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5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« on: June 28, 2016, 12:12:17 pm »


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Ardor tokens earned from balance of NXT in Forging Bootstrapper account at block 1,000,000 will continue to be given out as forging rewards when Ardor blockchain is launched

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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2016, 12:20:06 pm »

Great initiative,  this was much needed.  I was about to order a solar pack with a battery from Amazon: SunnyBAG® PowerTAB and run my RPi. We need to re-show what potential NXT has and how green it is.
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2016, 12:20:25 pm »

I very much appreciate such an initiative! :)

Thank you for caring for the Nxt infrastructure.

Because I wanted to look at the sender Account and had to copy the address by hand from your image I post the mynxt link here:

https://www.mynxt.info/account/18337650001428593901

Good luck with your goal, I will support it!

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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2016, 12:28:47 pm »

Great idea!

I'm in, starting to forge and spread the word!
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2016, 12:29:24 pm »

Much wow!,  big sharky dude.

That's a brilliant initiative. Much thanks.
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2016, 12:35:21 pm »

Let's fix numbers:

Active stake   371'319'660 NXT

Forgers 283

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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2016, 12:35:36 pm »

I want to forge but I need help to launch a sustainable node with a raspberry pi.

Please help the non techies to do that.
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2016, 12:46:02 pm »

Thnx alot Megalodon!

You are helping "the way to success" really good!
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2016, 01:11:25 pm »

Wow, just WOW!  :o
A big applause to Megalodon!

I want to forge but I need help to launch a sustainable node with a raspberry pi.

Please help the non techies to do that.
Here is a guide on how to do it:
https://nxtportal.org/blog/nxt-in-a-box-rpi2.html
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2016, 01:20:58 pm »

Wow, just WOW!  :o
A big applause to Megalodon!

I want to forge but I need help to launch a sustainable node with a raspberry pi.

Please help the non techies to do that.
Here is a guide on how to do it:
https://nxtportal.org/blog/nxt-in-a-box-rpi2.html

Thanks for the link, I didn't know this guide!
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2016, 01:22:02 pm »

The Nxt community never stops to amaze me. Probably a reason why I love it so much  :) Thank you so much!
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2016, 01:26:18 pm »

Just great news,thank you!

I already run a hallmark forging vps node,the problem is my vps keep shutdown after update to 1.9.1e,but 1.8.3 is ok,I have no idea why.
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2016, 01:26:57 pm »

Forging started successfully  8)
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2016, 01:34:33 pm »

Wow, just WOW!  :o
A big applause to Megalodon!

I want to forge but I need help to launch a sustainable node with a raspberry pi.

Please help the non techies to do that.
Here is a guide on how to do it:
https://nxtportal.org/blog/nxt-in-a-box-rpi2.html

Still to complex for my. A year ago I had 10 hallmarked nodes running on Digitalocean managed by a forum member. That I liked, I only had to pay the servers. But in that days I returned cash with NSC assets. I would like to run hallmarked nodes again (felled like mining with NSC).
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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2016, 01:44:30 pm »

am new here to forgive the noob questions.
To forge, I suppose all I need is a laptop that is connected to the internet 24/7 running the client? Can I take it offline at times?
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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2016, 01:57:18 pm »

am new here to forgive the noob questions.
To forge, I suppose all I need is a laptop that is connected to the internet 24/7 running the client? Can I take it offline at times?

You need a laptop and NXT client synced with the blockchain.
You can take it offline and again online when you want to re-start forging.
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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2016, 01:57:19 pm »

am new here to forgive the noob questions.
To forge, I suppose all I need is a laptop that is connected to the internet 24/7 running the client? Can I take it offline at times?
You do it of course with laptop. I would tho recommend you to run it on raspberry pi 2 due to extremely low power consumption. If you go offline you can't Forge until the dB is actualized.
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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2016, 02:01:46 pm »

I'm forging to a pool right now and that cannot be cancelled  :'(
Do I qualify?
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« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2016, 02:05:13 pm »

Do we have a 1-click MAC install (as we used to?)
Can we set up a second password?

I have some stake to throw at this or a safe/known pool (suggestions?)...
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« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2016, 02:23:31 pm »

not much of a techie or linux guy, more of a windows kind of guy. Can I run windows 10 IoT on the raspberry pi, and run the nxt forging software?
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« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2016, 02:46:03 pm »

not much of a techie or linux guy, more of a windows kind of guy. Can I run windows 10 IoT on the raspberry pi, and run the nxt forging software?
I don't think anyone has ever tried that before.
However the Oracle Java does not support Windows 10 IoT, but I read that Zulu Embedded is a build of OpenJDK which supposedly works on Windows 10 IoT.

If that is enough to get NXT up and running? I have no idea :)
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« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2016, 02:48:38 pm »

Hi Guys I want to participate and earn some tokens.

I'm kind of an NXT newb, some help would be appreciated.

I have 10k NXT and a web wallet account setup.

To participate in this initiative do I need to forge to a specific address?
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« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2016, 02:49:00 pm »

not much of a techie or linux guy, more of a windows kind of guy. Can I run windows 10 IoT on the raspberry pi, and run the nxt forging software?
I can't call myself Linux guy at all mate, but this guide is really copy/paste: https://nxtportal.org/blog/nxt-in-a-box-rpi2.html
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« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2016, 03:10:03 pm »

not much of a techie or linux guy, more of a windows kind of guy. Can I run windows 10 IoT on the raspberry pi, and run the nxt forging software?

which ever OS you run on raspberry pi, don't sync the blockchain from scratch, raspberry pi is very slow to sync from scratch. Here is the shortcut to downloading blockchain quickly.

do i have to download anything to forge?

You need to have the NXT client downloaded.
https://nxtforum.org/nrs-releases/nrs-v1-8-3/
And have the blockchain synced. Syncing takes a long time because it validates all transactions from over 2 years.

Shortcut instructions to downloading the blockchain quickly.
Stop NXT client, go to http://peerexplorer.com/peerexplorer-api, they have a blockchain zip file url on that page, download it, current url is this but it changes so look it up on that page: https://www.dropbox.com/s/aaqvwa5kjzup1yp/nxt_db_peerexplorer.zip?dl=1
extract to your NXT folder and you're ready.
If you use Windows, the location of the blockchain should be, this is where you extract the zip file:
C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\NXT\nxt_db

For linux the blockchain location usually is /home/user/nxt/nxt_db

Start NXT client, log in with your pass phrase and it will be forging. There will be a green forging indicator.
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« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2016, 03:33:18 pm »

Why not put up buy support for NSC? It was a great idea that lost support for some reason.
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« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2016, 04:48:32 pm »

Why not put up buy support for NSC? It was a great idea that lost support for some reason.
No, it is not: https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=9828.msg195541#msg195541
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« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2016, 08:39:55 pm »

The Nxt community never stops to amaze me.

I second this!
Raspberry Pi ordered... always wanted to do it, and this is the kick I needed.
Thanks Megalodon!
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« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2016, 09:19:17 pm »

Raspi ordered here too
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« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2016, 09:27:49 pm »

Already have an rpi2 running since a year or so back, but behind a firewall.
I will open up the needed port(s) once I get home, to make it more available.
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« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2016, 09:35:02 pm »

I think if the software can be auto-started when computer is boot.

And probably a 'remember my password' option.

We can get a lots of nodes. ;)
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« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2016, 04:35:43 am »

How does one run a hallmark node?  I am constantly forging on two computers. Is this not enough?
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« Reply #33 on: June 29, 2016, 04:41:26 am »

How does one run a hallmark node?  I am constantly forging on two computers. Is this not enough?

https://nxtwiki.org/wiki/How-To:CreateHallmark
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« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2016, 05:42:42 am »

Thanks
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« Reply #35 on: June 29, 2016, 06:48:23 am »

not much of a techie or linux guy, more of a windows kind of guy. Can I run windows 10 IoT on the raspberry pi, and run the nxt forging software?

which ever OS you run on raspberry pi, don't sync the blockchain from scratch, raspberry pi is very slow to sync from scratch. Here is the shortcut to downloading blockchain quickly.

do i have to download anything to forge?

You need to have the NXT client downloaded.
https://nxtforum.org/nrs-releases/nrs-v1-8-3/
And have the blockchain synced. Syncing takes a long time because it validates all transactions from over 2 years.

Shortcut instructions to downloading the blockchain quickly.
Stop NXT client, go to http://peerexplorer.com/peerexplorer-api, they have a blockchain zip file url on that page, download it, current url is this but it changes so look it up on that page: https://www.dropbox.com/s/aaqvwa5kjzup1yp/nxt_db_peerexplorer.zip?dl=1
extract to your NXT folder and you're ready.
If you use Windows, the location of the blockchain should be, this is where you extract the zip file:
C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\NXT\nxt_db

For linux the blockchain location usually is /home/user/nxt/nxt_db

Start NXT client, log in with your pass phrase and it will be forging. There will be a green forging indicator.

Yes, it may take you over a week if you try to download the blockchain from scratch using your Raspi.
One alternative is the one stated by Lurker10, download it from peerexplorer.com
Another alternative (more decentralized) would be downloading the blockchain from scratch using your PC/MAC in the usual way, and then copy the nxt_db folder to the Raspi.
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« Reply #36 on: June 29, 2016, 06:48:51 am »

One question, will forging work over CG-NAT?

It says it is on my client, but how can i verify this?
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« Reply #37 on: June 29, 2016, 07:57:06 am »

wow.
Great ...
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« Reply #38 on: June 29, 2016, 08:35:57 am »

Another alternative (more decentralized) would be downloading the blockchain from scratch using your PC/MAC in the usual way, and then copy the nxt_db folder to the Raspi.
This is what I do.
On my computer downloading the blockchain usually don't take more than 3-5 hours, and then I just copy it to the rpi.
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« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2016, 09:51:41 am »

On my computer downloading the blockchain usually don't take more than 3-5 hours

This is from Genesis block? May I ask what hardware you use, HDD/SSD, CPU?
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« Reply #40 on: June 30, 2016, 04:13:20 am »

How about using the cloud - so an online-server version of the node? I think it's called VPS.
Could one host a node on free offers like this: https://www.openshift.com/pricing/plan-comparison.html
Or is 1GB storage not enough?
There is also the Amazon offer: https://aws.amazon.com/vpc/
Anyone using this? Is the allowed traffic enough - and how expensive is it to run this.

There seems to be a script for this kinda thing: https://github.com/nxt-ext/nxt-kit
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« Reply #41 on: June 30, 2016, 08:59:12 am »

so better forge alone (about 100K NXT) or lease the account to NXTCrypto forging pool?
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« Reply #42 on: June 30, 2016, 09:12:15 am »

so better forge alone (about 100K NXT) or lease the account to NXTCrypto forging pool?
If you can forge alone is better for ecosystem. one more node :)

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« Reply #43 on: June 30, 2016, 09:56:21 am »

so better forge alone (about 100K NXT) or lease the account to NXTCrypto forging pool?
If you can forge alone is better for ecosystem. one more node :)
Less centralization. That's why I forge on my own and not with a pool. We have been bashing Bitcoin for having only a few big pools which at some points hold almost 51% power. So we should do what we do best: decentralize  ;D
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« Reply #44 on: June 30, 2016, 10:37:25 am »

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« Reply #45 on: June 30, 2016, 12:58:55 pm »

If I have a dinamic IP, assigned by the provider, i think hallmark is not possible. Right?
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« Reply #46 on: June 30, 2016, 01:38:33 pm »

If I have a dinamic IP, assigned by the provider, i think hallmark is not possible. Right?

In that case you have to use a free DDns service like noip.com , duckdns.org ...
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« Reply #47 on: June 30, 2016, 04:02:14 pm »

If I have a dinamic IP, assigned by the provider, i think hallmark is not possible. Right?

In that case you have to use a free DDns service like noip.com , duckdns.org ...
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« Reply #48 on: June 30, 2016, 09:49:22 pm »

If I have a dinamic IP, assigned by the provider, i think hallmark is not possible. Right?

In that case you have to use a free DDns service like noip.com , duckdns.org ...
I am behind double NAT, nothing helps.
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« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2016, 01:31:09 pm »

Great initiative megalodon, it will surely help to increase the forging power of the NXT network.
However, I don't understand how you intend to convince users to setup more nodes ?
Just sending random transaction fees would benefit the large stake holders who forge, but how do we incentivize small stake holders to run their own node ?

Did you consider to buy some NSC assets https://nxtforum.org/assets-board/(ann)-nxt-security-coin-(nsc)-get-paid-for-supporting-the-nxt-network!/msg64183/#msg64183 ?

Perhaps distribute 2.5M as random transaction fees to incentivize forgers and use the other 2.5M to buy NSC assets to compensate people for running a forging node ?
This is assuming that someone is still tracking the NSC asset or can restart this initiative.
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« Reply #50 on: July 03, 2016, 02:53:13 pm »

... Did you consider to buy some NSC assets ...
This is assuming that someone is still tracking the NSC asset or can restart this initiative.
- NSC asset discontinued.
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #51 on: July 03, 2016, 09:02:17 pm »

If one goal is to increase the number of Nxt nodes, maybe sending the planned many random transactions only to forging account with, let say, a maximum of 1M NXT. In that way it will force bigger holder to create more Nxt nodes (to split their holding) and only small to medium forging account would benefit.

I think this method of rewarding would promote the creation of new forging nodes.
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« Reply #52 on: July 03, 2016, 09:09:39 pm »

Hmm...

We already have a minimum forging balance which is 1000.

So maybe we can set a maximum like 10M or 1M?
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« Reply #53 on: July 03, 2016, 09:11:12 pm »

yes about 1 million maximum is what im talking about, not 1k  :) .
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« Reply #54 on: July 03, 2016, 09:26:32 pm »

yes about 1 million maximum is what im talking about, not 1k  :).

Sounds very good. So the 50M whale must setup 50 nodes to get his balance fully on forging.

But he can do that on 1 node with 50 accounts open. :(

But at least we made the distribution looks better. :)

And I feel there maybe some security issue when we do this. We need devs to answer that. :P
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« Reply #55 on: July 03, 2016, 09:31:21 pm »

Note however that forging balance maximum should not be impose because it may reduce the whole system security as the big holder may not be aware and may don't split their forging power to many nodes.

I am proposing to modify megalodon plan (not the Nxt system consensus) to limit his special limiting time forging reward only to acount with, let say 1M in NXT holding or less.
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« Reply #56 on: July 03, 2016, 09:37:09 pm »

Note however that forging balance maximum should not be impose because it may reduce the whole system security as the big holder may not be aware and may don't split their forging power to many nodes.

I am proposing to modify megalodon plan (not the Nxt system consensus) to limit his special limiting time forging reward only to acount with, let say 1M in NXT holding.

Agreed. Using megalodon plan to test this is very wise and almost no hurt.  ::)
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« Reply #57 on: July 04, 2016, 04:48:53 am »

If one goal is to increase the number of Nxt nodes, maybe sending the planned many random transactions only to forging account with, let say, a maximum of 1M NXT. In that way it will force bigger holder to create more Nxt nodes (to split their holding) and only small to medium forging account would benefit.

I think this method of rewarding would promote the creation of new forging nodes.

This won't force users to create more nodes since you can forge with multiple accounts on the same node.
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« Reply #58 on: July 04, 2016, 05:46:25 am »

Is there any reward running hallmark node?
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« Reply #60 on: July 04, 2016, 07:06:20 am »

Hello World  :D

If only 10% of this fund was invested in the development of what is requiered to implement NXT in the OpenSimulator based virtual worlds... NXT will never die because it will be used by the metaverse / Hypergrid users / grids...
this is the list of the active grids (servers / OpenSim hypergrid nodes)
http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/statistics/active-grids/

the list above is just a list based on the known grids... and as you see they are a total of 278 potential new NXT nodes and forgers

as daily active users, you can get an estimation by filtring the data here:
http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/statistics/

I don't even know how many times i have said it since my first day with NXT... implementing the NXT in a Virtual Reality platform is a sure future for NXT.
https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=10328.0
https://nxtforum.org/nxt-projects/(nxt3d)-the-nxt-community-3d-virtual-world/
the OpenSimulator as project and the virtual worlds based on it are the best choice to start with...
i hope the new marketers in the NXT team will understand what i am talking about and help me to light your way...

NOTE!: i don't ask you to give the money to me or to my project https://nxt3d.net/ !!! (even if needed for the promotion and some 3D elements/Licences purchases)...

just place 500k NXT in an account under your controle, name it " OpenSimulator Dedicated Devlopement Fund" and let me promote it in the metaverse circles... the interested guys and ladies will contact you via the wallet by sending a message to the fund account or post here in the forum (experienced fresh new users ;D) and i will show them what is requiered... i will write a dedicated post and documentations if you accept to help on this

Thank you and @++
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« Reply #61 on: July 04, 2016, 12:18:19 pm »

However, I don't understand how you intend to convince users to setup more nodes ?Just sending random transaction fees would benefit the large stake holders who forge, but how do we incentivize small stake holders to run their own node ?

This campaign will be running over a very long period of time starting from snapshot all the way till after Ardor blockchain has been launched. To participate in the "forging fee lottery", small to medium stake holders will be motivated to set up a dedicated node (VPS or Pi or Odroid) rather than running it off & on using their PCs. Very small stake holders my just lease to a pool.


Did you consider to buy some NSC assets https://nxtforum.org/assets-board/(ann)-nxt-security-coin-(nsc)-get-paid-for-supporting-the-nxt-network!/msg64183/#msg64183 ?

That's a good idea! Currently, there is already a buy order for MS NSC. Are you suggesting putting up a higher price buy order? Any suggestions from abctc & EmoneyRu are welcomed.
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« Reply #62 on: July 04, 2016, 12:18:42 pm »

I am proposing to modify megalodon plan (not the Nxt system consensus) to limit his special limiting time forging reward only to acount with, let say 1M in NXT holding or less.
It'll really be good to focus the reward on forging stakes below 1M. We want these smaller holders to be actively forging. However, we need to encourage another 300M NXT or almost double current forging stake, and they have to come from medium to large holders. Unlikely holders below 1M will be able to raise the total forging stake to the 60-70% range. So, this 1M NXT limit may be too low. Other strategies are welcomed. BTW, Mr. 47 and another large holder have graciously opted-out of the campaign.

On a separate note, there is a possibility that larger holders may still be not forging due to security or inconvenience. @Riker, is there any reason why the max lease period cannot be increased further, possibly with an option to terminate the lease at anytime by the leasor? This way, they just need to do one lease without having to renew frequently.
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« Reply #63 on: July 04, 2016, 12:24:18 pm »

just place 500k NXT in an account under your controle, name it " OpenSimulator Dedicated Devlopement Fund" and let me promote it in the metaverse circles... the interested guys and ladies will contact you via the wallet by sending a message to the fund account or post here in the forum (experienced fresh new users ;D ) and i will show them what is requiered... i will write a dedicated post and documentations if you accept to help on this

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Thank you for the suggestion. I have not been following this project and have no idea how that can help increase nodes & forging power. Most appreciate if you could help clarify. Any method/project that can contribute towards the objectives of this campaign are welcomed.
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« Reply #64 on: July 04, 2016, 12:59:17 pm »

Since the forging order is pretty much known in advance, can't the large fees be directed and sent only when a node with a certain amount is up next for a block? That way the larger forgers are skipped and don't have to think to go back and return the funds.
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« Reply #65 on: July 04, 2016, 08:49:11 pm »

I'm behind a router that I don't have access to. Does that mean I can't run a forging node (as I can't open the port)? Or does it just stopping me from being hallmarked.

Does anyone have an answer to my question on cloud-based nodes? Maybe I have to make a new thread for it - I'm sure this method was possible at some point.

I'm forging to a pool right now and that cannot be cancelled  :'(
Do I qualify?

Since I don't see an answer yet: You can always cancel by moving your funds to another address. Then (after the balance becomes confirmed) you can forge again.
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« Reply #66 on: July 05, 2016, 05:09:07 am »

Hello World  :D
just place 500k NXT in an account under your controle, name it " OpenSimulator Dedicated Devlopement Fund" and let me promote it in the metaverse circles... the interested guys and ladies will contact you via the wallet by sending a message to the fund account or post here in the forum (experienced fresh new users ;D ) and i will show them what is requiered... i will write a dedicated post and documentations if you accept to help on this

Thank you and @++

Thank you for the suggestion. I have not been following this project and have no idea how that can help increase nodes & forging power. Most appreciate if you could help clarify. Any method/project that can contribute towards the objectives of this campaign are welcomed.

In reality, was a request and not a suggestion but reconsidering the situation and knowing the ecosystem as i know it, i found that was extremely egoist to ask something like this even if the potential of an implementation and adoption as returns is promising...

In my NXT user lifetime and as nxt related service manager, they was only 2 times when an important amount of money was () available that can serve to pay for the development of the implementation of NXT in OpenSimulator virtual worlds...
First time was when Bas was shutting down the Lyth project, i asked him to re-invest a part on this but it's situation was delicate and he did what is politically correct with respect to its investors and asset holders... and talking about the NXT3D Project was a pure speculation unlike now... i have proofs for what you want  ;D
https://nxt3d.net/
https://nxt3d.net/en/step-by-step-guide

second time is now with this bounty but please, let the NXT3D Project at the very end of the list of the things that can be covered by this funds...

Today, i was like if i was hypnotized by this question:
If i had 5 Millions of NXTs dedicated to the promotion of the NXT/Ardor platforms, what are the things where investing on it will give a better result ? and in what timeframe ?

My answer is like this:
1) allocate funds and resources to the NXT Foundation and the Tennessee Project...
https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=10334.msg210490#msg210490

as you see in the OFFICIAL NXT/ARDOR OFFICE pictures... Damelon , EvilDave and the other guys are working with empty hands as tools to do this:
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZUljIZUHCzZpyd1ziwlmaA

and as you see, this is so important to be neglected and this kind of meeting and contacts with the market professionals will be more important when the Ardor platform will be available...
To be in a correct working environnement, the NXT Foundation and Tennessee Project need...:

- 2 or 3 decent low cost notebooks that will be used in the meetings and for the collaborative team works...

- A video projector... as you have noted in the meetings... the image on the screen is never correct because of the projector settings and the PC resolution... with them own video projector, the NXT team will be able to do a pretty cool presentations just because they know well them tool and they have the full right to manipulate it for the screen size and the quality settings...

- 2 or 3 bluetooth headset hands free microphones... they are like the phones ones but for the voice presentations... maybe a full audio system to override the audio system provided by the meeting space... exist a very powerful low cost home cinema stuff in the market...

- 2 or 3 tablets for the presenters... that can serve to remote controle the projector... get the info under the eyes in addition that give a sexy look in the scene  ;D

- 1 professional/industrial color lazer printer that will be used to print the promotional documentations or the documentation coverages... invitation to meetings... NXT/Ardor posters...

- 1 monochrome photocopier for the mass print...
NOTE!: the model of the printer/photocopier is based on the page cost... less is the tonner price for more of pages prints ... is the best ratio

the NXT/Ardor office needs is long... ask to Damelon and EvilDave... ( add a green plant from my part  ;D)

2) The NXT/Ardor mediatization and marketing.
Do you know!, many people think that the edition and the publication of the press releases or the edition of the presentation videos are free but they are not!
one of the things that is really missed is the NXT/Ardor some professional marketing tools... banners, flyers, presentation videos, video tutorials, podcasts... all what can serve to the promotion... in big quantity with multiple templates and subjects...
all this requiere a big fat amount of money! and publish it requiere more money if you want the best audiances and trafic... do you know how much cost 30 seconds of advertising in an economic TV?

3) after the above, if there still funds... you can do a forgers bounty or allocating funds to support the major projects... you know... ;)

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« Reply #67 on: July 05, 2016, 07:01:52 am »

However, I don't understand how you intend to convince users to setup more nodes ?Just sending random transaction fees would benefit the large stake holders who forge, but how do we incentivize small stake holders to run their own node ?

This campaign will be running over a very long period of time starting from snapshot all the way till after Ardor blockchain has been launched. To participate in the "forging fee lottery", small to medium stake holders will be motivated to set up a dedicated node (VPS or Pi or Odroid) rather than running it off & on using their PCs. Very small stake holders my just lease to a pool.


I don't think the expectation that large stake holders would re-donate these "forging fee lottery" fees to smaller forgers is realistic.
So most of these fees will make the rich richer and I doubt it will benefit forging power in any significant way.

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Did you consider to buy some NSC assets https://nxtforum.org/assets-board/(ann)-nxt-security-coin-(nsc)-get-paid-for-supporting-the-nxt-network!/msg64183/#msg64183 ?

That's a good idea! Currently, there is already a buy order for MS NSC. Are you suggesting putting up a higher price buy order? Any suggestions from abctc & EmoneyRu are welcomed.


I would also change the NSC algorithm so that it rewards any public node (not just hallmarked), perhaps provide somewhat higher rewards to hallmarked nodes.
I would also consider higher rewards for archival nodes, we need these nodes as well.

Regarding leasing, currently the leasing period is saved in a Java short data type which means 65536 blocks is the longest leasing period we can support. Any changes to this would require a hard fork and also requires sensitive and time consuming database changes.
Creating a lease transaction can be done without sending your passpphrase and even on an offline computer so shouldn't be a big risk.
Perhaps we should invest in making this process well document and simpler so that it is more widely used.

I also second OutSL idea of investing some of these funds into the NXT foundation.
More ground work by the foundation will bring more users which would setup more forging nodes so indirectly helping your goal.

Perhaps consider the following investment:
2M - forging fee lottery
2M - buy wall for NSC MS tokens
1M - donation to the NXT foundation
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« Reply #68 on: July 05, 2016, 10:48:18 am »

A bit out of topic, but...

I would also consider higher rewards for archival nodes, we need these nodes as well.

I personally stopped running an archival node because I can't remember between each release on how to setup it. Please consider adding a checkbox during the installation process. Leave it unchecked by default. I would certainly choose the archival node option if it was easily available. I'm sure others people would do the same.
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« Reply #69 on: July 05, 2016, 07:54:54 pm »

On a separate note, there is a possibility that larger holders may still be not forging due to security or inconvenience. @Riker, is there any reason why the max lease period cannot be increased further, possibly with an option to terminate the lease at anytime by the leasor? This way, they just need to do one lease without having to renew frequently.
The reason usually given is security. If someone acquires 51% of the forging power by way of leases, they can choose which transactions to include in blocks. The fear is that they could retain their dominance forever by rejecting transactions that would reduce their forging power. Having leases expire automatically, without needing a transaction, means that leased power will eventually inevitably fade.

However, I don't think there's any reason why leases can't be renewed automatically, by a process that runs on the node similar to the shuffler, that issues the needed transactions. Adding this wouldn't involve any network protocol changes, so wouldn't need a hard fork. It "just" needs someone to write the code and the UI.

I would love to know the reasons why some whales don't forge. We've speculated about it endlessly. If I knew any large non-forgers, I'd ask them.
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« Reply #70 on: July 05, 2016, 08:26:59 pm »

Hello World  :D
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Perhaps consider the following investment:
2M - forging fee lottery
...

i think this will be a big fat mistake because there is some problems in forging system... maybe hacked!
eg; from the beginning of 2015 at today , i forged 1 single block... using my own comuter and the NXT3D node https://nxt3d.net:7876/index.html
if you take a look in the blockchain, you will find an account with ~7000NXT forging ~10% of the daily blocks... mean you will give 200k NXT to this account if you do the 2M forging fee lottery...
i found too some account forging with less than 1000NXT as effective balance !!!

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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #71 on: July 05, 2016, 08:38:25 pm »

Hello World  :D
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Perhaps consider the following investment:
2M - forging fee lottery
...

i think this will be a big fat mistake because there is some problems in forging system... maybe hacked!
eg; from the beginning of 2015 at today , i forged 1 single block... using my own comuter and the NXT3D node https://nxt3d.net:7876/index.html
if you take a look in the blockchain, you will find an account with ~7000NXT forging ~10% of the daily blocks... mean you will give 200k NXT to this account if you do the 2M forging fee lottery...
i found too some account forging with less than 1000NXT as effective balance !!!

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« Reply #72 on: July 05, 2016, 08:39:42 pm »

Hello World  :D
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Perhaps consider the following investment:
2M - forging fee lottery
...

i think this will be a big fat mistake because there is some problems in forging system... maybe hacked!
eg; from the beginning of 2015 at today , i forged 1 single block... using my own comuter and the NXT3D node https://nxt3d.net:7876/index.html
if you take a look in the blockchain, you will find an account with ~7000NXT forging ~10% of the daily blocks... mean you will give 200k NXT to this account if you do the 2M forging fee lottery...
i found too some account forging with less than 1000NXT as effective balance !!!

Thank you and @++
Are you referring to this account? https://nxtportal.org/accounts/47475721164246888
If so it has a balance of 7k NXT, but effective balance of 50M NXT since this account (probably himself) leased him 50M NXT.
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« Reply #73 on: July 05, 2016, 09:15:21 pm »

Hi again  :D
Hello World  :D
...
Perhaps consider the following investment:
2M - forging fee lottery
...

i think this will be a big fat mistake because there is some problems in forging system... maybe hacked!
eg; from the beginning of 2015 at today , i forged 1 single block... using my own comuter and the NXT3D node https://nxt3d.net:7876/index.html
if you take a look in the blockchain, you will find an account with ~7000NXT forging ~10% of the daily blocks... mean you will give 200k NXT to this account if you do the 2M forging fee lottery...
i found too some account forging with less than 1000NXT as effective balance !!!

Thank you and @++

Please read about account leasing https://nxtwiki.org/wiki/Account_Leasing
Hello World  :D
...
Perhaps consider the following investment:
2M - forging fee lottery
...

i think this will be a big fat mistake because there is some problems in forging system... maybe hacked!
eg; from the beginning of 2015 at today , i forged 1 single block... using my own comuter and the NXT3D node https://nxt3d.net:7876/index.html
if you take a look in the blockchain, you will find an account with ~7000NXT forging ~10% of the daily blocks... mean you will give 200k NXT to this account if you do the 2M forging fee lottery...
i found too some account forging with less than 1000NXT as effective balance !!!

Thank you and @++
Are you referring to this account? https://nxtportal.org/accounts/47475721164246888
If so it has a balance of 7k NXT, but effective balance of 50M NXT since this account (probably himself) leased him 50M NXT.

Thank you for your explanation, i understand better the why of this "forging in turbo mode"  ;D

but somewhere the problem is the same... a 50M account will get 200k NXT and the community will grow by 0 new user/node as result...
if i had 200k NXT and i want more users/nodes as result... i will divide this amount to 2 parts:
- a marketing part 25-30%
- a bounty part distributed as 100NXT gift / new user....
i will use the marketing part to edit and publish a kind of "Discover the NXT Financial Platform: Get your 100NXT welcome gift" message... you know... marketing and products image building...

Thank you and @++
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #74 on: July 06, 2016, 08:04:33 am »

but somewhere the problem is the same... a 50M account will get 200k NXT and the community will grow by 0 new user/node as result...

This effort wasn't about getting new users directly. It's about getting nodes - and probably already achieved that to a degree, as evidenced in this thread.
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« Reply #75 on: July 06, 2016, 08:11:23 am »

I set up a node yesterday on my raspberry pi 3. How do I know/see if my node is in the Network? Is there a list of all nodes?

And where do you see, if you already forged some NXT?
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« Reply #76 on: July 06, 2016, 08:17:40 am »

I set up a node yesterday on my raspberry pi 3. How do I know/see if my node is in the Network? Is there a list of all nodes?

And where do you see, if you already forged some NXT?

Peerexplorer.com

Your account will increase by forged NXT or you can check it in account ledger under the dashboard or clicking on more info in blocks and then "forged by you".
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« Reply #77 on: July 06, 2016, 10:00:13 am »

Hi again  :D
but somewhere the problem is the same... a 50M account will get 200k NXT and the community will grow by 0 new user/node as result...

This effort wasn't about getting new users directly. It's about getting nodes - and probably already achieved that to a degree, as evidenced in this thread.

yes I understand and I'm not against the idea of a bounty for the forgers but like me, you know that there are so many things that are vital to the future of NXT and Ardor and requiere immediate attention like the last marketing effort and its effect on the markets and the appreciation of the people of this wonderful platform ... the marketing effort stoped and as you see what is happening in the markets...

on the top of the list of the important things, there is our human capital starting by the Core Devs and the community administrators and managers... traders... forgers... and end with the last person that join us.

i am not talking about the financial capacity of the community but about what the people have in them minds and hearts... as personal qualities and skills...

to make this human capital grow (number of the forging nodes too), we need to inform the mass about the existance of NXT/Ardor (include forging in the lot) in a modern and profesional way... with the best as possible as marketing contents... and the guys that work on it are the NXT foundation & the Tennessee Project...

as i said, this important components of the NXT structure/infrastructure need technical resources and funds allowing them to work in a correct conditions... every investment on this vital organizations is a long term and solide investment because the product and the results will be used for years and will constite a solid base for the Ardor starting

i want to hear from Bas, Dave, alex0909, futuraprocessa and the others  :-X
what do you think about my suggestion?

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« Reply #78 on: July 06, 2016, 10:29:25 am »

but somewhere the problem is the same... a 50M account will get 200k NXT and the community will grow by 0 new user/node as result...

Nope

https://www.mynxt.info/transaction/6538306849850570362

BTW, Mr. 47 and another large holder have graciously opted-out of the campaign.

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« Reply #79 on: July 06, 2016, 11:24:27 am »

but somewhere the problem is the same... a 50M account will get 200k NXT and the community will grow by 0 new user/node as result...

Nope

https://www.mynxt.info/transaction/6538306849850570362

BTW, Mr. 47 and another large holder have graciously opted-out of the campaign.

Thanks 4747...888  :)
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« Reply #80 on: July 06, 2016, 11:50:34 am »

but somewhere the problem is the same... a 50M account will get 200k NXT and the community will grow by 0 new user/node as result...

Nope

https://www.mynxt.info/transaction/6538306849850570362

BTW, Mr. 47 and another large holder have graciously opted-out of the campaign.
Thanks my friend!!  :P 8)

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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #81 on: July 06, 2016, 11:55:33 am »

I set up a node yesterday on my raspberry pi 3. How do I know/see if my node is in the Network? Is there a list of all nodes?

And where do you see, if you already forged some NXT?

Peerexplorer.com

Your account will increase by forged NXT or you can check it in account ledger under the dashboard or clicking on more info in blocks and then "forged by you".

Thanks!

I found my node on peerexplorer but it Shows:

Weight: 0
OpenAPI: false
OpenAPI-SSL: false
Archival: false

Does OpenAPI Need to be "true"? And why is my weight: 0?
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« Reply #82 on: July 08, 2016, 04:49:02 pm »

"Lucky Node" lottery.

I was fooling around and coded this small lottery project, to reward nodes. A random number of NXT coins will be sent every 2 hours to a random node.
+ 3 extra rounds at 20:00, 0:00, 4:00 UTC for the daily total of 15 rounds.

To participate in the lottery you must put your NXT address in the nxt.myPlatform property, into the nxt/conf/nxt.properties file.

nxt.myPlatform=NXT-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXXX

You get bonus coins for:
* hallmarking your node and having weight>0 (having a hallmark increases your odds to win)
* open API
* open API_SSL
* running an archival node

For OpenAPI configuration you must have these set:
nxt.allowedBotHosts=*
nxt.apiServerHost=0.0.0.0


it is strongly recommended to increase connection values to make your node more available to peers:

nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections=500
nxt.maxNumberOfOutboundConnections=500
nxt.maxNumberOfConnectedPublicPeers=500


and finally restart your node for configuration changes to take effect.

When you operate a public node behind a firewall and/or router, you must open port 7874 for incoming connections; for OpenAPI you must open port 7876. Google port-forwarding function for your router.
Quick hack to flush all firewall rules on linux: iptables -F

Look up your node in https://nxtportal.org/peers and http://peerexplorer.com lists, it must be in both for best results.


NXT-8F28-EDVE-LPPX-HY4E7 is my address from where coins will be sent, don't put it in myPlatform property. I've funded it with a small amount. When it runs out, I hope a whale can contribute little amounts from time to time to keep this lottery going. My code is probably buggy somewhere, I'll try to make it as smooth as possible if it gets traction.

Useful links:
https://nxtwiki.org/wiki/How-To:CreateHallmark
https://nxtwiki.org/wiki/How-To:CreatePublicNode
https://nxtwiki.org/wiki/How-To:UseSslCerts
Raspberry Pi2 setup guide
https://nxtforum.org/public-nodes-vpss/method-to-configure-https-for-nxt-public-nodes/
How to get both OpenAPI and OpenAPI_SSL flags
https://nxtforum.org/nxt-helpdesk/nxt-node-ssl-woes/msg193209/#msg193209
Set up Archival node
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« Reply #83 on: July 08, 2016, 05:06:51 pm »

I was fooling around and coded this small lottery project, to reward nodes. I think I should later change it to send more coins to hallmarked nodes, but for now any node has the same chance. A random number of NXT coins will be sent hourly to a random node.

To participate in the lottery you must put your NXT address in the nxt.myPlatform property.
Example:

nxt.myPlatform=NXT-8F28-EDVE-LPPX-HY4E7

NXT-8F28-EDVE-LPPX-HY4E7 is the address from where coins will be sent. I've funded it with a small amount. When it runs out, I hope a whale can contribute little amounts from time to time to keep this lottery going. My code is probably buggy somewhere, I'll try to make it as smooth as possible if it gets traction.

Done, good idea, let's see how it will evolve :)
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« Reply #84 on: July 08, 2016, 06:02:36 pm »

I was fooling around and coded this small lottery project, to reward nodes. I think I should later change it to send more coins to hallmarked nodes, but for now any node has the same chance. A random number of NXT coins will be sent hourly to a random node.

To participate in the lottery you must put your NXT address in the nxt.myPlatform property.
Example:

nxt.myPlatform=NXT-8F28-EDVE-LPPX-HY4E7

NXT-8F28-EDVE-LPPX-HY4E7 is the address from where coins will be sent. I've funded it with a small amount. When it runs out, I hope a whale can contribute little amounts from time to time to keep this lottery going. My code is probably buggy somewhere, I'll try to make it as smooth as possible if it gets traction.

Done, good idea, let's see how it will evolve :)

And we have a first winner!
I don't know if it is you martis ;)
As more nodes start participating, the reward will be doubled to make it worthwhile.

When you add your address to the nxt.myPlatform property, don't forget to restart the node.
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« Reply #85 on: July 08, 2016, 06:36:32 pm »

I was fooling around and coded this small lottery project, to reward nodes. I think I should later change it to send more coins to hallmarked nodes, but for now any node has the same chance. A random number of NXT coins will be sent hourly to a random node.

To participate in the lottery you must put your NXT address in the nxt.myPlatform property.
Example:

nxt.myPlatform=NXT-8F28-EDVE-LPPX-HY4E7

NXT-8F28-EDVE-LPPX-HY4E7 is the address from where coins will be sent. I've funded it with a small amount. When it runs out, I hope a whale can contribute little amounts from time to time to keep this lottery going. My code is probably buggy somewhere, I'll try to make it as smooth as possible if it gets traction.

Done, good idea, let's see how it will evolve :)

And we have a first winner!
I don't know if it is you martis ;)
As more nodes start participating, the reward will be doubled to make it worthwhile.

When you add your address to the nxt.myPlatform property, don't forget to restart the node.

Ahh, no, it was not me :)
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« Reply #86 on: July 08, 2016, 06:49:47 pm »

I've checked https://nxtportal.org/peers/
Someone put my NXT address in their node exactly as in my example post. Don't put mine, put your own address :)
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #87 on: July 08, 2016, 08:04:55 pm »

Just received 1 NXT from HY4E7. Thank you so much! ;)
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« Reply #88 on: July 08, 2016, 08:12:33 pm »

Just received 1 NXT from HY4E7. Thank you so much! ;)

You're welcome, the next one should be more. I've doubled amounts and set it to run every 2 hours instead of hourly, to save on fees.
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« Reply #89 on: July 08, 2016, 08:20:55 pm »

I found 3 hallmarked peers running with your account in myplatform (including me), but I see payments sent to 3 different account, excluding me :) This not for bounty, but just testing everything works well :)
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« Reply #90 on: July 08, 2016, 08:29:44 pm »

I found 3 hallmarked peers running with your account in myplatform (including me), but I see payments sent to 3 different account, excluding me :) This not for bounty, but just testing everything works well :)

What? 3 nodes put my address in the config? I've edited my post to make it less confusing hopefully :)
It will take some time for a node to expire the old info about peers, I am not sure but may take up to 24 hours, just a wild guess. So your node will show up eventually, give it some time.
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« Reply #91 on: July 08, 2016, 09:08:52 pm »

I found 3 hallmarked peers running with your account in myplatform (including me), but I see payments sent to 3 different account, excluding me :) This not for bounty, but just testing everything works well :)

What? 3 nodes put my address in the config? I've edited my post to make it less confusing hopefully :)
It will take some time for a node to expire the old info about peers, I am not sure but may take up to 24 hours, just a wild guess. So your node will show up eventually, give it some time.

Well, it was confusing. So now we need to put nxt.myPlatform=NXT-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXXX, not your account instead of XXXXX?

EDIT: Nevermind, got it :)
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« Reply #92 on: July 08, 2016, 09:57:16 pm »

I was fooling around and coded this small lottery project, to reward nodes.

Cool! Does it have to be a public node to be a part of your lottery?
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« Reply #93 on: July 08, 2016, 10:00:44 pm »

I was fooling around and coded this small lottery project, to reward nodes. I think I should later change it to send more coins to hallmarked nodes, but for now any node has the same chance. A random number of NXT coins will be sent hourly to a random node.

To participate in the lottery you must put your NXT address in the nxt.myPlatform property, into the nxt/conf/nxt.properties file.

nxt.myPlatform=NXT-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXXX

and restart your node.

NXT-8F28-EDVE-LPPX-HY4E7 is my address from where coins will be sent, don't put it in myPlatform property. I've funded it with a small amount. When it runs out, I hope a whale can contribute little amounts from time to time to keep this lottery going. My code is probably buggy somewhere, I'll try to make it as smooth as possible if it gets traction.

can you also extract account from hallmark if myPlatform is not set but hallmarked?

With api this should be simple: https://localhost:7876/test?requestType=decodeHallmark

and if you do both hallmarked node already have better (maybe twice) as much probability, because they have either 2 accounts or the same account twice in the lottery? :)

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« Reply #94 on: July 08, 2016, 11:11:48 pm »

Hello World  :D
I was fooling around and coded this small lottery project, to reward nodes. I think I should later change it to send more coins to hallmarked nodes, but for now any node has the same chance. A random number of NXT coins will be sent hourly to a random node.

To participate in the lottery you must put your NXT address in the nxt.myPlatform property, into the nxt/conf/nxt.properties file.

nxt.myPlatform=NXT-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXXX

and restart your node.

NXT-8F28-EDVE-LPPX-HY4E7 is my address from where coins will be sent, don't put it in myPlatform property. I've funded it with a small amount. When it runs out, I hope a whale can contribute little amounts from time to time to keep this lottery going. My code is probably buggy somewhere, I'll try to make it as smooth as possible if it gets traction.
Thank you for your efforts  :D
i found this way more democratic and reward both the forgers with fees and the nodes with the bounty...
i saw in the nxtportal nodes page a lot of outdated versoins running in a lot nodes... will be excluded from the lottery ?

Thank you again and @++
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« Reply #95 on: July 09, 2016, 07:08:42 am »

Cool! Does it have to be a public node to be a part of your lottery?

I get nodes with getPeers&active=true request, I believe it means they have to also be public nodes.

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i saw in the nxtportal nodes page a lot of outdated versoins running in a lot nodes... will be excluded from the lottery ?

Outdated versions (< 1.7) are automatically blacklisted by NRS so they shouldn't have active=true status but I'll verify again.

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can you also extract account from hallmark if myPlatform is not set but hallmarked?

With api this should be simple: https://localhost:7876/test?requestType=decodeHallmark

and if you do both hallmarked node already have better (maybe twice) as much probability, because they have either 2 accounts or the same account twice in the lottery? :)

Yes I can extract accounts from hallmarks but don't know if I should. Hallmarked nodes receive NSC coin rewards.
There are several possibilities:
1) to only check myPlatform setting as it is now;
2) combine myPlatform and hallmark to give nodes hallmarked and myPlatformed with the same NXT account double odds to win.
3) check myPlatform and hallmark and if hallmark account is present in myPlatforms list, give it a small weight-adjusted bonus on top of the normal lottery reward for the effort.
Need suggestions :)

PS: some nodes that have added NXT address to myPlatform are not available, even though they have an open port, because "Maximum number of inbound connections exceeded". They should increase the setting nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections to be able to participate.
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #96 on: July 09, 2016, 10:20:38 am »


Nice project, lurker10. I'll help fund it :)

I was fooling around and coded this small lottery project, to reward nodes. I think I should later change it to send more coins to hallmarked nodes, but for now any node has the same chance. A random number of NXT coins will be sent hourly to a random node.

To participate in the lottery you must put your NXT address in the nxt.myPlatform property, into the nxt/conf/nxt.properties file.

nxt.myPlatform=NXT-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXXX

optionally increase the value of nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections to make your node more available to peers:
nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections=500

and restart your node.

NXT-8F28-EDVE-LPPX-HY4E7 is my address from where coins will be sent, don't put it in myPlatform property. I've funded it with a small amount. When it runs out, I hope a whale can contribute little amounts from time to time to keep this lottery going. My code is probably buggy somewhere, I'll try to make it as smooth as possible if it gets traction.
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #97 on: July 09, 2016, 11:31:29 am »

Nice project, lurker10. I'll help fund it :)

That's great, thanks!
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #98 on: July 09, 2016, 11:36:50 am »

Did you consider to buy some NSC ... ?

That's a good idea! Currently, there is already a buy order for MS NSC. Are you suggesting putting up a higher price buy order? Any suggestions from abctc & EmoneyRu are welcomed.

- yes, just consider putting up a solid buy order at a higher price. Thank you!
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #99 on: July 09, 2016, 03:33:34 pm »

Please configure more nodes with nxt.myPlatform NXT address, we don't want just a few of them taking all the prizes :)
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #100 on: July 09, 2016, 03:51:22 pm »

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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #101 on: July 10, 2016, 03:06:18 pm »

Is that possible to give each user/account of exchange for e.g.50 NXT? That would increase ardor adoption instant.
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #102 on: July 10, 2016, 09:41:34 pm »



Nice project, lurker10. I'll help fund it :)

I was fooling around and coded this small lottery project, to reward nodes. I think I should later change it to send more coins to hallmarked nodes, but for now any node has the same chance. A random number of NXT coins will be sent hourly to a random node.

To participate in the lottery you must put your NXT address in the nxt.myPlatform property, into the nxt/conf/nxt.properties file.

nxt.myPlatform=NXT-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXXX

optionally increase the value of nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections to make your node more available to peers:
nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections=500

and restart your node.

NXT-8F28-EDVE-LPPX-HY4E7 is my address from where coins will be sent, don't put it in myPlatform property. I've funded it with a small amount. When it runs out, I hope a whale can contribute little amounts from time to time to keep this lottery going. My code is probably buggy somewhere, I'll try to make it as smooth as possible if it gets traction.

i think this is the best way for the distribution of the bounty... i did a simple calcule based on a prize of 10NXT fees included per block... this gived me ~347 distribution days!
lurker10 system don't give always 10NXT... that mean, distribution days may be 500 or more and may cover both platforms when you overlay this timeframe on the http://nxt.org/roadmap/

@lurker10: just a suggestion... you have to find a way to exclude the winner for X times from the lottery where X is the number of the participating nodes... 1 chance / X nodes...

Thank you all and @++
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #103 on: July 10, 2016, 10:39:07 pm »

Is that possible to give each user/account of exchange for e.g.50 NXT? That would increase ardor adoption instant.

Yes or they get 10 NXT then a day later 20 more then one week 30 NXT.

Then they are guided how to do a first spend on a product or assett..

Nothing worse than entering a coin and not able to use any features or explore or use it.

This would be a great boost up in retention rate.

But then how to stop people opening many many accounts?

There must be a proof of work.

Perhaps an option.

Promote Ardor on FB, Twitter, Youtube

Like us on FB get 10

Twit about Ardor get 20

Make a youtube video get 30

or maybe .1 and .2 and .3

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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #104 on: July 11, 2016, 06:08:52 am »

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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #105 on: July 11, 2016, 06:10:02 am »

Please configure more nodes with nxt.myPlatform NXT address, we don't want just a few of them taking all the prizes :)
Got mine running and received first 2.70 Nxt.
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #106 on: July 11, 2016, 06:17:09 am »



Nice project, lurker10. I'll help fund it :)

I was fooling around and coded this small lottery project, to reward nodes. I think I should later change it to send more coins to hallmarked nodes, but for now any node has the same chance. A random number of NXT coins will be sent hourly to a random node.

To participate in the lottery you must put your NXT address in the nxt.myPlatform property, into the nxt/conf/nxt.properties file.

nxt.myPlatform=NXT-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXXX

optionally increase the value of nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections to make your node more available to peers:
nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections=500

and restart your node.

NXT-8F28-EDVE-LPPX-HY4E7 is my address from where coins will be sent, don't put it in myPlatform property. I've funded it with a small amount. When it runs out, I hope a whale can contribute little amounts from time to time to keep this lottery going. My code is probably buggy somewhere, I'll try to make it as smooth as possible if it gets traction.

i think this is the best way for the distribution of the bounty... i did a simple calcule based on a prize of 10NXT fees included per block... this gived me ~347 distribution days!
lurker10 system don't give always 10NXT... that mean, distribution days may be 500 or more and may cover both platforms when you overlay this timeframe on the http://nxt.org/roadmap/

@lurker10: just a suggestion... you have to find a way to exclude the winner for X times from the lottery where X is the number of the participating nodes... 1 chance / X nodes...

Thank you all and @++

While in the warm-up stage the prizes are random between 1 and 10 and a small bonus for a hallmark weight if it is > 0. As more nodes join the lottery, the upper boundary will be set higher in steps. The upper boundary limit will be adjusted to the daily average payout limit.

While there are few nodes in the lottery now, some of them can picked several times in a row, this will average out over longer timeframes and distributed over more nodes as they join so it will be as fair as possible. The primary goal of the lottery is to make this venture sort of coin mining for users who have computing resources and zero or very few coins and who would like to get coins by renting out their computer and traffic.
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #107 on: July 11, 2016, 03:57:30 pm »

Cool! Does it have to be a public node to be a part of your lottery?

I get nodes with getPeers&active=true request, I believe it means they have to also be public nodes.

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i saw in the nxtportal nodes page a lot of outdated versoins running in a lot nodes... will be excluded from the lottery ?

Outdated versions (< 1.7) are automatically blacklisted by NRS so they shouldn't have active=true status but I'll verify again.

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can you also extract account from hallmark if myPlatform is not set but hallmarked?

With api this should be simple: https://localhost:7876/test?requestType=decodeHallmark

and if you do both hallmarked node already have better (maybe twice) as much probability, because they have either 2 accounts or the same account twice in the lottery? :)

Yes I can extract accounts from hallmarks but don't know if I should. Hallmarked nodes receive NSC coin rewards.
There are several possibilities:
1) to only check myPlatform setting as it is now;
2) combine myPlatform and hallmark to give nodes hallmarked and myPlatformed with the same NXT account double odds to win.
3) check myPlatform and hallmark and if hallmark account is present in myPlatforms list, give it a small weight-adjusted bonus on top of the normal lottery reward for the effort.
Need suggestions :)

PS: some nodes that have added NXT address to myPlatform are not available, even though they have an open port, because "Maximum number of inbound connections exceeded". They should increase the setting nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections to be able to participate.

Are NSC now limited to hallmarked nodes? I never hallmarked my node and have received NSC. Perhaps that was before some change was made.
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #108 on: July 11, 2016, 03:59:27 pm »

Are NSC now limited to hallmarked nodes? I never hallmarked my node and have received NSC. Perhaps that was before some change was made.

They limited NSC to hallmarked nodes since months ago.
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« Reply #109 on: July 12, 2016, 09:41:33 am »

Are NSC now limited to hallmarked nodes? I never hallmarked my node and have received NSC. Perhaps that was before some change was made.

They limited NSC to hallmarked nodes since months ago.

Thanks to Lurker10 I have again a hallmarked node running. Cool!  :)
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« Reply #110 on: July 12, 2016, 11:23:36 am »

"Lucky Node" lottery.

I was fooling around and coded this small lottery project, to reward nodes. A random number of NXT coins will be sent every 2 hours to a random node.

To participate in the lottery you must put your NXT address in the nxt.myPlatform property, into the nxt/conf/nxt.properties file.

nxt.myPlatform=NXT-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXXX

optionally increase the value of nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections to make your node more available to peers and increase your odds:
nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections=500

again optionally hallmark your node to get extra bonus for weight>0 on top of lottery prize.

and finally restart your node for configuration changes to take effect.

NXT-8F28-EDVE-LPPX-HY4E7 is my address from where coins will be sent, don't put it in myPlatform property. I've funded it with a small amount. When it runs out, I hope a whale can contribute little amounts from time to time to keep this lottery going. My code is probably buggy somewhere, I'll try to make it as smooth as possible if it gets traction.

Thanks lurker10 for the great initiative :)

I currently have an empty nxt.properties file.
Besides setting these properties in the nxt.properties file:

nxt.myAddress=[my IP address]
nxt.myPlatform=NXT-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxx

and the optional:

nxt.myHallmark=[the generated hallmark string]
nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections=500

are there other properties that I need to set?
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #111 on: July 12, 2016, 12:20:22 pm »

What should I do to have my node as Hallmarked node?
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« Reply #112 on: July 12, 2016, 12:39:10 pm »

What should I do to have my node as Hallmarked node?

I'm following http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/How-To:CreateHallmark to create a hallmark node.
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« Reply #113 on: July 12, 2016, 12:44:00 pm »

Is there a conclusion yet as to how the bounties will be distributed?
To forgers or node runners / hallmarked / archival nodes? Or all? Using lurker1's lottery or ... ?

Megadolon, could you summarise? :)

I'll write an article tonight + send a newsletter with this info, at best before the snapshots start - which is in only 2 days now, as I understand it.

And thanks! For the initiative and the 5M, this is absolutely awesome!

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« Reply #114 on: July 12, 2016, 12:52:37 pm »

Thanks lurker10 for the great initiative :)

I currently have an empty nxt.properties file.
Besides setting these properties in the nxt.properties file:

nxt.myAddress=[my IP address]
nxt.myPlatform=NXT-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxx

and the optional:

nxt.myHallmark=[the generated hallmark string]
nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections=500

are there other properties that I need to set?
Thanks!

For this lottery you don't need other properties.

You may need other properties for something else :)
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #115 on: July 12, 2016, 12:53:08 pm »

What should I do to have my node as Hallmarked node?

I'm following http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/How-To:CreateHallmark to create a hallmark node.
Can someone confirm?

yeah, follow this link.
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« Reply #116 on: July 12, 2016, 01:28:25 pm »

Thanks lurker10 for the great initiative :)

I currently have an empty nxt.properties file.
Besides setting these properties in the nxt.properties file:

nxt.myAddress=[my IP address]
nxt.myPlatform=NXT-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxx

and the optional:

nxt.myHallmark=[the generated hallmark string]
nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections=500

are there other properties that I need to set?
Thanks!

For this lottery you don't need other properties.

You may need other properties for something else :)
Thanks! :)
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« Reply #117 on: July 12, 2016, 06:21:53 pm »

"Lucky Node" lottery.

I was fooling around and coded this small lottery project, to reward nodes. A random number of NXT coins will be sent every 2 hours to a random node.

To participate in the lottery you must put your NXT address in the nxt.myPlatform property, into the nxt/conf/nxt.properties file.

nxt.myPlatform=NXT-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXXX

optionally increase the value of nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections to make your node more available to peers and increase your odds:
nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections=500

again optionally hallmark your node to get extra bonus for weight>0 on top of lottery prize.

and finally restart your node for configuration changes to take effect.

NXT-8F28-EDVE-LPPX-HY4E7 is my address from where coins will be sent, don't put it in myPlatform property. I've funded it with a small amount. When it runs out, I hope a whale can contribute little amounts from time to time to keep this lottery going. My code is probably buggy somewhere, I'll try to make it as smooth as possible if it gets traction.

great lurker!!! is there a possibility to check if my configuration is the right one?
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« Reply #118 on: July 12, 2016, 06:27:49 pm »

great lurker!!! is there a possibility to check if my configuration is the right one?

Do you see your node in https://nxtportal.org/peers ? and do you see your account ID in the platform column? Then it's the right one :) The maxinbound setting will help you be more visible on the network, it'll sometimes help to not be locked out of the lottery.
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« Reply #119 on: July 12, 2016, 07:11:08 pm »

Is there a conclusion yet as to how the bounties will be distributed?
To forgers or node runners / hallmarked / archival nodes? Or all? Using lurker1's lottery or ... ?

Megadolon, could you summarise? :)

I'll write an article tonight + send a newsletter with this info, at best before the snapshots start - which is in only 2 days now, as I understand it.

And thanks! For the initiative and the 5M, this is absolutely awesome!


Thanks Apenzi for writing about this. Here's my summary.

Forging Bounty Lottery campaign managed by Forging Bootstrapper account NXT-HH9F-JMRB-6HRD-HD5ZW is designed to reward active forgers as explained in the Op. If you’re already an active forger, you need not do anything extra. You’re automatically participating in this Lottery. Transactions with exceptionally high fees will be sent randomly (but not frequently) from the start of Ardor snapshot until this account balance is zero.

This campaign is managed such that it is expected to run for some time after Adror chain is live. Ardor tokens distributed to this account will be rewarded to Ardor forgers while the remaining NXT will continue to be rewarded to Nxt1.0 forgers even after Ardor is launched.

This lottery is skewed in favour of accounts with smaller forging power. Some large accounts (including Mr.47) has opted out of this campaign to increase chance of other forgers. Please note that these “Lottery Transactions” may accidentally be forged by opt-out accounts due to the non-100% certainty of forging order.

Mining pools are also eligible for this campaign. To increase your chances in the lottery, please identify yourselves here. Thank you.

The "Lucky Node" Lottery managed by lurker10 runs independently of the Forging Bounty Lottery. It rewards public node operators irrespective of their forging activity, with an "extra bonus for weight>0 on top of lottery prize". More lottery incentives like open APIs & Archival nodes may be added, but to participate in this lottery, node operators have to identify their participating account through the nxt.myPlatform parameter in the nxt.properties file. As this lottery falls within the overall objectives of the Forging Bounty Lottery campaign, it will be supported via donations from Forging Bootstrapper account NXT-HH9F-JMRB-6HRD-HD5ZW. To receive rewards from both, you need to run a public node AND forge.

These 2 campaigns are in addition to an existing, long-running campaign managed by abtc and EmoneyRu using the Monetary System coin NSC. They exclusively reward hallmarked nodes. Forging Bootstrapper account NXT-HH9F-JMRB-6HRD-HD5ZW will also be supporting this campaign by putting up occasional buy offers that are significantly higher than existing offers.

To benefit from all 3 campaigns, you’ll need to run a public node AND hallmark it AND forge with your NXT balance.

Let’s all work together to strengthen the Nxt1.0 & upcoming Nxt2.0 network :)
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« Reply #120 on: July 12, 2016, 07:14:44 pm »

"Lucky Node" lottery.

I was fooling around and coded this small lottery project, to reward nodes. A random number of NXT coins will be sent every 2 hours to a random node.

To participate in the lottery you must put your NXT address in the nxt.myPlatform property, into the nxt/conf/nxt.properties file.

nxt.myPlatform=NXT-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXXX

optionally increase the value of nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections to make your node more available to peers and increase your odds:
nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections=500

again optionally hallmark your node to get extra bonus for weight>0 on top of lottery prize.

and finally restart your node for configuration changes to take effect.

NXT-8F28-EDVE-LPPX-HY4E7 is my address from where coins will be sent, don't put it in myPlatform property. I've funded it with a small amount. When it runs out, I hope a whale can contribute little amounts from time to time to keep this lottery going. My code is probably buggy somewhere, I'll try to make it as smooth as possible if it gets traction.

lurker10 it's always great to see such initiative, however I don't understand the advantage of using the myPlatform property over hallmarking the node.
Users can calculate their node hallmark quickly from the client wallet settings menu, and from your script you easily extract the account id from the hallmark using the decodeHallmark API.
Adding hallmarked node will contribute to the network more than using the myPlatform parameter.
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #121 on: July 12, 2016, 07:25:21 pm »

"Lucky Node" lottery.

I was fooling around and coded this small lottery project, to reward nodes. A random number of NXT coins will be sent every 2 hours to a random node.

To participate in the lottery you must put your NXT address in the nxt.myPlatform property, into the nxt/conf/nxt.properties file.

nxt.myPlatform=NXT-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXXX

optionally increase the value of nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections to make your node more available to peers and increase your odds:
nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections=500

again optionally hallmark your node to get extra bonus for weight>0 on top of lottery prize.

and finally restart your node for configuration changes to take effect.

NXT-8F28-EDVE-LPPX-HY4E7 is my address from where coins will be sent, don't put it in myPlatform property. I've funded it with a small amount. When it runs out, I hope a whale can contribute little amounts from time to time to keep this lottery going. My code is probably buggy somewhere, I'll try to make it as smooth as possible if it gets traction.

lurker10 it's always great to see such initiative, however I don't understand the advantage of using the myPlatform property over hallmarking the node.
Users can calculate their node hallmark quickly from the client wallet settings menu, and from your script you easily extract the account id from the hallmark using the decodeHallmark API.
Adding hallmarked node will contribute to the network more than using the myPlatform parameter.

Well, let's say this lottery is substitute for mining for users who only have their computer and bandwidth to earn coins. They cannot set up a hallmark because they don't have coins or very few coins. Now with this lottery they can "mine" coins running a public node on their computer. There is small a bonus if their node has a hallmark weight. Rewarding hallmarked nodes is already managed by the NSC project, so I am targeting other users here who'd like to make their idle computer make them some coins. Do you think it makes sense?
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #122 on: July 12, 2016, 07:36:24 pm »

"Lucky Node" lottery.

I was fooling around and coded this small lottery project, to reward nodes. A random number of NXT coins will be sent every 2 hours to a random node.

To participate in the lottery you must put your NXT address in the nxt.myPlatform property, into the nxt/conf/nxt.properties file.

nxt.myPlatform=NXT-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXXX

optionally increase the value of nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections to make your node more available to peers and increase your odds:
nxt.maxNumberOfInboundConnections=500

again optionally hallmark your node to get extra bonus for weight>0 on top of lottery prize.

and finally restart your node for configuration changes to take effect.

NXT-8F28-EDVE-LPPX-HY4E7 is my address from where coins will be sent, don't put it in myPlatform property. I've funded it with a small amount. When it runs out, I hope a whale can contribute little amounts from time to time to keep this lottery going. My code is probably buggy somewhere, I'll try to make it as smooth as possible if it gets traction.

lurker10 it's always great to see such initiative, however I don't understand the advantage of using the myPlatform property over hallmarking the node.
Users can calculate their node hallmark quickly from the client wallet settings menu, and from your script you easily extract the account id from the hallmark using the decodeHallmark API.
Adding hallmarked node will contribute to the network more than using the myPlatform parameter.

Well, let's say this lottery is substitute for mining for users who only have their computer and bandwidth to earn coins. They cannot set up a hallmark because they don't have coins or very few coins. Now with this lottery they can "mine" coins running a public node on their computer. There is small a bonus if their node has a hallmark weight. Rewarding hallmarked nodes is already managed by the NSC project, so I am targeting other users here who'd like to make their idle computer make them some coins. Do you think it makes sense?

The issue is a bit involved and perhaps I'm not 100% accurate, my understanding is you can setup a hallmark node even if you don't forge and even if you have a small balance. You have to have your peer port 7874 open for outside connection so users behind a firewall won't participate only users running a VPS or using port forwarding.
I recommend that you also reward peers with open APIs (i.e. nxt.apiServerHost=0.0.0.0) and archival nodes.
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #123 on: July 12, 2016, 07:45:22 pm »

The issue is a bit involved and perhaps I'm not 100% accurate, my understanding is you can setup a hallmark node even if you don't forge and even if you have a small balance. You have to have your peer port 7874 open for outside connection so users behind a firewall won't participate only users running a VPS or using port forwarding.
I recommend that you also reward peers with open APIs (i.e. nxt.apiServerHost=0.0.0.0) and archival nodes.

Yes, only public nodes can participate, port 7874 needs to be opened. There are a lot of underutilized computing and bandwidth resources that can be turned into public nodes. It's like a giveaway for new users but they must do useful work instead of begging. Well, that was my idea for making this lottery.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll look into modifying it to reward open API and archival nodes too if they have a hallmark, on top of NSC rewards that they receive.
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« Reply #124 on: July 12, 2016, 08:31:12 pm »

Forging Bounty Lottery campaign managed by Forging Bootstrapper account NXT-HH9F-JMRB-6HRD-HD5ZW [...]

Lottery campaign managed by lurker10 runs independently of the Forging Bounty Lottery.
As I understand it, to participate in the lurker10 lottery you need to set your nxt.myPlatform to the account you want to receive the funds. I think that's important enough to mention in the summary.

lurker10 it's always great to see such initiative, however I don't understand the advantage of using the myPlatform property over hallmarking the node.
I suppose one benefit of using nxt.myplatform is that they can have the lottery pay to an account that they don't own. Another is that they can opt out of this lottery by doing nothing; it's the default. To opt out of the Forging Bounty Lottery you have to notify someone. A disadvantage is that it uses up the nxt.myplatform field, which is the only field we get that we can set to anything we like. I like to have mine set to my name.

Regardless, I agree: I'd rather every node had a hallmark, no matter how small. Every little raises the cost of Sybil attacks. Currently we have around 900 nodes with 0 hallmarks, so an attacker would only need 1 NXT per node to be rated over them. If they had hallmarks of 1000 NXT instead, and an attacker wanted to own 90% of nodes, they'd need 10,000,000 NXT.

They cannot set up a hallmark because they don't have coins or very few coins.
You don't any coins to set up a hallmark. Hallmarks are completely separate to forging.
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« Reply #125 on: July 12, 2016, 08:44:30 pm »

You don't any coins to set up a hallmark. Hallmarks are completely separate to forging.

Yeah I know hallmarks are separate to forging.
In terms of benefiting the network having a hallmark with a weight of 0 = having no hallmark.
Besides, the hallmarked nodes are already rewarded by NSC, the lottery would be unseating the NSC project :) Still I allocate a few bits for the weight when sending the reward. A bonus to openAPI and archival nodes will be added in the next few days.
I can run a separate lottery for hallmarked nodes and assign rewards according to their weights. But I think it's also important to reward 0 weight nodes of newbies who set up their first node and want to earn some coins.
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« Reply #126 on: July 12, 2016, 08:47:55 pm »

As I understand it, to participate in the lurker10 lottery you need to set your nxt.myPlatform to the account you want to receive the funds. I think that's important enough to mention in the summary.

Thanks. Done.
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« Reply #127 on: July 12, 2016, 09:46:11 pm »

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« Reply #128 on: July 12, 2016, 10:27:27 pm »

Will this work if your ISP is using CG-NAT?

Im unable to port forward with my router because of it, but my NXT client says its forging. Any ideas?
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« Reply #129 on: July 13, 2016, 12:20:45 am »

I have the NXT client on my laptop and 1/4 the time i am forging. Balance of 200,000

What are the steps to do to take advantage of these two lotteries?

Are they two separate or now merged issues?

1 - Can i keep forging part time on my laptop?

What do i need to do or change?

2 - Can i join a forging pool and lease my account funds and they already have this set up?

DO you get rewarded based on your balance in the pools . How does a pool know who forged a block and who won a lottery prize?

What do i do to join a pool to have them utilize my balance 24/7.

3 How does any of this effect Ardor snapshots?

Thanks for any help or comments..

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« Reply #130 on: July 13, 2016, 09:35:24 am »

What are the steps to do to take advantage of these two lotteries?

@NXT ENTERPRISE, for the "Lucky node" lottery, have a look at my signature post, I've updated it. Verify that your node is in peerexplorer.com list of public nodes.

Now you get bonus coins for:
* hallmarking your node and having weight>0;
* open API
* open API_SSL
* running an archival node

I still don't know whether the lottery should duplicate efforts of the NSC project and get rid of using nxt.myPlatform property rewarding only hallmarked nodes. The current version will assign more coins to hallmarked nodes and other important services (open api, open api_ssl, archival), but yet it gives a chance to public node operators with 0 coins, making this a small coin mining project for them that at the same time benefits Nxt.
A second lottery round for hallmarked nodes only could be added, but again, it would duplicate the NSC project, except they have it averaged and the lottery is random but on average it's the same. We should keep it decentralized and let both projects do slightly different things, but only slightly :) I suggest we leave this as is now, having bonus points for hallmarks and other flags helps strengthen more against Sybil attacks and provide for what users need.
NRS software seems to favor hallmarked nodes more, and they get more love in connections that the lottery looks up for each round. This automatedly skews the balance of winnings towards them, so there is a natural incentive to hallmark.

@Megalodon, the current daily payout is 100 NXT on average. Is it too low, too high, where do you stand on this point? :)
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« Reply #131 on: July 13, 2016, 10:00:43 am »

Where does the value of the NSC coins come from? I can remember NCS assets lost value.
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« Reply #132 on: July 13, 2016, 10:27:01 am »

@Megalodon, the current daily payout is 100 NXT on average. Is it too low, too high, where do you stand on this point? :)

If everything is running fine, I think 100NXT/day is too low. We could try out 500NXT/day for a week and see how it goes and fine tune it from there.
I've just topped up your lottery jar with 3500NXT.
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« Reply #133 on: July 13, 2016, 10:33:45 am »

Will this work if your ISP is using CG-NAT?

Im unable to port forward with my router because of it, but my NXT client says its forging. Any ideas?

In this case, you won't be able to participate in lurker10's Lucky Node lottery, but will automatically be participating in the Forging Bounty lottery if you have an active forging account in that server.
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« Reply #134 on: July 13, 2016, 10:36:01 am »

Where does the value of the NSC coins come from? I can remember NCS assets lost value.

There is NSC currency in monetary system, NSC asset is abandoned long time ago. The buyer of NSC currency was our famous GLEFU :)
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« Reply #135 on: July 13, 2016, 12:56:00 pm »

@Megalodon, the current daily payout is 100 NXT on average. Is it too low, too high, where do you stand on this point? :)

If everything is running fine, I think 100NXT/day is too low. We could try out 500NXT/day for a week and see how it goes and fine tune it from there.
I've just topped up your lottery jar with 3500NXT.

Very well, I will gradually ramp up payouts to 500 NXT/day over the next week as more nodes join the party.
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« Reply #136 on: July 13, 2016, 01:05:09 pm »

The buyer of NSC currency was our famous GLEFU :)
Thanks, Martis.
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« Reply #137 on: July 13, 2016, 01:42:53 pm »

Looking over IP addresses in https://nxtportal.org/peers I noticed that one NXT account is running on 8 nodes: NXT-MP7B-F26P-VSME-CQF5B
Not one of these addresses show in peerexplorer.com and this account has never won a lottery despite that its odds should be sufficient to win at least once.
It turned out that all of these IPs are tor exit node ips and of course they cannot be public nodes. Operators, please set up proper public nodes. Forging through Tor is possible, but running a public node is not.
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« Reply #138 on: July 13, 2016, 01:46:21 pm »

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* hallmarking your node and having weight>0;
* open API
* open API_SSL
* running an archival node
Some noob questions:
What are each of the above? Their differences?
How does each of these help the network?
What is the requirement to setup each of these?

Time to get educated. Any help or relevant links would be much appreciated :)
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« Reply #139 on: July 13, 2016, 01:55:37 pm »

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* hallmarking your node and having weight>0;
* open API
* open API_SSL
* running an archival node
Some noob questions:
What are each of the above? Their differences?
How does each of these help the network?
What is the requirement to setup each of these?

Time to get educated. Any help or relevant links would be much appreciated :)

Open API lets anyone access your node API, open web interface if they know the IP of the node and the node is public. They can open http://8.8.8.8:7876 and operate it as if it was their localhost:7876 running node. Of course this is not recommended and may be a security concern for users because node operator could have replaced javascript and attempt to steal their passphrase. Some services use Open API public nodes to pull data from Nxt blockchain and push transactions. You can have a look at my signature link to find out how to make your public node have an Open API flag.
Open API_SSL is Open API running over a SSL connection.

Arbitrary messages in the Nxt blockchain are automatedly pruned after 90 days by default. Archival node is a node that doesn't prune data after the default 90 days and can be used to pull historic data from. This comes at a cost of having to store more data and more load on the node, so the lottery now gives extra points to such nodes.

See my signature lottery post for links on how to make your public node carry Open API, Open API_SSL, PRUNABLE (archival node) flags.

These additional services add to the RAM and hard drive I/O operations, this is not a large footprint but it should grow with increased usage of the network.
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« Reply #140 on: July 13, 2016, 07:04:53 pm »

So, does this go to running "nodes" or those that forge a block?
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« Reply #142 on: July 13, 2016, 07:08:45 pm »

In terms of benefiting the network having a hallmark with a weight of 0 = having no hallmark.
I'm not suggesting you give more reward to hallmarked nodes, necessarily. To run your lottery you need to associate nodes with accounts. There are two ways of doing that. The first is via nxt.myplatform. The second is via a hallmark. I'm suggesting you prefer, or at least accept, the second way.

It's true that a valid hallmark with a weight of 0 doesn't benefit the network much, but it still serves for identifying the account for your lottery. And in practice I doubt the account will remain empty for long. It won't be empty if they win the lottery, for example. Even newbies should be able to get some free NXT from faucets.
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« Reply #143 on: July 13, 2016, 07:20:47 pm »

In terms of benefiting the network having a hallmark with a weight of 0 = having no hallmark.
I'm not suggesting you give more reward to hallmarked nodes, necessarily. To run your lottery you need to associate nodes with accounts. There are two ways of doing that. The first is via nxt.myplatform. The second is via a hallmark. I'm suggesting you prefer, or at least accept, the second way.

It's true that a valid hallmark with a weight of 0 doesn't benefit the network much, but it still serves for identifying the account for your lottery. And in practice I doubt the account will remain empty for long. It won't be empty if they win the lottery, for example. Even newbies should be able to get some free NXT from faucets.

Ok. As I wrote earlier today identifying with the hallmark will essentially duplicate what the NSC project does to hallmarked nodes. There is already an overlap between the two. I will let it run for a week as is with all the new bonus options to reward hallmarked and other 'distinguished' nodes added today and look into it again. There is a possibility that most, even newbie operators will hallmark their nodes to take advantage of the hallmark extra points and there will be no reason to keep using myPlatform, except for backwards compatibility :)
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« Reply #144 on: July 13, 2016, 08:38:24 pm »

You don't any coins to set up a hallmark. Hallmarks are completely separate to forging.

Yeah I know hallmarks are separate to forging.
In terms of benefiting the network having a hallmark with a weight of 0 = having no hallmark.
Besides, the hallmarked nodes are already rewarded by NSC, the lottery would be unseating the NSC project :) Still I allocate a few bits for the weight when sending the reward. A bonus to openAPI and archival nodes will be added in the next few days.
I can run a separate lottery for hallmarked nodes and assign rewards according to their weights. But I think it's also important to reward 0 weight nodes of newbies who set up their first node and want to earn some coins.

Question Nr.1 : How could I setup archival node in nxt.properties properly? Is this the right way? :

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nxt.maxPrunableLifetime=-1
nxt.includeExpiredPrunable=true

Could http://www.peerexplorer.com/nodes page shows also archival nodes, as it shows OpenAPI / OpenAPI-SSL already ?

Question Nr.2 : About weight; although I'm running hallmarked nodes for at least two years, I'm still not pretty sure, how weight works and if it works ;-). In any case: I'm usually setting weight to value 100 (well, maybe I should slightly increase this value, as most of my nodes are on the core Gbps network), but if I check my nodes then on www.peerexplorer.com, by some of them I still see value 0, by another ones value e.g. 188000, etc. So, what's the right formula for counting of (current) weight and why it is "so dynamic" ? ;)

Thanks in advance and also big thanks for all the "node supporters" (as with NSC, as with lottery model...); I assume that the network of stronge nodes is crucial for NXT life & ecosystem. And the Ardor as well...of course :-)
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« Reply #145 on: July 13, 2016, 08:51:13 pm »

You don't any coins to set up a hallmark. Hallmarks are completely separate to forging.

Yeah I know hallmarks are separate to forging.
In terms of benefiting the network having a hallmark with a weight of 0 = having no hallmark.
Besides, the hallmarked nodes are already rewarded by NSC, the lottery would be unseating the NSC project :) Still I allocate a few bits for the weight when sending the reward. A bonus to openAPI and archival nodes will be added in the next few days.
I can run a separate lottery for hallmarked nodes and assign rewards according to their weights. But I think it's also important to reward 0 weight nodes of newbies who set up their first node and want to earn some coins.

Question Nr.1 : How could I setup archival node in nxt.properties properly? Is this the right way? :

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nxt.includeExpiredPrunable=true

It's the right way, but there is an additional step, if your node is already running. You must first make it fetch all historic data from other archival nodes. This is explained in the 'Setup up Archival node' link that you can find in my signature lottery post link.

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Could http://www.peerexplorer.com/nodes page shows also archival nodes, as it shows OpenAPI / OpenAPI-SSL already ?

You need to ask crimi, he runs this website.

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Question Nr.2 : About weight; although I'm running hallmarked nodes for at least two years, I'm still not pretty sure, how weight works and if it works ;-). In any case: I'm usually setting weight to value 100 (well, maybe I should slightly increase this value, as most of my nodes are on the core Gbps network), but if I check my nodes then on www.peerexplorer.com, by some of them I still see value 0, by another ones value e.g. 188000, etc. So, what's the right formula for counting of (current) weight and why it is "so dynamic" ? ;)

Thanks in advance and also big thanks for all the "node supporters" (as with NSC, as with lottery model...); I assume that the network of stronge nodes is crucial for NXT life & ecosystem. And the Ardor as well...of course :-)

You can set weight to any number when you create a hallmark, the weight will be calculated and shown dynamically by current balance of the NXT account from which you generated the hallmark.
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« Reply #146 on: July 13, 2016, 09:36:57 pm »

Mining pools are also eligible for this campaign. To increase your chances in the lottery, please identify yourselves here. Thank you.

Hello

I'm running a mining pool ( https://nxtforum.org/leasing-pools/nxt-pool/new/#new ) on this address : NXT-ADAM-GA7J-FULY-CHVLS

Anything i have to do except posting here ? :)
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« Reply #147 on: July 14, 2016, 07:48:16 am »

Mining pools are also eligible for this campaign. To increase your chances in the lottery, please identify yourselves here. Thank you.

Hello

I'm running a mining pool ( https://nxtforum.org/leasing-pools/nxt-pool/new/#new ) on this address : NXT-ADAM-GA7J-FULY-CHVLS

Anything i have to do except posting here ? :)


No, all good. Thanks for identifying your pool.
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« Reply #148 on: July 14, 2016, 08:55:29 am »

Is there any guide that's a bit more up to date about how to setup Open API_SSL? I got everything setup (Domain, Cert, Settings), but as soon as I activate the nxt.apiSSL option, nxt crashes right after starting.

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« Reply #149 on: July 14, 2016, 09:11:58 am »

Is there any guide that's a bit more up to date about how to setup Open API_SSL? I got everything setup (Domain, Cert, Settings), but as soon as I activate the nxt.apiSSL option, nxt crashes right after starting.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Maybe this will help?
https://nxtforum.org/public-nodes-vpss/method-to-configure-https-for-nxt-public-nodes/
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« Reply #150 on: July 14, 2016, 09:26:01 am »

Is there any guide that's a bit more up to date about how to setup Open API_SSL? I got everything setup (Domain, Cert, Settings), but as soon as I activate the nxt.apiSSL option, nxt crashes right after starting.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Can you post the last few lines of your logs/nxt.log file?

Generally to have OpenAPI_SSL you need to generate a certificate (keystore), can be self-signed for a bogus name if you only need to run it on ip address and the following settings:

nxt.allowedBotHosts=*
nxt.apiServerHost=0.0.0.0
nxt.keyStorePassword=xxxxxx    - the password you chose creating the certificate.
nxt.keyStorePath=keystore     - name of the SSL keys file, keystore is the default name, the path of the file is relative to your nxt directory.

nxt.apiSSL=true   - this setting enables OpenAPI_SSL, but there is a caveat. OpenAPI and OpenAPI_SSL cannot be on the same port.

If you want to only have OpenAPI_SSL flag activated, that's all, you mustn't do any other settings.
To have both OpenAPI and OpenAPI_SSL services for maximum bonus lottery points, you must run them on different ports. In this case you need the following settings:

nxt.apiServerPort=xxxx    - put here some other port, 7878 is safe.
nxt.apiServerSSLPort=7876

you can switch places and set, as long as they are different ports, both OpenAPI_SSL and OpenAPI flags will be activated.

nxt.apiServerPort=7876
nxt.apiServerSSLPort=7878
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« Reply #151 on: July 14, 2016, 11:46:01 am »

@apenzl has done a very good article I hope you enjoy it!! Click the image ;)


“The Forging Bounty Lottery campaign” will pay 5 million in rewards to forgers and Nxt nodes"


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....Megadolon has come forward with The Forging Bootstrapper initiative;
an account holding 5M NXT, which will be distributed randomly among Nxters forging to help run and secure the Nxt network....

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« Reply #152 on: July 14, 2016, 11:50:26 am »

Cool thnx guys! Shared it!
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« Reply #153 on: July 14, 2016, 12:06:30 pm »

@apenzl has done a very good article I hope you enjoy it!! Click the image ;)


“The Forging Bounty Lottery campaign” will pay 5 million in rewards to forgers and Nxt nodes"


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....Megadolon has come forward with The Forging Bootstrapper initiative;
an account holding 5M NXT, which will be distributed randomly among Nxters forging to help run and secure the Nxt network....

Am I alone? This link doesn't work for me.
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« Reply #154 on: July 14, 2016, 12:29:50 pm »

@apenzl has done a very good article I hope you enjoy it!! Click the image ;)


“The Forging Bounty Lottery campaign” will pay 5 million in rewards to forgers and Nxt nodes"


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....Megadolon has come forward with The Forging Bootstrapper initiative;
an account holding 5M NXT, which will be distributed randomly among Nxters forging to help run and secure the Nxt network....

Am I alone? This link doesn't work for me.

No, not working.
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« Reply #155 on: July 14, 2016, 12:42:38 pm »

I've been having problems with nxter links for a while now.
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« Reply #156 on: July 14, 2016, 01:49:28 pm »

Ups! For me it works well ??? Idk what happen...@apenzl will not be avaliable in a week.
Shit!Sorry guys :(

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« Reply #157 on: July 14, 2016, 02:10:18 pm »

Thanks for the nice article guys, but i can't see it good.
It loads really slow and the look&feel is not loaded on my pc (Europe).

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« Reply #158 on: July 14, 2016, 02:13:31 pm »

Thanks for the nice article guys, but i can't see it good.
It loads really slow and the look&feel is not loaded on my pc (Europe).

The CSS stylesheet is probably not loaded correct.
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« Reply #159 on: July 14, 2016, 03:04:43 pm »

To have both OpenAPI and OpenAPI_SSL services for maximum bonus lottery points, you must run them on different ports. In this case you need the following settings:

nxt.apiServerPort=xxxx    - put here some other port, 7878 is safe.
nxt.apiServerSSLPort=7876

you can switch places and set, as long as they are different ports, both OpenAPI_SSL and OpenAPI flags will be activated.

nxt.apiServerPort=7876
nxt.apiServerSSLPort=7878

First of all: Thanks for all the help. I got everything working so far. It is now accessible via http and https using different ports. Just one problem left: Peerexplorer is only recognizing one or the other, whatever is set to 7876. Anything else I need to pay attention to, to get it recognizing both?
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« Reply #160 on: July 14, 2016, 03:08:21 pm »

To have both OpenAPI and OpenAPI_SSL services for maximum bonus lottery points, you must run them on different ports. In this case you need the following settings:

nxt.apiServerPort=xxxx    - put here some other port, 7878 is safe.
nxt.apiServerSSLPort=7876

you can switch places and set, as long as they are different ports, both OpenAPI_SSL and OpenAPI flags will be activated.

nxt.apiServerPort=7876
nxt.apiServerSSLPort=7878

First of all: Thanks for all the help. I got everything working so far. It is now accessible via http and https using different ports. Just one problem left: Peerexplorer is only recognizing one or the other, whatever is set to 7876. Anything else I need to pay attention to, to get it recognizing both?

Peerexplorer is not a problem, it's how they display it. If you're sure you can access on http and https, your node is all set, it signals both API and API_SSL flags and will receive bonus points for both when queried for status.
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« Reply #161 on: July 14, 2016, 03:14:18 pm »

Peerexplorer is not a problem, it's how they display it. If you're sure you can access on http and https, your node is all set, it signals both API and API_SSL flags and will receive bonus points for both when queried for status.

Ok, thanks! Then everything is fine now. :)
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« Reply #162 on: July 14, 2016, 04:44:30 pm »

I finally setup my first node on a new Raspi 3. It's visible on both sites nxtportal.org and peerexplorer.com

Here i see my NXT address nsc.nxt.org/status so the hallmark worked, or how can i check it?

I dont want to setup a open API because i forge with a high NXT amount and dont want to risk anything. I generated a keypair and self-signed certificate and enabled "nxt.apiSSL", is there still a risk left?

Thanks for the help i'm happy to be on board  ;D
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« Reply #163 on: July 14, 2016, 04:52:28 pm »

Could http://www.peerexplorer.com/nodes page shows also archival nodes, as it shows OpenAPI / OpenAPI-SSL already ?
done
Just one problem left: Peerexplorer is only recognizing one or the other, whatever is set to 7876. Anything else I need to pay attention to, to get it recognizing both?
PeerExplorer is not scanning any customized ports.
Its not really worth the performance decrease to scan all ports from 0-65535. Also it would look like a malicious behavior to do so.
From my side i will only add both flags in the future if the Nrs API getState request outputs the custom port.


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« Reply #164 on: July 14, 2016, 05:28:23 pm »

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« Reply #165 on: July 14, 2016, 05:33:19 pm »

Megalodon we can see you:

1) https://www.mynxt.info/block/10789218585186189936

Hope Asen Mitev sees that too :)   
That was the first one, more to come in the days, weeks & months ahead!
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« Reply #166 on: July 14, 2016, 08:56:00 pm »

I'm moving to a new place in a couple of days. Will hallmark my node there! :)


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« Reply #167 on: July 14, 2016, 09:59:41 pm »

PeerExplorer is not scanning any customized ports.
Its not really worth the performance decrease to scan all ports from 0-65535. Also it would look like a malicious behavior to do so.
From my side i will only add both flags in the future if the Nrs API getState request outputs the custom port.

Couldn't you just use the services array in getState for this matter? Since 1.7 it includes API and API_SSL. Wouldn't that be sufficient enough to determine, if both flags should be set? Of course you would only get the ports with getPeer and apiPort/apiSSLPort, but do you really need the actual port information just for the flag?
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« Reply #168 on: July 15, 2016, 07:55:31 am »

Hi guys,It is possible to create NXT node in windows?If yes how please.
And why i can't forge?I have this error.
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« Reply #169 on: July 15, 2016, 07:58:01 am »

Hi guys,It is possible to create NXT node in windows?If yes how please.
And why i can't forge?I have this error.
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Firstly, you need at least 1000 nxt in your account to forge.
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« Reply #170 on: July 15, 2016, 07:59:27 am »

why i can't forge?
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Limit of 1000 NXT on minimum forging balance. ... An account with balance lower than the limit can still lease its balance to another.
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« Reply #171 on: July 15, 2016, 07:59:39 am »

Hi guys,It is possible to create NXT node in windows?If yes how please.
And why i can't forge?I have this error.
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Firstly, you need at least 1000 nxt in your account to forge.

Second, running the nxt.exe starts your local node.
Look at nxt/conf (nxt-default.properties) to see your actual configurations.

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« Reply #172 on: July 15, 2016, 08:17:57 am »

Shall we place the minimum requirement of 1000 NXT to forge at the NXT wiki FAQ? Good info for newbies.
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« Reply #173 on: July 15, 2016, 08:21:02 am »

Hi guys,It is possible to create NXT node in windows?If yes how please.
And why i can't forge?I have this error.
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« Reply #174 on: July 15, 2016, 08:25:20 am »

Hi guys,It is possible to create NXT node in windows?If yes how please.
And why i can't forge?I have this error.
Thanks in advance

Firstly, you need at least 1000 nxt in your account to forge.

Second, running the nxt.exe starts your local node.
Look at nxt/conf (nxt-default.properties) to see your actual configurations.
How to make public node for 5million nxt bounty please?
I have this in mynxt.propertie:
nxt.apiServerCORS=true
nxt.uiServerCORS=true
nxt.myAddress= ardor.ddns.net
nxt.allowedBotHosts=*
nxt.allowedUserHosts=127.0.0.1; localhost;  ardor.ddns.net ; 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1;
nxt.enableAPIserver=true
nxt.apiServerHost=0.0.0.0
ardor.ddns.net is my no-ip address
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« Reply #175 on: July 15, 2016, 08:41:00 am »

Hi guys,It is possible to create NXT node in windows?If yes how please.
And why i can't forge?I have this error.
Thanks in advance

Firstly, you need at least 1000 nxt in your account to forge.

Second, running the nxt.exe starts your local node.
Look at nxt/conf (nxt-default.properties) to see your actual configurations.
How to make public node for 5million nxt bounty please?
I have this in mynxt.propertie:
nxt.apiServerCORS=true
nxt.uiServerCORS=true
nxt.myAddress= ardor.ddns.net
nxt.allowedBotHosts=*
nxt.allowedUserHosts=127.0.0.1; localhost;  ardor.ddns.net ; 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1;
nxt.enableAPIserver=true
nxt.apiServerHost=0.0.0.0
ardor.ddns.net is my no-ip address
Thanks for helping guys

You must open port 7874, port forwarding on your router, open firewall for this port on your computer, vps.
This will make your node public.
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« Reply #176 on: July 15, 2016, 08:53:51 am »

In the nxt-default.properties file, the default setting of the nxt.adminPassword property is empty.
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# Password that should be provided when executing protected (administrative) API
# requests.
# Please choose a decent password here. Preferably, use a password generator.
# Password protection is disabled and password is not needed when the API server
# only listens on the localhost interface, i.e. when
# nxt.apiServerHost=127.0.0.1.
nxt.adminPassword=

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« Reply #177 on: July 15, 2016, 09:35:40 am »

Hi guys,It is possible to create NXT node in windows?If yes how please.
And why i can't forge?I have this error.
Thanks in advance

Firstly, you need at least 1000 nxt in your account to forge.

Second, running the nxt.exe starts your local node.
Look at nxt/conf (nxt-default.properties) to see your actual configurations.
How to make public node for 5million nxt bounty please?
I have this in mynxt.propertie:
nxt.apiServerCORS=true
nxt.uiServerCORS=true
nxt.myAddress= ardor.ddns.net
nxt.allowedBotHosts=*
nxt.allowedUserHosts=127.0.0.1; localhost;  ardor.ddns.net ; 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1;
nxt.enableAPIserver=true
nxt.apiServerHost=0.0.0.0
ardor.ddns.net is my no-ip address
Thanks for helping guys

You must open port 7874, port forwarding on your router, open firewall for this port on your computer, vps.
This will make your node public.
Okay here is my nxt.properties lines:

#### PEER NETWORKING ####

# Announce my IP address/hostname to peers and allow them to share it with other
# peers. If disabled, peer networking servlet will not be started at all.
nxt.shareMyAddress=true

# Port for incoming peer to peer networking requests, if enabled.
nxt.peerServerPort=7874

# Enable UPnP for the peer port.
nxt.enablePeerUPnP=true

# UPnP gateway http read timeout, milliseconds. Set to -1 to disable.
# Default 7000 if not set.
#nxt.upnpGatewayTimeout=7000

# UPnP gateway socket connection timeout, milliseconds. Set to -1 to disable.
# Default 3000 if not set.
#nxt.upnpDiscoverTimeout=3000

# Host interface on which to listen for peer networking requests, default all.
# Use 0.0.0.0 to listen on all interfaces, including IPv6.
nxt.peerServerHost=0.0.0.0

# My externally visible IP address or host name, to be announced to peers.
# It can optionally include a port number, which will also be announced to
# peers, and may be different from nxt.peerServerPort (useful if you do port
# forwarding behind a router).
nxt.myAddress= ardor.ddns.net

# My platform, to be announced to peers.
nxt.myPlatform=NXT-W3JM-AZN7-ESD8-8BXZV

# My hallmark, if available.
nxt.myHallmark=
ardor.ddns.net is my public ip i use this website to check : whatismyipaddress.com
I already port forwarding 7874 on my tp-link router and eset firewall.
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« Reply #178 on: July 15, 2016, 01:06:36 pm »

ardor.ddns.net is my public ip i use this website to check : whatismyipaddress.com
I already port forwarding 7874 on my tp-link router and eset firewall.

There is a website that allows to check if you computer's certain port is opened, you need to google and check there.
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« Reply #179 on: July 15, 2016, 02:08:21 pm »

Now you get bonus coins for:
* hallmarking your node and having weight>0;
* open API
* open API_SSL
* running an archival node

First of all, great initiative!

Then a thought. Should it really be encouraged to run a node with open non-SSL API?
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« Reply #180 on: July 15, 2016, 02:16:09 pm »

Now you get bonus coins for:
* hallmarking your node and having weight>0;
* open API
* open API_SSL
* running an archival node

First of all, great initiative!

Then a thought. Should it really be encouraged to run a node with open non-SSL API?

Yes, why not.

Communication with passphrases to nodes is not recommended in any way. Wrap them up local and use broadcastTransaction to submit verified transaction. Also not-SSL nodes can be used to get data from the blockchain. while SSL is always better than not having it. But not required to get data from website

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« Reply #181 on: July 15, 2016, 02:33:10 pm »

Now you get bonus coins for:
* hallmarking your node and having weight>0;
* open API
* open API_SSL
* running an archival node

First of all, great initiative!

Then a thought. Should it really be encouraged to run a node with open non-SSL API?

Yes, why not.

Communication with passphrases to nodes is not recommended in any way. Wrap them up local and use broadcastTransaction to submit verified transaction. Also not-SSL nodes can be used to get data from the blockchain. while SSL is always better than not having it. But not required to get data from website

You said it yourself: SSL is always better.
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« Reply #182 on: July 15, 2016, 02:55:51 pm »

Now you get bonus coins for:
* hallmarking your node and having weight>0;
* open API
* open API_SSL
* running an archival node

First of all, great initiative!

Then a thought. Should it really be encouraged to run a node with open non-SSL API?

Yes, why not.

Communication with passphrases to nodes is not recommended in any way. Wrap them up local and use broadcastTransaction to submit verified transaction. Also not-SSL nodes can be used to get data from the blockchain. while SSL is always better than not having it. But not required to get data from website

You said it yourself: SSL is always better.

Yes, but not easy for everyone. To encourage we discuss SSL details here: https://nxtforum.org/public-nodes-vpss/method-to-configure-https-for-nxt-public-nodes/

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« Reply #183 on: July 15, 2016, 02:58:43 pm »

54 nodes have joined the Lucky node lottery by now. Yours can be NeXT! ;)
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« Reply #184 on: July 15, 2016, 09:13:07 pm »

54 nodes have joined the Lucky node lottery by now. Yours can be NeXT! ;)

Is there a list of nodes that have joined? I think I configured right, but not sure.
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #185 on: July 15, 2016, 09:58:46 pm »

Now you get bonus coins for:
* hallmarking your node and having weight>0;
* open API
* open API_SSL
* running an archival node

First of all, great initiative!

Then a thought. Should it really be encouraged to run a node with open non-SSL API?

Yes, why not.

Communication with passphrases to nodes is not recommended in any way. Wrap them up local and use broadcastTransaction to submit verified transaction. Also not-SSL nodes can be used to get data from the blockchain. while SSL is always better than not having it. But not required to get data from website

You said it yourself: SSL is always better.

Yes, but not easy for everyone. To encourage we discuss SSL details here: https://nxtforum.org/public-nodes-vpss/method-to-configure-https-for-nxt-public-nodes/

True. Not easy for everyone. I still think it's better to only reward best practice.
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« Reply #186 on: July 16, 2016, 05:48:43 am »

54 nodes have joined the Lucky node lottery by now. Yours can be NeXT! ;)

Is there a list of nodes that have joined? I think I configured right, but not sure.

If you find your node in peerexplorer.com list, you are in.
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« Reply #187 on: July 16, 2016, 03:22:09 pm »

Forging two wallets right now :)
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« Reply #188 on: July 16, 2016, 04:13:08 pm »

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« Reply #189 on: July 16, 2016, 04:41:43 pm »

54 nodes have joined the Lucky node lottery by now. Yours can be NeXT! ;)

Is there a list of nodes that have joined? I think I configured right, but not sure.

If you find your node in peerexplorer.com list, you are in.

Hmm... it's there but it shows OpenAPI false. Is that a problem? I thought I enabled it.

I have this in my nxt.properties

#### API SERVER ####
# Hosts from which to allow http/json API requests, if enabled. Set to * to
# allow all. Can also specify networks in CIDR notation, e.g. 192.168.1.0/24.
nxt.allowedBotHosts=*
nxt.apiServerHost=0.0.0.0

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« Reply #190 on: July 16, 2016, 04:52:18 pm »

54 nodes have joined the Lucky node lottery by now. Yours can be NeXT! ;)

Is there a list of nodes that have joined? I think I configured right, but not sure.

If you find your node in peerexplorer.com list, you are in.

Hmm... it's there but it shows OpenAPI false. Is that a problem? I thought I enabled it.

I have this in my nxt.properties

#### API SERVER ####
# Hosts from which to allow http/json API requests, if enabled. Set to * to
# allow all. Can also specify networks in CIDR notation, e.g. 192.168.1.0/24.
nxt.allowedBotHosts=*
nxt.apiServerHost=0.0.0.0

thanks.

The settings are correct.
Your node has open API if it has OpenAPI or OpenAPI-SSL flag on this page http://peerexplorer.com/nodes

but have a look here:
https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/5-million-nxt-bounty-for-nxt-ardor-forgers/msg221688/#msg221688
you may want to enable both API and API_SSL for maximum bonus points. Peerexplorer won't show both flags though.
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« Reply #191 on: July 16, 2016, 04:54:46 pm »

54 nodes have joined the Lucky node lottery by now. Yours can be NeXT! ;)

Is there a list of nodes that have joined? I think I configured right, but not sure.

If you find your node in peerexplorer.com list, you are in.

Hmm... it's there but it shows OpenAPI false. Is that a problem? I thought I enabled it.

I have this in my nxt.properties

#### API SERVER ####
# Hosts from which to allow http/json API requests, if enabled. Set to * to
# allow all. Can also specify networks in CIDR notation, e.g. 192.168.1.0/24.
nxt.allowedBotHosts=*
nxt.apiServerHost=0.0.0.0

thanks.

The settings are correct.
Your node has open API if it has OpenAPI or OpenAPI-SSL flag on this page http://peerexplorer.com/nodes

but have a look here:
https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/5-million-nxt-bounty-for-nxt-ardor-forgers/msg221688/#msg221688
you may want to enable both API and API_SSL for maximum bonus points. Peerexplorer won't show both flags though.

Hmm... so it doesn't. Do I have to open a port on my router for this to work? I'm not against setting up SSL. I assume I can use a free EncryptAnywhere cert?

Is api access required for the lottery?
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« Reply #192 on: July 16, 2016, 05:00:18 pm »

Hmm... so it doesn't. Do I have to open a port on my router for this to work? I'm not against setting up SSL. I assume I can use a free EncryptAnywhere cert?

Yes, you need to open the port on the router, most likely 7876 if you kept the default port setting, and if you configure both API and API_SSL which have to be configured on two different ports, then the other one too.

I don't have experience with EncryptAnywhere cert unfortunately.
Here is a post by Riker on generation of keystore file:
https://nxtforum.org/nxt-helpdesk/nxt-node-ssl-woes/msg193209/#msg193209

API and API_SSL are not mandatory for the lottery, but they will get you extra points on top of your win.
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« Reply #193 on: July 17, 2016, 04:41:19 pm »

NRS will automatically forward ports if your router supports uPnP.  You can check nxt.log to see if this is being done for your router.

I use LetsEncrypt for my VPS node.  They currently require you to renew the certificate every 90 days.  It supports a stand-alone mode to validate domain ownership so you don't need to run a web server on your VPS (it supports Apache if you are running a web server).

There are other free certificate authorities, although some of them require you to install their root certificate in the browser (which can be a problem if you are running a public node used by others).
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« Reply #194 on: July 18, 2016, 06:16:52 am »

Spanish translation megalodon article. (If you do not see the link don't not worry, we're working on it :))


“La campaña “The Forging Bounty Lottery ” pagará 5 millones en recompensas

http://nxter.org/es/la-campana-the-forging-bounty-lottery-pagara-5-millones-en-recompensas/

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« Reply #195 on: July 18, 2016, 07:31:11 pm »

someone has a node with open-api ssl (port 7876) and cors enabled? just checking because i cant find one. if so pm me please the node address. need to test something.

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« Reply #196 on: July 18, 2016, 07:51:40 pm »

Spanish translation megalodon article. (If you do not see the link don't not worry, we're working on it :))


“La campaña “The Forging Bounty Lottery ” pagará 5 millones en recompensas

http://nxter.org/es/la-campana-the-forging-bounty-lottery-pagara-5-millones-en-recompensas/
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« Reply #197 on: July 18, 2016, 08:35:08 pm »

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« Reply #198 on: July 18, 2016, 09:18:42 pm »

So the reward is runnin? Did anyone get smth othet than that 10k on 14/7?
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« Reply #199 on: July 18, 2016, 09:22:01 pm »

So the reward is runnin? Did anyone get smth othet than that 10k on 14/7?

https://nxtportal.org/accounts/18337650001428593901
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« Reply #200 on: July 18, 2016, 10:52:05 pm »

I connected 1 server (*OpenAPI, *OpenAPI-SSL *Archival) and 2 servers (*OpenAPI, *Archival) for several days in the job, awards not.

here they are http://www.peerexplorer.com/nodes

The accounts awarded are often repeated.

The formula gives preference to large NXT account ?
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« Reply #201 on: July 18, 2016, 11:13:52 pm »

I connected 1 server (*OpenAPI, *OpenAPI-SSL *Archival) and 2 servers (*OpenAPI, *Archival) for several days in the job, awards not.

here they are http://www.peerexplorer.com/nodes

The accounts awarded are often repeated.

The formula gives preference to large NXT account ?

Greetings.
First of all there is variance.

There is no preference in the randomizing formula to which account is picked as a winner.
Once the node is confirmed as 'live' (the lastUpdated reponse), it has joined the lottery round. If you can pm me the NXT account you have in nxt.myPlatform, I'll check if it's recorded in the past lottery logs. Some nodes are switched off for the night, these are excluded from the rounds running while they are offline. The nodes that are online 24/7 join more lotteries and get more rewards.
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« Reply #202 on: July 19, 2016, 07:20:53 am »

Hi  :D
I connected 1 server (*OpenAPI, *OpenAPI-SSL *Archival) and 2 servers (*OpenAPI, *Archival) for several days in the job, awards not.

here they are http://www.peerexplorer.com/nodes

The accounts awarded are often repeated.

The formula gives preference to large NXT account ?
the system give the priority to the big fat accounts because more NXT you have, more is secured the block that you produce
based on the statistics here:
https://nxtportal.org/monitor/
i did a simple calcule that can show you your chance to forge a block...
1% of chance = ~ 3200000 NXT
to know what is your % of chance to earn a bounty prize from the forging system, divide your effective balance by 3.2M NXT...
and if you are blessed and got one, this have to much with the time that Megalodon puch the superfees transactions...

lurker10 lottery is more democratic and the chances on it are not relative or related to the accounts balances... you have just to setup the things like lurker10 said above and you are ready to win  ;D
i got some coins  for the NXT3D project :D
https://nxtportal.org/accounts/12138409354953664726

Thank you all and @++
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« Reply #203 on: July 19, 2016, 07:22:39 am »


Greetings.
First of all there is variance.

There is no preference in the randomizing formula to which account is picked as a winner.
Once the node is confirmed as 'live' (the lastUpdated reponse), it has joined the lottery round. If you can pm me the NXT account you have in nxt.myPlatform, I'll check if it's recorded in the past lottery logs. Some nodes are switched off for the night, these are excluded from the rounds running while they are offline. The nodes that are online 24/7 join more lotteries and get more rewards.
my nodes online 24/7 . I sent to you a message from the nodes.
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« Reply #204 on: July 19, 2016, 07:33:23 am »


Greetings.
First of all there is variance.

There is no preference in the randomizing formula to which account is picked as a winner.
Once the node is confirmed as 'live' (the lastUpdated reponse), it has joined the lottery round. If you can pm me the NXT account you have in nxt.myPlatform, I'll check if it's recorded in the past lottery logs. Some nodes are switched off for the night, these are excluded from the rounds running while they are offline. The nodes that are online 24/7 join more lotteries and get more rewards.
my nodes online 24/7 . I sent to you a message from the nodes.

I've looked them up.
Your node with a domain name is good and joins the lottery each round, just no luck yet.
Your other node has an invalid hallmark and an invalid announced address. You must have changed the address and forgot to change those settings. As a result the NRS server ignores your node for peering: GetInfo: ignoring invalid announced address for y.y.y.y
Solution: fix the announced address and the hallmark to the new node IP. Announced address setting is probably unnecessary, make it empty.

The status of the node is not blacklisted though, not sure exactly what's happening here, you just need to remove the announced address setting completely. Maybe it's because of the invalid hallmark that your node is ignored, the internals of how NRS server communicates to peers are a little obscure to me but as long as the peer doesn't register as invalid for any setting it should be ok. Please fix the hallmark and we'll see if it' enters the next rounds.

71 nodes have joined in the most recent round, it should be all the nodes with myPlatform setting at nxtportal.org/peerexplorer.com but one or two could be missed for some invalid settings.
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« Reply #205 on: July 19, 2016, 07:34:48 am »

Hi  :D
Hi, in my opinion it is necessary to encourage beginners to more advance NXT--> Ardor. Do richer fat wallets -- a step back.

Maybe the Megalodon will change to promote more democratic
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« Reply #206 on: July 19, 2016, 09:15:43 am »

to know what is your % of chance to earn a bounty prize from the forging system, divide your effective balance by 3.2M NXT...
and if you are blessed and got one, this have to much with the time that Megalodon puch the superfees transactions...

Please check the facts before posting. TQ.
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« Reply #207 on: July 19, 2016, 10:00:00 am »

Hi again  :D
to know what is your % of chance to earn a bounty prize from the forging system, divide your effective balance by 3.2M NXT...
and if you are blessed and got one, this have to much with the time that Megalodon puch the superfees transactions...

Please check the facts before posting. TQ.
hmmm?!? what facts? maybe there is things that i don't know ?
my analysis is based on my own experience and the statistics here:
https://nxtportal.org/monitor/

is this stats are not accurate? because if you calculate the % you will find the same as me... mean 1% chances = ~ 2.9M to 3.1M NXT... and my chances to forge the next block are ~0.0035% with an 10223 NXT as effective balance...
for me the facts are this evidences and stats data... if they are false or incorrect i apologize  :D

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« Reply #208 on: July 19, 2016, 10:37:18 am »

Hi again  :D
to know what is your % of chance to earn a bounty prize from the forging system, divide your effective balance by 3.2M NXT...
and if you are blessed and got one, this have to much with the time that Megalodon puch the superfees transactions...

Please check the facts before posting. TQ.
hmmm?!? what facts? maybe there is things that i don't know ?
my analysis is based on my own experience and the statistics here:
https://nxtportal.org/monitor/

is this stats are not accurate? because if you calculate the % you will find the same as me... mean 1% chances = ~ 2.9M to 3.1M NXT... and my chances to forge the next block are ~0.0035% with an 10223 NXT as effective balance...
for me the facts are this evidences and stats data... if they are false or incorrect i apologize  :D

Thank you and @++

You're right about the chance of forging a block according to forging algo being proportional to the account size. But as far as the chance to "earn a bounty prize" goes, it has been stated above that it is skewed to benefit smaller accounts. If you look at the accounts which have actually won bounties so far, their chance is nothing close to being proportional to their account balances (forging power), with an exception of forging pools (which indirectly benefit smaller accounts).

Despite best efforts to achieve this, it is inevitable that occasionally some bounties will land in very large forgers or even forgers that have opted out due to the non-100% certainty of the deterministic forging order, network effects and the fact that not all accounts appearing at the top of the forging order table are online and actually forging during their turn.

But that does not mean that no large accounts will win any bounty because we need to attract them to forge as well. Dependence on very small accounts alone will not be able to significantly lower the base target.

I have contacted several developers to help write a script to automate this, but so far they are all too busy. So, if you or anyone out there are able to help run this campaign in an automated and more transparent manner, please contact me.
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« Reply #209 on: July 19, 2016, 11:11:30 am »

Hi again  :D
...
I have contacted several developers to help write a script to automate this, but so far they are all too busy. So, if you or anyone out there are able to help run this campaign in an automated and more transparent manner, please contact me.
i entirely agree , unfortunately the system is designed like that and can not be used for an equitable distribution...
i was really generous in my calculations because the real equivalent of 1% chance is the total of the active stake / 100 =  ~ 3963361 NXT...

for the DEV, i think lurker10 scripts can do this... its just a value to change in the requests  ;) eg; giving an amount as fees in 1NXT transaction... or dividing the prize by 2 where 1/2 go as money transfert and 1/2 gose as fees...
you have already what is needed  ;D

thank you and @++
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« Reply #210 on: July 19, 2016, 12:03:36 pm »

for the DEV, i think lurker10 scripts can do this... its just a value to change in the requests  ;) eg; giving an amount as fees in 1NXT transaction... or dividing the prize by 2 where 1/2 go as money transfert and 1/2 gose as fees...
you have already what is needed  ;D

Well, to make it skewed to benefit smaller accounts there has to be a way to get the order of next few forgers, I haven't been able to locate this in API calls.
https://nxtportal.org/monitor/ does this somehow, maybe they use something else but the standard Nxt API.
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« Reply #211 on: July 19, 2016, 12:26:15 pm »

Hi again :D
for the DEV, i think lurker10 scripts can do this... its just a value to change in the requests  ;) eg; giving an amount as fees in 1NXT transaction... or dividing the prize by 2 where 1/2 go as money transfert and 1/2 gose as fees...
you have already what is needed  ;D

Well, to make it skewed to benefit smaller accounts there has to be a way to get the order of next few forgers, I haven't been able to locate this in API calls.
https://nxtportal.org/monitor/ does this somehow, maybe they use something else but the standard Nxt API.
i don't think that is important to know the next forger because at the base, all the forgers have the same rights at the same level to get some coins rich as poor :D

if i can suggest you an idea...
why not 3 or 4 rounds types that run in a random way... eg;
round1: give an amount (prize) and pay 1NXT fee
round2: send a message and pay an amount as fee (prize) like Megalodon do manually
round3: do 50/50 of the prize and send 50% to a participant node and pay 50% as fees
round4:....
each round have it's own function... you can change the number to fire a round type...

Thank you and @++
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« Reply #212 on: July 20, 2016, 11:24:38 am »

Let's fix numbers:

Active stake   371'319'660 NXT

Forgers 283

 :)


Looks like we have seen some increase in active forgers & forging stake  ;D . More significantly, the percentage of blocks forged by smaller forgers grouped under "Others" have also increased. It was less than 30% previously.




Congratulations to all the forging bounty winers in the first 8229 blocks since the start of this campaign.
Note that many small forgers have won the bounties. Great effort everyone, keep the forging machines running. We've got quite a way to go!
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« Reply #213 on: July 20, 2016, 12:03:43 pm »

well, still a lot lot left until specific goals :) I'm forging, my raspi will explode :)
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« Reply #214 on: July 20, 2016, 12:20:17 pm »

Great work, shark!  ;)

I am foring since begin 2014 (24/7)! I do get less blocks now everyone is forging. But all for the greater good!  ;D

Maybe you can make smaller fees, like 100 NXT so that more blocks are filled?
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« Reply #215 on: July 20, 2016, 01:04:32 pm »

Active stake   371'319'660 NXT

Forgers 283

And then I found:




So everyone online is forging right now?  ::)
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« Reply #216 on: July 20, 2016, 05:02:49 pm »

Active stake   371'319'660 NXT

Forgers 283

And then I found:




So everyone online is forging right now?  ::)

coincidence, but both are not related :)
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« Reply #217 on: July 21, 2016, 08:05:05 am »

Great work, shark!  ;)

I am foring since begin 2014 (24/7)! I do get less blocks now everyone is forging. But all for the greater good!  ;D

Maybe you can make smaller fees, like 100 NXT so that more blocks are filled?

Way to go, faithful forger!
Currently I can't do the 100NXT fees, without gluing myself in front of the monitor the whole day. But good news is we have devs who are helping automate this. Once done, your suggestion will be implemented.
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« Reply #218 on: July 21, 2016, 04:51:53 pm »

No luck for me one the first round. Let's see how the wheels turn
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« Reply #219 on: July 25, 2016, 11:02:51 am »

Forging Bounty Campaign Update

Good job forgers/stakers/whater-you-prefer-to-call-yourself! We now have 284 online public nodes, 384 active forgers with a collective forging power of over 404M. We still have a long way to go before reaching the stated goals.

From block 870400 to 881723, the bounties were handed out pseudorandomly using a manual process and was partially documented here.
Thanks to ScripterRon who has developed a new GetNextBlockGenerators API for the nrs, and to lurker10 who has developed a script to automate the transactions with the bounty fees, this campaign is now fully automated and transparent.

Lurker10’s “Bounty Script v0.2” file “bounty-0.2.tar.gz” has been uploaded to our very own Data Cloud. Here’s how the Forging Bounty works.

At a random time, the script gets a list of the top 5 deterministic forgers for the next block.
It then checks if the top 1&2 (and sometimes 3) forgers in that list are all eligible to receive the bounty for that block by comparing their Effective Balances (EB) against a preset value (MaxEB). If they are, a Message is sent with an exceptionally high randomly generated fee. If the first on the list is forging, that account will receive the bounty. Otherwise, it goes to the next in line.

For transparency, the Message contains the parameters that determined the forgers eligible to receive that block’s bounty, comprising:
MaxEB: Maximum EB (This helps skew bounty in favour of smaller accounts)
Pool: 1 or 0 (1=Pools always eligible regardless of EB, 0=Pools have no special privileges)
S: 1-3 (Strictness: Number of top 5 deterministic forgers that must be eligible)
MaxFee: Maximum fee bounty for that block
Ratio: Day x N (On certain day of week, multiplier N is applied to MaxFee).

These parameters are changed from time to time to reduce predictability and enhance distribution.
Pool operators who have not registered their forging addresses are encouraged to do so to benefit from exemption of MaxEB.

TLDR version: Smaller accounts forging 24x7 have a good chance of receiving bounties. Accounts with EB > MaxEB receive the bounties if the smaller eligible accounts missed their opportunity to forge. It is quite futile for larger accounts to split into many smaller accounts because MaxEB & Strictness (S) parameters are changed sporadically AND the fact that deterministic forging order of the network favours a single account versus multiple accounts with same EB.

Account Sending out Messages with Bounty Fees: NXT-G98N-SZGX-Z8ZA-9HNY6 (Forging Bounty Auto)
Funding Account : NXT-HH9F-JMRB-6HRD-HD5ZW (Forging Bootstrapper)
Funding Mechanism: Automatically done using NRS Account Property & Funding Monitor Smart Transactions.
Lurker10's Lucky Node Lottery account NXT-8F28-EDVE-LPPX-HY4E7 is also funded by NXT-HH9F-JMRB-6HRD-HD5ZW using Funding Monitor.

A list of all automated transactions (including test txs) until block 885762 is available here. This is a static page and will not update.
A list of most recent Bounty transactions is available at http://192.3.196.10:7876/stats.html This list is always updated.
Since the start of Ardor snapshot period, over 80,000 NXT has been distributed. Here's the most recent snapshot showing last 50 forgers awarded the bounties.

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« Reply #220 on: July 25, 2016, 12:09:26 pm »

Forging Bounty Campaign Update

Good job forgers/stakers/whater-you-prefer-to-call-yourself! We now have 284 online public nodes, 384 active forgers with a collective forging power of over 404M. We still have a long way to go before reaching the stated goals.

From block 870400 to 881723, the bounties were handed out pseudorandomly using a manual process and was partially documented here.
Thanks to ScripterRon who has developed a new GetNextBlockGenerators API for the nrs, and to lurker10 who has developed a script to automate the transactions with the bounty fees, this campaign is now fully automated and transparent.

Lurker10’s “Bounty Script v0.2” file “bounty-0.2.tar.gz” has been uploaded to our very own Data Cloud. Here’s how the Forging Bounty works.

At a random time, the script gets a list of the top 5 deterministic forgers for the next block.
It then checks if the top 1&2 (and sometimes 3) forgers in that list are all eligible to receive the bounty for that block by comparing their Effective Balances (EB) against a preset value (MaxEB). If they are, a Message is sent with an exceptionally high randomly generated fee. If the first on the list is forging, that account will receive the bounty. Otherwise, it goes to the next in line.

For transparency, the Message contains the parameters that determined the forgers eligible to receive that block’s bounty, comprising:
MaxEB: Maximum EB (This helps skew bounty in favour of smaller accounts)
Pool: 1 or 0 (1=Pools always eligible regardless of EB, 0=Pools have no special privileges)
S: 1-3 (Strictness: Number of top 5 deterministic forgers that must be eligible)
MaxFee: Maximum fee bounty for that block
Ratio: Day x N (On certain day of week, multiplier N is applied to MaxFee).

These parameters are changed from time to time to reduce predictability and enhance distribution.
Pool operators who have not registered their forging addresses are encouraged to do so to benefit from exemption of MaxEB.

TLDR version: Smaller accounts forging 24x7 have a good chance of receiving bounties. Accounts with EB > MaxEB receive the bounties if the smaller eligible accounts missed their opportunity to forge. It is quite futile for larger accounts to split into many smaller accounts because MaxEB & Strictness (S) parameters are changed sporadically AND the fact that deterministic forging order of the network favours a single account versus multiple accounts with same EB.

Account Sending out Messages with Bounty Fees: NXT-G98N-SZGX-Z8ZA-9HNY6 (Forging Bounty Auto)
Funding Account : NXT-HH9F-JMRB-6HRD-HD5ZW (Forging Bootstrapper)
Funding Mechanism: Automatically done using NRS Account Property & Funding Monitor Smart Transactions.
Lurker10's Lucky Node Lottery account NXT-8F28-EDVE-LPPX-HY4E7 is also funded by NXT-HH9F-JMRB-6HRD-HD5ZW using Funding Monitor.

A list of all automated transactions (including test txs) until block 885762 is available here. This is a static page and will not update.
A list of most recent Bounty transactions is available at http://192.3.196.10:7876/stats.html This list is always updated.
Since the start of Ardor snapshot period, over 80,000 NXT has been distributed. Here's the most recent snapshot showing last 50 forgers awarded the bounties.



Thanks for the info sharky!  ;D
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« Reply #221 on: July 25, 2016, 03:19:24 pm »

Very good job! :D

And by the way I saw a lot of people stuck at the node configuration.

Maybe we should package a 'nxt-default-for-public-node.properties' in the next version?  ::)
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« Reply #222 on: July 25, 2016, 05:08:33 pm »

Very good job! :D

And by the way I saw a lot of people stuck at the node configuration.

Maybe we should package a 'nxt-default-for-public-node.properties' in the next version?  ::)

yes please! -- and some way to validate you're doing the right thing for n00bs like myself  :P
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #223 on: July 30, 2016, 03:30:07 am »

Hey everyone , I have been away for a few years.
I just started the first node in New Zealand. I am running a Rasberry Pie.
(look for New Zealand on peerexplorer)

I have been running for a week now. When I have to reboot I will try and get Open API working.
I think I have most settings correct and Port Forwarding appears to be ok. I need to dig a little deeper and see what is happening.

I would really like NXT and Ardor to succeed and gain traction.
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« Reply #224 on: July 30, 2016, 09:34:02 am »

80 nodes have been regular participants of the Lucky node lottery in the past few days. We're within a spitting distance of one hundred, keep adding them! :)
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« Reply #225 on: July 31, 2016, 11:18:02 pm »

There's currently around 400M active stake according to nxtportal.
5M has been donated.
400 / 5 = 80

So basically, anyone can increase their holding by 1/80'th (or 1,25%) of their current NXT holdings by forging, assuming the algorithm does a fair job being somewhat random, and the active stake being around 400. It might even be more if some big whales choose to opt out.
With opt out whales the math should be (400 - opt out whales that forge) / 5

I was talking to some friends of mine who I lured into lately, who claim to follow what's going on, but they had missed this. Is this something only we "insiders" know about and really understand what it means?
Maybe we should push this more on the forum/bitcointalk/slack/polobox to get more people aware.
And by that I mean in a way that non-NXT'er can comprehend, as in:
"Someone is giving out free NXT, if you already own NXT and put it to work. Here's a guide how you can participate."
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« Reply #226 on: August 01, 2016, 05:44:50 am »

There was an issue with the node last night, I've had to force run one missed lottery round.
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« Reply #227 on: August 05, 2016, 05:25:00 am »

I am running a node and have been forging for 2 weeks now. I would like to participate in these bounties and would like to hallmark my node but my isp provider only runs dynamic ip addresses. My external ip changes every 1 or 2 days. Is there anything I can do?
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« Reply #228 on: August 05, 2016, 05:57:20 am »

I am running a node and have been forging for 2 weeks now. I would like to participate in these bounties and would like to hallmark my node but my isp provider only runs dynamic ip addresses. My external ip changes every 1 or 2 days. Is there anything I can do?

Dynamic DNS configuration:
You must sign up for a dynamic dns service:
http://freeddns.noip.com/
you will get your own dns name after you have signed up, for instance: beammeup.ddns.net
They will offer auto-updater software that you need to install which will automatically re-map your dns name to the ip address every time ISP changes the ip.

Node configuration:
- Create a hallmark for your dns name instead of for ip, the hallmark goes to nxt.myHallmark property.
- Place your dns name in nxt.myAddress property.
nxt.myAddress=beammeup.ddns.net
in the nxt/conf/nxt.properties file.

Other settings:
open port 7874 for the world, and port 7876 for openAPI, see the link in my signature for directions to configure other settings and services.
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« Reply #229 on: August 05, 2016, 08:34:33 am »

OK great seems to be working alright. Not sure how to set up the noip to start when I boot my computer though
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« Reply #230 on: August 05, 2016, 11:55:00 am »

Hello,

I have a problem, I think everything is well configured but do not appear in the lottery draw or win nsc, attached the conf file, thanks.

nsc.now.im:7876/nxt?requestType=getPeer&peer=%2081.203.18.127
nsc.nxt.org:7876/nxt?requestType=getPeers&active=true

www57.zippyshare.com/v/MpBxgd5A/file.html

Post data: I have nxt.admin.password
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« Reply #231 on: August 05, 2016, 01:11:20 pm »

Hello,

I have a problem, I think everything is well configured but do not appear in the lottery draw or win nsc, attached the conf file, thanks.

nsc.now.im:7876/nxt?requestType=getPeer&peer=%2081.203.18.127
nsc.nxt.org:7876/nxt?requestType=getPeers&active=true

www57.zippyshare.com/v/MpBxgd5A/file.html

Post data: I have nxt.admin.password

I looked up your IP. It does participate in the Lucky node lottery. Be patient.
As for NSC, try asking in https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=9828.0
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« Reply #232 on: August 09, 2016, 06:04:03 am »

The Lucky node lottery will be running 3 extra rounds at 20:00, 0:00, 4:00 UTC for the daily total of 15 rounds.
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« Reply #233 on: August 13, 2016, 05:17:02 pm »

Breaking news!
We have just hit the 100 nodes milestone for the Lucky node lottery. Are you in? ;)
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« Reply #234 on: August 13, 2016, 11:54:16 pm »

Breaking news!
We have just hit the 100 nodes milestone for the Lucky node lottery. Are you in? ;)

Great news! Thanks for all your work! Nxt is getting stronger everyday.
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« Reply #235 on: August 15, 2016, 02:01:45 pm »

The Lucky node lottery account is dry. I've messaged Megalodon, waiting for him to fund the account and payouts will go on, don't stop nodes yet :)
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« Reply #236 on: August 15, 2016, 02:10:02 pm »

Thank you lurker10 for your effort! I really have to say that I personally find your "Lucky Node Lottery" the most rewarding program at the moment. It is easy (you get the NXT straight into your account), it is not completely predictable (always fun and motivating to see a surprise transaction) but you still win frequently enough to keep you in the game (usually at least once a week).

I feel that is part of the reason why we see the number of nodes increasing while the number of forgers actually has been stalling for the last three weeks. If we take a look at the stats of the big bounty program the average Eff. Balance is 5,820,871 NXT and the majority of winning accounts have at least 1 million NXT. Since there are only round about 150 accounts with more than 1 million NXT in it, the goal to increase the active forging power to 65% seems a bit unrealistic with this kind of distribution pattern.
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« Reply #237 on: August 15, 2016, 02:16:46 pm »

Thank you lurker10 for your effort! I really have to say that I personally find your "Lucky Node Lottery" the most rewarding program at the moment. It is easy (you get the NXT straight into your account), it is not completely predictable (always fun and motivating to see a surprise transaction in your account) but you still win frequently enough to keep you in the game (usually at least once a week).

I feel that is part of the reason why we see the number of nodes increasing while the number of forgers actually has been stalling for the last three weeks. If we take a look at the stats of the big bounty program the average Eff. Balance is 5,820,871 NXT and the majority of winning accounts have at least 1 million NXT. Since there are only round about 150 accounts with more than 1 million NXT in it, the goal to increase the active forging power to 65% seems a bit unrealistic with this kind of distribution pattern.

All credit goes to Megalodon who makes this possible.

Perhaps other whales can provide temporary funds while we're running on fumes here. The lottery jar account is in my signature. Thank you.
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« Reply #238 on: August 16, 2016, 11:11:35 am »

The Lucky node account is funded again. About 15 payments were missed, going to force send them over the next few hours.
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« Reply #239 on: August 17, 2016, 10:34:21 am »

Forging bounty bot get crazy.
Will return fees after it stops sending prizes in my blocks.
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« Reply #240 on: August 17, 2016, 10:44:31 am »

Forging bounty bot get crazy.
Will return fees after it stops sending prizes in my blocks.

Yes, it happened once in block 916091. There was a bug which is fixed in v0.5, thanks.
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« Reply #241 on: August 19, 2016, 09:51:42 pm »

Hello! Are forgers in the pool NXT-K5KL-23DJ-3XLK-22222 eligible for these generous rewards? kind thanks
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« Reply #242 on: August 21, 2016, 02:04:49 pm »

Hello! Are forgers in the pool NXT-K5KL-23DJ-3XLK-22222 eligible for these generous rewards? kind thanks


You'll have to check with the pool operator
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« Reply #243 on: August 22, 2016, 08:39:53 am »

The Lucky node lottery will be running 18 times, +3 from today.
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« Reply #244 on: August 22, 2016, 08:29:49 pm »

thank you for this opportunity...
got some good payouts
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« Reply #245 on: August 25, 2016, 08:36:30 am »

Works great , so happy to se my node running and come up in (peerexplorer.com/nodes)

Nice to be part of it and start to get some NXT for POS


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« Reply #246 on: August 25, 2016, 06:37:56 pm »

why i can't forge?
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Limit of 1000 NXT on minimum forging balance. ... An account with balance lower than the limit can still lease its balance to another.

I've the same issue, but I do have 1000+ NXT and 1440+ confirmations for this transaction.
Are there any other requirements to forge? Or is there anything else I need to do? (I did log in using my passphrase if that matters)

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« Reply #247 on: August 25, 2016, 08:43:44 pm »

Just now I see all transactions have got 1440+ confirmations and now I can start forging.
Don't understand, but at least it works now :)
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« Reply #248 on: August 26, 2016, 11:45:00 am »

Lucky node lottery will run every hour (24 rounds a day) from tonight. Thanks to Megalodon.
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« Reply #249 on: August 28, 2016, 11:16:03 am »

There are still sell orders for NSC Assets, the predecessor of NSC Coins in the Monetary System. Maybe Megalodon could be so nice to reward those people by putting a buy order in? There is only a total of 9827,98 NXT asked in the sell book. Would be a nice gesture to close the NSC asset period and move on to NSC MS Coins.  :)
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #250 on: August 29, 2016, 01:23:16 am »

Hello everybody of NXT community. I am new here. I successfully started forging some thousands of NXT.
I am connected and forging. Do I need to do anything else to be eligible for the bounty? Thanks in advance.
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #251 on: August 29, 2016, 06:11:34 am »

Hello everybody of NXT community. I am new here. I successfully started forging some thousands of NXT.
I am connected and forging. Do I need to do anything else to be eligible for the bounty? Thanks in advance.

No, you don't have to do anything. The high bounty fees are distributed random in the blocks. The more NXT you have, the more likely it is that you are chosen to generate the next block.
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #252 on: August 29, 2016, 04:16:16 pm »

Hello everybody of NXT community. I am new here. I successfully started forging some thousands of NXT.
I am connected and forging. Do I need to do anything else to be eligible for the bounty? Thanks in advance.

No, you don't have to do anything. The high bounty fees are distributed random in the blocks. The more NXT you have, the more likely it is that you are chosen to generate the next block.

Thanks for the explanation. I am a minor holder, so, even with this lottery, it would never pay out the energy costs in my country of having an idle computer on, but I wanted to support the initiative anyway.

As I am using my home computer for that, I cannot leave it on 24/7, but I can forge during some hours every evening and be a node during this window of time. Is this of any help to NXT? And, out of curiosity on the tech issues on NXT PoS: will I be eligible to forging rewards and bounty rewards for that (let's say I leave it on 4 hours everyday, would my chances be a sixth compared to a 24/7 forging)?
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« Reply #253 on: August 29, 2016, 04:34:36 pm »

As I am using my home computer for that, I cannot leave it on 24/7, but I can forge during some hours every evening and be a node during this window of time. Is this of any help to NXT? And, out of curiosity on the tech issues on NXT PoS: will I be eligible to forging rewards and bounty rewards for that (let's say I leave it on 4 hours everyday, would my chances be a sixth compared to a 24/7 forging)?

You can receive Lucky node project rewards if your node is a public node. If it is a public node and you have your address in the nxt.myPlatform property you may be lucky to receive rewards even when you run it only a few hours a day. Follow the link in my signature for details.
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« Reply #254 on: August 30, 2016, 01:53:18 pm »

There are still sell orders for NSC Assets, the predecessor of NSC Coins in the Monetary System. Maybe Megalodon could be so nice to reward those people by putting a buy order in? There is only a total of 9827,98 NXT asked in the sell book. Would be a nice gesture to close the NSC asset period and move on to NSC MS Coins.  :)

Done :)
https://mynxt.info/transaction/12848783472283322868
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« Reply #255 on: August 30, 2016, 06:31:36 pm »

There are still sell orders for NSC Assets, the predecessor of NSC Coins in the Monetary System. Maybe Megalodon could be so nice to reward those people by putting a buy order in? There is only a total of 9827,98 NXT asked in the sell book. Would be a nice gesture to close the NSC asset period and move on to NSC MS Coins.  :)

Done :)
https://mynxt.info/transaction/12848783472283322868

Thanks for this action. You are great for Nxt!  :-*
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« Reply #256 on: August 30, 2016, 08:00:22 pm »

Sorry but my '1NXT' sell order does not get executed.
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #257 on: September 08, 2016, 12:41:44 am »



Kind of sad looking at the last 100 forging list winners. Only 14 out of the 100 accounts were below 500k and only 4 accounts with less then 100k. Whats the point of more forging power if the little guy does not have a chance? Do you think he will even care to try?
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« Reply #258 on: September 08, 2016, 08:08:36 am »

Kind of sad looking at the last 100 forging list winners. Only 14 out of the 100 accounts were below 500k and only 4 accounts with less then 100k. Whats the point of more forging power if the little guy does not have a chance? Do you think he will even care to try?

People who have invested more of their money in Nxt are likely to get rewarded more, that's logical don't you think? In Bitcoin (or other PoW-coins) a small miner can't mine any blocks, but in Nxt even a small investor can start forging right away.
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« Reply #259 on: September 08, 2016, 08:22:29 am »

Also pools are eligible for the rewards, although I don't know which pools are joining.
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« Reply #260 on: September 08, 2016, 11:12:14 am »

Kind of sad looking at the last 100 forging list winners. Only 14 out of the 100 accounts were below 500k and only 4 accounts with less then 100k. Whats the point of more forging power if the little guy does not have a chance? Do you think he will even care to try?

People who have invested more of their money in Nxt are likely to get rewarded more, that's logical don't you think? In Bitcoin (or other PoW-coins) a small miner can't mine any blocks, but in Nxt even a small investor can start forging right away.

The point of the bounty was more forging power. If you have a lot of nxt to forge with your going make extra nxt no matter what. All this shows is the rich will get richer. Pools I can see need to get the reward, but some rich guy just getting richer while the little guy who would benefit from it the most and get nxt off the exchanges does not. 353 active forgers right now is not a lot.
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« Reply #261 on: September 08, 2016, 01:04:45 pm »

Is this bounty system still ongoing?
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« Reply #262 on: September 08, 2016, 01:24:48 pm »

Yea

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« Reply #263 on: September 08, 2016, 03:19:54 pm »

Is this bounty system still ongoing?

You can view the transactions from the Forging account:
mynxt.info/account/NXT-G98N-SZGX-Z8ZA-9HNY6

Still running  :)
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« Reply #264 on: September 18, 2016, 02:20:42 pm »

Well it was at a all time high of around 400 forgers now its down to 332.
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« Reply #265 on: September 20, 2016, 07:00:52 pm »

My Pi Zero Node joined the forging army yesterday: NXT-PQJ4-3THC-4956-8WWWJ
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« Reply #266 on: September 21, 2016, 08:05:06 am »

My Pi Zero Node joined the forging army yesterday: NXT-PQJ4-3THC-4956-8WWWJ

Welcome Node!  ;)
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« Reply #267 on: September 28, 2016, 11:21:26 am »

My node on 45.55.39.125 started and forging. NXT-CPYT-K8BR-CCUH-63JBK
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« Reply #268 on: September 28, 2016, 11:45:46 am »

My node on 45.55.39.125 started and forging. NXT-CPYT-K8BR-CCUH-63JBK

You need to put your address in the nxt.myPlatform setting though if you want to join the Lucky node lottery. See the link in my signature to learn how.
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« Reply #269 on: September 28, 2016, 11:59:10 am »

My node on 45.55.39.125 started and forging. NXT-CPYT-K8BR-CCUH-63JBK

You need to put your address in the nxt.myPlatform setting though if you want to join the Lucky node lottery. See the link in my signature to learn how.

Thanks for info! Done.
Sure node is hallmarked and OpenAPI.
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« Reply #270 on: September 28, 2016, 12:47:57 pm »

My node on 45.55.39.125 started and forging. NXT-CPYT-K8BR-CCUH-63JBK

You need to put your address in the nxt.myPlatform setting though if you want to join the Lucky node lottery. See the link in my signature to learn how.

Thanks for info! Done.
Sure node is hallmarked and OpenAPI.

And remember to restart the node for changes to be visible on the network ;)
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« Reply #271 on: September 28, 2016, 02:48:35 pm »

My node on 45.55.39.125 started and forging. NXT-CPYT-K8BR-CCUH-63JBK

You need to put your address in the nxt.myPlatform setting though if you want to join the Lucky node lottery. See the link in my signature to learn how.

Thanks for info! Done.
Sure node is hallmarked and OpenAPI.

And remember to restart the node for changes to be visible on the network ;)

Strange. I restarted node several times, but now i see on peerexplorer that Platform really didn't changed.
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« Reply #272 on: September 28, 2016, 03:43:50 pm »

Strange. I restarted node several times, but now i see on peerexplorer that Platform really didn't changed.

peerexplorer takes time to show changes.
You're good now for the node lottery, I checked and your node platform shows your NXT account.
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« Reply #273 on: September 28, 2016, 05:56:49 pm »

My Pi Zero Node joined the forging army yesterday: NXT-PQJ4-3THC-4956-8WWWJ

which tutorial did u follow to set this up? it just runs on raspbian?
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« Reply #274 on: September 28, 2016, 08:55:13 pm »


The point of the bounty was more forging power. If you have a lot of nxt to forge with your going make extra nxt no matter what. All this shows is the rich will get richer. Pools I can see need to get the reward, but some rich guy just getting richer while the little guy who would benefit from it the most and get nxt off the exchanges does not. 353 active forgers right now is not a lot.

I remember when it was <200 forgers.
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« Reply #275 on: September 28, 2016, 09:30:53 pm »

what are some incentives one can do to kinda even out the playing field. it is true that the "rich" get richer, but regardless its such a small amount currently it doesnt really mean much. having that we know about this issue, what are some solutions we can come up with?

bottom line, it just doesnt "seem fair" to those with low amounts. but being fair is subjective. what is a good amount where it is fair? everyone will have a different number.

make it so that anyone with more than 1 million nxt cant forge that easily? but nothing stops them from making multiple machines with smaller amounts, that could be a possible solution. make the rich do extra work if they want to forge with high amounts by having them host more NODES on the network. if there was a max forge amount per node, this would require large holders to split their coins into multiple nodes, hence increasing node count and decentralization.

having that nxt is still in its infancy and low amount of users, we have the potential to have an upper hand because of this. this gives us more time to come up with solutions to problems like the "fairness" of POS systems.

What other solutions can you come up with?

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« Reply #276 on: September 28, 2016, 10:11:17 pm »

Strange. I restarted node several times, but now i see on peerexplorer that Platform really didn't changed.

peerexplorer takes time to show changes.
You're good now for the node lottery, I checked and your node platform shows your NXT account.

Thanks! I made node also archival. Plan to add one more node soon.
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« Reply #277 on: September 29, 2016, 09:03:53 am »

Strange. I restarted node several times, but now i see on peerexplorer that Platform really didn't changed.

peerexplorer takes time to show changes.
You're good now for the node lottery, I checked and your node platform shows your NXT account.

Thanks! I made node also archival. Plan to add one more node soon.

Also I had increase to address with bigger amount for forging on 45.55.39.125. New address - NXT-LQG5-8G55-L22C-86S4Y.
Sure hallmark and myPlatform also changed.
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« Reply #278 on: October 01, 2016, 02:07:09 pm »

what are some incentives one can do to kinda even out the playing field. it is true that the "rich" get richer, but regardless its such a small amount currently it doesnt really mean much. having that we know about this issue, what are some solutions we can come up with?

bottom line, it just doesnt "seem fair" to those with low amounts. but being fair is subjective. what is a good amount where it is fair? everyone will have a different number.

make it so that anyone with more than 1 million nxt cant forge that easily? but nothing stops them from making multiple machines with smaller amounts, that could be a possible solution. make the rich do extra work if they want to forge with high amounts by having them host more NODES on the network. if there was a max forge amount per node, this would require large holders to split their coins into multiple nodes, hence increasing node count and decentralization.

having that nxt is still in its infancy and low amount of users, we have the potential to have an upper hand because of this. this gives us more time to come up with solutions to problems like the "fairness" of POS systems.

What other solutions can you come up with?

I like this solution.  I have two machines forging right now.  If the max an account can have to forge is say 1M nxt, the "little guy" would stand a better chance of getting a block.  Also, while it's true that the rich get richer, the poor also get richer, just not as fast.  People need to stop worrying about what others are doing and stop being jealous of others' success.  The "rich" got that way because they recognized BCNext's vision and supported it early.  They earned their riches and we should applaud them.
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« Reply #279 on: October 08, 2016, 08:03:49 am »

Price of NXT has been declining and Lucky node rewards haven't been as sweet as in summer. Megalodon thinks it a good idea to increase them, so starting today payouts will be raised by 50%. Keep them nodes online :)
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« Reply #280 on: October 08, 2016, 08:15:47 am »

Great! Would be cool with another Nxt update that forgers automatically transfer a percentage chosen (minimum 1percent for example) to the lottery account, so it Doesnt depend on megalodon or someone else.
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #281 on: October 08, 2016, 06:09:49 pm »

Price of NXT has been declining and Lucky node rewards haven't been as sweet as in summer. Megalodon thinks it a good idea to increase them, so starting today payouts will be raised by 50%. Keep them nodes online :)

Great!! Shared!

https://twitter.com/blockchainguide/status/784816420311949313
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« Reply #282 on: October 08, 2016, 07:30:40 pm »

Price of NXT has been declining and Lucky node rewards haven't been as sweet as in summer. Megalodon thinks it a good idea to increase them, so starting today payouts will be raised by 50%. Keep them nodes online :)

Great!! Shared!

https://twitter.com/blockchainguide/status/784816420311949313

It's the rewards for running public nodes (nxt.myPlatform setting) that are raised not the forging fee bounties, but it was close :)
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« Reply #283 on: October 08, 2016, 07:30:47 pm »

I have tried to make a node, but when I add the lines in the nxt conf it wants me to redownload the blockchain.
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« Reply #284 on: October 08, 2016, 07:41:42 pm »

I have tried to make a node, but when I add the lines in the nxt conf it wants me to redownload the blockchain.

This is very unusual.
You may want to download the blockchain from peerexplorer.com
The minimalistic configuration is very simple:
nxt-default.properties file should not be touched at all.

create nxt.properties file in the same directory and put one line it in, pointing to your NXT address:
nxt.myPlatform=NXT-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXXX

when you're sure it's working (you can find your node at nxtportal.org peers and peerexplorer.com), start adding other settings.
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« Reply #285 on: October 08, 2016, 07:51:03 pm »

Yup tried it a few dozen times now. I make the file add my nxt info. Go to start nxt server and it does not come up fully, nxt web wallet comes up and says running in api mode downloading blockchain. I have tried to do the node thing over the past few months and been stuck with this.
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« Reply #286 on: October 08, 2016, 08:39:22 pm »

Price of NXT has been declining and Lucky node rewards haven't been as sweet as in summer. Megalodon thinks it a good idea to increase them, so starting today payouts will be raised by 50%. Keep them nodes online :)

Great!! Shared!

https://twitter.com/blockchainguide/status/784816420311949313

It's the rewards for running public nodes (nxt.myPlatform setting) that are raised not the forging fee bounties, but it was close :)

Oh shit. These two things are a bit mixed here.
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« Reply #287 on: October 11, 2016, 06:38:27 am »

Just found out about this via Martis on Slack Excited to try it. Just re-starting my node with the address in the new file. Cheers.
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« Reply #288 on: October 13, 2016, 10:09:44 am »

Nodes will receive ARDR tokens accumulated in the Lucky node lottery account.
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #289 on: October 13, 2016, 12:47:10 pm »

Nodes will receive ARDR tokens accumulated in the Lucky node lottery account.

How will they be divided?
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Re: 5 Million NXT bounty for Nxt & Ardor Forgers
« Reply #290 on: October 13, 2016, 02:11:31 pm »

Nodes will receive ARDR tokens accumulated in the Lucky node lottery account.

How will they be divided?

They are sent randomly as normal rewards, adjusted for price on the exchange.