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Re: [PRE-ANN] Time to go further. New Chain is coming.
« Reply #60 on: February 20, 2016, 10:26:34 am »

I don't feel like stepping into another cryptocurrency. Nxt created something great and keeps improving and has the guts to change (2.0) the core. I like that much better than another chain. I will not follow. Sad you leave Nxt. But wish you the best.
wanted to give a more detailed reply
but it all comes down to this - let a hundred flowers bloom.
Current NXT direction is abysmal in my opinion, but if you guys prosper I'll be happy too.
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« Reply #61 on: February 20, 2016, 10:45:20 am »

Very interesting discussion.

ETH is very cool, but we need alternative approaches too. I can see that in a year after ETH launch no one managed to code an AE analogue.

It is true, there are no working asset exchange on ETH after a year (except one in beta). It blows my mind. This should be mandatory.

What about creating your tokens and apps on ETH using the scripting language ? It is supposed to grant flexibility and fast development.

We will revolutionize crowdfunding, and the way open source development is working. I'm already talking to several payment systems who will back up fiat assets. What we will be doing will be really close to real world economy, will be based on our NXT experience, will have a very clear focus on what people REALLY need, and will address their urgent demands.

I see what you mean.

Hey coinomat, befor you start to get to work I would advice to take a look at eMunie. It is in developent for about 3 years now and is set to be released in the next couple of month. As of now, it is the most advanced cryptocurrency and platform IMO.  It also has solved the problem of scaling, almost instant confirmation times, an DEX, a market place, ENS, a reputation system, messaging, chatting...well just take a look for your self.
This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mue6y4iVHNE
and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S_zHtlIpeA
will show you a bit of the client.
I think its worth checking, before starting a new project, might save you lots of hard work and resources.
Cool stuff. I must say I remember it was gonna launch like a year ago or so :) But I'll check it ouf of course, looks promising indeed.

eMunie was announced about a year before Nxt and got delayed and canceled multiple times, for years.
The main dev got the funds stolen once. I lost my interest in it back then.

- At launch fiat and BTC assets are supported.  Fiat assets are backed by existing fiat payment systems/banks.
- Asset to asset swap/trading is supported on the core level, which allows to offer quasi stock exchange user experience, with trading against fiat currencies.
- User-friendly interface resembling online banking or online broker interfaces. Realized as a browser plugin.
Basically users have a full-scale crowdfunding/trading platform right at launch, with native fiat currencies support. User experience is close to usual financial website experience.

Perfect. That's exactly what most people need and when I say "most people", I'm talking about people outside of the cryptocurrency world.
Of course, we, user of cryptos do not care about FIAT and sometimes we don't even care about BTC but we cannot expect to grow any time soon.
People don't care about the tech or even the vision, they want to use something right here, right now. Without having to understand it. Without installing anything.

4. Reputation system is considered to be vital, and will be realized soon after the launch. It will be based on voting system which is an integral part of the core. Also account activity will be used to define the account karma (issued assets, transactions volume etc).

This remind me of eMunie.

5. Scalability is considered to be the main problem which will need to be tackled eventually, and some basic scalability improvements will have to be made on the core level right from the start. 

NXT 2.0 is on it...
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« Reply #62 on: February 20, 2016, 11:01:06 am »

I'm with you, coinomat. I've been annoyed with the direction NXT is taking for quite some time and I think you're doing the right thing!
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« Reply #63 on: February 20, 2016, 11:14:54 am »


Very interesting discussion.

ETH is very cool, but we need alternative approaches too. I can see that in a year after ETH launch no one managed to code an AE analogue.

It is true, there are no working asset exchange on ETH after a year (except one in beta). It blows my mind. This should be mandatory.

What about creating your tokens and apps on ETH using the scripting language ? It is supposed to grant flexibility and fast development.

We will revolutionize crowdfunding, and the way open source development is working. I'm already talking to several payment systems who will back up fiat assets. What we will be doing will be really close to real world economy, will be based on our NXT experience, will have a very clear focus on what people REALLY need, and will address their urgent demands.

I see what you mean.

Hey coinomat, befor you start to get to work I would advice to take a look at eMunie. It is in developent for about 3 years now and is set to be released in the next couple of month. As of now, it is the most advanced cryptocurrency and platform IMO.  It also has solved the problem of scaling, almost instant confirmation times, an DEX, a market place, ENS, a reputation system, messaging, chatting...well just take a look for your self.
This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mue6y4iVHNE
and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S_zHtlIpeA
will show you a bit of the client.
I think its worth checking, before starting a new project, might save you lots of hard work and resources.
Cool stuff. I must say I remember it was gonna launch like a year ago or so :) But I'll check it ouf of course, looks promising indeed.

eMunie was announced about a year before Nxt and got delayed and canceled multiple times, for years.
The main dev got the funds stolen once. I lost my interest in it back then.
Don't get me wrong, ETH is cool, that's just Bitcoin taken to the extreme, all ideas like scripting are realized to their fullest.
But is still has problems, it will NOT be the only chain. Turing completeness the way it is realized in ETH can not only widen the scope of scripting language usage but also narrow it, since it has to run on all chain nodes. and you can't do anything on eth without contracts actually, you have to code AE using contracts. is it the right approach? who knows. You can only speculate. time will tell. But meanwhile we have to pursue other directions too.
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« Reply #64 on: February 20, 2016, 01:25:17 pm »


Hey coinomat, befor you start to get to work I would advice to take a look at eMunie. It is in developent for about 3 years now and is set to be released in the next couple of month. As of now, it is the most advanced cryptocurrency and platform IMO.  It also has solved the problem of scaling, almost instant confirmation times, an DEX, a market place, ENS, a reputation system, messaging, chatting...well just take a look for your self.
This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mue6y4iVHNE
and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S_zHtlIpeA
will show you a bit of the client.
I think its worth checking, before starting a new project, might save you lots of hard work and resources.
Cool stuff. I must say I remember it was gonna launch like a year ago or so :) But I'll check it ouf of course, looks promising indeed.

eMunie was announced about a year before Nxt and got delayed and canceled multiple times, for years.
The main dev got the funds stolen once. I lost my interest in it back then.




Yes, that is true it was announced before Nxt and is in closed Beta since then. In those two and a halve years it was constantly improved (in closed beta).
It is also true that release was delayed several times, and unfortunately it is not guaranteed that it will not happen again this time.
Yes the Funds got stolen, which is very sad, though I must add that  Dan (the developer) payed every one back out of his own pocket.

If you lost your interest, well that's fine and up to you. Though I am quite sure your interest will come back once its going live :)



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« Reply #65 on: February 20, 2016, 09:28:10 pm »


Hey coinomat, befor you start to get to work I would advice to take a look at eMunie. It is in developent for about 3 years now and is set to be released in the next couple of month. As of now, it is the most advanced cryptocurrency and platform IMO.  It also has solved the problem of scaling, almost instant confirmation times, an DEX, a market place, ENS, a reputation system, messaging, chatting...well just take a look for your self.
This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mue6y4iVHNE
and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S_zHtlIpeA
will show you a bit of the client.
I think its worth checking, before starting a new project, might save you lots of hard work and resources.
Cool stuff. I must say I remember it was gonna launch like a year ago or so :) But I'll check it ouf of course, looks promising indeed.

eMunie was announced about a year before Nxt and got delayed and canceled multiple times, for years.
The main dev got the funds stolen once. I lost my interest in it back then.




Yes, that is true it was announced before Nxt and is in closed Beta since then. In those two and a halve years it was constantly improved (in closed beta).
It is also true that release was delayed several times, and unfortunately it is not guaranteed that it will not happen again this time.
Yes the Funds got stolen, which is very sad, though I must add that  Dan (the developer) payed every one back out of his own pocket.

If you lost your interest, well that's fine and up to you. Though I am quite sure your interest will come back once its going live :)
I must say from experience that such stories rarely end well :) but let's hope it won't be like that this time.
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« Reply #66 on: February 21, 2016, 02:46:30 am »


Hey coinomat, befor you start to get to work I would advice to take a look at eMunie. It is in developent for about 3 years now and is set to be released in the next couple of month. As of now, it is the most advanced cryptocurrency and platform IMO.  It also has solved the problem of scaling, almost instant confirmation times, an DEX, a market place, ENS, a reputation system, messaging, chatting...well just take a look for your self.
This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mue6y4iVHNE
and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S_zHtlIpeA
will show you a bit of the client.
I think its worth checking, before starting a new project, might save you lots of hard work and resources.
Cool stuff. I must say I remember it was gonna launch like a year ago or so :) But I'll check it ouf of course, looks promising indeed.

eMunie was announced about a year before Nxt and got delayed and canceled multiple times, for years.
The main dev got the funds stolen once. I lost my interest in it back then.




Yes, that is true it was announced before Nxt and is in closed Beta since then. In those two and a halve years it was constantly improved (in closed beta).
It is also true that release was delayed several times, and unfortunately it is not guaranteed that it will not happen again this time.
Yes the Funds got stolen, which is very sad, though I must add that  Dan (the developer) payed every one back out of his own pocket.

If you lost your interest, well that's fine and up to you. Though I am quite sure your interest will come back once its going live :)
I must say from experience that such stories rarely end well :) but let's hope it won't be like that this time.


In regards to the constant delays, or what do you mean?
In this case I agree completely, the delays where not great, to say the least.
But in the end I think that shouldn't matter, I mean it isn't as if any one was hurt due to the delays...except for being disappointed :D

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« Reply #67 on: February 21, 2016, 03:59:24 am »

@coinomat - who are on your team so far if you don't mind?
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« Reply #68 on: February 21, 2016, 12:08:40 pm »

@coinomat - who are on your team so far if you don't mind?
kushti and james, if you mean coders from NXT ecosystem.
some other people will join in too I think.
also there will be some other guys of course, in the office.
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« Reply #69 on: February 21, 2016, 12:11:20 pm »


Hey coinomat, befor you start to get to work I would advice to take a look at eMunie. It is in developent for about 3 years now and is set to be released in the next couple of month. As of now, it is the most advanced cryptocurrency and platform IMO.  It also has solved the problem of scaling, almost instant confirmation times, an DEX, a market place, ENS, a reputation system, messaging, chatting...well just take a look for your self.
This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mue6y4iVHNE
and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S_zHtlIpeA
will show you a bit of the client.
I think its worth checking, before starting a new project, might save you lots of hard work and resources.
Cool stuff. I must say I remember it was gonna launch like a year ago or so :) But I'll check it ouf of course, looks promising indeed.

eMunie was announced about a year before Nxt and got delayed and canceled multiple times, for years.
The main dev got the funds stolen once. I lost my interest in it back then.




Yes, that is true it was announced before Nxt and is in closed Beta since then. In those two and a halve years it was constantly improved (in closed beta).
It is also true that release was delayed several times, and unfortunately it is not guaranteed that it will not happen again this time.
Yes the Funds got stolen, which is very sad, though I must add that  Dan (the developer) payed every one back out of his own pocket.

If you lost your interest, well that's fine and up to you. Though I am quite sure your interest will come back once its going live :)
I must say from experience that such stories rarely end well :) but let's hope it won't be like that this time.


In regards to the constant delays, or what do you mean?
In this case I agree completely, the delays where not great, to say the least.
But in the end I think that shouldn't matter, I mean it isn't as if any one was hurt due to the delays...except for being disappointed :D
yes, usually it all just fizzles out.
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« Reply #70 on: February 22, 2016, 11:02:11 am »

Names I have for now:
I like PARTON or GLUON (I have a theoretical physics backround :) ) Parton is a basic particle out of which all other particles are build, gluon is
a gravity quant, and it's cool because a week ago humanity discovered gravitational waves
Also WAVES seem to be nice, due to this :)
PREON is also nice, it's mysterious meta particle
Forklog suggests RISE, which is pretty cool too, it
 can be XRS at exchanges.
Tell me what you guys think
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« Reply #71 on: February 22, 2016, 11:07:20 am »

Names I have for now:
I like PARTON or GLUON (I have a theoretical physics backround :) ) Parton is a basic particle out of which all other particles are build, gluon is
a gravity quant, and it's cool because a week ago humanity discovered gravitational waves
Also WAVES seem to be nice, due to this :)
Forklog suggests RISE, which is pretty cool too, it can be XRS at exchanges.
Tell me what you guys think

I was wondering when the names discussion would start :)
Quark is taken, right?
'Lepton' is pretty good, and it is also the name of a coin in ancient Greece - the smallest unit. (Actually it looks like the sub-unit of modern Greek coins too.)
Edit: the lepton's symbol is lambda, which also has lots of connotations in different branches of science
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« Reply #72 on: February 22, 2016, 12:10:44 pm »

Lambda reminds me of Revenge of the nerds ;)
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« Reply #73 on: February 22, 2016, 01:02:26 pm »

Names I have for now:
I like PARTON or GLUON (I have a theoretical physics backround :) ) Parton is a basic particle out of which all other particles are build, gluon is
a gravity quant, and it's cool because a week ago humanity discovered gravitational waves
Also WAVES seem to be nice, due to this :)
Forklog suggests RISE, which is pretty cool too, it can be XRS at exchanges.
Tell me what you guys think

WAVE is the best from these choices.
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« Reply #74 on: February 22, 2016, 01:14:23 pm »

codewise, are you going to work with kushtis scorex as a point of origin?
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« Reply #75 on: February 22, 2016, 02:29:41 pm »

codewise, are you going to work with kushtis scorex as a point of origin?
No, unfortunately.
A user would have to install Java and some other soft on top before installing the client, since it's coded in Scala.
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« Reply #76 on: February 23, 2016, 10:11:35 am »

Gathering the dev team now
major ann will be next weea
still thinking about the name.
This is going to be the ultimate decentralized tokens/asset platform, so I consider this angle too in the name

What about AVAIL?
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« Reply #77 on: February 23, 2016, 10:45:59 am »

TALON? (I think that's Russian for token, and it's quite cool too)
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« Reply #78 on: February 24, 2016, 08:29:38 am »

TALON? (I think that's Russian for token, and it's quite cool too)
TALON is cool yeah :) it's closer to "ticket" though
Can't come up with a really cool name yet,  would appreciate ideas :)
Usually I'm quite quick with names but not this time
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« Reply #79 on: February 24, 2016, 10:10:46 am »

Coinoform? Portmanteau of Coinomat and Platform, but it also means 'coin-shaped'.
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