think this will be quite important to the long-term health of Nxt.
I'm thinking about completely currency-agnostic blockchain,  you just issue a token on it and it can be traded for whatever you want afterwards.
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: Cassius on September 30, 2015, 08:41:24 am
This is a great overall initiative, and I love the idea of Ludom's game. I've wanted to do something like this on top of Nxt for a long time, Kingdom of Loathing style or similar :) Though I think EUR 500 is a lot - do you have a sense of the market?

Otherwise, asset issuers please think about raising funds in BTC and fiat, and finding ways to trade your asset in those currencies too. I think this will be quite important to the long-term health of Nxt.
I'm thinking about completely currency-agnostic blockchain,  you just issue a token on it and it can be traded for whatever you want afterwards.

You mean using Nxt as a currency-agnostic blockchain?
I'm seeing Nxt more and more as an administrative platform that pays out in NXT to assetholders, but with issuers collecting funds from elsewhere. (Generally they just get sold for startup costs anyway)

@ludom I'll take your word for it. It's a cool project and I'm looking forward to seeing where it goes.
Do you have examples of the type of game you'd make?
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: coinomat on September 30, 2015, 01:39:37 pm
This is a great overall initiative, and I love the idea of Ludom's game. I've wanted to do something like this on top of Nxt for a long time, Kingdom of Loathing style or similar :) Though I think EUR 500 is a lot - do you have a sense of the market?

Otherwise, asset issuers please think about raising funds in BTC and fiat, and finding ways to trade your asset in those currencies too. I think this will be quite important to the long-term health of Nxt.
I'm thinking about completely currency-agnostic blockchain,  you just issue a token on it and it can be traded for whatever you want afterwards.

You mean using Nxt as a currency-agnostic blockchain?
I'm seeing Nxt more and more as an administrative platform that pays out in NXT to assetholders, but with issuers collecting funds from elsewhere. (Generally they just get sold for startup costs anyway)

@ludom I'll take your word for it. It's a cool project and I'm looking forward to seeing where it goes.
Do you have examples of the type of game you'd make?
Would be cool to take "currency" out of cryptocurrency completely. You just issue a token on a blockchain, and people pay you USD if they want it.  It is possible to have a blockchain without intrinsic value token at all, it's just crypto development took an easier route,
it's definitely easier with an in-built coin.
But it's sure possible to pay miners directly in USD, we just have to find a sleek way to do it.
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: coinomat on September 30, 2015, 02:03:27 pm
So #1000assets campaign has officially started!
official website: http://1000assets.net
official twitter: http://twitter.com/1000assets
Official donation account: NXT-QFBR-43J5-TGVV-G9GRK

Besides crypto communities we're be targeting start-up and crowdfunding communities. Help us promote NXT AE and NXT in general.
There are very serious reasons to think that this is a turning point for crypto, the moment of general adoption of blockchain technology.
NXT has a very nice opportunity to become one of the major blockchains for decades to come. Let's do our best to make it happen.
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: Tosch110 on September 30, 2015, 02:09:52 pm
So #1000assets campaign has officially started!
official website: http://1000assets.net
official twitter: http://twitter.com/1000assets
Official donation account: NXT-QFBR-43J5-TGVV-G9GRK

Besides crypto communities we're be targeting start-up and crowdfunding communities. Help us promote NXT AE and NXT in general.
There are very serious reasons to think that this is a turning point for crypto, the moment of general adoption of blockchain technology.
NXT has a very nice opportunity to become one of the major blockchains for decades to come. Let's do our best to make it happen.

Please make a transaction and public Key announcemen for your donation account ;)

I like this initiative!
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: coinomat on September 30, 2015, 02:36:51 pm
So #1000assets campaign has officially started!
official website: http://1000assets.net
official twitter: http://twitter.com/1000assets
Official donation account: NXT-QFBR-43J5-TGVV-G9GRK

Besides crypto communities we're be targeting start-up and crowdfunding communities. Help us promote NXT AE and NXT in general.
There are very serious reasons to think that this is a turning point for crypto, the moment of general adoption of blockchain technology.
NXT has a very nice opportunity to become one of the major blockchains for decades to come. Let's do our best to make it happen.


Please make a transaction and public Key announcemen for your donation account ;)

I like this initiative!
Done! registered an alias
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: SafeFund on October 01, 2015, 03:46:51 am
Great project / initiative, I also think that in a bear NXT market, especially we should have a booming asset exchange.

Perhaps we need more transparancy for the assets, and more reviews of established ones, that could boost trust and make more investors invest in the AE instead of sitting on the NXT.
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: Cassius on October 01, 2015, 08:10:28 am
I like the idea of more asset reviews and better transparency.

Here's why I think assets need to be funded by and traded in BTC and fiat, rather than NXT alone: http://nxter.org/nxt-and-the-great-depression-avoiding-the-crunch/
Basically, using NXT to fund and trade assets ties it up and risks choking liquidity, holding back a recovery.
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: coinomat on October 07, 2015, 12:31:21 pm
1000assets.net - official landing!
starting a massive campaign now
help is more then welcome
If you want some tweaks at the website or can translate it into other languages please let us know.
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: yassin54 on October 07, 2015, 12:43:53 pm
Tweeted! https://twitter.com/MagicNxt/status/651739492546662400  ;)
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: abctc on October 07, 2015, 12:53:45 pm
1000assets.net - official
- shared here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=345882.msg12624505#msg12624505
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: bezbezbez on October 07, 2015, 03:59:38 pm
Team, plz upvote this articles on reddit )
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/3nul3v/crowdfunding_on_decentralized_platforms/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Crowdfunding/comments/3nukib/crowdfunding_on_decentralized_platforms/

https://www.reddit.com/r/crowdfundingprojects/comments/3numko/crowdfunding_on_decentralized_platforms/

https://www.reddit.com/r/startups/comments/3nupw9/crowdfunding_on_decentralized_platforms/

Thnx for your time ))
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: abctc on October 07, 2015, 05:45:29 pm
Team, plz upvote this articles on reddit )
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/3nul3v/crowdfunding_on_decentralized_platforms/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Crowdfunding/comments/3nukib/crowdfunding_on_decentralized_platforms/

https://www.reddit.com/r/crowdfundingprojects/comments/3numko/crowdfunding_on_decentralized_platforms/

https://www.reddit.com/r/startups/comments/3nupw9/crowdfunding_on_decentralized_platforms/

Thnx for your time ))
- done! Thank you so much!
Title: Re: Asset Exchange promotion - #1000assets
Post by: coinomat on October 15, 2015, 08:57:38 am
Current developments:
active twitter: https://twitter.com/1000assets
tons of crowdfunding sites contacted (profile at crowdsourcing.org http://www.crowdsourcing.org/site/1000assetsnet/1000assetsnet/51491)
two articles are published:
https://www.zapchain.com/a/irq4DAsP6v
http://forklog.net/how-to-launch-your-own-crowdfunding-campaign-with-nxt/
really a lot of other stuff is in the works now, including talks with major crowdfunding resources and payment providers.
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