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Jean-Luc

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Tagged Data UI
« on: December 17, 2015, 11:38:33 am »

In 1.7.3e, we are adding UI for the little used Tagged Data feature. There was already an upload file dialog, but no way to browse or search the uploaded files. Now we are adding a browse and search UI, very similar to the Marketplace, a table of clickable tags, a list of most recently uploaded files, and free text search field. With the addition of archival nodes in 1.6, there is now also a method to force retrieval even of expired files and get them from archival nodes, as long as the user knows the document id (transaction id) from somewhere, or just looks up the transaction from the account history.

Now, we need a much better name for this feature. Tagged Data is too technical and obscure. We are open to suggestions, and if needed can do a vote about it. This is what we came up so far:

Document Broadcast
Distributed Info
Free Speech

Since it can be used for any type of content, the name should not be self-limiting, so names like Nxt Leaks or Nxt Torrents are probably not good. If we call it File Sharing, people will think mp3 and pictures, but this feature is not very suitable for those as the file size is limited, 42k only (unless what you share is actually a magnet link). But it is good for the distribution of plain text documents, small pdf or doc files, gpg keys. Also, the emphasis should be on the fact that is censorship-free distribution of the documents, signed and timestamped so that they can't be tampered with, but it is not a hosting platform for publishing, the documents expire after 90 days by default and retrieving them from archival nodes requires knowing the document id, there is no way to search for already expired files unless you go to an open API archival node directly.
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Re: Tagged Data UI
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2015, 12:09:40 pm »

Awesome! Can't wait to try it out. Maybe it could be used in combo with Sia decentralized file storage too. I like the name Free Speach.
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Re: Tagged Data UI
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2015, 12:12:36 pm »

File share.
File storage.
File torrent.
Small Doc
Small File
Small Data
Data Hub
Cloud Data
Cloud File

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« Last Edit: December 17, 2015, 01:43:59 pm by allwelder »
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Re: Tagged Data UI
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2015, 12:44:22 pm »

String Data.
Free String.

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Re: Tagged Data UI
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2015, 01:09:26 pm »

Free Speech and Data Hub, both ok.
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Re: Tagged Data UI
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2015, 01:14:48 pm »

Document Vault
Data Vault
File Vault
File Сellar
DataDepot
DocuDepot
DocuChest
InfoChest
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Re: Tagged Data UI
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2015, 02:50:21 pm »

"Document Broadcast" sounds perfect to me. "Broadcast" captures that it is not long-term storage; it's not a vault. "Document" seems generic enough without implying large size.

Otherwise, "Noticeboard" might be a more homely metaphor. You're pinning or posting documents in a public space for others to see, like a newsagents window, knowing they'll get taken down after a while. Another good word might be "Notarized", which captures the notion of it being timestamped and signed (and hence unalterable). So "Notarized Noticeboard".
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Re: Tagged Data UI
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2015, 03:10:38 pm »

"Transaction Attachment"

Most people are familiar with the concept of an email attachment which has size limit implications already.
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Re: Tagged Data UI
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2015, 03:15:27 pm »

"Transaction Attachment"

Most people are familiar with the concept of an email attachment which has size limit implications already.

Transaction attachment is an overloaded term, we already use this term for any transaction specific information such messages, aliases, votes etc.
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Re: Tagged Data UI
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2015, 03:17:09 pm »

"Document Broadcast" sounds perfect to me. "Broadcast" captures that it is not long-term storage; it's not a vault. "Document" seems generic enough without implying large size.

Otherwise, "Noticeboard" might be a more homely metaphor. You're pinning or posting documents in a public space for others to see, like a newsagents window, knowing they'll get taken down after a while. Another good word might be "Notarized", which captures the notion of it being timestamped and signed (and hence unalterable). So "Notarized Noticeboard".

Trying to develop your idea, how about the concept of "Digital Billboard" ? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_billboard)
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Re: Tagged Data UI
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2015, 03:22:25 pm »

I really like the term Cloud for this feature.

Not that just the term Cloud is very popular these days, it is misunderstood by a lot of people.



But with Nxt, we come even closer to the term "cloud". It is a bunch of people computers where you upload your things to and it is meant to stay as long as you pay the fees for it.

I think the "cloud" could also attract more developers coming and trying it out, maybe want to develop with it because there are so many proven benefits if you are using the "cloud".

And this with Nxt the cloud is really becoming a cloud. Where a lot of parties host your files, it is public available, it is always available. Use it to store information and share easily with others. Next year coming, the Nxt Cloud:

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Re: Tagged Data UI
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2015, 03:34:24 pm »

Make feature names much easier to remember, spread and better brand,please.
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Re: Tagged Data UI
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2015, 04:02:57 pm »

I like the new "document broadcast" feature from Nxt.

But maybe I would add this:

P2P document broadcast.

or maybe (another suggestion)

Lightweight P2P broadcast.

Everyone using internet knows what p2p means and it give more information on the system, it tell that the system is decentralized.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2015, 04:05:40 pm by Sebastien256 »
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Re: Tagged Data UI
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2015, 05:52:31 pm »

I really like the term Cloud for this feature.

Not that just the term Cloud is very popular these days, it is misunderstood by a lot of people.



But with Nxt, we come even closer to the term "cloud". It is a bunch of people computers where you upload your things to and it is meant to stay as long as you pay the fees for it.

I think the "cloud" could also attract more developers coming and trying it out, maybe want to develop with it because there are so many proven benefits if you are using the "cloud".

And this with Nxt the cloud is really becoming a cloud. Where a lot of parties host your files, it is public available, it is always available. Use it to store information and share easily with others. Next year coming, the Nxt Cloud:



I like the term "nxt" cloud +1440
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Re: Tagged Data UI
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2015, 01:02:03 am »

Data Share
NXT Share
Data Cloud
Small Cloud
Small Data Cloud
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Re: Tagged Data UI
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2015, 05:04:55 am »

P2P document broadcast.

or maybe (another suggestion)

Lightweight P2P broadcast.

How about Lightweight document broadcast, ;D
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Re: Tagged Data UI
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2015, 08:25:55 am »

Hi :)
the "Doc Box" or "Documents Box" or "Files Inventory"...
the name is not important if this tool is not used for the delivery of downloadable virtual goods and products bought from marketplace...
in fact, what are the usual scenarios of this system? it used for?
the following is really needed...
https://nxtforum.org/core-development-discussion/list-of-feature-request-for-nrs/msg200408/#msg200408

Thank you and @++
« Last Edit: December 18, 2015, 08:29:24 am by OutSL »
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Re: Tagged Data UI
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2015, 06:04:59 pm »

Maybe we could set some space for "patrocinated messages", where somebody could place his publicity ("buy computer at computers.com", for example, or "Vote for Lincoln"), in a privileged place of this section. The order of this messages could be established by the tax they paid (the biger, the higher).
The name of the sections could be "notice board".
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