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Title: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on August 13, 2016, 04:57:49 am
Hello everyone. DeBuNe will have an ICO toward the end of the year, beginning of next year. A lot of news will be released, and there will be a distribution of the coins.

250000 will be sold in the ICO, and 250000 will be given to the asset holders with an average holding calculated in a period that will be announced (something similar to the ardor distribution).

I have put some DeBuNe assets at 19 NXT each in the AE, and 15k more will be made available in the next weeks at a higher price until a total of 250000 assets are circulating in the Nxt AE.

The ICO will sell for definitely more than 20NXT per coin, so this is an soft offer for NXT holders.

I am aware that all of you want to hold Nxt for the ardor distribution, so I don't expect an assault to the available assets for now, but once the ardor distribution is completed there will be some dump of Nxt (IMO) and it may be a good moment to convert in DeBuNe assets.

Well, this is pretty much all I can say for now...

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: rubenbc on August 13, 2016, 09:43:31 am
Waiting for more news I'm excited again ;)

Enviado desde mi Redmi Note 3 mediante Tapatalk

Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: gh on August 13, 2016, 04:00:10 pm
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Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: gh on August 14, 2016, 03:18:05 pm
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Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Ludom on August 15, 2016, 08:11:00 am
Hi, Capodieci. Good news !!!

I have a question: the distribution to DeBuNe holders is a dividend or is it a swap ?

It's important to know if the DeBuNe assets hold value after the coin distribution.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: NxtSwe on August 15, 2016, 09:22:12 am
Hello everyone. DeBuNe will have an ICO toward the end of the year, beginning of next year. A lot of news will be released, and there will be a distribution of the coins.

250000 will be sold in the ICO, and 250000 will be given to the asset holders with an average holding calculated in a period that will be announced (something similar to the ardor distribution).

I have put some DeBuNe assets at 19 NXT each in the AE, and 15k more will be made available in the next weeks at a higher price until a total of 250000 assets are circulating in the Nxt AE.

The ICO will sell for definitely more than 20NXT per coin, so this is an soft offer for NXT holders.

I am aware that all of you want to hold Nxt for the ardor distribution, so I don't expect an assault to the available assets for now, but once the ardor distribution is completed there will be some dump of Nxt (IMO) and it may be a good moment to convert in DeBuNe assets.

Well, this is pretty much all I can say for now...

R
I realize I did not read this properly the first time.
ICO you say, as you will be releasing your own coin?

If so, that raises a lot of questions in my mind, what type of coin?
Will it be on the Ardor blockchain?
How will this affect the dividend to asset holders? And the asset value?

Well, this is pretty much all I can say for now...
Oh well... I guess we'll be living in the dark for a few more months then :P
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: spiler on August 15, 2016, 03:16:02 pm
I talked to Capodieci and he said that current Debune shares will be swapped with new ones (like said in the post above: ...and 250000 will be given to the asset holders with an average holding calculated in a period that will be announced (something similar to the ardor distribution).
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: rubenbc on August 18, 2016, 04:06:50 am
[Ann]ounced --> http://nxter.org/es/debune-anuncia-oferta-publica-venta/
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on January 05, 2017, 02:29:35 pm
Hi Roberto,
Is there a precise timeline about the ICO?
Subsequently are we going to get more news from DeBuNe project?  Won't NDA's get in the way for delivering more information?
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on January 07, 2017, 02:18:38 am
Hi Roberto,
Is there a precise timeline about the ICO?
Subsequently are we going to get more news from DeBuNe project?  Won't NDA's get in the way for delivering more information?

It is happening the first half of 2017. We are planning all the marketing. NDA are a pain in the butt, yes. We are working to ask disclosure permission to some of the more important projects :) Something well done requires time, but we are working hard!

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on January 07, 2017, 02:21:38 am
I am also waiting the last 1k= shares on sales to be gone, for now I wait, but before ICO campaign starts I will either buy them personally or lower the price. I want the AE to have all the 250k in circulation and have no more to sell, so 250k are the stock for the ICO.

Once ICO is done we do a claim of AE tokens to then exchange them with DBN for the initial distribution.

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on January 07, 2017, 03:30:52 pm
I am also waiting the last 1k= shares on sales to be gone, for now I wait, but before ICO campaign starts I will either buy them personally or lower the price. I want the AE to have all the 250k in circulation and have no more to sell, so 250k are the stock for the ICO.

Once ICO is done we do a claim of AE tokens to then exchange them with DBN for the initial distribution.

R
Everytime you communicate on the forum, there're some DeBuNe assets being sold.  :D
I would have gladly bought the last K or so but my bag is already full of DeBuNe. Since mid october I bought more than 13k and need to invest into some other coins that are popping up.
2 days ago DeBuNe was taken out from coinmarketcap's assets listing. Hopefully it will be back on the listing sometime later when the good news will be known ;)
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on January 09, 2017, 07:15:33 am
2 days ago DeBuNe was taken out from coinmarketcap's assets listing. Hopefully it will be back on the listing sometime later when the good news will be known ;)

I didn't even know it was listed there lol :)

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on January 13, 2017, 05:54:51 pm
Giving a link that should be interesting for DeBuNe holders and the NXT community as a whole: Digitalbillions.com
Scroll down and have a look at the solutions, the team and the clients.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: rubenbc on January 13, 2017, 10:54:40 pm
Guau!! Amazing news!!!
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: NxtSwe on January 13, 2017, 11:12:28 pm
Giving a link that should be interesting for DeBuNe holders and the NXT community as a whole: Digitalbillions.com
Scroll down and have a look at the solutions, the team and the clients.
Woha?!
This raises a lot of questions, but I assume the answer will be 'NDA', so I'll just stay at Woha?!?!
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on January 14, 2017, 02:18:20 pm
I am also waiting the last 1k= shares on sales to be gone, for now I wait, but before ICO campaign starts I will either buy them personally or lower the price. I want the AE to have all the 250k in circulation and have no more to sell, so 250k are the stock for the ICO.

Once ICO is done we do a claim of AE tokens to then exchange them with DBN for the initial distribution.

R
No more left for sale from the asset issuer on the AE.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on January 15, 2017, 04:54:17 am
I am also waiting the last 1k= shares on sales to be gone, for now I wait, but before ICO campaign starts I will either buy them personally or lower the price. I want the AE to have all the 250k in circulation and have no more to sell, so 250k are the stock for the ICO.

Once ICO is done we do a claim of AE tokens to then exchange them with DBN for the initial distribution.

R
No more left for sale from the asset issuer on the AE.

Oh wow, that's a great news :) I am so excited we are getting close to this ICO :) Guys, you have no idea what a crazy ensemble of things an ICO requires :) What is comforting is the success of wave, they honestly didn't put much upfront, while with DeBuNe we have TONS to weight the efforts already done. Should go great, and if all is as I hope those of you that got some in the AE will have quite a treat when exchanging them :) Thanks for the long lasting support to everyone of you :)
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: EvilDave on January 15, 2017, 10:39:25 am
http://digitalbillions.com/
 Just to make it easy to find  ;D

Looking forward to see what Roberto and his team have in store for the ICO and further.
Good luck, DeBuNe dudes.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on February 16, 2017, 08:38:22 am
DeBuNe presented in Japan by Digital Billions CEO

(https://i.imgur.com/PYgOBsH.jpg)
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: marenkar on February 20, 2017, 05:30:41 am
DeBuNe presented in Japan by Digital Billions CEO

(https://i.imgur.com/PYgOBsH.jpg)

Awesome! What was the event about?
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Ludom on February 20, 2017, 03:28:05 pm
In the country of NEM :)
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on February 22, 2017, 01:02:28 am
In the country of NEM :)

lol
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on March 18, 2017, 07:18:59 pm
The serious person should not answer lol or wow!!! On business write!
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on March 19, 2017, 09:59:01 am
The serious person should not answer lol or wow!!! On business write!

Being serious doesn't mean not to have or be fun :)

I trust more people that enjoy a good laugh...

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on March 19, 2017, 10:31:56 am
Why you do not pay dividends?
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on March 20, 2017, 05:56:49 am
Why you do not pay dividends?

They have been paid 4 times so far, for revenue had while still working for the main scope, the blockchain not launched yet, and ICO coming soon :)

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on March 21, 2017, 08:59:19 am
DeBuNe will have own blockchain? It is a coin? She will bargain later at other exchanges?
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on March 22, 2017, 04:49:25 am
DeBuNe will have own blockchain? It is a coin? She will bargain later at other exchanges?

DeBuNe ICO is coming soon, we are almost ready and will start promoting it in about 1mo. Who owns DeBuNe assets will have a deadline to exchange them for ICO coins.

After ICO a new genesis will have the distribution as per ICO sales and AE token exchanged (needless to say ICO will sell for more than the AE valuation).

If ARDOR will be ready, then DeBuNe can be under ARDOR, else independent but still married with Nxt :)

DeBuNe is above all a project to value Nxt (the technology, not much the coin even if I hope it will happen consequently).

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on March 22, 2017, 12:03:21 pm
I have DeBuNe assets. But I never participated in ICO. I will be able to carry out exchange without special knowledge? I will be able to carry out exchange of ICO in the NRS 1.11.4?... Thanks for answers!
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on March 22, 2017, 09:51:55 pm
I have DeBuNe assets. But I never participated in ICO. I will be able to carry out exchange without special knowledge? I will be able to carry out exchange of ICO in the NRS 1.11.4?... Thanks for answers!
It will be as easy to participate in the ICO as it was for you to buy the DeBuNe assets from the AE. Nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on March 23, 2017, 06:45:51 pm
I am sure that DeBuNe within 2 years will be more expensive than 100 US dollars.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on March 23, 2017, 07:01:11 pm
I have a request... I prompted me MARENKAR//in due time Many people do not believe in protection of NXT against hackers. PROTECTION-one password words... I want that you informed community that the account it is possible to protect 2FA> 3FA-4FA by confirmation by other accounts!!! IT is VERY IMPORTANT!!! Until you tell it to all, NXT will not enjoy confidence of people. People are afraid to lose money!
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Jose on March 23, 2017, 07:30:18 pm
When you create a new Nxt account using your Nxt wallet, you receive a warning saying that your passphrase should contain at least 12 random words, not just a single word, for security reasons. A passphrase that long means excellent security for your account ;)
Moreover, "Account control" was implemented in Nxt a long time ago (version 1.7.0e - December, 2015). It can be used as a kind of 2FA or multisign, giving you even more security.

https://nxtwiki.org/wiki/Account_Control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV2eKifqrOg
https://nxtforum.org/nrs-releases/nrs-v1-7-0e/

So I don't think that nxters are afraid of loosing the money in their wallets :)
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on March 23, 2017, 08:14:35 pm
Unfortunately nobody knows it! I not just like that wrote it! I am not the silliest! And new people - silly!!!
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on March 23, 2017, 08:21:15 pm
I'm Russian! I do not know English! That, what are you doing has to be to clear whole world! I can translate a written form. And I do not understand YOUTUBE! You have to understand that such as I the Majority! We have a lot of money! But I do not want to learn English!!!
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on March 24, 2017, 04:08:59 am
I'm Russian! I do not know English! That, what are you doing has to be to clear whole world! I can translate a written form. And I do not understand YOUTUBE! You have to understand that such as I the Majority! We have a lot of money! But I do not want to learn English!!!

DeBuNe wallet will be multi language and support also different user registrations and login systems.

We don't have translations in Russian for now, but we will put bounties for translations in as many languages as possible :)

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on March 28, 2017, 08:32:16 pm
Strange! Even I already know that DeBuNe the huge company with great partners (City Bank and many others). Capitalization already several tens of millions of dollars... Only 250000 events in the market!!! 1 event chtoit about 12 dollars now... Why on AE 30 NXT? Miracles!!! A primary subject of the company - protection against fraud at world level.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on March 29, 2017, 01:04:34 am
Strange! Even I already know that DeBuNe the huge company with great partners (City Bank and many others). Capitalization already several tens of millions of dollars... Only 250000 events in the market!!! 1 event chtoit about 12 dollars now... Why on AE 30 NXT? Miracles!!! A primary subject of the company - protection against fraud at world level.
What do you mean by event? Does it mean asset? How do you find the 12$ per asset?
The price of DeBuNe is at a low price because when DeBuNe started, the plan was different than it is now and we actually didn't see it evolve as it was planned.
Roberto won a spot at FinTech in Singapore and the company evolved to a different structure where his team benefited from VC (venture capital) but we still don't know where DeBuNe stands in the light of Digital Billions because information was scarce and mostly protected from being disclosed by Roberto C. because of NDA's (Non Diclosure Acts) that he had with clients or associates with the multiple new projects.
DeBuNe is only a small part of the bigger picture we will get when there will be an ICO within the next few weeks.
And we can only hope that DeBuNe asset holders will be rewarded when swapping for the new asset.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on March 29, 2017, 01:22:57 am
DeBuNe большая часть.. Огромная!!!
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on March 29, 2017, 01:39:27 am
 warned all! You will cry then.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on March 29, 2017, 02:26:17 am
warned all! You will cry then.
What's your warning? Buy or not?
Who will cry? Those who don't have DeBuNe asset?
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on March 29, 2017, 02:51:05 am
Не покупайте! Я уже купил...
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on March 29, 2017, 03:01:33 am
Многие?
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: farl4bit on March 29, 2017, 09:24:27 am
Не покупайте! Я уже купил...

Многие?

Please English on the forum. Or go to https://nxtforum.org/k-(russian)/

Thank you.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on March 30, 2017, 04:44:41 am
NXT in Singapore with Digital Billions:
https://www.facebook.com/digitalbillions/photos/pcb.370041406702093/370039750035592/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on April 03, 2017, 11:59:48 am
It is written on the website DeBuNe...
Dividends of the net revenue will be paid monthly starting at the end of July 2015 (for the income of the month of July 2015), if DeBuNe is operative (even in beta/test version by then). A max delay of 6 months can be applied in case strong technical reasons impede DeBuNe from operating properly even on its basic functions.
  Already there passed 7 months...???
Roberto???
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on April 04, 2017, 08:49:04 am
The concern is legit, if you didn't follow things in detail. The website is due to be updated, a few things have changed. In the race to self finance DeBuNe (we collected USD20k only in the initial asset distribution, so we had to finance the rest ourselves. Not like Waves that has collected some 16M dollars...) we got in many interesting projects, and always paid dividends. The actual app will be released after the ICO is over.

Everyone is free to buy or sell DeBuNe in the AE, we have no more assets to distribute, as 25% has been sold so far.

The ICO will soon clarify things up :)

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on April 04, 2017, 08:54:37 am
Thanks for the answer, Roberto! We will wait with great hope...
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on April 05, 2017, 09:16:56 pm
Such chance drops out 1 time in life. I live in Russia. In 1999 events of Sberbank of Russia cost 900 rubles (1 dollar-30 of trubly). I had 1000 pieces. Then money for life was necessary. I sold. Now I have no event of Sberbank... The price is 120000 rubles for 1 event... I could have one million dollars... THINK!!!
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: a7594li on April 06, 2017, 12:04:14 am
All of you will cry! Today on April 6... Remember!!!
i think so
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on April 07, 2017, 04:56:21 am
All of you will cry! Today on April 6... Remember!!!
i think so

Cry of happiness for those that have DBN
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on April 20, 2017, 11:37:58 am
Dear owner of the project! You have specified time frame 1 month since March 22! We wait on April 22 for information on ICO///
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on April 21, 2017, 12:34:55 am
Hello everyone. DeBuNe will have an ICO toward the end of the year, beginning of next year. A lot of news will be released, and there will be a distribution of the coins.

250000 will be sold in the ICO, and 250000 will be given to the asset holders with an average holding calculated in a period that will be announced (something similar to the ardor distribution).

I have put some DeBuNe assets at 19 NXT each in the AE, and 15k more will be made available in the next weeks at a higher price until a total of 250000 assets are circulating in the Nxt AE.

The ICO will sell for definitely more than 20NXT per coin, so this is an soft offer for NXT holders.

I am aware that all of you want to hold Nxt for the ardor distribution, so I don't expect an assault to the available assets for now, but once the ardor distribution is completed there will be some dump of Nxt (IMO) and it may be a good moment to convert in DeBuNe assets.

Well, this is pretty much all I can say for now...

R

On the 13th of august 2015 the price of 1 NXT was $0.009924.
1 DeBuNe asset at 20 NXT would have been roughly 20 cents.
Today NXT is at $0.020068 and DeBuNe is exchanging at 50 NXT. So the price of 1 DeBuNe asset is exactly 1 dollar.
I wonder how this is going to be taken into account at the time of the ICO?
Are we going to get news from the upcoming ICO soon?
Any news would be greatly apreciated  ;D   
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on April 21, 2017, 03:30:29 am
Hello everyone. DeBuNe will have an ICO toward the end of the year, beginning of next year. A lot of news will be released, and there will be a distribution of the coins.

250000 will be sold in the ICO, and 250000 will be given to the asset holders with an average holding calculated in a period that will be announced (something similar to the ardor distribution).

I have put some DeBuNe assets at 19 NXT each in the AE, and 15k more will be made available in the next weeks at a higher price until a total of 250000 assets are circulating in the Nxt AE.

The ICO will sell for definitely more than 20NXT per coin, so this is an soft offer for NXT holders.

I am aware that all of you want to hold Nxt for the ardor distribution, so I don't expect an assault to the available assets for now, but once the ardor distribution is completed there will be some dump of Nxt (IMO) and it may be a good moment to convert in DeBuNe assets.

Well, this is pretty much all I can say for now...

R

On the 13th of august 2015 the price of 1 NXT was $0.009924.
1 DeBuNe asset at 20 NXT would have been roughly 20 cents.
Today NXT is at $0.020068 and DeBuNe is exchanging at 50 NXT. So the price of 1 DeBuNe asset is exactly 1 dollar.
I wonder how this is going to be taken into account at the time of the ICO?
Are we going to get news from the upcoming ICO soon?
Any news would be greatly apreciated  ;D

I was ding that calculation exactly yesterday :) Yes, the ICO has tokens at a much higher price. All I can say is that we are working hard to the last preparations, and those of you that own AE of DBN will really enjoy it!!!

It is not easy get all right on the ICO, and DeBuNe will roll out on various phases to arrive at the full Decentralised Business Network. Each phase is a great product. The ICO will begin with the first, very cool one (nothing like this seen in Blockchain yet).

DeBuNe wallet will connect to several blockchains, the ICO token represents crypto (pre-distributed at Genesis block) for 2 blockchains, with different values. Not sure I can say much more for now ;)

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on April 21, 2017, 11:35:01 pm
Roberto,
I wonder whether Digital Billions as we see you speaking here: https://www.facebook.com/digitalbillions/ behind the acronym DBS, has any relation to DBS bank as we see the same logo there:
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/digital-push-allows-dbs-to-take-on-big-countries-ceo-7913010.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on April 22, 2017, 01:51:36 am
Roberto,
I wonder whether Digital Billions as we see you speaking here: https://www.facebook.com/digitalbillions/ behind the acronym DBS, has any relation to DBS bank as we see the same logo there:
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/digital-push-allows-dbs-to-take-on-big-countries-ceo-7913010.

Yes, that was a speech hosted at DBS Bank, for the International Chamber of Commerce Academy, where I spoke on the use of Blockchain for supply chain and international trade :)

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: trollstocker on April 22, 2017, 01:17:58 pm
is the new exchange open yet?
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on April 23, 2017, 02:40:48 am
is the new exchange open yet?

what exchange?
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: trollstocker on April 23, 2017, 02:21:19 pm
Sorry Rob been out of the loop for about 2 years with NXT..reading up on ARDOR now..You been busy some very impressive things you folk are working on at Digital Billions!...
http://trpc.biz/wp-content/uploads/Joseph_TRPC-Blockchain-and-Its-Applications.pdf

been a DeBuNe supporter for over 2 years now..keep up the great work!
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on April 29, 2017, 12:18:09 am
Roberto! I want that you 1 time in недедю contacted for delivery of news! I understand that now it is favorable to you to be silent. But I want that you spoke...
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on April 29, 2017, 08:33:08 am
Roberto! I want that you 1 time in недедю contacted for delivery of news! I understand that now it is favorable to you to be silent. But I want that you spoke...

I feel you. Soon. VERY soon. hold on just a couple of months maximum...

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on May 13, 2017, 02:00:29 pm
Roberto//isn't pleasant to me your silence. The price has fallen. The most devoted investors at a loss.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on May 15, 2017, 03:49:41 pm
Roberto//isn't pleasant to me your silence. The price has fallen. The most devoted investors at a loss.

Many things do not depend on me... we are working.

If price felt one should buy :)

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on May 15, 2017, 04:03:16 pm
But at least there is a little information... It is simply offensive to look at growth of NXT and to think of bad!
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: matreshka on May 16, 2017, 05:55:40 pm
Hello. I for the first time here. Whether prompt somebody, please, this project and what future is live? How it is possible to take shares? I have understood nothing from last posts... Thanks.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on May 16, 2017, 08:21:01 pm
Hello. I for the first time here. Whether prompt somebody, please, this project and what future is live? How it is possible to take shares? I have understood nothing from last posts... Thanks.
You have to install NXT wallet first. Send some NXT to your wallet and look for: Asset Id: 6926770479287491943 to see the exchange for DeBuNe.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: matreshka on May 16, 2017, 08:37:49 pm
And whether there is a sense? Project live? The price has fallen!
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on May 16, 2017, 09:51:40 pm
The price has fallen in NXT, but in terms of $ it's more expensive to buy DeBuNe at 20 NXT today than it was to buy this asset a few weeks back at 50 NXT.
The main problem buying assets is that we don't know how the increase in the value of the token or coin will be taken into account when it'll be time to swap the asset for a new one.
 
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: matreshka on May 17, 2017, 02:14:41 am
Exchange will be? On what? When?
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on May 17, 2017, 03:54:48 am
Exchange will be? On what? When?
According to Roberto it should be within the next 6 weeks that there will be a new ICO for a new asset (giving an advantage to the DeBuNe asset holders). To get an idea of the evolution from DeBuNe at the beginning watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGpgYWP4DNw&feature=youtu.be
Read past posts like this one:
https://nxtforum.org/debune/(ann)-debune-between-top-30-startups-for-fintech-startup-bootcamp-singapore-2015/
See DeBuNe today, part of a bigger structure in Singapore:
http://digitalbillions.com/
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on May 17, 2017, 05:48:10 am
Exchange will be? On what? When?
According to Roberto it should be within the next 6 weeks that there will be a new ICO for a new asset (giving an advantage to the DeBuNe asset holders). To get an idea of the evolution from DeBuNe at the beginning watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGpgYWP4DNw&feature=youtu.be
Read past posts like this one:
https://nxtforum.org/debune/(ann)-debune-between-top-30-startups-for-fintech-startup-bootcamp-singapore-2015/
See DeBuNe today, part of a bigger structure in Singapore:
http://digitalbillions.com/

Thanks for replying :) I am traveling so I apologise for the delay in replies

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on May 17, 2017, 06:01:13 am

Thanks for replying :) I am traveling so I apologise for the delay in replies

R
You're welcome  :) keep up the good work.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: matreshka on May 19, 2017, 08:08:06 pm
I have a feeling that Roberto has conceived something huge... I think that at the moment there is an inadequate assessment. Debun is connected with NXT on technology
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: matreshka on May 27, 2017, 10:23:47 pm
capodieci !!! There will be ICO or won't be?
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on May 29, 2017, 07:08:00 am
capodieci !!! There will be ICO or won't be?

yes. Now things are stuck on an issue that don't depends on me... soon, soon...

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on June 07, 2017, 03:53:04 pm
DeBuNe will have own blockchain? It is a coin? She will bargain later at other exchanges?

DeBuNe ICO is coming soon, we are almost ready and will start promoting it in about 1mo. Who owns DeBuNe assets will have a deadline to exchange them for ICO coins.

After ICO a new genesis will have the distribution as per ICO sales and AE token exchanged (needless to say ICO will sell for more than the AE valuation).

If ARDOR will be ready, then DeBuNe can be under ARDOR, else independent but still married with Nxt :)
It in force?

DeBuNe is above all a project to value Nxt (the technology, not much the coin even if I hope it will happen consequently).

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on June 07, 2017, 04:03:54 pm
It still in force?
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on June 08, 2017, 07:42:09 am
It still in force?

Full! :)
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: trollstocker on June 09, 2017, 04:05:12 pm
My DeBuNe coins worth more than 6.00 USD Each how is that possible LOL...   :o.0134x45  6.03 :o holy cow whens the ICO coming!!?? :o :o
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on June 09, 2017, 06:35:47 pm
My DeBuNe coins worth 5.00 USD Each how is that possible LOL...   :o.012x45  5.40 :o holy cow whens the ICO coming!!?? :o :o

This waiting time for the ICO is quite frustrating, especially since most altcoins are gaining in value every day and we are left in the dark with DeBuNe. Hopefully soon will know what's at stake.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: trollstocker on June 09, 2017, 09:33:39 pm
Well i am quite impressed with Digital Billions and Roberto..They are sitting in the catbird seat in Singapore! and have a seasoned staff for sure! Ive been Hodling since 2015 and i know what its like with NDAS if he says anything before launch of ICO it could screw it all up and everyone loses!
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on June 10, 2017, 05:02:10 am
Not an easy thing this ICO :)

Plus othe issues added to the all thing, bear with me, we will be huge!
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: trollstocker on June 10, 2017, 12:52:57 pm
It's hard for us to think INVESTMENT in cryptoland where shitcoins are trading at 100 times more than they will ever be worth but won't be around in a year!..Now is the time to pick the good projects with smart developers and people and be Patient!..REAL businesses take lots of work and time to develop..

Nxt Ardor and Digital Billions have the people behind them..so we are all along for the ride..Lets help any any way we can and make sure your seatbelts are fastened and tray tables are in their up right position
 :)
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on June 11, 2017, 01:19:21 am
Seen on the Web:

– PARTNERS
THE INTERNATIONAL NETWORK
Interlogica is currently collaborating on international projects with partners experienced in blockchain applications such as Digital Billions based in Singapore for the Asia-Pacific market and Stacked Venture Builder LLC for the American market.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on June 13, 2017, 02:57:44 pm
Everything is great! All those who wanted sell-sold. Who wants to purchase - please 35 NXT. Nobody knows date of a swap... It will be very painful to all who did not trust (RUS).
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Thames on June 16, 2017, 07:43:38 am
Not an easy thing this ICO :)

Plus othe issues added to the all thing, bear with me, we will be huge!
At some point, people have to come to the conclusion, this wont happen. How much longer are you allowing this NDA to dictate what you can and cant say? 
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on June 16, 2017, 10:24:34 am
Not an easy thing this ICO :)

Plus othe issues added to the all thing, bear with me, we will be huge!
At some point, people have to come to the conclusion, this wont happen. How much longer are you allowing this NDA to dictate what you can and cant say?

I believe it's postponed again. But it appears more definite.

Seen on "Linkedin":
Roberto Capodieci
Blockchain expert - Founder @ DeBuNe.org - Now cooking something AMAZING, news in August!
DeBuNe.org   De Amicis
Province de Bali, Indonésie  + de 500 + de 500 relations
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Thames on June 16, 2017, 11:51:35 am
Not an easy thing this ICO :)

Plus othe issues added to the all thing, bear with me, we will be huge!
At some point, people have to come to the conclusion, this wont happen. How much longer are you allowing this NDA to dictate what you can and cant say?

I believe it's postponed again. But it appears more definite.

Seen on "Linkedin":
Roberto Capodieci
Blockchain expert - Founder @ DeBuNe.org - Now cooking something AMAZING, news in August!
DeBuNe.org   De Amicis
Province de Bali, Indonésie  + de 500 + de 500 relations

Yeah, a nearly year long pre-ann of a yet to be ICO, and he is still publishing this vacuous meaningless shilling.  ::)  IMO, the/a NDA is something to hide behind, when the original intention has obviously failed.
@Robert. You are a good guy, with perfectly decent intentions, but when August news does not happen, would it be unreasonable for me to think you are FOS, incompetent, or both?   
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on June 17, 2017, 08:35:09 am
If all depended by me, it would be already up and running.

It is NOT a 1 man show, and I am blocked on certain things by others.

Believe me, I am doing all I can to remove this obstacles and move on with all that needs to be done.

Everyone is free to hodl, sell, buy in AE until this happen.

I am meeting a lawyer to see alternative possibilities, but in a way or another the ICO will take place and DeBuNe will be completed.

August is indeed a key month.

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on June 22, 2017, 01:00:36 pm
Interesting video of Roberto talking about blockchain:

Applying Blockchain Technologies to IoT Panel at IoT Asia 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBi143yBwZw
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on June 22, 2017, 10:28:42 pm
Jean-Daniel Gauthier and Martijn Buurman who both started the adventure with you with DeBuNe seem to have left the boat of Digital Billions.

Martijn Buurman is now blockchain developer for https://www.tenx.tech/

I bet they will have a successful ICO and will take a big chunk of the yet to come Digital Billions' market.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on June 25, 2017, 03:29:28 pm
What's happening with Digital Billions, Roberto? You ain't anymore in the team. Can't see your friendly face on the board. ???
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on June 26, 2017, 12:39:47 pm
What's happening with Digital Billions, Roberto? You ain't anymore in the team. Can't see your friendly face on the board. ???

This is correct. and one of the reason of the delay :)

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: rubenbc on June 26, 2017, 12:49:56 pm
What's happening with Digital Billions, Roberto? You ain't anymore in the team. Can't see your friendly face on the board. ???

This is correct. and one of the reason of the delay :)

Hi Roberto, as investor, this new situation is good or bad.. Could you provide a few words more?
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on June 27, 2017, 12:34:37 pm
What's happening with Digital Billions, Roberto? You ain't anymore in the team. Can't see your friendly face on the board. ???

This is correct. and one of the reason of the delay :)

Hi Roberto, as investor, this new situation is good or bad.. Could you provide a few words more?
Thanks in advance

It is good as I take back full control and actually move on with the ICO, it just delay things, unless we all agree to a rebranding ;)

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on July 02, 2017, 01:36:27 am
What's happening with Digital Billions, Roberto? You ain't anymore in the team. Can't see your friendly face on the board. ???

This is correct. and one of the reason of the delay :)

Hi Roberto, as investor, this new situation is good or bad.. Could you provide a few words more?
Thanks in advance

It is good as I take back full control and actually move on with the ICO, it just delay things, unless we all agree to a rebranding ;)

R

Rebranding? Is that a question to DeBuNe's assets holders? (That wouldn't be a problem I guess - You know what's best)
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on July 03, 2017, 11:23:28 am
Rebranding? Is that a question to DeBuNe's assets holders? (That wouldn't be a problem I guess - You know what's best)

Yes it meant to be a question to the asset holders, as it is also a possible strategy. I am working with lawyer to retain the brand, which appears to be always been just with me... so it may even not be an issue, just better be sure than sorry...

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: alexandr207 on July 11, 2017, 03:39:44 pm
I am glad to all to tell that ICO begins!!! http://debune.org/
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on August 07, 2017, 11:43:28 pm
It seems that the ICO will be on the 31st of August :)
https://blockchainzoo.com/
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on August 08, 2017, 12:33:41 pm
It seems that the ICO will be on the 31st of August :)
https://blockchainzoo.com/

hahahaha no, unrelated :)
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on September 01, 2017, 03:25:31 am


Not an easy thing this ICO :)

Plus othe issues added to the all thing, bear with me, we will be huge!

Seen on "Linkedin":
Roberto Capodieci
Blockchain expert - Founder @ DeBuNe.org - Now cooking something AMAZING, news in August!
DeBuNe.org   De Amicis
Province de Bali, Indonésie  + de 500 + de 500 relations

August is gone. We didn't get any news  :(
Anything to expect from DeBuNe soon?
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on September 27, 2017, 11:00:23 am
ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap

ORIGINAL TREAD:

https://nxtforum.org/debune/erc20-debune-tokens-swap/


Getting ready for the ICO!

Now (27 September 2017)
1DBN = 35NXT = 2.45 US Dollar
1NXT = 0.00001684BTC = 0.07 US Dollar
1ETH = 290 US Dollar
thus
1DBN = 0.0085 ETH

The swap of AE DeBuNe toward ERC20 Ethereum tokens is at 1:1.5
(for each 1DBN from the AE you get 1.5DBN ERC20 tokens)

AE <> Token swap will end the 30 of October 2017!

DeBuNe Pre ICO will start the 1st of November and will sell 1DBN at 0.02ETH (for large quantities).


HOW TO CLAIM YOUR ERC20 DeBuNe tokens

First, take note of the addresses of the AE and the ERC20 token:

ERC20 Token: 0x570295aeC9b7196300885eC594049c1C50fEB09c

Account: NXT-GQ27-DD53-YM6K-ER6HK
DBN Asset Id: 6926770479287491943

Send your DeBuNe assets to NXT-GQ27-DD53-YM6K-ER6HK adding in a message (either public or encrypted) the Ethereum wallet where you want to receive the ERC20 token.

Requests will be collected until the end of the month of October 2017, and the ERC20 tokens will be sent only after the ICO is started.

Requests of swap received after the end of October MAY not be fulfilled.

For those of you that have heard about BlockchainZoo and are interested in ZOO tokens, send me a message to rob at bcz.ooo

Roberto Capodieci
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: farl4bit on September 27, 2017, 06:29:58 pm
Can you give more information about your choice please? People have been waiting for a year for the ICO updates and now it's ICO time and you are moving to Ethereum. It's your choice of course, but could you explain it more?
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on September 29, 2017, 11:05:51 am
Guys, you all know my devotion for Nxt since day 1 (or even -1 for that matter).

There are MANY reasons why finally the DeBuNe fundraising is in Ethereum and not (again?) in the Nxt AE.

Some are practical:

1) liquidity in ETH is much higher than liquidity in NXT
2) audience in Ethereum is much wider than in Nxt
3) ICOs ARE in Ethereum
4) It is a GOLDEN opportunity to grab attention of the wide Ethereum community and point their attention to Nxt/Ardor

Then there are other reasons, and I am not sure I can publicly say all them here. Those of you that know me directly and have spoken to me, are free to ping me in Telegram, and I will provide a private explanation. Which is sad, hurts me A LOT, and is concerning (IMO) for the future of Nxt/Ardor. Partially another story.

DeBuNe is happening, and we need real cash to make it happen properly. I would never build DeBuNe on Ethereum, this is not a secret, and as Rubenaco points out, I am not a fan. But here I can collect another USD 20k worth of NXT (the total amount of funds collected so far), and that will not bring DeBuNe ahead so much. Let's be honest, that's the truth. Ethereum has the liquidity I wish Nxt had.

You all should help DeBuNe to collect some serious funding via Ethereum. Enough to fund the development. If there was the chance to collect this in Nxt, I wouldn't have even considered Ethereum for the fundraising.

Cheers, and sorry if this fundraising choice has disappointed some of you...

Roberto
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on September 29, 2017, 07:37:25 pm
Those are valid reasons.
Fuhermore all who have invested in DeBuNe are getting a good return for their investment this way and that's the most important.
I am also a strong believer in NXT/Ardor and use my NXT wallets frequently, but see the points you are making, Roberto.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: rubenbc on September 29, 2017, 09:28:56 pm
Of course those are a clearly valid reasons but conditions has changed a lot and there are more than 200old investors who needed an explanation after years waiting for the harvest.

The last DeBuNe bunch was sold, last year, at 40NXT, I don't know if everyone has won money  ???

Btw, Roberto  how will you manage the dividend system? You will execute in Nxt or you will take the risk running smart "friendly"  contracts in eth network...

Regards
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on October 01, 2017, 04:02:11 am
DeBuNe will have its own blockchain. We have done a lot of work on it already, all financed by myself.

Why not on Nxt? The reason is very sad, I will disclose at due time. I would have loved to work with Nxt, but love must be mutual :)

Anyways, to answer your question, ERC20 tokens will represent the use DeBuNe blockchain. To comply with current tokens regulations the token are sold at a convenient price for the use of a service that has a higher market price later on. And can be traded between users.

Later ERC20 will be swapped for DBN.

More on this in a detailed document when the ICO is presented.

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Sebastien256 on October 01, 2017, 04:06:57 am
Have you look at the possibility of an Ardor childchain?
Because it look like a waste of ressources to start a blockchain from scratch (i mean security wise)
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on October 03, 2017, 12:42:36 am
Have you look at the possibility of an Ardor childchain?
Because it look like a waste of ressources to start a blockchain from scratch (i mean security wise)

We need custom functionalities that need custom code.

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Sebastien256 on October 03, 2017, 12:47:20 am
Have you look at the possibility of an Ardor childchain?
Because it look like a waste of ressources to start a blockchain from scratch (i mean security wise)

We need custom functionalities that need custom code.

R

Jelurida has said that they can build custom codes and functionalities for Ardor child chains, if need. Have you look up with them? Maybe not by reading your previous post ???.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on October 03, 2017, 01:06:09 am
Have you look at the possibility of an Ardor childchain?
Because it look like a waste of ressources to start a blockchain from scratch (i mean security wise)

We need custom functionalities that need custom code.

R

Jelurida has said that they can build custom codes and functionalities for Ardor child chains, if need. Have you look up with them? Maybe not by reading your previous post ???.

Believe me, I did try. I am an associate of the Nxt foundation and been trying to help for years Nxt, then Nxt Foundation, and lastly Jelurida, but mostly with them all I can say is that don't think in the same way...

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on October 03, 2017, 01:06:36 am
ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap

ORIGINAL TREAD:

https://nxtforum.org/debune/erc20-debune-tokens-swap/


Getting ready for the ICO!

Now (27 September 2017)
1DBN = 35NXT = 2.45 US Dollar
1NXT = 0.00001684BTC = 0.07 US Dollar
1ETH = 290 US Dollar
thus
1DBN = 0.0085 ETH

The swap of AE DeBuNe toward ERC20 Ethereum tokens is at 1:1.5
(for each 1DBN from the AE you get 1.5DBN ERC20 tokens)

AE <> Token swap will end the 30 of October 2017!

DeBuNe Pre ICO will start the 1st of November and will sell 1DBN at 0.02ETH (for large quantities).


HOW TO CLAIM YOUR ERC20 DeBuNe tokens

First, take note of the addresses of the AE and the ERC20 token:

ERC20 Token: 0x570295aeC9b7196300885eC594049c1C50fEB09c

Account: NXT-GQ27-DD53-YM6K-ER6HK
DBN Asset Id: 6926770479287491943

Send your DeBuNe assets to NXT-GQ27-DD53-YM6K-ER6HK adding in a message (either public or encrypted) the Ethereum wallet where you want to receive the ERC20 token.

Requests will be collected until the end of the month of October 2017, and the ERC20 tokens will be sent only after the ICO is started.

Requests of swap received after the end of October MAY not be fulfilled.

For those of you that have heard about BlockchainZoo and are interested in ZOO tokens, send me a message to rob at bcz.ooo

Roberto Capodieci

NOTICE FOR THOSE THAT DON'T WANT TO USE ERC20 / ETHEREUM. Update:

A) Some of you have contacted me asking how to avoid the swap with the ERC20 tokens and swap directly with the DeBuNe blockchain tokens.

B) Some of you simply don't want to deal with Ethereum. I understand and appreciate this.

I want to clarify that DeBuNe is NOT being implemented with Ethereum.

Case A) I am open to this possibility, and I apologise for not thinking about it beforehand. In this case return the AE token from an Nxt account you will be able to use in the future to send me the DeBuNe blckchain account where I will send the matching DBN.

Case B) For those of you that prefer to skip the ICO in Ethereum, I been suggested to talk with Komodo Platform to run a BTC ICO there. I am absolutely open to this, and I understand this makes many of you happier. I will discuss with Komodo the how to, and if all is ok we will proceed to offer DeBuNe also there. Note that in this 3 years I have delivered several working Blockchain projects. I have made a good estimate that for a successful phase 1 of DeBuNe we will need at least USD2M for initial work and bounties. For as much as I love Nxt I understand that is a hard goal to reach this in the AE, thus my intention to move to ERC20, and I am super open to working with Komodo for those of you that prefer not to use Ethereum.

Please let me know if you need more clarifications and have more suggestions, I will be happy to do my best to make it right to everyone.

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Evan on October 03, 2017, 07:09:07 am

4) It is a GOLDEN opportunity to grab attention of the wide Ethereum community and point their attention to Nxt/Ardor


I wonder how this could be done if DeBuNe is moving out of Nxt/Ardor
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: rubenbc on October 03, 2017, 07:15:30 am
ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap

ORIGINAL TREAD:

https://nxtforum.org/debune/erc20-debune-tokens-swap/


Getting ready for the ICO!

Now (27 September 2017)
1DBN = 35NXT = 2.45 US Dollar
1NXT = 0.00001684BTC = 0.07 US Dollar
1ETH = 290 US Dollar
thus
1DBN = 0.0085 ETH

The swap of AE DeBuNe toward ERC20 Ethereum tokens is at 1:1.5
(for each 1DBN from the AE you get 1.5DBN ERC20 tokens)

AE <> Token swap will end the 30 of October 2017!

DeBuNe Pre ICO will start the 1st of November and will sell 1DBN at 0.02ETH (for large quantities).


HOW TO CLAIM YOUR ERC20 DeBuNe tokens

First, take note of the addresses of the AE and the ERC20 token:

ERC20 Token: 0x570295aeC9b7196300885eC594049c1C50fEB09c

Account: NXT-GQ27-DD53-YM6K-ER6HK
DBN Asset Id: 6926770479287491943

Send your DeBuNe assets to NXT-GQ27-DD53-YM6K-ER6HK adding in a message (either public or encrypted) the Ethereum wallet where you want to receive the ERC20 token.

Requests will be collected until the end of the month of October 2017, and the ERC20 tokens will be sent only after the ICO is started.

Requests of swap received after the end of October MAY not be fulfilled.

For those of you that have heard about BlockchainZoo and are interested in ZOO tokens, send me a message to rob at bcz.ooo

Roberto Capodieci

NOTICE FOR THOSE THAT DON'T WANT TO USE ERC20 / ETHEREUM. Update:

A) Some of you have contacted me asking how to avoid the swap with the ERC20 tokens and swap directly with the DeBuNe blockchain tokens.

B) Some of you simply don't want to deal with Ethereum. I understand and appreciate this.

I want to clarify that DeBuNe is NOT being implemented with Ethereum.

Case A) I am open to this possibility, and I apologise for not thinking about it beforehand. In this case return the AE token from an Nxt account you will be able to use in the future to send me the DeBuNe blckchain account where I will send the matching DBN.

Case B) For those of you that prefer to skip the ICO in Ethereum, I been suggested to talk with Komodo Platform to run a BTC ICO there. I am absolutely open to this, and I understand this makes many of you happier. I will discuss with Komodo the how to, and if all is ok we will proceed to offer DeBuNe also there. Note that in this 3 years I have delivered several working Blockchain projects. I have made a good estimate that for a successful phase 1 of DeBuNe we will need at least USD2M for initial work and bounties. For as much as I love Nxt I understand that is a hard goal to reach this in the AE, thus my intention to move to ERC20, and I am super open to working with Komodo for those of you that prefer not to use Ethereum.

Please let me know if you need more clarifications and have more suggestions, I will be happy to do my best to make it right to everyone.

R

Thanks for your consideration about point A!
Regarding point B... Using komodo (Jl777 tech) you will not make anyone happy in Nxt community, or only a few persons who don't like Nxt since time ago. If you did the point B thinking in Nxt community, I tell you that I would prefer open an account inside ethereum network...
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Ludom on October 03, 2017, 08:06:32 am
@rubenaco : You can't speak for the entire Nxt community. Some of the old Nxt community and early DeBuNe investors are involved in Komodo platform.

Capodieci proposes few different solutions to invest in DeBuNe :

- You can buy DeBuNe assets on Nxt platform and swap it when his platform is ready. (yes that is a great possibility to invest without Ethereum or any other platform, much cheap DeBuNe assets right now)

- The Ethereum community can buy some ERC-20 assets.

- Some of Nxt community will be interested to invest with Komodo, I'm one of them.

No need to make some stupid Religion war here, everybody has a good opportunity to invest on different platforms.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: rubenbc on October 03, 2017, 10:52:16 am
@rubenaco : You can't speak for the entire Nxt community. Some of the old Nxt community and early DeBuNe investors are involved in Komodo platform.
I'm the biggest debune asset holder and Active member of Nxt community. As investor I don't want to play in Komodo network.
Have you any referee of a successful crowdsale made in komodo platform?

I don't want that extra community people with a few shares lead the direction of my investment again.

I'm protecting my DeBuNe shares, the community brand and my money :)

https://nxtforum.org/core-development-discussion/nxt-2-0-design/msg210601/#msg210601 (https://nxtforum.org/core-development-discussion/nxt-2-0-design/msg210601/#msg210601)
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on October 03, 2017, 11:04:24 am

4) It is a GOLDEN opportunity to grab attention of the wide Ethereum community and point their attention to Nxt/Ardor


I wonder how this could be done if DeBuNe is moving out of Nxt/Ardor

Just a way to collect funds... I still love and support Nxt.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Evan on October 03, 2017, 12:04:13 pm
ERC20 DeBuNe tokens swap

ORIGINAL TREAD:

https://nxtforum.org/debune/erc20-debune-tokens-swap/


Getting ready for the ICO!

Now (27 September 2017)
1DBN = 35NXT = 2.45 US Dollar
1NXT = 0.00001684BTC = 0.07 US Dollar
1ETH = 290 US Dollar
thus
1DBN = 0.0085 ETH

The swap of AE DeBuNe toward ERC20 Ethereum tokens is at 1:1.5
(for each 1DBN from the AE you get 1.5DBN ERC20 tokens)

AE <> Token swap will end the 30 of October 2017!

DeBuNe Pre ICO will start the 1st of November and will sell 1DBN at 0.02ETH (for large quantities).


HOW TO CLAIM YOUR ERC20 DeBuNe tokens

First, take note of the addresses of the AE and the ERC20 token:

ERC20 Token: 0x570295aeC9b7196300885eC594049c1C50fEB09c

Account: NXT-GQ27-DD53-YM6K-ER6HK
DBN Asset Id: 6926770479287491943

Send your DeBuNe assets to NXT-GQ27-DD53-YM6K-ER6HK adding in a message (either public or encrypted) the Ethereum wallet where you want to receive the ERC20 token.

Requests will be collected until the end of the month of October 2017, and the ERC20 tokens will be sent only after the ICO is started.

Requests of swap received after the end of October MAY not be fulfilled.

For those of you that have heard about BlockchainZoo and are interested in ZOO tokens, send me a message to rob at bcz.ooo

Roberto Capodieci

NOTICE FOR THOSE THAT DON'T WANT TO USE ERC20 / ETHEREUM. Update:

A) Some of you have contacted me asking how to avoid the swap with the ERC20 tokens and swap directly with the DeBuNe blockchain tokens.

B) Some of you simply don't want to deal with Ethereum. I understand and appreciate this.

I want to clarify that DeBuNe is NOT being implemented with Ethereum.

Case A) I am open to this possibility, and I apologise for not thinking about it beforehand. In this case return the AE token from an Nxt account you will be able to use in the future to send me the DeBuNe blckchain account where I will send the matching DBN.

Case B) For those of you that prefer to skip the ICO in Ethereum, I been suggested to talk with Komodo Platform to run a BTC ICO there. I am absolutely open to this, and I understand this makes many of you happier. I will discuss with Komodo the how to, and if all is ok we will proceed to offer DeBuNe also there. Note that in this 3 years I have delivered several working Blockchain projects. I have made a good estimate that for a successful phase 1 of DeBuNe we will need at least USD2M for initial work and bounties. For as much as I love Nxt I understand that is a hard goal to reach this in the AE, thus my intention to move to ERC20, and I am super open to working with Komodo for those of you that prefer not to use Ethereum.

Please let me know if you need more clarifications and have more suggestions, I will be happy to do my best to make it right to everyone.

R

Thanks for case A.

I object to case B. If it has to be decided some way, do a vote on Nxt based on DeBuNe asset shares.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Evan on October 03, 2017, 12:12:41 pm

4) It is a GOLDEN opportunity to grab attention of the wide Ethereum community and point their attention to Nxt/Ardor


I wonder how this could be done if DeBuNe is moving out of Nxt/Ardor

Just a way to collect funds... I still love and support Nxt.

It will be great if the fund collecting happens on Nxt AE and Ethereum at the same time and both the tokens can be swapped to DeBuNe blockchain tokens later.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: rubenbc on October 03, 2017, 12:16:52 pm

4) It is a GOLDEN opportunity to grab attention of the wide Ethereum community and point their attention to Nxt/Ardor


I wonder how this could be done if DeBuNe is moving out of Nxt/Ardor

Just a way to collect funds... I still love and support Nxt.

It will be great if the fund collecting happens on Nxt AE and Ethereum at the same time and both the tokens can be swapped to DeBuNe blockchain tokens later.
+1440
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Jose on October 03, 2017, 03:09:58 pm
Personally, I've been holding DeBuNes for years. I took part in the original ICO back in January 2015 (16NXT/DBN, the current price is at 6.6NXT/DBN), and even bought some more assets in Nxt's Asset Exchange later (in the 2nd ICO and outside the ICO) during all this looong time (almost 3 years). I did it because I liked the project, I trusted Roberto and because it was also good for Nxt. And Roberto has always been a big supporter for Nxt. So I though it was a win-win situation. I hodl! even when the price was going down or when very few information was shared.

With that said, I'm sorry, I must say I don't like the idea of being forced to move from Nxt to Ethereum nor Komodo (nor Waves! ;) ). But yes, that's only my personal opinion.

I wasn't even expecting DeBuNe (was anybody?) to build another blockchain outside Nxt/Ardor for this business. I don't know if I like the idea. Because if this project isn't using Nxt for funding, nor for building the ecosystem, I can't see how it's related to Nxt/Ardor anymore. Maybe we are even chatting in the wrong forum. But maybe more information would clear things up for me.

PS: And yes, I'll have to accept your final decision because nobody is going to sell now their assets at >90% loss after all this time ::)
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Evan on October 04, 2017, 11:06:51 am

4) It is a GOLDEN opportunity to grab attention of the wide Ethereum community and point their attention to Nxt/Ardor


I wonder how this could be done if DeBuNe is moving out of Nxt/Ardor

Just a way to collect funds... I still love and support Nxt.

It will be great if the fund collecting happens on Nxt AE and Ethereum at the same time and both the tokens can be swapped to DeBuNe blockchain tokens later.

If you want to disable trade during the ico, Nxt controllable currency can be used as what is done in ignis ico. DeBuNe asset can be swapped to the currency before ico

Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on October 04, 2017, 11:47:31 pm
Personally, I've been holding DeBuNes for years. I took part in the original ICO back in January 2015 (16NXT/DBN, the current price is at 6.6NXT/DBN), and even bought some more assets in Nxt's Asset Exchange later (in the 2nd ICO and outside the ICO) during all this looong time (almost 3 years). I did it because I liked the project, I trusted Roberto and because it was also good for Nxt. And Roberto has always been a big supporter for Nxt. So I though it was a win-win situation. I hodl! even when the price was going down or when very few information was shared.

With that said, I'm sorry, I must say I don't like the idea of being forced to move from Nxt to Ethereum nor Komodo (nor Waves! ;) ). But yes, that's only my personal opinion.

I wasn't even expecting DeBuNe (was anybody?) to build another blockchain outside Nxt/Ardor for this business. I don't know if I like the idea. Because if this project isn't using Nxt for funding, nor for building the ecosystem, I can't see how it's related to Nxt/Ardor anymore. Maybe we are even chatting in the wrong forum. But maybe more information would clear things up for me.

PS: And yes, I'll have to accept your final decision because nobody is going to sell now their assets at >90% loss after all this time ::)

NOTICE FOR THOSE THAT DON'T WANT TO USE ERC20 / ETHEREUM. Update:

A) Some of you have contacted me asking how to avoid the swap with the ERC20 tokens and swap directly with the DeBuNe blockchain tokens.

B) Some of you simply don't want to deal with Ethereum. I understand and appreciate this.

I want to clarify that DeBuNe is NOT being implemented with Ethereum.

Case A) I am open to this possibility, and I apologise for not thinking about it beforehand. In this case return the AE token from an Nxt account you will be able to use in the future to send me the DeBuNe blckchain account where I will send the matching DBN.

Case B) For those of you that prefer to skip the ICO in Ethereum, I been suggested to talk with Komodo Platform to run a BTC ICO there. I am absolutely open to this, and I understand this makes many of you happier. I will discuss with Komodo the how to, and if all is ok we will proceed to offer DeBuNe also there. Note that in this 3 years I have delivered several working Blockchain projects. I have made a good estimate that for a successful phase 1 of DeBuNe we will need at least USD2M for initial work and bounties. For as much as I love Nxt I understand that is a hard goal to reach this in the AE, thus my intention to move to ERC20, and I am super open to working with Komodo for those of you that prefer not to use Ethereum.

Please let me know if you need more clarifications and have more suggestions, I will be happy to do my best to make it right to everyone.

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on October 04, 2017, 11:49:46 pm

4) It is a GOLDEN opportunity to grab attention of the wide Ethereum community and point their attention to Nxt/Ardor


I wonder how this could be done if DeBuNe is moving out of Nxt/Ardor

Just a way to collect funds... I still love and support Nxt.

It will be great if the fund collecting happens on Nxt AE and Ethereum at the same time and both the tokens can be swapped to DeBuNe blockchain tokens later.

If you want to disable trade during the ico, Nxt controllable currency can be used as what is done in ignis ico. DeBuNe asset can be swapped to the currency before ico

I could issue a new asset in this case. Is there a currency setting to have a way to stop trading? I missed this...

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Evan on October 05, 2017, 05:50:50 am

4) It is a GOLDEN opportunity to grab attention of the wide Ethereum community and point their attention to Nxt/Ardor


I wonder how this could be done if DeBuNe is moving out of Nxt/Ardor

Just a way to collect funds... I still love and support Nxt.

It will be great if the fund collecting happens on Nxt AE and Ethereum at the same time and both the tokens can be swapped to DeBuNe blockchain tokens later.

If you want to disable trade during the ico, Nxt controllable currency can be used as what is done in ignis ico. DeBuNe asset can be swapped to the currency before ico

I could issue a new asset in this case. Is there a currency setting to have a way to stop trading? I missed this...

R

You cannot disable trading for assets, but you can for MS currencies by just make the currency "controllable", IGNIS ICO is done in this way.
https://nxtwiki.org/wiki/Monetary_System#Controllable

Make an "exchangeable" and "controllable" MS currency, request DeBuNe asset holders to swap their assets to the currency, do the ICO after the swap finished. Then no one can trade DeBuNe during the ICO

Adjust the page for IGNIS ICO into a Nxt plugin for DeBuNe ICO could further make it more convenient for people to participate.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on October 06, 2017, 02:59:47 am
You cannot disable trading for assets, but you can for MS currencies by just make the currency "controllable", IGNIS ICO is done in this way.
https://nxtwiki.org/wiki/Monetary_System#Controllable

Make an "exchangeable" and "controllable" MS currency, request DeBuNe asset holders to swap their assets to the currency, do the ICO after the swap finished. Then no one can trade DeBuNe during the ICO

Adjust the page for IGNIS ICO into a Nxt plugin for DeBuNe ICO could further make it more convenient for people to participate.

I see 3.1.2 Controllable
Controllable currencies can only be transferred to and from the issuing account, and if also exchangeable only the issuing account can publish offers.

So users can't exchange between each other after the ICO is over...
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Jose on October 06, 2017, 07:12:22 am
...and I understand this makes MANY of you happier...
Are you sure about this point?
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on October 06, 2017, 08:49:42 am
...and I understand this makes MANY of you happier...
Are you sure about this point?

I have been made to think so. It is a long time I am "missing" from the scene here, and I don't know the politics around Nxt anymore...
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Evan on October 07, 2017, 02:55:02 am
You cannot disable trading for assets, but you can for MS currencies by just make the currency "controllable", IGNIS ICO is done in this way.
https://nxtwiki.org/wiki/Monetary_System#Controllable

Make an "exchangeable" and "controllable" MS currency, request DeBuNe asset holders to swap their assets to the currency, do the ICO after the swap finished. Then no one can trade DeBuNe during the ICO

Adjust the page for IGNIS ICO into a Nxt plugin for DeBuNe ICO could further make it more convenient for people to participate.

I see 3.1.2 Controllable
Controllable currencies can only be transferred to and from the issuing account, and if also exchangeable only the issuing account can publish offers.

So users can't exchange between each other after the ICO is over...

Yes. If you want the token exchangeable for users after the ICO, maybe you should go with asset and only sent the asset to ICO participants after the ICO is over.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: curve25519 on October 07, 2017, 03:52:44 am
Case B) For those of you that prefer to skip the ICO in Ethereum, I been suggested to talk with Komodo Platform to run a BTC ICO there. I am absolutely open to this, and I understand this makes many of you happier.
Komodo??!!?? This is a 1000x worse and more disgraceful for early supporters of Nxt seeing how it evolved & who is behind Komodo. I was one of the early investors of DeBuNe, and if you stoop so low as to require your early supporters to use Komodo, I'd rather destroy my DeBuNe assets. It is worth nothing.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on October 08, 2017, 11:11:39 am
wow. guys, I had never heard of Komodo before a few days ago when it has been suggested to me.

Honestly, ICOs are 99% made in Ethereum as there is liquidity. I am getting very confused here on what to do not to upset the community and the DeBuNe supporters.

DeBuNe has collected so far about USD20k, that have been used, and are not enough to have something completed.

I have the feeling that trying to raise about USD2M in the AE is not an easy task, if it is possible at all.

I understand that many of you dislike Ethereum, even if it is used ONLY to raise funds.

I understand that many of you dislike Komodo or other internal projects.

I understand that many of you simply don't want to swap tokens outside Nxt.

I also understand that I have to remove the current DeBuNe from the AE by the end of October to then return to the current holder either the ERC20 tokens to later swap for DBN, or let people swap for another vehicle, or let people swap for DBN directly (at a small loss compared the previous opportunities, as this will not gain value during ICO).

Now, I don't want to offend anyone, and at the same time I don't want to exclude anyone.

I am thinking to another possibility to run parallel to the ERC10 tokens, and if you all think with me, we may find a perfect solution ;)

All I want is to have the funds to deliver DeBuNe as initially promised. I can do many private agreements directly in BTC or even ARDR or NXT.

Let me know.

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on October 15, 2017, 01:50:31 pm
UPDATE:

Re topic at https://nxtforum.org/debune/erc20-debune-tokens-swap/

So far 90'670.6862 DeBuNe assets have been sent back to be swapped with ERC20 tokens.

There are still 158'772.24 that needs to be returned Before the end of October, or else they will end up not being swapped.

Whoever desires to swap the DeBuNe assets with DBN after the launch of the DeBuNe blockchain, please send them back specifying so in the message.

15 days left.

Roberto
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on October 23, 2017, 09:13:47 pm
Roberto is a busy man  :)
https://www.fidentiax.com/webfiles/1508747308814/pdf/web/viewer.html

Have a look at page 28 of the white paper.
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: Amalgamus on October 23, 2017, 09:47:27 pm
Sharing a post by Roberto: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/blockchain-project-ive-chosen-work-roberto-capodieci/
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on November 01, 2017, 06:38:34 am
IMPORTANT AND URGENT

Last few hours to send back the DeBuNe Assets to the issuer account, to then get them as ERC20 or as DeBuNe tokens once the DeBuNe blockchain is launched.

I saw some of you that have put them for sale, in a few hours they will be worth nothing (I will put ALL the assets from the issuer account for sale at 0.00000001 (or whatever the minimum is).

Cancel your purchase orders, cancel your sales order and send back to asset issuer BEFORE all the assets will be put on sale.

Just a few hours left!

Roberto
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: rubenbc on May 08, 2018, 10:25:49 pm
Hello Roberto, do you have any updates?  ???

Time passes and we have no news about the alleged ICO. :-\

I hope everything goes well in order to launch the project soon
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on May 14, 2018, 04:40:00 am
Hello,
  all is still moving. There are some issues that stop us from proceeding as fast as we wish, but we are working to assure all goes for the best.

Anyone wants to help out? We have open positions! Check the website: http://debune.com

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: topot on October 31, 2018, 01:07:39 pm
Hello, dear friends! I exchanged the tokens for ERC (Ethereum) long ago. I have 250 pieces. When there is a new exchange? There is no activity at this forum. Is not present anywhere... The project is closed?
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on November 01, 2018, 09:19:53 am
The project is not closed. There have been legal and organizational issues that have created a delay, and we are waiting to confirm the deployment before of the next phase before making new announcements.

Afterall it is an awful moment for ICOs :)

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: rubenbc on April 18, 2019, 09:17:40 pm
https://nxtforum.org/debune/erc20-debune-tokens-swap/msg244200/#msg244200
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on April 20, 2019, 03:34:53 am
Hello all,
   here is a bit of history. In 2014-2015 DeBuNe raised USD20k and, with more personal capital injected, dev started, but shortly things went to a point where we needed to make some money to finance the project. We (as DeBuNe team) moved to take in projects to keep financing the implementation, until we got stuck in a legal situation where we had to pay attention even to mention the name DeBuNe. I still cannot say much on this as there are still situations open against a person. While things evolved in all the crypto world, the technology we implemented, based on NXT, wasn't good anymore. We had to keep the concept, but code again. Some more cash came in (privately, from me) and last year we had another attempt to get things up and running properly. In the meanwhile Blockchain Zoo (http://bcz.ooo) was born, to include DeBuNe as one of its core projects. It is now that we have a full team of people 100% devoted to implement a new type of blockchain, based on a different proof, that will be the base for DeBuNe implementation.

I been silent in the past months, and not so talkative in the past year, because of the legal situation created by someone we trusted. Now we are almost off there, and is soon time to resurrect DeBuNe, and bring it to life.

I appreciate everyone patience, and nobody has even been forgotten.

R
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: topot on June 25, 2019, 05:55:22 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKygqYPnW2U&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: farl4bit on July 14, 2019, 10:11:27 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKygqYPnW2U&feature=youtu.be

What is this for show?
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: topot on September 01, 2019, 08:10:07 am
DeBuNe will be implemented at the top of the ZOOBC/
https://zoobc.org  https://zoobc.com  https://t.me/ZooBlockchain
Title: Re: DeBuNe ICO at the horizon
Post by: capodieci on September 18, 2019, 06:15:36 am
Remember DeBuNe? Read this!

DeBuNe will be implemented on top of ZooBC (https://zoobc.com)(.com), a new blockchain platform built by Blockchain Zoo (https://blockchainzoo.com): the same original DeBuNe core team now with the added contribution of others super talented people (we are now 50 people).

Why this choice of a new platform? Because no other blockchain architecture can guarantee the safety DeBuNe needs. We have learned so much from Nxt in so many years working with it, that we decided to implement our own platform. Want to discuss or learn more? Join the forum at https://zoobc.org (https://zoobc.org)

(https://zoobc.com/images/ZooBC_logo.png) (https://zoobc.org)

Cheers!
Roberto
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