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Re: [ANN] Coinomat.com
« Reply #80 on: July 22, 2014, 03:33:20 pm »

that means, the first issue have a value at 4 NXT! Buy!!!!
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« Reply #81 on: July 22, 2014, 03:50:51 pm »

that means, the first issue have a value at 4 NXT! Buy!!!!

Error, it's 2 NXT. You buy too much, you lose too much.  :o
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« Reply #82 on: July 22, 2014, 04:13:16 pm »

that means, the first issue have a value at 4 NXT! Buy!!!!

Error, it's 2 NXT. You buy too much, you lose too much.  :o

If the second asset is sold at 2 NXT and the first asset is paid double, then isn't it 4 NXT worth?

Important: to compensate the rise in market price from 1 NXT to 2 NXT per share for the first issue the dividend payments for the first issue shareholders are doubled.... 
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Re: [ANN] Coinomat.com
« Reply #83 on: July 22, 2014, 05:47:39 pm »

Yes. No more shares for coinomat.com on any platform ever.
Can you confirm no more shares will be issued?
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« Reply #84 on: July 22, 2014, 05:49:15 pm »

no :) we pay double dividend for the first issue to make both issues effectively the same.  you can buy both issues for 2NXT now, and get the same dividend.
that means, the first issue have a value at 4 NXT! Buy!!!!
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Re: [ANN] Coinomat.com
« Reply #85 on: July 23, 2014, 08:36:16 am »

Is the graph misleading if NXT is not being added to the/a tally?

https://coinomat.com/globalstat.php
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« Reply #86 on: July 23, 2014, 08:50:14 am »

Actually the graph is fine, you can see BTC volume and equivalent NXT volume, for all operations. Dividend payouts will be made according to volume in NXT
Is the graph misleading if NXT is not being added to the/a tally?

https://coinomat.com/globalstat.php
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« Reply #87 on: July 23, 2014, 11:26:14 am »

Actually the graph is fine, you can see BTC volume and equivalent NXT volume, for all operations. Dividend payouts will be made according to volume in NXT
Is the graph misleading if NXT is not being added to the/a tally?

https://coinomat.com/globalstat.php
Then it would be consistent to have a NXT graph, no?
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« Reply #88 on: July 23, 2014, 12:40:22 pm »

:) Well yeah. But they are no so different, the only difference is NXT exchange rate. OK, we'll do it.
Actually the graph is fine, you can see BTC volume and equivalent NXT volume, for all operations. Dividend payouts will be made according to volume in NXT
Is the graph misleading if NXT is not being added to the/a tally?

https://coinomat.com/globalstat.php
Then it would be consistent to have a NXT graph, no?
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« Reply #89 on: July 23, 2014, 01:46:12 pm »

:) Well yeah. But they are no so different, the only difference is NXT exchange rate. OK, we'll do it.
Actually the graph is fine, you can see BTC volume and equivalent NXT volume, for all operations. Dividend payouts will be made according to volume in NXT
Is the graph misleading if NXT is not being added to the/a tally?

https://coinomat.com/globalstat.php
Then it would be consistent to have a NXT graph, no?
Thanks.  :)
Some people put much value on consistency. Thanks again.
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« Reply #90 on: July 23, 2014, 02:31:45 pm »

no :) we pay double dividend for the first issue to make both issues effectively the same.  you can buy both issues for 2NXT now, and get the same dividend.
that means, the first issue have a value at 4 NXT! Buy!!!!

Can you please clarity?  Does each first issue coinomat asset pay twice the dividend of a second issue coinomat1 asset?
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« Reply #91 on: July 23, 2014, 05:01:44 pm »

So what happens with coinomat shares on cryptostocks.com, it is one of the most stable listing over there 

For clarification, can you please describe
How many coinomat assets on NXT AE are required to earn 1 NXT per week.

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« Reply #92 on: July 23, 2014, 06:28:35 pm »

We'll message the cryptostocks shareholders this week, basically there are two options, either we buy back the sold shares or we do not sell any more shares and keep paying the dividend. For us it's more or less the same, the dividend payment is rather small there, cryptostocks always has problems with depositing funds etc. Probably the best would be to buy the shares back.
So what happens with coinomat shares on cryptostocks.com, it is one of the most stable listing over there 

For clarification, can you please describe
How many coinomat assets on NXT AE are required to earn 1 NXT per week.

Much Thanks
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« Reply #93 on: July 23, 2014, 06:40:22 pm »

How about issuing equivalent shares on NXT AE?

This will save on the gigantic withdrawal fees there .005 BTC (thats exactly equivalent to 1 share of coinomat there)
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« Reply #94 on: July 23, 2014, 06:56:20 pm »

no :) we pay double dividend for the first issue to make both issues effectively the same.  you can buy both issues for 2NXT now, and get the same dividend.
that means, the first issue have a value at 4 NXT! Buy!!!!

Can you please clarity?  Does each first issue coinomat asset pay twice the dividend of a second issue coinomat1 asset?
My understanding is that the coinomat1 asset will payout double the rate of the original coinomat asset and that the original coinomat asset will now get double the share that it used. So, moving forward both assets pay the same, but it is DOUBLE what it used to be.

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« Reply #95 on: July 23, 2014, 07:02:58 pm »

Yes, that's a good option too, just exchange cryptostocks shares for NXT shares. Not sure if everyone agrees, though
How about issuing equivalent shares on NXT AE?

This will save on the gigantic withdrawal fees there .005 BTC (thats exactly equivalent to 1 share of coinomat there)
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« Reply #96 on: July 23, 2014, 07:07:07 pm »

Yes, exactly. Since the market price for initial coinomat asset more than doubled in order to make both issues effectively the same we'll have to pay double dividend for the first one. This is rather unexpected, but we wouldn't like anyone to be disappointed, and this solution seems to be the most fair.
So please guys buy coinomat1 :)
no :) we pay double dividend for the first issue to make both issues effectively the same.  you can buy both issues for 2NXT now, and get the same dividend.
that means, the first issue have a value at 4 NXT! Buy!!!!

Can you please clarity?  Does each first issue coinomat asset pay twice the dividend of a second issue coinomat1 asset?
My understanding is that the coinomat1 asset will payout double the rate of the original coinomat asset and that the original coinomat asset will now get double the share that it used. So, moving forward both assets pay the same, but it is DOUBLE what it used to be.
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« Reply #97 on: July 23, 2014, 08:42:59 pm »

Lets see if we get the numbers straight...

You pay as dividend the 1,5% of the total transactions to your share holders.

There are now a total of 4.000.000 assets with both issues togheter
that makes 1.5%/4.000.000=0,000000375% per asset

Now you are paying
1.5%/7.000.000=0,000000214% per asset

If you double the payments to the original asset that makes 0,000000214%*2=0,000000428% per asset.

0,000000375% <> 0,000000428%

Does this mean the fist asset is more profitable? If not, what am I missing?

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« Reply #98 on: July 23, 2014, 08:49:23 pm »

Lets see if we get the numbers straight...

You pay as dividend the 1,5% of the total transactions to your share holders.

There are now a total of 4.000.000 assets with both issues togheter
that makes 1.5%/4.000.000=0,000000375% per asset

Now you are paying
1.5%/7.000.000=0,000000214% per asset

If you double the payments to the original asset that makes 0,000000214%*2=0,000000428% per asset.

0,000000375% <> 0,000000428%

Does this mean the fist asset is more profitable? If not, what am I missing?

Your not the only one confused.  I'd like to understand more also.  Something like this should not be so complicated
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« Reply #99 on: July 23, 2014, 09:02:11 pm »

Yes it is, for those who bought it at 1 NXT, it is more profitable.
But since now both of them trade for 2 NXT,  if you buy Coinomat or Coinomat1 asset you get the same dividend per share. That is each NXT invested in Coinomat or Coinomat1 yields the same profit.
Lets see if we get the numbers straight...

You pay as dividend the 1,5% of the total transactions to your share holders.

There are now a total of 4.000.000 assets with both issues togheter
that makes 1.5%/4.000.000=0,000000375% per asset

Now you are paying
1.5%/7.000.000=0,000000214% per asset

If you double the payments to the original asset that makes 0,000000214%*2=0,000000428% per asset.

0,000000375% <> 0,000000428%

Does this mean the fist asset is more profitable? If not, what am I missing?
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