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[MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« on: April 06, 2014, 08:18:43 pm »

Guys/gals/beasts-from-beyond:

I'm trying to find time to post an update for the BTC2014 conference thread, together with a comprehensive budget, but there are 3 payment requests that need to be resolved fairly quickly, so I'm going to just submit them here, and then incorporate them into the overall budget later on.

Number 1:
Our billing for the Contributing Sponsor slot at the conference itself needs to be paid soon. I sent a copy of the billing to salsacz a while ago, but I've just recieved a little reminder to pay from the BTC team leader. Total for this is € 1500, billing can be completed in BTC or fiat.

Number 2a:
The RaspPiSolar is (almost) complete, built and tested for us by Ebereon. It would be good to pay him before he ships it out, he has made a lot of up-front costs to build it for us. I'll send Ebereons bill to salsacz, it comes to €280 including €17 shipping costs, but not including batteries, see 2b

Number 2b: Because of shipping regulations, Ebereon can't include batteries with the RPS when he ships it, so I have to buy batteries for it. I've located a supplier for the correct (seriously specialised) batteries and will order them tonight, if I can get my credit card out of my wallet.  Total cost, inclusive post+packing is €75.

Number 3:
My personal billling for the hours that I've put in so far comes to 6250 NXT, covering my billing for around 15-20 hours work on the conference up to the beginning of this month.  I'm putting in a lot of time here, and I need to see something back for it......

Summary:
Bitcoin2014:  € 1500 or 73529 NXT (@ €0.0204/NXT)
Ebereon:      €   280 or 13725 NXT
EvilDave:      €    75 or  3676  NXT (batteries)
EvilDave:      €   150 or  6250 NXT (work hours, calculated on last weeks rate, €0.024/NXT)

This comes to a grand total of: 97,180 NXT.
Seems like a lot of NXT, and it is, but that has covered most of the expected big costs for the conference.

Update 13/04/2014:
Based on the above totals, I would like to make a formal request to salsacz to transfer 100,000 NXT from the conference fund to the following NXT account:

17812184667093299484

These funds will be used (as stated above) to pay for:  the sponsorship costs for Bitcoin2014, the purchase/build costs for the RaspPiSolar and for my worked hours up until 01/04/2014

I would also like to ask the MC to consider my request for a further 50,000 to 100,000 NXT funding for the remaining conference costs.
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Re: [MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2014, 10:35:48 pm »

Salsa,

Can you clear up how much of this will be difinitely covered by the funds you are administering?

That way we know how much will be needed from the MC funds.

Thanks  :)
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Re: [MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2014, 10:46:49 pm »

There are 185k Nxt for conferences. Till summer there is only Vienna and it already has a fund of 15k by McJavar.
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Re: [MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2014, 10:58:40 pm »

So is this all covered by the fund or not?

Please specify how much will come put of your fund max.

Then we can see what amount we need to cover.

If it can all be done from your fund, please tell us.

Thanks  :)
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Re: [MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2014, 11:04:35 pm »

Owright boys...

3 points:

Exchange rate, bugger...we'll have to redo all the numbers, hope NXT goes back up to save some maths work.

Ebereons RPS is also going to Vienna, in principle.

It would be good to have the Bitcoin2014 sponsor slot paid, then I can exert a bit more pressure to get the bloody speaker slot sorted.

@Damelon...r u in scary clown mode again....sooon?
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Re: [MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2014, 12:10:40 am »

@EvilDave
no need for some Brochures of Nxt ?
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Re: [MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2014, 12:21:44 am »


So is this all covered by the fund or not?

Please specify how much will come put of your fund max.

Then we can see what amount we need to cover.

If it can all be done from your fund, please tell us.

Thanks  :)

+1 -- I can't make a decision here without this piece -- and I know Dave is under some pressure to get the finances sorted ASAP (like, within 18 hours)
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Re: [MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2014, 05:57:51 am »

all 185k Nxt are available if we decide to spend them. If this fund will get to the zero, we will have to use the big fund/crowdfunding kickstarter, but it won't be sooner than in June. That time we will have probably sorted out that roadplan, like we are working on in a speaker topic. So the budget is and it is still big.
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Re: [MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2014, 06:05:57 am »

so the questions are:

- are we having a speaker slot there?

- is cameraman coming?

- what is prepared for the booth we have reserved?

- what is the best number of Nxters that could help to the event?

- what about travel and accomodation expenses for Nxters and a speaker?

- what about tickets for Nxters/speaker?

- what about costs of the booth items?
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Re: [MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2014, 06:13:38 am »

EvilDave,

what about setting of Android TV stick for Amsterdam and all upcoming conferences? As I understand, Fatih didn't succeed with his own. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Price for the stick is 75 EUR plus shipping cost within Europe. Setting the stick is my expenses, no need to refund.
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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2014, 06:14:50 am »

Yea. I failed to get it working. Did my best.
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Re: [MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2014, 08:26:09 am »

- is cameraman coming?


I want a pro on that (or it must be cheap)
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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2014, 08:55:22 am »

Damelon had someone lined up for that if I remember correctly.

We discussed that he could get in for free? on a press card.
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Re: [MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2014, 01:01:03 pm »

salsacz;
Going through your points:

so the questions are:

- are we having a speaker slot there?
Yes, but it's taking a long time to get this confirmed. Latest news is that l8orre will be confirmed in a speaker slot Monday.

- is cameraman coming?
Damelon is on this.

- what is prepared for the booth we have reserved?
Check the main Conference thread:
https://nxtforum.org/nxt-promotion/bitcoin2014-btc-foundation-conference-amsterdam-may-15-17/
RaspPiSolar is ready for the stand, promo materials need to be sorted (Damelon again...)

- what is the best number of Nxters that could help to the event?
As many as possible, IMHO. 4-5 minimum,really.

- what about travel and accomodation expenses for Nxters and a speaker?
Good question, is that going to come out of the conference fund ?

- what about tickets for Nxters/speaker?
Again, from conference fund or not ?

- what about costs of the booth items?
RPS is going to be at other conferences, so Eb needs to be paid out of conference funds. Other booth items are not yet decided on.

I can't make decisions on my own about some of these costs, for example travel/living expenses for attendees. That needs to be discussed by the MC.
Once the above 100 kNXT is paid, we can then set the remaining budget.....
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Re: [MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2014, 01:03:19 pm »

EvilDave,

what about setting of Android TV stick for Amsterdam and all upcoming conferences? As I understand, Fatih didn't succeed with his own. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Price for the stick is 75 EUR plus shipping cost within Europe. Setting the stick is my expenses, no need to refund.

Lets hold off for a while on making any extra commitments. Do people want to see an Android stick forging away at the conference or is the RPS enough?
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Re: [MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2014, 01:11:54 pm »

Dave: do you think this is the best crypto event of the year?

(I think it is)
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Re: [MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2014, 01:13:29 pm »

EvilDave,

what about setting of Android TV stick for Amsterdam and all upcoming conferences? As I understand, Fatih didn't succeed with his own. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Price for the stick is 75 EUR plus shipping cost within Europe. Setting the stick is my expenses, no need to refund.

Lets hold off for a while on making any extra commitments. Do people want to see an Android stick forging away at the conference or is the RPS enough?

OK, no problem. Just inform me if You'll need one.
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Re: [MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2014, 04:43:57 pm »

Dave: do you think this is the best crypto event of the year?

(I think it is)
This is probably the headlining crypto conference for Europe this year, maybe in the world. So, yeah....

I've finally recieved the info pack with contracts, logo information, etc, so I'll go thru it in the next few hours and see what needs to be sorted out.

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Re: [MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2014, 11:54:05 am »

- is cameraman coming?


I want a pro on that (or it must be cheap)

Cameraman was already confirmed.
He works for Dutch television, so yes: he is pro.
I'm currently seeing if he also has a press card, as he is mainly a documentary maker, but he might have one.

References are available, but I am not going to make them public as I haven't checked that with him, yet.


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« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2014, 12:31:01 pm »

+1
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« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2014, 07:59:12 pm »

This is gonna be a very quick post, angry g/f trying to get my attention.

I've recieved all of the paperwork for the Conference organisation, posted relevant practical points on the conference thread here;
https://nxtforum.org/nxt-promotion/bitcoin2014-btc-foundation-conference-amsterdam-may-15-17/

I want to keep this thread for finance discussion, the other thread for more practical issues.

On funding: So far I've commited to spending approximately 100,000 NXT, which is covered in my first post here.
That covers most of the big expenses for the conference, but we can certainly spend another 50-100,000 on the remainder, depending really on how many people are going to be sponsored by NXT to attend.

So my official budget estimate is 150,000 to 200,000 NXT, depending on how large we make the conference team and on the exchange rate.

I really need to have the first 100,000 paid out to the Bitcoin2014 team, Ebereon and myself as soon as possible, so I'd like to ask salsacz to commit 100,000 from his conference fund to immediately cover this.
This will leave 85,000 NXT in the fund for the Vienna conference, and they will also be able to have the RPS, so that comes to a 50/50 split between the 2 comferences.

Further costs could be covered by the MC or possibly private donations.....

But I need to have these funds rolling by the beginning/middle of next week, any later and it will start to be a problem.

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Re: [MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2014, 09:08:24 pm »

all 185k Nxt are available if we decide to spend them.

Who decides how much of that marketing fund will be allocated, and when will that decision be made? 

I have NO ISSUES with EvilDave's proposal and support it -- but I have NO IDEA how much of the Marketing Committee fund we are being asked to commit.

All I need is some clarity on this specific point, and then I'm ready to cast my vote.
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Re: [MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2014, 09:09:31 pm »

Dave: please update the OP, where would be:

1) how much Nxt you need (from conf fund (now 185k))

2) NXT ID

3) short description of what is it for

I hope you're OK with this request.
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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2014, 10:40:59 pm »

@salsa...no problemo. I'll update in a minute or 10.....need to create a new, seriously secure NXT account first.

Just to be completely clear: my initial request is for 100,000 NXT from the (salsacz-administered) conference fund, currently at 185,000 NXT.
Like I said, this will allow Vienna (or later conferences) to have 85,000 NXT still available from the salsacz fund, and will also have paid for the RaspPiSolar.

@joefox: I would like the marketing fund to be able to commit to a minimum of 50,000 NXT (maximum 100,000) for further conference funding. This will cover promotional material (Damelon, not very expensive), any additional ticket costs, video/photo costs, my further worked hours and a few small bounty payments for logos and general help.

Updated  my OP, 13/04/2014 01:15.

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« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2014, 11:16:27 pm »

By the way: I spoke to the camera man today and he is not in possession of a press card as he is not a member of the press, but rather a documentary maker.
So he will not be able to enter on a press basis.

He wíll be available to make material for different purposes, so we can ask him to film material that can be used multiple times in videos.
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« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2014, 11:18:43 pm »

Hmmm...I might be able to get some press accreditation.  Emphasis on might.....

Does camera guy wants some form of reward from us....and do u have any idea how much that will be?
Need to get working on phase 2 of my budgeting here.
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« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2014, 11:22:10 pm »

Hmmm...I might be able to get some press accreditation.  Emphasis on might.....

Does camera guy wants some form of reward from us....and do u have any idea how much that will be?
Need to get working on phase 2 of my budgeting here.

Nope, he is a friend who likes to do me a favour :).
If we can give him something, that would be nice, but he is doing this because he likes doing nice things for people.
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« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2014, 12:21:50 am »

Salsa, Dave has added his request to the OP as you asked.
Can you now please give a clear answer to his request?
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Re: [MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2014, 01:22:55 am »

It's a lot of money, but since we all had a lot of time to think about it and we - here - agree it is a good idea to do it, I'll go sync the blockchain...

PS: but only thanks to bitcoinpaul's +1

edit: http://www.mynxt.info/blockexplorer/details.php?action=tx&tx=2682866585897767513
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Re: [MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2014, 10:14:56 am »

Salsa:

Thank you very much, mate. Just checked, the 100 kNXT is safe on the account.
I'll start getting rid of it today, paying Ebereon for the RPS and getting some BTC together for the conference payment.

I'll be keeping a full record of how the funds are spent (or converted to BTC, then spent.), if anyone wants to check my numbers.

(thanks to bitcoinpaul for the +1, btw, have an upvote !)

EDIT: I started liquidating my own personal NXT supply on DGEX and Cryptsy to get in early with BTC purchases, but the market blows right now. I'm afraid that the 100,000 won't go as far as i'd hoped. I'll prioritize paying Ebereon and the conference, put my own payments on hold for a while, and hope that NXT makes some gains soon......
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Re: [MC] Funding requests for BitCoin2014 conference.
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2014, 05:50:23 am »

There are 185k Nxt for conferences. Till summer there is only Vienna and it already has a fund of 15k by McJavar.

Just to clarify:

The 15k were private donations and had nothing to do with the MC.
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