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Title: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: capodieci on September 27, 2017, 10:56:54 am
Getting ready for the ICO!

Now (27 September 2017)
1DBN = 35NXT = 2.45 US Dollar
1NXT = 0.00001684BTC = 0.07 US Dollar
1ETH = 290 US Dollar
thus
1DBN = 0.0085 ETH

The swap of AE DeBuNe toward ERC20 Ethereum tokens is at 1:1.5
(for each 1DBN from the AE you get 1.5DBN ERC20 tokens)

AE <> Token swap will end the 30 of October 2017!

DeBuNe Pre ICO will start the 1st of November and will sell 1DBN at 0.02ETH (for large quantities).


HOW TO CLAIM YOUR ERC20 DeBuNe tokens

First, take note of the addresses of the AE and the ERC20 token:

ERC20 Token: 0x570295aeC9b7196300885eC594049c1C50fEB09c

Account: NXT-GQ27-DD53-YM6K-ER6HK
DBN Asset Id: 6926770479287491943

Send your DeBuNe assets to NXT-GQ27-DD53-YM6K-ER6HK adding in a message (either public or encrypted) the Ethereum wallet where you want to receive the ERC20 token.

Requests will be collected until the end of the month of October 2017, and the ERC20 tokens will be sent only after the ICO is started.

Requests of swap received after the end of October MAY not be fulfilled.

For those of you that have heard about BlockchainZoo and are interested in ZOO tokens, send me a message to rob at bcz.ooo

Roberto Capodieci

NOTICE FOR THOSE THAT DON'T WANT TO USE ERC20 / ETHEREUM. Update:

A) Some of you have contacted me asking how to avoid the swap with the ERC20 tokens and swap directly with the DeBuNe blockchain tokens.

B) Some of you simply don't want to deal with Ethereum. I understand and appreciate this.

I want to clarify that DeBuNe is NOT being implemented with Ethereum.

Case A) I am open to this possibility, and I apologise for not thinking about it beforehand. In this case return the AE token from an Nxt account you will be able to use in the future to send me the DeBuNe blckchain account where I will send the matching DBN.

Case B) For those of you that prefer to skip the ICO in Ethereum, I been suggested to talk with Komodo Platform to run a BTC ICO there. I am absolutely open to this, and I understand this makes many of you happier. I will discuss with Komodo the how to, and if all is ok we will proceed to offer DeBuNe also there. Note that in this 3 years I have delivered several working Blockchain projects. I have made a good estimate that for a successful phase 1 of DeBuNe we will need at least USD2M for initial work and bounties. For as much as I love Nxt I understand that is a hard goal to reach this in the AE, thus my intention to move to ERC20, and I am super open to working with Komodo for those of you that prefer not to use Ethereum.

Please let me know if you need more clarifications and have more suggestions, I will be happy to do my best to make it right to everyone.

R
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: Amalgamus on September 27, 2017, 11:45:57 am
Awesome :D
Great to be part of the new venture.
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: zuqka on September 27, 2017, 02:26:37 pm
WowW Roberto really? Moving on ethereum and even advertising it here? I better comment no further...
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: rubenbc on September 27, 2017, 07:11:07 pm
I have been waiting patiently a lot in order to see DeBuNe on top of Nxt ecosystem, without any interesting news but waiting for your words. You appeared in digitalbillions (and some events)  promoting Nxt in the page(I suppose with a private client) and now (a few month later)  you want to move into ethereum??

Remembering...
I remember some posts made for yourselve about ethereum, I remember one
(http://i.imgur.com/b3Vm3ET.png)

My religion does not able me to participe in your ICO, despite I'm the first asset holder of DeBuNe...

How we could solve this hilarious situation??

Btw I wish you all the best, but I'm incompatible with your new adventure.

Regards
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: alexandr207 on September 28, 2017, 07:44:36 am
Good fellow, Roberto! It is the correct decision... Explain in more detail step by step what needs to be done... If not to exchange DeBuNe? What will be with him in AE? Also, how jinn and IOTA?
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: capodieci on September 29, 2017, 11:05:27 am
Guys, you all know my devotion for Nxt since day 1 (or even -1 for that matter).

There are MANY reasons why finally the DeBuNe fundraising is in Ethereum and not (again?) in the Nxt AE.

Some are practical:

1) liquidity in ETH is much higher than liquidity in NXT
2) audience in Ethereum is much wider than in Nxt
3) ICOs ARE in Ethereum
4) It is a GOLDEN opportunity to grab attention of the wide Ethereum community and point their attention to Nxt/Ardor

Then there are other reasons, and I am not sure I can publicly say all them here. Those of you that know me directly and have spoken to me, are free to ping me in Telegram, and I will provide a private explanation. Which is sad, hurts me A LOT, and is concerning (IMO) for the future of Nxt/Ardor. Partially another story.

DeBuNe is happening, and we need real cash to make it happen properly. I would never build DeBuNe on Ethereum, this is not a secret, and as Rubenaco points out, I am not a fan. But here I can collect another USD 20k worth of NXT (the total amount of funds collected so far), and that will not bring DeBuNe ahead so much. Let's be honest, that's the truth. Ethereum has the liquidity I wish Nxt had.

You all should help DeBuNe to collect some serious funding via Ethereum. Enough to fund the development. If there was the chance to collect this in Nxt, I wouldn't have even considered Ethereum for the fundraising.

Cheers, and sorry if this fundraising choice has disappointed some of you...

Roberto
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: rubenbc on September 29, 2017, 01:40:02 pm
Guys, you all know my devotion for Nxt since day 1 (or even -1 for that matter).

There are MANY reasons why finally the DeBuNe fundraising is in Ethereum and not (again?) in the Nxt AE.

Some are practical:

1) liquidity in ETH is much higher than liquidity in NXT
2) audience in Ethereum is much wider than in Nxt
3) ICOs ARE in Ethereum
4) It is a GOLDEN opportunity to grab attention of the wide Ethereum community and point their attention to Nxt/Ardor

Then there are other reasons, and I am not sure I can publicly say all them here. Those of you that know me directly and have spoken to me, are free to ping me in Telegram, and I will provide a private explanation. Which is sad, hurts me A LOT, and is concerning (IMO) for the future of Nxt/Ardor. Partially another story.

DeBuNe is happening, and we need real cash to make it happen properly. I would never build DeBuNe on Ethereum, this is not a secret, and as Rubenaco points out, I am not a fan. But here I can collect another USD 20k worth of NXT (the total amount of funds collected so far), and that will not bring DeBuNe ahead so much. Let's be honest, that's the truth. Ethereum has the liquidity I wish Nxt had.

You all should help DeBuNe to collect some serious funding via Ethereum. Enough to fund the development. If there was the chance to collect this in Nxt, I wouldn't have even considered Ethereum for the fundraising.

Cheers, and sorry if this fundraising choice has disappointed some of you...

Roberto

I/we needed this explanation Roberto, I believe in you and we talk some times in the past therefore I didn't expect this type ICO announcement.
You know all the times that the community had suffered and I remembered old times, therefore I think that it has been better if you had provided more information about it :)

I will look for somebody who manage my asset swap.. If nobody helps me, could you manage it personally for me? (I suspect you will not use the nxt client..)

I will be here seeing and waiting for all your answer, I have always been interested in DeBuNe
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: capodieci on October 01, 2017, 04:04:08 am
Sure I can help.

For further clarification DeBuNe will have its own blockchain. We have done a lot of work on it already, all financed by myself.

Why not on Nxt? The reason is very sad, I will disclose at due time. I would have loved to work with Nxt, but love must be mutual :)

Anyways, to answer your question, ERC20 tokens will represent the use DeBuNe blockchain. To comply with current tokens regulations the token are sold at a convenient price for the use of a service that has a higher market price later on. And can be traded between users.

Later ERC20 will be swapped for DBN.

More on this in a detailed document when the ICO is presented.

R
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: Evan on October 02, 2017, 05:26:35 am

Not even with a gun pointed to my head I would move to Ethereoum. lol

R

This is what was said when the last 10k shares of DeBuNe was being sold for 40NXT each
So the assets were sold for something else than what it was promised to be, which is not proper I think

I believe a lot of people were buying expecting that it will happen on Nxt
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: capodieci on October 03, 2017, 12:39:47 am

Not even with a gun pointed to my head I would move to Ethereoum. lol

R

This is what was said when the last 10k shares of DeBuNe was being sold for 40NXT each
So the assets were sold for something else than what it was promised to be, which is not proper I think

I believe a lot of people were buying expecting that it will happen on Nxt

Honestly, I was talking about the technology used to implement DeBuNe, not how I would collect the funds to implement it... I apologise for the misunderstanding, and I reassure you that I would NOT use Ethereum as the technology for DeBuNe.

R
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: capodieci on October 03, 2017, 01:01:53 am
NOTICE FOR THOSE THAT DON'T WANT TO USE ERC20 / ETHEREUM. Update:

A) Some of you have contacted me asking how to avoid the swap with the ERC20 tokens and swap directly with the DeBuNe blockchain tokens.

B) Some of you simply don't want to deal with Ethereum. I understand and appreciate this.

I want to clarify that DeBuNe is NOT being implemented with Ethereum.

Case A) I am open to this possibility, and I apologise for not thinking about it beforehand. In this case return the AE token from an Nxt account you will be able to use in the future to send me the DeBuNe blckchain account where I will send the matching DBN.

Case B) For those of you that prefer to skip the ICO in Ethereum, I been suggested to talk with Komodo Platform to run a BTC ICO there. I am absolutely open to this, and I understand this makes many of you happier. I will discuss with Komodo the how to, and if all is ok we will proceed to offer DeBuNe also there. Note that in this 3 years I have delivered several working Blockchain projects. I have made a good estimate that for a successful phase 1 of DeBuNe we will need at least USD2M for initial work and bounties. For as much as I love Nxt I understand that is a hard goal to reach this in the AE, thus my intention to move to ERC20, and I am super open to working with Komodo for those of you that prefer not to use Ethereum.

Please let me know if you need more clarifications and have more suggestions, I will be happy to do my best to make it right to everyone.

R
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: capodieci on October 15, 2017, 01:45:19 pm
UPDATE:

So far 90'670.6862 DeBuNe assets have been sent back to be swapped with ERC20 tokens.

There are still 158'772.24 that needs to be returned Before the end of October, or else they will end up not being swapped.

Whoever desires to swap the DeBuNe assets with DBN after the launch of the DeBuNe blockchain, please send them back specifying so in the message.

15 days left.

Roberto
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: capodieci on November 01, 2017, 06:39:09 am
IMPORTANT AND URGENT

Last few hours to send back the DeBuNe Assets to the issuer account, to then get them as ERC20 or as DeBuNe tokens once the DeBuNe blockchain is launched.

I saw some of you that have put them for sale, in a few hours they will be worth nothing (I will put ALL the assets from the issuer account for sale at 0.00000001 (or whatever the minimum is).

Cancel your purchase orders, cancel your sales order and send back to asset issuer BEFORE all the assets will be put on sale.

Just a few hours left!

Roberto
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: eB101 on November 07, 2017, 10:15:21 pm
hello, looks like I'm a bit late, is there any way to switch my debune now? manual claim or something of the sort? If I can prove there were not traded for years...

Thanks
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: capodieci on November 08, 2017, 09:11:12 am
contact me in private, let see if I can help.

R

hello, looks like I'm a bit late, is there any way to switch my debune now? manual claim or something of the sort? If I can prove there were not traded for years...

Thanks
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: eB101 on November 13, 2017, 07:20:10 pm
contact me in private, let see if I can help.

R

hello, looks like I'm a bit late, is there any way to switch my debune now? manual claim or something of the sort? If I can prove there were not traded for years...

Thanks

Sent you 2 PMs right away but didn't get any answer - can you still help? Thx
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: capodieci on November 15, 2017, 06:41:00 am
contact me in private, let see if I can help.

R

hello, looks like I'm a bit late, is there any way to switch my debune now? manual claim or something of the sort? If I can prove there were not traded for years...

Thanks

Sent you 2 PMs right away but didn't get any answer - can you still help? Thx

Yes, I am keen to help everyone, but I am travelling and jumping from a conference to another, I will follow up in December.

Check who set behind me at this conference yesterday... (I did ask him what he thinks about the use of smart contracts versus the use of smart transactions. and he is in line with my thought, which I found amazing.)
(https://i.imgur.com/6sjYPWV.jpg)
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: cascrypto1 on November 21, 2017, 12:37:36 pm
Hi Roberto, can you please assist me I have not kept up with the curent development in DeBuNe , can i please still swap my assets with you? tray to contact you trough slack! please advice me thanks
 
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: capodieci on November 22, 2017, 02:01:46 am
Hi Roberto, can you please assist me I have not kept up with the curent development in DeBuNe , can i please still swap my assets with you? tray to contact you trough slack! please advice me thanks

Whoever has had no DeBuNe assets movement after the end of October, can still send them back
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: cascrypto1 on November 22, 2017, 10:10:36 am
thamks are send  today!
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: soldat on November 29, 2017, 08:49:33 am
Some news about the swap ?
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: capodieci on November 30, 2017, 04:27:19 am
Some news about the swap ?

Fighting with an ETH smart contract. Realised the token previously created can't be used.

We should be able to deploy it soon, and once it is deployed I immediately do the swap :)

R
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: Damelon on December 27, 2017, 06:10:21 pm
Any news on this? :)
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: capodieci on December 28, 2017, 08:13:36 pm
-= SWAP EXECUTED TODAY =-

Please check your ETH wallets. If someone has not received the tokens, please contact me in Telegram in the group DeBuNe: https://t.me/debune01

Soon I will publish all the conditions for the token and the funds needed for DeBuNe.

For now info can be seen here: https://etherscan.io/token/0x0abd16e326ace84e23b0b32398e5604efe83571f

R
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: Ludom on December 29, 2017, 02:35:30 pm
Thanks
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: Amalgamus on January 03, 2018, 07:50:52 am
"DeBuNe will have an ICO before end of 2017" :(
That didn't happen.
What can we expect from DeBuNe, Roberto? Any hope to see the project on the map someday?
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: capodieci on January 03, 2018, 08:24:31 pm
The reasons things have been delayed and plans changed are many.

I will publish soon the website with all the details.

Whoever can read solidity can see when the token sale will happen :)

2018 is the year for DeBuNe.

R
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: Amalgamus on January 03, 2018, 10:16:11 pm
Thanks, Roberto. Always nice to get reminders or updates.   :)

"Whoever can read solidity can see when the token sale will happen :)"  I saw, thanks.
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: Amalgamus on January 25, 2018, 01:31:17 pm
Nice place to start an ICO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=l8XNRTfPgZI
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: capodieci on January 26, 2018, 03:38:12 am
Thank you for the link!

I have set a team of people with great experience, some from Blockchain Zoo, to structure DeBuNe Token Sale.

It will be great, but we just realised the contract deployed is not good... :( so we will do a further swap...

But for the common good. More news coming soon, the website is coming up well!

R
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: topot on October 31, 2018, 01:05:20 pm
Hello, dear friends! I exchanged the tokens for ERC (Ethereum) long ago. I have 250 pieces. When there is a new exchange? There is no activity at this forum. Is not present anywhere... The project is closed?
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: capodieci on November 01, 2018, 09:20:07 am
The project is not closed. There have been legal and organizational issues that have created a delay, and we are waiting to confirm the deployment before of the next phase before making new announcements.

Afterall it is an awful moment for ICOs :)

R
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: topot on November 18, 2018, 08:04:01 pm
  :(
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: rubenbc on November 21, 2018, 05:07:49 pm
The project is not closed. There have been legal and organizational issues that have created a delay, and we are waiting to confirm the deployment before of the next phase before making new announcements.

Afterall it is an awful moment for ICOs :)

R

Should old investors be worried?  In cryptoworld is normal to see project be delayed, but the community has been waiting for years to see the potential of debune. I understand that you did not collect what you expected in this community, but there are people who in their day put their illusion in the form of money and need some kind of explanation.
Regards
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: topot on November 22, 2018, 07:17:54 pm
 ;)
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: topot on November 22, 2018, 07:21:17 pm
 :)
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: rubenbc on November 22, 2018, 10:07:48 pm
I have 250 pieces.
I invested 100 000 US dollars in YOUR project!!

Please don't FUD, and let's wait for Roberto's answer :)
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: capodieci on November 23, 2018, 02:27:58 am
Thanks Rubenaco.

Soon this forums will be closed (I guess frozen, as it is good to leave here past messages for record) and we move the discussion to DeBuNe dedicated forum.

So much to share, and many good news, but small legal stuff still has to be taken care of.

R
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: topot on November 23, 2018, 07:27:51 am
Thanks, Roberto, for the answer.... Rubenaсo! I exaggerated a little.
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: rubenbc on April 18, 2019, 09:16:48 pm
Hi, @capodieci five months ago from the last update and I wonder how things are...

Is DeBuNe alive? Years ago you wanted to do an ICO but due to market conditions it has never been done. I suppose you are aware of the over-exploitation of the ICOs and nowadays it is very difficult to get money with these campaigns...

Is there anything we can do for this asset? Are we still waiting for news? or do we consider DeBuNe dead...

Please throw some clarity into this uncomfortable situation
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: eclips on April 19, 2019, 02:47:49 pm
Hey, saw some activities on twitter. This project is coming back from the dead ?
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: capodieci on April 20, 2019, 03:34:29 am
Hello all,
   here is a bit of history. In 2014-2015 DeBuNe raised USD20k and, with more personal capital injected, dev started, but shortly things went to a point where we needed to make some money to finance the project. We (as DeBuNe team) moved to take in projects to keep financing the implementation, until we got stuck in a legal situation where we had to pay attention even to mention the name DeBuNe. I still cannot say much on this as there are still situations open against a person. While things evolved in all the crypto world, the technology we implemented, based on NXT, wasn't good anymore. We had to keep the concept, but code again. Some more cash came in (privately, from me) and last year we had another attempt to get things up and running properly. In the meanwhile Blockchain Zoo (http://bcz.ooo) was born, to include DeBuNe as one of its core projects. It is now that we have a full team of people 100% devoted to implement a new type of blockchain, based on a different proof, that will be the base for DeBuNe implementation.

I been silent in the past months, and not so talkative in the past year, because of the legal situation created by someone we trusted. Now we are almost off there, and is soon time to resurrect DeBuNe, and bring it to life.

I appreciate everyone patience, and nobody has even been forgotten.

R
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: alexandr207 on April 20, 2019, 07:06:27 pm
I anticipate the fast sweet future for holders of DEBUNE. Everything will be much better, than all dreamed...
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: TheCryptoWoman on April 21, 2019, 11:50:20 am
This is definitely an exciting update for DeBuNe!

While things evolved in all the crypto world, the technology we implemented, based on NXT, wasn't good anymore. We had to keep the concept, but code again.

Can you please provide a little bit more information about the tech you will be using, the platform you will be building on. Will there be any connection to NXT more than the current assets?

 :)
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: rubenbc on April 21, 2019, 12:33:27 pm
Thanks for updating this post @capodieci. I'm waiting to know more about the evolution of your tech. Will be Open Source? Where the devs could take a look?

@TheCryproWoman I think that after the swap (see OP) debune will not have connection with NXT anymore, but I hope be wrong
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: rubenbc on April 21, 2019, 12:34:16 pm
I anticipate the fast sweet future for holders of DEBUNE. Everything will be much better, than all dreamed...
Do you know something that we don't?
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: capodieci on April 22, 2019, 01:42:55 am
Thanks for updating this post @capodieci. I'm waiting to know more about the evolution of your tech. Will be Open Source? Where the devs could take a look?

It will be open source, there will be repos where devs can collaborate. There will be licenses only for commercial use. There is a very long vision on this architecture, so we have set 5 steps to go through, 5 stable releases each advancing compared to the previous one. Some stuff in the first release would make sense only knowing the full view. We are working on preparing material to explain all this, will release toward the end of the year. We have a good team working actively only on this already, and we have some part already implemented and being tested. We release the all thing opensource only after we have a basic release, and very well documented the mechanics of the protocol. We will raise funds and set bounties for the core node to be implemented in various languages at due time. Follow Blockchain Zoo to know more as soon as we start releasing info.

Follow BCZ on Twitter: https://twitter.com/blockchainzoo/
Follow BCZ on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/blockchainzoo/
Follow BCZ on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/blockchainzoo/
Like BCZ page on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/blockchainzoo/

R
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: topot on June 25, 2019, 05:54:22 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKygqYPnW2U&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: topot on September 01, 2019, 08:09:15 am
DeBuNe will be implemented at the top of the ZOOBC/
https://zoobc.org  https://zoobc.com
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: topot on September 01, 2019, 08:24:39 am
https://t.me/ZooBlockchain
Title: Re: ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap
Post by: capodieci on September 18, 2019, 06:15:10 am
Remember DeBuNe? Read this!

DeBuNe will be implemented on top of ZooBC (https://zoobc.com)(.com), a new blockchain platform built by Blockchain Zoo (https://blockchainzoo.com): the same original DeBuNe core team now with the added contribution of others super talented people (we are now 50 people).

Why this choice of a new platform? Because no other blockchain architecture can guarantee the safety DeBuNe needs. We have learned so much from Nxt in so many years working with it, that we decided to implement our own platform. Want to discuss or learn more? Join the forum at https://zoobc.org (https://zoobc.org)

(https://zoobc.com/images/ZooBC_logo.png) (https://zoobc.org)

Cheers!
Roberto
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