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Title: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on February 01, 2016, 02:56:33 pm
EIX to merge with MMNXT under unified NEXT asset; NEXTBOND to launch

Trading funds E9 (EIX) and MMNXT are merging under a single fund, NEXT. This will allow better use of combined funds, more clarity and no conflict of interest between the activities of the two funds. At the same time, a new bitcoin bond (NEXTBOND) will launch to generate further revenues for NEXT and directly for BOND holders through arbitrage on BTC/USD exchanges.

NEXTBOND - asset id 7105354913147670050
Arbitrage across bitcoin exchanges currently yields returns of up to 4% monthly. 1 NEXTBOND will represent 1 bitcoin (SuperBTC) on the Asset Exchange, with a guaranteed monthly payout of 2% in superBTC. The remaining income will go to NEXT assetholders. NEXTBOND may be redeemed for SuperBTC at any time by sending back to the issuing account. They can also be traded on the AE’s secondary market. NEXTBOND will pay daily. Due to the transaction fees involved in sending daily dividends, no dividends will be sent to accounts holding less than 0.1 NEXTBOND.

PROCEDURE:​ ​
​Deposit:​​ When you want to invest in BOND, simply send superBTC to ​NXT-ESXQ-5QFC-ARPP-HG2C7​ and you will receive the equivalence in BOND (1:1). ​​Withdrawal:​​ When you want to withdraw your superBTC, simply send your BOND to ​NXT-ESXQ-5QFC-ARPP-HG2C7​ and we will send the equivalence in BTC (1:1) to the senders address.

All reasonable security precautions are taken and arbitrage is low-risk, but investor funds cannot be guaranteed against theft or exchange hack.

MMNXT/EIX asset swap for NEXT
MMNXT and EIX will be combined into a single asset, NEXT, which will pay out twice a month (1st and 15th) in NXT.

A total of 10% of active NEXT assets will be reserved for management payments. 25% of the total NEXT issue will be reinvested to grow the fund (similar to EIX’s current 29% reinvest and MMNXT’s 25% buyback). It makes sense for NEXT to hold 25% of NEXT’s assets to automate this.

A total of 1 million NEXT will be issued, with 15% being held back for future asset sales if required (there is no immediate intention to sell more assets). Of the 850,000 active assets, a total of 35% will be retained for management and reinvestment (85,000 + 212,500 = 297,500).

This leaves 552,500 NEXT assets for swap with existing MMNXT and EIX assets. No MMNXT or EIX assets are currently retained for management payments, only founder shares. (EIX currently reserves 15% of income for management payments as well as 29% for reinvestment.)

EIX price: 14.5. Assets issued: 568,200. MMNXT price: 1.15. Assets issued: 8,648,144. Total combined market cap of MMNXT and EIX is therefore estimated at around 18 million NXT; there is some daily variation. Thus 552,000 NEXT assets will be swapped in proportion to MMNXT and EIX market cap, at 32.6 NXT per NEXT, with each being worth around 21 NXT when considering all 850,000 active NEXT assets.

2.3 EIX per NEXT = 247,043 NEXT assets swapped for EIX
29 MMNXT per NEXT = 298,212 NEXT assets swapped for MMNXT
Total: 545,255. The remaining 6,745 assets will be retained by NEXT for reinvestment, bringing the fund’s total of its own assets to 25.8%.

The asset swap will begin on 16th January, after EIX’s next dividend. There is no closing date but dividends will not be distributed to the old assets.

Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on February 01, 2016, 02:56:46 pm
http://bitscan.com/articles/nextbond-bitcoin-arbitrage-asset

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NEXTBOND: Bitcoin arbitrage asset

Price difference on bitcoin exchanges represents an opportunity for easy, safe profits.

Bitcoin is by far the most liquid cryptocurrency, but there are still inefficiencies across its many exchanges. It’s not unusual for prices to be several dollars apart, one way or another. Those differences can be exploited by arbitrage: buying at the lower price and simultaneously selling at the higher one.

Whilst this can be done manually, it’s far easier with custom software that continually checks the most active exchanges and automatically executes the trade when it sees a discrepancy. It also requires having a significant amount of funds on both the exchanges in question, since even with bitcoin withdrawing money from one exchange to another takes too long; opportunities may last only seconds. The more funds you have in place, the most profit can be made before you have to readjust your balances to make sure the BTC and USD are in the right place.

Read full article: http://bitscan.com/articles/nextbond-bitcoin-arbitrage-asset
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on February 01, 2016, 02:56:58 pm
First dividend has been paid!

NEXT (5504266111917554921)
Total issued assets: 1000000
Assets to be distributed to: 780640.52
Dividend per asset: 0.10599885335186034
Summary of proposed distribution of 82747 NXT to 170 assetholders
Based on ownership at timestamp: 69049210 (1/02/2016 19:20:09)
Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)

We've kept back a proportion of revenues for those who have not yet swapped their assets (total for this fortnight is 106k NXT). Lots of smaller MMNXT holders have not swapped yet.

Note: there's a second div of 26776.2325467 NXT that also went out at the same time - we accidentally sent to the account that holds escrowed NEXT assets.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: KarlKarlsson on February 02, 2016, 05:32:12 pm
First dividend has been paid!

NEXT (5504266111917554921)
Total issued assets: 1000000
Assets to be distributed to: 780640.52
Dividend per asset: 0.10599885335186034
Summary of proposed distribution of 82747 NXT to 170 assetholders
Based on ownership at timestamp: 69049210 (1/02/2016 19:20:09)
Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)

We've kept back a proportion of revenues for those who have not yet swapped their assets (total for this fortnight is 106k NXT). Lots of smaller MMNXT holders have not swapped yet.

Note: there's a second div of 26776.2325467 NXT that also went out at the same time - we accidentally sent to the account that holds escrowed NEXT assets.
So, the total div is 109523, right?  :)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on February 02, 2016, 07:47:46 pm
First dividend has been paid!

NEXT (5504266111917554921)
Total issued assets: 1000000
Assets to be distributed to: 780640.52
Dividend per asset: 0.10599885335186034
Summary of proposed distribution of 82747 NXT to 170 assetholders
Based on ownership at timestamp: 69049210 (1/02/2016 19:20:09)
Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)

We've kept back a proportion of revenues for those who have not yet swapped their assets (total for this fortnight is 106k NXT). Lots of smaller MMNXT holders have not swapped yet.

Note: there's a second div of 26776.2325467 NXT that also went out at the same time - we accidentally sent to the account that holds escrowed NEXT assets.
So, the total div is 109523, right?  :)

No! The total was around 106k, but a proportion of that was held back to reflect the proportion of assetholders who haven't exchanged yet. So 82,747 is the correct amount. The second div was funds accidentally sent to escrowed assets that were then redistributed.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: KarlKarlsson on February 03, 2016, 11:33:06 am
First dividend has been paid!

NEXT (5504266111917554921)
Total issued assets: 1000000
Assets to be distributed to: 780640.52
Dividend per asset: 0.10599885335186034
Summary of proposed distribution of 82747 NXT to 170 assetholders
Based on ownership at timestamp: 69049210 (1/02/2016 19:20:09)
Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)

We've kept back a proportion of revenues for those who have not yet swapped their assets (total for this fortnight is 106k NXT). Lots of smaller MMNXT holders have not swapped yet.

Note: there's a second div of 26776.2325467 NXT that also went out at the same time - we accidentally sent to the account that holds escrowed NEXT assets.
So, the total div is 109523, right?  :)

No! The total was around 106k, but a proportion of that was held back to reflect the proportion of assetholders who haven't exchanged yet. So 82,747 is the correct amount. The second div was funds accidentally sent to escrowed assets that were then redistributed.
Thanks for clarification, corrected in both the spreadsheet and in our database!
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: crumb-bum on February 03, 2016, 10:06:52 pm
HI! Please reserve dividend for me. My nxt account is NXT-W6G8-F4ES-MSTS-5269V.

I haven't been able to do the asset swap yet but will do so in the next couple of days.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: coinomat on February 04, 2016, 09:23:59 am
HI! Please reserve dividend for me. My nxt account is NXT-W6G8-F4ES-MSTS-5269V.

I haven't been able to do the asset swap yet but will do so in the next couple of days.
Don't worry, the full amount is reserved for all the assets which have not been swapped yet.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: crumb-bum on February 04, 2016, 02:43:27 pm
Thanks, Coinomat. Good to know!
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on February 08, 2016, 03:42:00 pm
A quick update on forthcoming dividends:

Whale has sold our SIA after the recent rise for a 2 BTC profit. There will also be 13k NXT in assets from the latest NxtInspect dividend.
Coinomat's bots are continuing to work their magic, grinding away. NEXT has around 80 BTC directly under management, which yields in the region of 4% per month or 1.6 BTC per fortnight. NEXTBOND has so far collected 41 BTC, which yields holders 2% per month and around 2% to NEXT.

At a rough count, then (i.e. subject to further revision), we should be looking at a dividend of 4 BTC on 15th. If NXT is still around 2200 sats that will be 182k NXT in total, around twice as high as last time. Assuming distribution to all 850k active assets, that's ~0.21 NXT per asset, which at the latest price of 30 NXT is a yield of 0.7% per fortnight or 18.5% per year. So not too bad for the stage we're at right now.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on February 11, 2016, 09:22:52 am
Hi guys, we now have an automated superBTC > NEXTBOND swap script.

Send superBTC to NXT-ESXQ-5QFC-ARPP-HG2C7 to receive NEXTBOND automatically. (Reverse is still manual)

Meanwhile, daily divs are now sent from NXT-SQ3N-USPR-DRZT-6SN7E, around midday.

Note: you can send any amount of superBTC to this address and receive the same amount of NEXTBOND. However, divs will only be paid to holders with more than 0.1 NEXTBOND. This enables reinvestment of dividends, amongst other things.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: danisapfirov on February 11, 2016, 02:32:09 pm
If <0.1 BTC no div = auto reinvestment to account
Is that right?
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on February 11, 2016, 02:45:19 pm
If <0.1 BTC no div = auto reinvestment to account
Is that right?

Not quite.
If you own < 0.1 BTC of NEXTBOND then it's not worth the tx fee to send out the daily div. You can buy any amount, but if accounts with less than 0.1 BTC won't get a payout. It is important that people can buy small amounts, because they can then reinvest revenues themselves periodically. Swapping superBTC for NEXTBOND is now automated.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: ebby on February 12, 2016, 12:18:16 am
Is there a "buy back offer" for bigger holders of NEXT-Asset?
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on February 12, 2016, 06:29:03 am
Is there a "buy back offer" for bigger holders of NEXT-Asset?

Not currently. How much are you looking to sell?
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: danisapfirov on February 12, 2016, 07:48:32 am
If <0.1 BTC no div = auto reinvestment to account
Is that right?

Not quite.
If you own < 0.1 BTC of NEXTBOND then it's not worth the tx fee to send out the daily div. You can buy any amount, but if accounts with less than 0.1 BTC won't get a payout. It is important that people can buy small amounts, because they can then reinvest revenues themselves periodically. Swapping superBTC for NEXTBOND is now automated.

If someone sends superBTC to the account but the total sum is less than 0.1 BTC there are no div payed.
My question is if there are some satoshies added to these accounts weekly?
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on February 12, 2016, 07:59:14 am
If <0.1 BTC no div = auto reinvestment to account
Is that right?

Not quite.
If you own < 0.1 BTC of NEXTBOND then it's not worth the tx fee to send out the daily div. You can buy any amount, but if accounts with less than 0.1 BTC won't get a payout. It is important that people can buy small amounts, because they can then reinvest revenues themselves periodically. Swapping superBTC for NEXTBOND is now automated.

If someone sends superBTC to the account but the total sum is less than 0.1 BTC there are no div payed.
My question is if there are some satoshies added to these accounts weekly?

I see. No, we wanted people to buy in with at least 0.1 btc for various reasons.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: ebby on February 12, 2016, 06:52:12 pm
Is there a "buy back offer" for bigger holders of NEXT-Asset?

Not currently. How much are you looking to sell?
29000
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on February 15, 2016, 11:47:45 am
Dividend day, and it's a good one as expected. Total was around 200k NXT, but we've kept back a little for those who have not yet swapped their MMNXT and EIX assets.

NEXT (5504266111917554921)
Total issued assets: 1000000
Assets to be distributed to: 823349.2300000003
Dividend per asset: 0.2210483636451569
Summary of proposed distribution of 182000 NXT to 240 assetholders
Based on ownership at timestamp: 70241982 (15/02/2016 14:39:41)
Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)

Thanks for holding!
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: sadface on February 19, 2016, 01:35:54 pm
where is NEXT gonna end up when that new coinomat chain becomes a reality?

https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/%28pre-ann%29-time-to-go-further-new-chain-is-coming/
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on February 19, 2016, 01:40:44 pm
where is NEXT gonna end up when that new coinomat chain becomes a reality?

https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/%28pre-ann%29-time-to-go-further-new-chain-is-coming/

Something we'll discuss but it's a coinomat-issued asset so it would probably move to the coino-chain.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on March 01, 2016, 11:07:27 am
Assets are crashing all over AE. Meanwhile we've had one of our best divs so far:

NEXT (5504266111917554921)
Total issued assets: 1000000
Assets to be distributed to: 835336.2300000006
Dividend per asset: 0.251395776285197
Summary of proposed distribution of 210000 NXT to 244 assetholders
Based on ownership at timestamp: 71535831 (1/03/2016 14:03:50)
Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)

Anyone who managed to pick up NEXT at 10 NXT in the recent dump will be getting around 5% per month on that last one.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: jeff jefferson on March 01, 2016, 07:59:30 pm
Thanks for the great dividend. Really appreciate the steady pay out. I am holding your asset no matter what. Have you considered paying out the NEXT DIVIDEND also in superbtc? Nxt keeps on losing value way too fast despite of the great fnxt announcements.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on March 01, 2016, 08:10:26 pm
Thanks for the great dividend. Really appreciate the steady pay out. I am holding your asset no matter what. Have you considered paying out the NEXT DIVIDEND also in superbtc? Nxt keeps on losing value way too fast despite of the great fnxt announcements.

We've thought about it and it's a possibility, though it would need to be subject to a vote since the deal at the beginning was that NEXT would pay out in NXT. Obviously, lower prices mean more NXT per dividend, so long-term hopefully it would work out.
Another factor is that NEXT is a Coinomat asset and will be migrating to Coinomat's new chain when it is ready, at which point it would probably make sense to pay out in BTC, or the native currency.
Thanks for hodling!
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: nxtforum-a on March 06, 2016, 12:49:13 pm
I have some nextbonds assets in my NXT wallet, but I wonder how much can I trust the issuer?
I have also LQD shares, and I'm hungry because the issuer made very big mistakes (for pp managing so much money, he shouldn't): one error is possible, two... hum, but three in a row, it's too much for me. I accepted the risks, but whith nextbong, I can think it's no risk, but is it really true???
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on March 06, 2016, 01:01:38 pm
I have some nextbonds assets in my NXT wallet, but I wonder how much can I trust the issuer?
I have also LQD shares, and I'm hungry because the issuer made very big mistakes (for pp managing so much money, he shouldn't): one error is possible, two... hum, but three in a row, it's too much for me. I accepted the risks, but whith nextbong, I can think it's no risk, but is it really true???

There is always some risk, of course. But the method and the issuer reduce that as much as possible. Coinomat has a good, long-term reputation, his real id is known, and arbitrage is pretty safe.
Don't believe anyone if they say investments are risk free, but this can be considered lower risk than just about anything else.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on March 15, 2016, 01:41:21 pm
Not a bad fortnight for bots. A little assets revenue - hopefully more next time. NXT is relatively strong against BTC right now, at least given its medium-term history. So:

NEXT (5504266111917554921)
Total issued assets: 1000000
Assets to be distributed to: 845734.7600000007
Dividend per asset: 0.1767693691577722
Summary of proposed distribution of 149500 NXT to 253 assetholders
Based on ownership at timestamp: 72751424 (15/03/2016 15:43:43)
Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)

Thanks for holding!
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: apenzl on March 15, 2016, 02:07:46 pm
Thanks for the div!
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: taggartd on March 18, 2016, 07:05:45 pm
Generally how long does it take a withdrawal? because i'v sent my nextbond about seven hours ago but nothing arrived. Just to know if there is some issue and because i need superbtc for tomorrow morning  ;D Thanks
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on March 19, 2016, 04:16:49 pm
Generally how long does it take a withdrawal? because i'v sent my nextbond about seven hours ago but nothing arrived. Just to know if there is some issue and because i need superbtc for tomorrow morning  ;D Thanks

Coinomat usually does them once a day. If you need it faster, maybe drop him a line on Slack and ask nicely?
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: taggartd on March 19, 2016, 09:59:14 pm
Generally how long does it take a withdrawal? because i'v sent my nextbond about seven hours ago but nothing arrived. Just to know if there is some issue and because i need superbtc for tomorrow morning  ;D Thanks

Coinomat usually does them once a day. If you need it faster, maybe drop him a line on Slack and ask nicely?
All ok, arrived. I asked because previous withdrawal i've done were faster; perhaps they were near the time coinomat was doing them. Next/nextbond are very good asset. Have a nice WE
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on April 01, 2016, 12:49:33 pm
Not a bad fortnight, but hopefully better to come next time. Whale closed a good XMR trade, and coinomat's bots have been doing pretty well. Result:

NEXT (5504266111917554921)
Total issued assets: 1000000
Assets to be distributed to: 847521.5100000006
Dividend per asset: 0.17698665842711164
Summary of proposed distribution of 150000 NXT to 249 assetholders
Based on ownership at timestamp: 74216333 (4/1/2016 14:38:52)
Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: penoze on April 06, 2016, 03:54:22 pm
Hello,

transaction id from april 4th: 3545924200094301735
send nxtbond to the swap account but didn't receive btc yet.
Can you take a look at that?

Kind regards,

EDIT: received ;D
Thanks

Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: PPan on April 10, 2016, 07:43:17 pm
35 hours ago I sent nextbond to the swap account, but didn't receive superBTC yet .

transaction : 8045012997730884544
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on April 10, 2016, 08:28:50 pm
35 hours ago I sent nextbond to the swap account, but didn't receive superBTC yet .

transaction : 8045012997730884544

It's usually pretty fast but Sasha has been pretty busy recently with WAVES. Will chase it up. Give us another shout if you don't get it in another day or so.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: PPan on April 11, 2016, 03:11:16 pm
35 hours ago I sent nextbond to the swap account, but didn't receive superBTC yet .

transaction : 8045012997730884544

It's usually pretty fast but Sasha has been pretty busy recently with WAVES. Will chase it up. Give us another shout if you don't get it in another day or so.

Unfortunately no news  :(
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on April 11, 2016, 03:49:56 pm
35 hours ago I sent nextbond to the swap account, but didn't receive superBTC yet .

transaction : 8045012997730884544

It's usually pretty fast but Sasha has been pretty busy recently with WAVES. Will chase it up. Give us another shout if you don't get it in another day or so.

Unfortunately no news  :(

Hm, are you in SuperNET Slack? I'll check again
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Britannia on April 11, 2016, 05:45:45 pm
I sent 450 MMNXT 31/03 but i didn't receive NEXT
TxID 10025085751428078972
450 MMNXT sent 31/03/2016 to NXT-ESXQ-5QFC-ARPP-HG2C7 from NXT-AXEW-Y4Z9-EX6T-HPGWT
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: PPan on April 11, 2016, 07:36:36 pm
35 hours ago I sent nextbond to the swap account, but didn't receive superBTC yet .

transaction : 8045012997730884544

It's usually pretty fast but Sasha has been pretty busy recently with WAVES. Will chase it up. Give us another shout if you don't get it in another day or so.

Unfortunately no news  :(

Hm, are you in SuperNET Slack? I'll check again

No, I'm not in Slack
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on April 11, 2016, 09:30:03 pm
Ok, I've followed up on both of these. Apologies for the delay - it's very busy at the moment with the WAVES ICO about to start.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: PPan on April 12, 2016, 03:40:33 am
Ok, I've followed up on both of these. Apologies for the delay - it's very busy at the moment with the WAVES ICO about to start.
Hope it will go through today, because of the WAVES ICO.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: PPan on April 12, 2016, 08:43:59 am
Ok, I've followed up on both of these. Apologies for the delay - it's very busy at the moment with the WAVES ICO about to start.
Hope it will go through today, because of the WAVES ICO.

Received, Thank you!
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: 48uptr9 on April 12, 2016, 11:53:51 pm
Can you checkthe  NEXTBOND redemption below:
tx: 13775964614312383314

It's been more than two days now

thanks
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: 48uptr9 on April 14, 2016, 09:15:47 pm
Can you checkthe  NEXTBOND redemption below:
tx: 13775964614312383314

It's been more than two days now

thanks

Still no SuperBTC has been sent to me. Over four days now. Please respond
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on April 15, 2016, 05:34:12 am
Can you checkthe  NEXTBOND redemption below:
tx: 13775964614312383314

It's been more than two days now

thanks

Sorry, will follow up with Sasha.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on April 15, 2016, 03:55:11 pm
Quite a serious div this fortnight, largely thanks to a substantial trade by whale: good job, sir.

NEXT (5504266111917554921)
Total issued assets: 1000000
Assets to be distributed to: 847914.6500000006
Dividend per asset: 0.34201555545714396
Summary of proposed distribution of 290000 NXT to 245 assetholders
Based on ownership at timestamp: 75437598 (4/15/2016 17:53:17)
Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: 48uptr9 on April 16, 2016, 08:15:25 am
Can you checkthe  NEXTBOND redemption below:
tx: 13775964614312383314

It's been more than two days now

thanks

Sorry, will follow up with Sasha.

Thanks for your reply, still nothing received on my end though

Timestamp of my redemption transaction - 10-Apr-2016 09:51pm - nearly 6 days ago.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: jeff jefferson on April 16, 2016, 08:48:11 am
Really great dividends! My favorite asset doesn't disappoint! Thanks a lot
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on April 16, 2016, 11:10:09 am
Can you checkthe  NEXTBOND redemption below:
tx: 13775964614312383314

It's been more than two days now

thanks

Sorry, will follow up with Sasha.

Thanks for your reply, still nothing received on my end though

Timestamp of my redemption transaction - 10-Apr-2016 09:51pm - nearly 6 days ago.

Hm, strange - will keep chasing of course. If you're not on Slack, do swing over too.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: 48uptr9 on April 16, 2016, 12:22:39 pm
Can you checkthe  NEXTBOND redemption below:
tx: 13775964614312383314

It's been more than two days now

thanks

Sorry, will follow up with Sasha.

Thanks for your reply, still nothing received on my end though

Timestamp of my redemption transaction - 10-Apr-2016 09:51pm - nearly 6 days ago.

Hm, strange - will keep chasing of course. If you're not on Slack, do swing over too.

I appreciate your reply Cassius, but this is far from satisfactory. I have been waiting for six days to withdraw my bitcoins. I have sent PM's to coinomat and posted support query here in the NEXTBOND thread on the NXT forum. NEXTBOND is a NXT asset so this should be visible place to post for help.

SIX DAYS & WAITING. I know WAVES had an IPO so they are busy, but my withdrawal was two days before the IPO, and still days after IPO finished I am waiting. Sorry, but this is very poor response to an existing investor.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on April 16, 2016, 12:49:34 pm
He's looking at it now so you should receive it shortly.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: 48uptr9 on April 16, 2016, 11:49:08 pm
He's looking at it now so you should receive it shortly.

Thanks for following up Cassius!

Still nothing received though

Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on April 17, 2016, 07:26:41 am
He's looking at it now so you should receive it shortly.

Thanks for following up Cassius!

Still nothing received though

He has sent you a message through the Nxt client
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Jukie on April 17, 2016, 01:12:50 pm
Quite a serious div this fortnight, largely thanks to a substantial trade by whale: good job, sir.

NEXT (5504266111917554921)
Total issued assets: 1000000
Assets to be distributed to: 847914.6500000006
Dividend per asset: 0.34201555545714396
Summary of proposed distribution of 290000 NXT to 245 assetholders
Based on ownership at timestamp: 75437598 (4/15/2016 17:53:17)
Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)

Nice divs :)

Asset price going up again as well.

Hope to see more substantial Whale trades :)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: 48uptr9 on April 17, 2016, 02:22:51 pm
He's looking at it now so you should receive it shortly.

Thanks for following up Cassius!

Still nothing received though

He has sent you a message through the Nxt client

Thanks Cassius, I have received the SuperBTC! Thanks for your assistance, I think there was confusion over whether I was redeeming BTC or buying WAVES. All sorted now :)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: PPan on April 27, 2016, 07:44:10 pm
nearly 24 hours ago I sent nextbond to the swap account, but didn't receive superBTC yet .

transaction : 11530288501979409594
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: PPan on April 28, 2016, 02:28:18 pm
nearly 24 hours ago I sent nextbond to the swap account, but didn't receive superBTC yet .

transaction : 11530288501979409594

Received! Thx
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on May 01, 2016, 12:16:05 pm
Latest div:

NEXT (5504266111917554921)
Total issued assets: 1000000
Assets to be distributed to: 847914.6500000005
Dividend per asset: 0.2217204290549761
Summary of proposed distribution of 188000 NXT to 238 assetholders
Based on ownership at timestamp: 76799504 (5/1/2016 12:11:43)
Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Jukie on May 08, 2016, 02:29:15 pm
What will happen to NEXT asset on WAVES blockchain?

Will this be absorbed by some bigger (foundation?) asset or will it stay the same effectively paying the same divs to less holders? 
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on May 10, 2016, 05:48:39 am
What will happen to NEXT asset on WAVES blockchain?

Will this be absorbed by some bigger (foundation?) asset or will it stay the same effectively paying the same divs to less holders?

Yes, it will move to Waves and continue to pay out, probably in btc.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on May 14, 2016, 04:54:57 pm
The fortnightly div, a day early due to WAVES redemption deadline:

NEXT (5504266111917554921)
Total issued assets: 1000000
Assets to be distributed to: 672475.0100000007
Dividend per asset: 0.15019145469807108
Summary of proposed distribution of 101000 NXT to 221 assetholders
Based on ownership at timestamp: 77946483 (5/14/2016 18:48:02)
Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: lsteele2016 on May 16, 2016, 09:55:42 pm
i would be interested in having an option to have my nextbond divs payed in nextbond, for compounding.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: farl4bit on May 17, 2016, 05:09:45 am
Thanks for the div. What has this have to do with Waves?
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: KarlKarlsson on May 17, 2016, 05:20:25 am

Thanks for the div. What has this have to do with Waves?
You were allowed to swap NEXT to WAVES tokens if you wished to. Since the deadline for the swap was the 15th, the dividend was paid one day earlier as usual.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: jeezy on May 20, 2016, 06:46:16 am

Thanks for the div. What has this have to do with Waves?
You were allowed to swap NEXT to WAVES tokens if you wished to. Since the deadline for the swap was the 15th, the dividend was paid one day earlier as usual.

Wait, what? I haven't seen _ANY_ information about that in here? I wanted to swap NEXT for WAVES. How am I going to do that now?

Nevermind. I actually read that wrong. The assets will be transfered manually when WAVES is ready. I actually dont want to trade my assets in for tokens.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: lsteele2016 on May 22, 2016, 02:48:25 pm
was there a 5/21 nextbond div ? if there was i missed mine.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on May 22, 2016, 05:39:52 pm
was there a 5/21 nextbond div ? if there was i missed mine.

There should be one daily. Drop Coinomat a line with your account number if you didn't get it.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on June 02, 2016, 04:49:04 pm
Recent div - a day late because 1 June (last day of the WAVES ICO) was really very exciting and we got distracted.

NEXT (5504266111917554921)
Total issued assets: 1000000
Assets to be distributed to: 636656.8900000007
Dividend per asset: 0.13350990358401665
Summary of proposed distribution of 85000 NXT to 218 assetholders
Based on ownership at timestamp: 79591335 (6/2/2016 19:42:14)
Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Virtack on June 05, 2016, 11:06:45 am
Hello, I have send NEXTBOND to the swap account 6 days ago (31/05) and I didn't receive any SuperBTC yet.

Can you check it? Thanks.

Transaction 3764667550309285513
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on June 05, 2016, 11:55:17 am
Hello, I have send NEXTBOND to the swap account 6 days ago (31/05) and I didn't receive any SuperBTC yet.

Can you check it? Thanks.

Transaction 3764667550309285513

Sure, will look into it
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: D20160404 on June 09, 2016, 09:57:46 am
Hello, is there a reason for not sending a dividend on NEXTBOND yesterday on the 8th?
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Virtack on June 09, 2016, 10:20:30 am
I still didn't receive any SuperBTC for my NEXTBOND swap.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on June 09, 2016, 12:02:14 pm
Thanks, we're looking into these.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Virtack on June 12, 2016, 08:56:43 am
What's happening? It's been 12 days!
Send me my SuperBTC or send me back my NEXTBOND!
I'm really not confortable with this project or sasha's futur projects!

Transaction : 3764667550309285513
Account : NXT-LZZA-338T-LYKU-A5MRK
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on June 12, 2016, 04:07:32 pm
What's happening? It's been 12 days!
Send me my SuperBTC or send me back my NEXTBOND!
I'm really not confortable with this project or sasha's futur projects!

Transaction : 3764667550309285513
Account : NXT-LZZA-338T-LYKU-A5MRK

Following up again. Apologies.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: D20160404 on June 13, 2016, 11:15:48 am
I understand with waves that things are a bit hectic atm, but the message attached to transaction 3831690757766902365 is not looking good.
I havent send my nextbond back to recieve btc back, but i would like to believe it would be send within a reasonable timeframe.

Maybe agree you send back on a fixed day (or days) in the week or within x amount of days.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: superslack on June 14, 2016, 12:52:57 am
sent my nxt bonds in april but didnt get anything in exchange. tried many ways to reach out and was assured it is coming many times but I still got nothing.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: superslack on June 15, 2016, 02:50:09 am
Can someone please check txid 15877882336847824446 for account NXT-FAHS-ZBC3-EAQY-GTA5M


I sent nxt bonds back 2 months ago but didn't receive nothing can you send me superbtc or my nxtbonds back......... this is getting ridiculous . I hope coinomat/Sasha is not scamming me
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Virtack on June 16, 2016, 09:37:26 am
This is super scary...
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: coinomat on June 16, 2016, 10:00:36 am
Can someone please check txid 15877882336847824446 for account NXT-FAHS-ZBC3-EAQY-GTA5M


I sent nxt bonds back 2 months ago but didn't receive nothing can you send me superbtc or my nxtbonds back......... this is getting ridiculous . I hope coinomat/Sasha is not scamming me
you had a wrong transaction comment... send NXTBONDS back
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Virtack on June 16, 2016, 10:55:47 am
I received my NEXTBOND back, thanks Coinomat.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: yassin54 on June 16, 2016, 11:12:26 am
I received my NEXTBOND back, thanks Coinomat.
Good my friend!!  :)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: superslack on June 16, 2016, 01:49:32 pm
I got my Nxtbonds plus interest back, would you consider making this process automated in the future?

Thanks
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: lsteele2016 on June 21, 2016, 03:25:17 am
tl;dr: what's the best way to contact coinomat about missed divs and/or is that still the correct course of action.

missed my div on 5/21, and at the time i was told to drop coinomat a line.
wasn't sure exactly what 'drop a line' meant so i sent a pm, with no response.
blew it off at the time, it's a small amount and w/ wave and all going on and all, but missed it again today and now it's a matter of principle.

thanks.

NXT-Z2XX-TRT7-PN3F-C2Q83
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: martismartis on June 21, 2016, 04:46:44 am
tl;dr: what's the best way to contact coinomat about missed divs and/or is that still the correct course of action.

missed my div on 5/21, and at the time i was told to drop coinomat a line.
wasn't sure exactly what 'drop a line' meant so i sent a pm, with no response.
blew it off at the time, it's a small amount and w/ wave and all going on and all, but missed it again today and now it's a matter of principle.

thanks.

NXT-Z2XX-TRT7-PN3F-C2Q83

You're not alone, I think nobody received 06/20 dividends.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on June 21, 2016, 06:49:09 pm
tl;dr: what's the best way to contact coinomat about missed divs and/or is that still the correct course of action.

missed my div on 5/21, and at the time i was told to drop coinomat a line.
wasn't sure exactly what 'drop a line' meant so i sent a pm, with no response.
blew it off at the time, it's a small amount and w/ wave and all going on and all, but missed it again today and now it's a matter of principle.

thanks.

NXT-Z2XX-TRT7-PN3F-C2Q83

You're not alone, I think nobody received 06/20 dividends.

I've followed up with Sasha via Slack.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: PPan on June 22, 2016, 07:26:32 pm
No supoerBTC dividends for NEXTBOND today and yesterday.  :(
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: lsteele2016 on June 23, 2016, 12:59:08 am
nothing since the 19th
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on June 23, 2016, 09:30:00 pm
Sasha has recharged the btc account. Apologies for the missed divs.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: D20160404 on June 23, 2016, 10:59:33 pm
I haven't received the BTC back from the nextbond I returned.
14615634708347998749 June 16, 2016 - 16:17:35.

I don't know if the message wasn't clear enough or that I should do something else.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on June 24, 2016, 08:12:20 am
I haven't received the BTC back from the nextbond I returned.
14615634708347998749 June 16, 2016 - 16:17:35.

I don't know if the message wasn't clear enough or that I should do something else.

Apologies - will follow up.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: D20160404 on June 27, 2016, 09:26:55 pm
To follow up; I received the btc back today after contacting Sasha on Slack.
 :)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: jeff jefferson on June 28, 2016, 07:50:39 am
Haven't received any dividends from next or nextbond for a couple of days now. What's the problem?
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on June 28, 2016, 08:38:29 am
Haven't received any dividends from next or nextbond for a couple of days now. What's the problem?

Sorry - will chase this up again!
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: jeff jefferson on June 28, 2016, 08:52:42 am
Are there any news when these assets will be transferred to the waves chain? On nxt chain they are just loosing value
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on June 28, 2016, 10:35:32 am
Are there any news when these assets will be transferred to the waves chain? On nxt chain they are just loosing value

When Waves' AE is live, so probably not for a couple of months at least.
What is your account?
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: martismartis on June 28, 2016, 10:56:28 am
Are there any news when these assets will be transferred to the waves chain? On nxt chain they are just loosing value

How Waves chain will help for assets value?
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: jeff jefferson on June 28, 2016, 03:36:05 pm
My account is 18233836359249886783
Could you please check it? Been holding next asset for a long time and never stopped believing in it.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: martinyin on June 29, 2016, 02:41:39 am
Sorry, but I have to ask 'cause I didn't find the necessary information.
I have both EIX and MMNXT, how should I proceed the swap, send to which address?
Sorry that I've been out of NXT world for several months, been busy with my job. And things changed really fast.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on June 29, 2016, 11:48:41 am
Important notice

We have taken the decision to wind up NEXTBOND. I think the reasons for this will be obvious: administratively, it is simply too complicated and time-consuming to make daily dividends, since even when the process is automated there are inevitably issues that arise and these have to be corrected manually. Many people have reported missed dividends and problems with swaps back to superBTC from NEXTBOND - these have been done manually for security reasons.

We're sorry about this, but it is unquestionably the right decision since it is affecting our investors and the team. Please send your NEXTBOND back to the issuing account: NXT-ESXQ-5QFC-ARPP-HG2C7. Sasha will aim to get the return transactions done as soon as possible.

Should you have any issues, the best way to address them is to contact Sasha directly via Waves Slack, since neither Whale nor I have access to the funds (again, for security). We will do what we can to wind things up as quickly as we can.

The NEXT asset will continue to operate as normal for now.

Edit: Waves Slack registration temporarily disabled. We will look into alternatives. We're also on SuperNET Slack.

Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: D20160404 on June 29, 2016, 12:37:34 pm
I'm sad to hear this about NEXTBOND. But I understand that it takes too much time to send daily divs. and return bitcoins by hand.

I have some questions

 
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Virtack on June 29, 2016, 12:51:00 pm
It's sad to see the end of this asset, but I think you have made the good decision, Sasha can now focus on his other projects.
I have send my NEXTBOND, I hope I will receive my SuperBTC soon.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on June 29, 2016, 02:37:46 pm
I'm sad to hear this about NEXTBOND. But I understand that it takes too much time to send daily divs. and return bitcoins by hand.

I have some questions
  • will nextbond return? maybe with weekly div or other changes to make it easier for you guys?
  • what happens with NEXT? will this give higher or lower div?

Good questions. We may relaunch at some point, when things have calmed down. That's a question for some way down the line.
In terms of divs, this will reduce them a bit but there are lots of other factors currently in play which also have an effect, so it's probably not a bad time to rethink strategy. BTC halving and bullrun, NXT's recent rise, the effect on assets of Ardor and people hoarding NXT - there is a lot of uncertainty at the moment.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: martinyin on June 30, 2016, 07:30:59 pm
Hi Cassius, as per your instruction in Slack, I have transferred all my EIX and MMNXT to the redeem account:NXT-ESXQ-5QFC-ARPP-HG2C7

txid for EIX: 13709406839007347195
txid for MMNXT: 12260323310777223513

Thanks for your hard work, please let me know when you have the redemption done.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on July 01, 2016, 04:05:40 pm
It's the first of July, which means dividends:

NEXT (5504266111917554921)
Total issued assets: 1000000
Assets to be distributed to: 624756.8900000006
Dividend per asset: 0.0752292623775625
Summary of proposed distribution of 47000 NXT to 209 assetholders
Based on ownership at timestamp: 82086676 (7/1/2016 16:51:15)
Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)

This is in the context of a 3-fold rise in NXT (4x at one point) in the last week. Quite impressive, but it means the NXT value of the divs has decreased by 2/3! Not sure where this will lead over the coming months with the snapshots. It will be interesting to find out.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: nxtforum-a on July 01, 2016, 08:13:01 pm
Important notice
We have taken the decision to wind up NEXTBOND. I think the reasons for this will be obvious: administratively, it is simply too complicated and time-consuming to make daily dividends, since even when the process is automated there are inevitably issues that arise and these have to be corrected manually. Many people have reported missed dividends and problems with swaps back to superBTC from NEXTBOND - these have been done manually for security reasons.
We're sorry about this, but it is unquestionably the right decision since it is affecting our investors and the team. Please send your NEXTBOND back to the issuing account: NXT-ESXQ-5QFC-ARPP-HG2C7. Sasha will aim to get the return transactions done as soon as possible.
Done: https://nxtportal.org/transactions/10390131040886963608
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: D20160404 on July 03, 2016, 07:38:32 am
I send my nextbond back right after the notice but haven't received the btc back
id: 9238990272726888904

Thank you
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on July 03, 2016, 08:37:09 am
I send my nextbond back right after the notice but haven't received the btc back
id: 9238990272726888904

Thank you

Will check. Sasha did a set of swaps just now
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: martismartis on July 03, 2016, 09:47:13 am
tx 13854875887262398941
nextbond to superbtc swap
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Virtack on July 03, 2016, 05:25:32 pm
Me too, I haven't receive the SuperBTC yet
transaction : 8378354056424096614
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Virtack on July 05, 2016, 07:44:14 pm
Any news? I think I see some recent swap, but mine from June 29 has been forgotten.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on July 06, 2016, 04:54:30 pm
Sorry guys - will follow these up, but Sasha is travelling this week. Will see if we can get them processed.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: 48uptr9 on July 08, 2016, 12:59:27 am
day 8: NEXTBOND to SuperBTC, tx:17699539803168405670 , thanks!
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on July 08, 2016, 02:56:48 pm
Nudged.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: superslack on July 08, 2016, 04:33:08 pm
My swap from June 29th has seem to of been forgotten as well .    NXTBOND to superbtc, tx 12855302853871724382
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: 48uptr9 on July 09, 2016, 03:04:12 am
day 8: NEXTBOND to SuperBTC, tx:17699539803168405670 , thanks!

day 9: NEXTBOND to SuperBTC, tx:17699539803168405670 , thanks!
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: 48uptr9 on July 10, 2016, 05:25:56 am
day 8: NEXTBOND to SuperBTC, tx:17699539803168405670 , thanks!

day 9: NEXTBOND to SuperBTC, tx:17699539803168405670 , thanks!

day 10: NEXTBOND to SuperBTC, tx:17699539803168405670 , thanks!
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on July 10, 2016, 08:38:28 am
Batch just processed. Please check accounts and let us know if any are missing
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: taggartd on July 10, 2016, 02:44:15 pm
Cassius
the next website doesn't show correct statistic.
http://nextrading.fund/#
after 2016-03-14 there are no more data.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: D20160404 on July 10, 2016, 08:32:49 pm
Batch just processed. Please check accounts and let us know if any are missing
Is it send from a different account than NXT-ESXQ-5QFC-ARPP-HG2C7?

I haven't recieved the btc so far id: 9238990272726888904
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: 48uptr9 on July 11, 2016, 07:50:45 am
Batch just processed. Please check accounts and let us know if any are missing


day 11: NEXTBOND to SuperBTC, tx:17699539803168405670 , thanks!

Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on July 11, 2016, 11:29:13 am
Batch just processed. Please check accounts and let us know if any are missing


day 11: NEXTBOND to SuperBTC, tx:17699539803168405670 , thanks!

Just chased this.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Virtack on July 12, 2016, 09:43:35 am
Batch just processed. Please check accounts and let us know if any are missing

No, I still didn't received my SuperBTC.

tx : 8378354056424096614
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: 48uptr9 on July 14, 2016, 03:40:24 am
Batch just processed. Please check accounts and let us know if any are missing


day 11: NEXTBOND to SuperBTC, tx:17699539803168405670 , thanks!

Just chased this.

Thanks for helping Cassius, received on Day 12
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Virtack on July 14, 2016, 06:29:24 pm
day 16: NEXTBOND to SuperBTC, tx:8378354056424096614 , thanks!
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on July 15, 2016, 02:23:25 pm
day 16: NEXTBOND to SuperBTC, tx:8378354056424096614 , thanks!

Still unredeemed? Apologies, will chase up again.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on July 15, 2016, 03:11:29 pm
Dividend day. It's a lot lower in NXT terms, because NXT has selfishly appreciated by 400% in the last month.

NEXT (5504266111917554921)
Total issued assets: 1000000
Assets to be distributed to: 647593.0400000005
Dividend per asset: 0.0586788270608961
Summary of proposed distribution of 38000 NXT to 215 assetholders
Based on ownership at timestamp: 83294709 (7/15/2016 16:25:08)
Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Virtack on July 15, 2016, 04:35:09 pm
day 16: NEXTBOND to SuperBTC, tx:8378354056424096614 , thanks!

day 17: NEXTBOND to SuperBTC, tx:8378354056424096614 , thanks!
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on July 15, 2016, 05:35:46 pm
day 16: NEXTBOND to SuperBTC, tx:8378354056424096614 , thanks!

day 17: NEXTBOND to SuperBTC, tx:8378354056424096614 , thanks!

Just chased.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Bernard Lerring on July 15, 2016, 05:41:43 pm
Can someone chase up my 0.2 NEXTBOND to SuperBTC please?

Tx number 480695804175712740.

Cheeeeeeeeeers!
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on July 15, 2016, 06:54:56 pm
Can someone chase up my 0.2 NEXTBOND to SuperBTC please?

Tx number 480695804175712740.

Cheeeeeeeeeers!

Chased.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Bernard Lerring on July 16, 2016, 12:53:04 pm
Just checked  ;D Thanks very much Cassius  :)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: huafei on July 16, 2016, 01:15:56 pm
will less profit after close NEXTBOND?
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Virtack on July 16, 2016, 03:02:36 pm
SuperBTC received! Thanks Sasha and Cassius.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: superslack on July 16, 2016, 06:59:56 pm
Haven't received mine yet. transfer June 29th NXTBOND to superbtc, tx 12855302853871724382
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: PPan on July 20, 2016, 05:00:23 am
Cassius, can you please check my NEXTBOND -> superBTC swap? Thanks
tx: 13059703326479143223
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on July 20, 2016, 11:28:33 am
Cassius, can you please check my NEXTBOND -> superBTC swap? Thanks
tx: 13059703326479143223

Chased.

I'm going to be away for 2-3 weeks now. It's probably best to chase txs via whale on SuperNET Slack or Sasha on Waves Slack, if you're on there. Hopefully there shouldn't be too many more of these now.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: PPan on July 20, 2016, 04:03:49 pm
Cassius, can you please check my NEXTBOND -> superBTC swap? Thanks
tx: 13059703326479143223

Chased.

I'm going to be away for 2-3 weeks now. It's probably best to chase txs via whale on SuperNET Slack or Sasha on Waves Slack, if you're on there. Hopefully there shouldn't be too many more of these now.

Unfortunately I did not receive the superBTC yet  :(
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Georgy on July 23, 2016, 12:20:00 pm
What are we supposed to do with NEXT now? Will you also refund? For what currency or asset? Or are we just supposed to loose all our money??

I'm an utterly disgusted NXT investor. I will never be able to trust anyone in this community anymore. The whole crew will be lucky if you don't get sued.

Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on July 25, 2016, 10:54:13 am
What are we supposed to do with NEXT now? Will you also refund? For what currency or asset? Or are we just supposed to loose all our money??

I'm an utterly disgusted NXT investor. I will never be able to trust anyone in this community anymore. The whole crew will be lucky if you don't get sued.

Thank you for your kind words. Next will continue to operate using its own funds, as it always has.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: dsalinas79 on July 25, 2016, 08:44:57 pm
5 days waiting for my superbtc. Can anybody please check? TX id 13568534527196260011
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on July 27, 2016, 08:32:52 pm
5 days waiting for my superbtc. Can anybody please check? TX id 13568534527196260011

On holiday but did follow this up again.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on August 01, 2016, 02:08:39 pm
NEXT (5504266111917554921)
Total issued assets: 1000000
Assets to be distributed to: 647593.0400000006
Dividend per asset: 0.04555329995516933
Summary of proposed distribution of 29500 NXT to 208 assetholders
Based on ownership at timestamp: 84755682 (8/1/2016 14:14:41)
Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: yassin54 on August 14, 2016, 11:24:14 am
NEXT (5504266111917554921)
Total issued assets: 1000000
Assets to be distributed to: 647593.0400000005
Dividend per asset: 0.037832401657683014
Summary of proposed distribution of 24500 NXT to 209 assetholders
Based on ownership at timestamp: 85878943 (8/14/2016 14:15:42)
Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: yassin54 on September 01, 2016, 08:41:08 am
NEXT (5504266111917554921)
Total issued assets: 1000000
Assets to be distributed to: 647593.0400000006
Dividend per asset: 0.04617097181896824
Summary of proposed distribution of 29900 NXT to 207 assetholders
Based on ownership at timestamp: 87422751 (9/1/2016 11:05:50)
Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: farl4bit on September 01, 2016, 09:18:25 am
Merci!  ;)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: jeff jefferson on September 15, 2016, 03:44:58 pm
no dividends today?
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on September 15, 2016, 06:06:40 pm
NEXT (5504266111917554921)

Total issued assets: 1000000

Assets to be distributed to: 647593.0400000007

Dividend per asset: 0.06331136603938788

Summary of proposed distribution of 41000 NXT to 207 assetholders

Based on ownership at timestamp: 88666689 (9/15/2016 20:38:08)

Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: jeff jefferson on September 19, 2016, 05:08:03 am
Why have I received some superbtcd from the cryptoasset fund? Not complaining, just asking why now and not before?

Thank you
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on September 19, 2016, 02:57:24 pm
Why have I received some superbtcd from the cryptoasset fund? Not complaining, just asking why now and not before?

Thank you

I do not know. :)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: jeff jefferson on September 20, 2016, 05:02:08 am
So Sasha is going to liquidate the NEXT bond just as MMBTCD bond? Any buy walls planned? Thank you
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on September 20, 2016, 05:54:05 pm
So Sasha is going to liquidate the NEXT bond just as MMBTCD bond? Any buy walls planned? Thank you

No, Next is different and will continue.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: jeff jefferson on September 20, 2016, 06:07:01 pm
Hmm, why is it different. And how will it continue with nxt being dead soon and ardor taking over.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on September 20, 2016, 09:04:31 pm
Hmm, why is it different. And how will it continue with nxt being dead soon and ardor taking over.

It's likely it will move to Waves and pay out in btc.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: jeff jefferson on September 20, 2016, 09:10:22 pm
but how soon?! in the meantime i'm stuck with the asset which pays little nxt which are becoming worthless. A timetable maybe??
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on September 21, 2016, 06:43:14 pm
but how soon?! in the meantime i'm stuck with the asset which pays little nxt which are becoming worthless. A timetable maybe??

It's not something over which I have any control, but Waves full nodes are on testnet and assets are next.
I also don't have any control over the fundamental new realities of the Nxt AE economy, Nxt as the Ardor snapshot approaches its end, or the broader crypto economy. Or for that matter the GBP/USD exchange rate, which also affects me, as all of the above affect me as an assetholder.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on October 02, 2016, 08:03:13 am
NEXT (5504266111917554921)

Total issued assets: 1000000

Assets to be distributed to: 647593.0400000005

Dividend per asset: 0.09110659991033868

Summary of proposed distribution of 59000 NXT to 250 assetholders

Based on ownership at timestamp: 90099109 (10/2/2016 10:31:48)

Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: farl4bit on October 02, 2016, 08:53:00 am
Thanks Cassius!  :)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: zimmox on October 09, 2016, 11:40:55 am
Hello I am a assetholder, we made a big profit with "THE SPIKE" of GPB / USD? or a big loss ?! :)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on October 11, 2016, 06:36:29 pm
Hello I am a assetholder, we made a big profit with "THE SPIKE" of GPB / USD? or a big loss ?! :)

We don't trade forex any more, but if you live in UK your crypto is worth a lot more than it would have been..
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: jeff jefferson on October 16, 2016, 02:14:47 pm
Any dividends this month?
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on October 17, 2016, 04:41:54 pm
Any dividends this month?

Yes! Sasha is just converting some funds.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on October 18, 2016, 10:22:51 am
NEXT (5504266111917554921)

Total issued assets: 1000000

Assets to be distributed to: 647593.0400000006

Dividend per asset: 0.13279945071676483

Summary of proposed distribution of 86000 NXT to 247 assetholders

Based on ownership at timestamp: 91491678 (10/18/2016 13:21:17)

Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: danisapfirov on October 18, 2016, 02:46:47 pm
Nothing received after the announcement. :)
Any idea where are the divs?
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on October 18, 2016, 05:43:32 pm
Nothing received after the announcement. :)
Any idea where are the divs?

You're right!
Hunting them now.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: danisapfirov on October 18, 2016, 05:55:58 pm
LOL! :)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: huafei on October 20, 2016, 02:21:12 am
anyone get pay the div?
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: jeff jefferson on October 20, 2016, 04:58:23 am
same here. no divs.  >:( !!!!
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: danisapfirov on October 20, 2016, 06:08:01 am
lopalcar (HdgFund) also claims he send dividents
https://nxtforum.org/assets-board/(ann)-hedge-fund-nxt-(weekly-dividends)/msg225729/#msg225729
Seems we have serious problem to solve
Divident paying module may have issues
Probably cassius and lopalcar use the same soft to pay divs
Daniel from ClubNxt is using another as his dividend history is available.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on October 20, 2016, 09:05:36 am
It seems like there's a fork or something. Sasha definitely paid the divs.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: huafei on October 20, 2016, 10:29:15 am
https://nxtportal.org/accounts/17485241073577386934

no div payment from NXT-ESXQ-5QFC-ARPP-HG2C7
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on October 20, 2016, 10:38:26 am
https://nxtportal.org/accounts/17485241073577386934

no div payment from NXT-ESXQ-5QFC-ARPP-HG2C7

Ok, that's suggesting that we're on the fork...
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: jeff jefferson on October 21, 2016, 01:24:45 pm
So what is the solution? Are we getting our dividends or what? Some kind of an update would be nice!
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on October 22, 2016, 12:20:15 pm
So what is the solution? Are we getting our dividends or what? Some kind of an update would be nice!

Sasha was reinstalling the client and trying again. Will post when it's gone through ok.
I'm away for the coming week, by the way.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: zimmox on October 23, 2016, 06:21:58 am
Hi, I worked hard to sell a few NEXT and sincerely this lack of punctuality puts me in trouble for future commitments, I hope you manage to solve this inconvenience soon!
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: danisapfirov on October 23, 2016, 10:46:08 am
I believe Sasha should try using latest client NRS Version: 1.10.3 and also should delete the database files in C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\NXT.
It will take few hours to download the database but this will put him on the right chain for sure. :)

Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: jeff jefferson on November 02, 2016, 06:31:11 am
Still haven't received any dividends because of the fork. What about the dividends for last 14 days? Today is the second of November.

If you guys have troubles with regular payments and obviously are not interested in maintaining the asset how about you just give us a possibility to get out of this asset. Just give us the nav value and close it. Just like the other assets you started.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on November 02, 2016, 02:26:14 pm
Still haven't received any dividends because of the fork. What about the dividends for last 14 days? Today is the second of November.

If you guys have troubles with regular payments and obviously are not interested in maintaining the asset how about you just give us a possibility to get out of this asset. Just give us the nav value and close it. Just like the other assets you started.

We're having trouble with the dividend plugin and can't contact the guy who coded it.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on November 02, 2016, 02:31:11 pm
If you guys have troubles with regular payments and obviously are not interested in maintaining the asset how about you just give us a possibility to get out of this asset. Just give us the nav value and close it. Just like the other assets you started.

If we can't make progress on this in the next week or so we will probably seriously consider that.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on November 05, 2016, 10:37:33 am
With apologies for the delay, and thanks to testdruif for helping us out!

NEXT (5504266111917554921)

Total available assets: 766242.24

Assets to be distributed to: 647593.0400000006

Dividend per asset: 0.13279945071676483

Summary of proposed distribution of 86000 NXT to 241 assetholders

Based on ownership at timestamp: 93046847 (11/5/2016 13:20:46)

Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)

This is an interim payment for the sake of speed. Next time we will catch up with all outstanding payments.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: farl4bit on November 05, 2016, 10:44:32 am
Thanks mate (and pigeon)!   ;D
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: jeff jefferson on November 05, 2016, 03:17:57 pm
Thanks, received. I hope we get the dividends from 15. October which were lost because you guys were on fork
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on November 06, 2016, 04:37:19 pm
Thanks, received. I hope we get the dividends from 15. October which were lost because you guys were on fork

Yes, of course we'll be catching up on all payments. No payments were lost, just delayed.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: jeff jefferson on November 17, 2016, 07:04:44 am
So again no dividends?  :'(
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on November 17, 2016, 09:36:20 am
So again no dividends?  :'(

In the pipeline...
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on November 20, 2016, 03:56:44 pm
So again no dividends?  :'(

In the pipeline...

NEXT (5504266111917554921)

Total available assets: 766242.24

Assets to be distributed to: 647593.0400000004

Dividend per asset: 0.15287378629022935

Summary of proposed distribution of 99000 NXT to 239 assetholders

Based on ownership at timestamp: 94356020 (11/20/2016 17:00:19)

Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on December 04, 2016, 12:49:27 pm
NEXT (5504266111917554921)
Total available assets: 766242.24
Assets to be distributed to: 647593.0400000005
Dividend per asset: 0.24706874551956254
Summary of proposed distribution of 160000 NXT to 237 assetholders
Based on ownership at timestamp: 95559474 (12/4/2016 15:17:53)
Prunable message included: Dividend from asset: NEXT(5504266111917554921)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: peddycb on January 05, 2017, 12:52:05 pm
Update ? Dividend ?

How is it going on...
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: jeff jefferson on January 06, 2017, 10:31:52 am
its so ridiculous, they are just not paying anything. nxt is going down. give the investors the chance to transit to waves finally or just close the asset if you are not willing to give a damn about it!!!!  >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: xcn on January 06, 2017, 05:08:54 pm
nxt is going down because of these shitty cryptofund and supernet assets... they got loads of nxts for their assets and keep selling them. :(
what's good is they are no more with nxt
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on January 07, 2017, 09:51:16 pm
Divs have been paid for December, just not recorded here. Next set on the way. We are up to date but for the last week. Selling nxt?! We buy it for divs. Find another scapegoat.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: xcn on January 08, 2017, 10:19:29 am
Yeah? All the issued assets were sold for millions of nxts, where are they?
And wheres cryptofund divs since august?
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on January 08, 2017, 01:22:59 pm
Yeah? All the issued assets were sold for millions of nxts, where are they?
And wheres cryptofund divs since august?

No idea. Ask someone involved in cryptofund.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: peddycb on January 09, 2017, 08:21:11 am
Probably  you know about upcoming WAVES platform, coinomat assets will be transferred to it once it's live and asset functionality is up. Also there will be some kind of burn protocol that will allow to transfer any NXT asset, and most probably assets from other platforms too. All coinomat assets will be actively developed and will have an important role in the WAVES ecosystem.

Coinomat project will have an important role for waves, basically it's going to be what shapeshifter is for ETH now - the way to buy WAVES fast. It will be integrated right into the WAVES clients. Coinomat project will be substantially upgraded after the WAVES ICO, we need to fight Shapeshift for the niche we invented - namely instant crypto exchange. A financial licensed will be obtained, and coinomat assets should become valuable after that.

Cryptofund asset will be transformed into the Waves foundation asset. Waves foundation will be a kind of a decentralized venture fund, investing in the projects launched on WAVES blockchain.  Waves asset will be the first asset launched on the new WAVES chain.

Index/IndexRev assets will be the foundation of a properly registered index mutual fund, investing algorithmically in cryptocurrency portfolios.  Nothing of the kind exists at the moment, but it's high time to start this fund.  The procedure of the fund registration will start in June.

NEXT/NEXTBOND will be a major trading fund using different approaches to cryptocurrencies trading. When WAVES network is up I really wanna try to pursue deep learning algos applied to cryptocurrency trading, I believe this might be huge.

Coinomat assets represent projects with a future and potential, this is just a humble beginning, all cool stuff is still ahead.

Stay tuned!
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: martismartis on January 09, 2017, 12:47:12 pm
Probably  you know about upcoming WAVES platform, coinomat assets will be transferred to it once it's live and asset functionality is up. Also there will be some kind of burn protocol that will allow to transfer any NXT asset, and most probably assets from other platforms too. All coinomat assets will be actively developed and will have an important role in the WAVES ecosystem.

Coinomat project will have an important role for waves, basically it's going to be what shapeshifter is for ETH now - the way to buy WAVES fast. It will be integrated right into the WAVES clients. Coinomat project will be substantially upgraded after the WAVES ICO, we need to fight Shapeshift for the niche we invented - namely instant crypto exchange. A financial licensed will be obtained, and coinomat assets should become valuable after that.

Cryptofund asset will be transformed into the Waves foundation asset. Waves foundation will be a kind of a decentralized venture fund, investing in the projects launched on WAVES blockchain.  Waves asset will be the first asset launched on the new WAVES chain.

Index/IndexRev assets will be the foundation of a properly registered index mutual fund, investing algorithmically in cryptocurrency portfolios.  Nothing of the kind exists at the moment, but it's high time to start this fund.  The procedure of the fund registration will start in June.

NEXT/NEXTBOND will be a major trading fund using different approaches to cryptocurrencies trading. When WAVES network is up I really wanna try to pursue deep learning algos applied to cryptocurrency trading, I believe this might be huge.

Coinomat assets represent projects with a future and potential, this is just a humble beginning, all cool stuff is still ahead.

Stay tuned!

That's a half year old post, lol :) Why do you repost it? Nothing changed after it was posted.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: jeff jefferson on January 09, 2017, 06:28:09 pm
Maybe to emphasize that nothing was accomplished so far
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: peddycb on January 09, 2017, 08:27:51 pm
please Inform yourself
There are certainly answers to your questions

http://sprnt.slackarchive.io/waves/

or

https://wavesplatform.slack.com/
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: FRogers on March 22, 2017, 03:29:00 am
More than one month without dividends. Is there a problem ?
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: D20160404 on March 23, 2017, 01:35:16 pm
An update would be nice
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on March 23, 2017, 09:54:55 pm
An update would be nice

Apologies, I don't check in here as often as I used to.
I've been holding off suggesting a div because I figured we'd be moving over to Waves pretty soon. Looks like it might be a bit longer so I'll ask Sasha to make a payment.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: FRogers on March 25, 2017, 01:17:03 pm
I can see that NXT-ESXQ-5QFC-ARPP-HG2C7 have made dividends payments for Cryptofund but nothing new for NEXT asset.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on March 29, 2017, 08:03:12 pm
I can see that NXT-ESXQ-5QFC-ARPP-HG2C7 have made dividends payments for Cryptofund but nothing new for NEXT asset.

It was made on 24 March.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: jeff jefferson on March 30, 2017, 07:00:23 pm
so can we get an update from sasha when we will move to waves? i mean DEX is now launched. why not trade NEXT there???!
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: FRogers on March 31, 2017, 02:23:11 am
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It was made on 24 March.

No you have paid dividends for the Cryptofund asset :

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Dividend from asset: Cryptofund(5562590132594876791)

When will we have dividends for the NEXT asset ? Last time was on 15th february.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on March 31, 2017, 01:23:54 pm
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It was made on 24 March.

No you have paid dividends for the Cryptofund asset :

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Dividend from asset: Cryptofund(5562590132594876791)

When will we have dividends for the NEXT asset ? Last time was on 15th february.

Sorry, you're right! I'll check.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: FRogers on April 01, 2017, 02:20:48 am
No problem. Many thanks for your help. :)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: D20160404 on April 18, 2017, 03:02:08 pm
I've been holding off suggesting a div because I figured we'd be moving over to Waves pretty soon. Looks like it might be a bit longer so I'll ask Sasha to make a payment.

Hi Cassius,
Do you or Coinomat have an idea when the move to Waves will happen?
And would the div then be changed to waves or would it be a nxt token?
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on April 19, 2017, 09:14:07 pm
I've been holding off suggesting a div because I figured we'd be moving over to Waves pretty soon. Looks like it might be a bit longer so I'll ask Sasha to make a payment.

Hi Cassius,
Do you or Coinomat have an idea when the move to Waves will happen?
And would the div then be changed to waves or would it be a nxt token?

Not sure yet on timing. Most likely it would pay out in btc.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on April 29, 2017, 12:42:34 pm
Latest div has just been paid out.
It's likely that this will be the last one on the Nxt blockchain. Arrangements are being made to move to Waves. We'll keep holders posted about the swap procedure, etc.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: D20160404 on May 24, 2017, 09:37:16 am
how are the arrangements going?  :)
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on May 26, 2017, 10:51:50 am
how are the arrangements going?  :)

Will check. It may be that we need to pay out another div or two on Nxt platform first.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: D20160404 on May 27, 2017, 09:58:04 am
Depending on the timeframe, I suggest sending divs 1 more time on nxt 1 day before the move. Then we all have a month for the move to waves.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: digicoiner on June 07, 2017, 04:32:04 pm
Any update on the swap procedure? Is this definitely transferring to the Waves DEX?
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on June 08, 2017, 11:48:08 pm
Any update on the swap procedure? Is this definitely transferring to the Waves DEX?

It definitely will. Still needs to be finalised.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: D20160404 on June 21, 2017, 11:18:02 am
It definitely will. Still needs to be finalised.
I would still like to see an update
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on June 21, 2017, 08:49:43 pm
It definitely will. Still needs to be finalised.
I would still like to see an update

Sorry, not on here much. Will bring this up again. It's time to move over to Waves, it's just finding the right moment.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: ThankYouMaam on September 29, 2017, 03:05:33 am
It definitely will. Still needs to be finalised.
I would still like to see an update

Sorry, not on here much. Will bring this up again. It's time to move over to Waves, it's just finding the right moment.
Is the right moment on the horizon?  there have been a lot of perfectly good ones, I think right one is the one that happens.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: D20160404 on October 11, 2017, 07:56:36 am
I would like to hear a timeframe from Coinomat when the move will happen or what we are waiting for. The last dividends are from April so it has almost been 6 months.   
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: shmoula on October 14, 2017, 06:53:58 pm
+1
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: D20160404 on November 03, 2017, 12:10:38 pm
Sasha held a Q&A yesterday. There he got asked a question about the NXT assets:

Q: What is the plan for the assets you launch on Nxt @sasha? Do you forget your first supporters?
A: Never :)  it just has to be done in a correct way, from legal point of view. there’s going to be a fund on Waves soon, and the assets will be swapped.

Although I don't like the way its has been handled (more Communication would have been nice) it looks like we are getting closer to moving to waves
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: D20160404 on January 02, 2018, 10:31:52 am
Any news about NEXT? I see sasha is starting some new fund and using these projects as a reference: https://blog.wavesplatform.com/waves-to-launch-blockchain-venture-capital-fund-92eb48d96098 (https://blog.wavesplatform.com/waves-to-launch-blockchain-venture-capital-fund-92eb48d96098).

Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: shmoula on March 04, 2018, 09:53:36 pm
Hey cassius, any news about the transfer?
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: Cassius on May 18, 2018, 11:43:03 pm
Hey cassius, any news about the transfer?

Hey,
I really don't check in here very often any more, so sorry for the delay.
I don't have any further information about this. I'll keep raising it as I get the opportunity. Unfortunately at this point that's all I can offer.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: D20160404 on September 06, 2018, 10:04:35 am
Still no news  :(
I asked on Discord but the mods don't even know what NEXT is.
They say they forwarded the question to the team, but after 3 months they still haven't given an answer back.
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: D20160404 on December 05, 2018, 01:17:14 pm
https://twitter.com/sasha35625/status/1068171197697937408
Title: Re: NEXT and NEXTBOND: unified trading fund and BTC arbitrage assets
Post by: seba on December 06, 2018, 03:45:41 pm
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