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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 54.5% return so far, >894k dividends, ~12GH
« Reply #360 on: November 12, 2014, 08:39:58 pm »

Been a long time since I looked into it but Google 2FA does not need a google account, not a connection to their servers.  Well, the app mihht connect to google to syncronize an internal clock, but it doesn't pass the data back-and-forth.

If you split your google 2FA seed, you can split the account.
Is there an easy way to do this? :p

It's possible. Just take the token the 2FA screen presents and send one person the first half, and another person the second half.
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 54.5% return so far, >894k dividends, ~12GH
« Reply #361 on: November 12, 2014, 08:43:02 pm »

Bad news: if lastpass' crypto is broken, then Nxt's crypto is broken. This would be news to me.

Seriously though, latpass has been vetted by leading security analysists - Steve Gibson et all - I'm choosing to trust it.
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 54.5% return so far, >894k dividends, ~12GH
« Reply #362 on: November 12, 2014, 08:45:09 pm »

Bad news: if lastpass' crypto is broken, then Nxt's crypto is broken. This would be news to me.

Right, I was just thinking the same thing. They wouldn't need my vault, cause they can just crack all my NXT, BTC, etc private keys.
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 54.5% return so far, >894k dividends, ~12GH
« Reply #363 on: November 12, 2014, 10:44:22 pm »

LastPass is not safe.  So many trivial vulnerabilities have already been reported and more continue to be announced.  A cloud based password safe, though convenient, is more vulnerable and more of a target, a gigantic pot of honey.  Don't be foolish and don't keep your passwords there.

You should use a private password safe such as Schneier's Password Safe or KeePass.

Please elaborate because from everything I've read by peer review lastpass is safe.

What trivial vulnerabilities? Who "announced" them?

While the passwords are saved on their server, it is only the encrypted version, that is encrypted client side. Lastpass never sends your password.

I am far from foolish believe me. You say things, without pointing to any reliable information.

Well most recently we have this http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/14/popular_web_password_vaults_blurting_codes/

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A second CSRF bug affected LastPass one time passwords. It could allow attackers to see which apps and devices were running LastPass, to steal the entire master password-encrypted vault for later brute-forcing, and to erase any stored website password.

The disclosure prompted LastPass to issue a statement playing down vulnerabilities affecting its Java bookmarklets and one time passwords which if run on a malicious website could compromise user accounts prior to a fix pushed out in September.

Why put your most sensitive data into someone else's hands?
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 54.5% return so far, >894k dividends, ~12GH
« Reply #364 on: November 12, 2014, 10:54:27 pm »

Bad news: if lastpass' crypto is broken, then Nxt's crypto is broken. This would be news to me.

Seriously though, latpass has been vetted by leading security analysists - Steve Gibson et all - I'm choosing to trust it.

Last and NXT are different beasts.  Lastpass uses AES (symmetric) whereas NXT is using ECC (public key).  NXT doesn't store encrypted copies of your private keys anywhere. Though I hear some people upload them to their Lastpass vaults for extra excitement.
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 54.5% return so far, >894k dividends, ~12GH
« Reply #365 on: November 13, 2014, 03:50:59 am »

Been a long time since I looked into it but Google 2FA does not need a google account, not a connection to their servers.  Well, the app mihht connect to google to syncronize an internal clock, but it doesn't pass the data back-and-forth.

If you split your google 2FA seed, you can split the account.
Is there an easy way to do this? :p

Do you already have a qr code from ltgear? If so, scan it with your phone and copy the 2fa seed to another place

Yeah, basically read in the QR data and there should be some string that is the seed.  Split the string in  n parts and distribute it to n parties.
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 54.5% return so far, >894k dividends, ~12GH
« Reply #366 on: November 13, 2014, 09:51:39 pm »

Why put your most sensitive data into someone else's hands?

First, I don't. I let them backup an encrypted version of my passwords to their servers so I can sync it with multiple devices.

Second, I have 2FA set up on every important account (those with money and my email) that I use. So, even if someone was able to 1, get a copy of my encrypted vault, and 2, crack my long complex password, they would not be able to access my accounts.

So... it's about using best practices, safe computing and layers of security.

But.... we are getting off topic.
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 54.5% return so far, >894k dividends, ~12GH
« Reply #367 on: November 14, 2014, 12:30:47 am »

Why put your most sensitive data into someone else's hands?

First, I don't. I let them backup an encrypted version of my passwords to their servers so I can sync it with multiple devices.


Whether encrypted or not it's in their hands.  Trust as you will, we in China do not.
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 54.5% return so far, >894k dividends, ~12GH
« Reply #368 on: November 14, 2014, 05:15:56 am »

Why put your most sensitive data into someone else's hands?

First, I don't. I let them backup an encrypted version of my passwords to their servers so I can sync it with multiple devices.


Whether encrypted or not it's in their hands.  Trust as you will, we in China do not.

I trust the science of crypto. ;)
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 54.5% return so far, >894k dividends, ~12GH
« Reply #369 on: November 14, 2014, 08:06:17 am »

Why put your most sensitive data into someone else's hands?

First, I don't. I let them backup an encrypted version of my passwords to their servers so I can sync it with multiple devices.


Whether encrypted or not it's in their hands.  Trust as you will, we in China do not.

I trust the science of crypto. ;)

Science says that the security afforded by a given encryption is a temporary thing.  Crypto gets weaker over time as cryptanalysis improves and computers get faster.  In 10-20 years the encrypted data you already uploaded will be easily broken into. You must therefore consider everything you've already uploaded plaintext in 20 years. They already have it. Security must be thought of over the long term. It's a holistic process. Hopefully you don't work for a bank.
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 54.5% return so far, >894k dividends, ~12GH
« Reply #370 on: November 14, 2014, 08:30:41 am »

Why put your most sensitive data into someone else's hands?

First, I don't. I let them backup an encrypted version of my passwords to their servers so I can sync it with multiple devices.


Whether encrypted or not it's in their hands.  Trust as you will, we in China do not.

I trust the science of crypto. ;)

Science says that the security afforded by a given encryption is a temporary thing.  Crypto gets weaker over time as cryptanalysis improves and computers get faster.  In 10-20 years the encrypted data you already uploaded will be easily broken into. You must therefore consider everything you've already uploaded plaintext in 20 years. They already have it. Security must be thought of over the long term. It's a holistic process. Hopefully you don't work for a bank.

Your prediction is based on Moore's Law.
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 54.5% return so far, >894k dividends, ~12GH
« Reply #371 on: November 14, 2014, 02:13:39 pm »

Your prediction is based on Moore's Law.

Yes, but also advances in human knowledge on cryptography.  It's not a level playing field either. Some have more of both computational power and knowledge.  Schneier said things that come from the NSA look as if from an alien race for a reason: https://www.schneier.com/essays/archives/2004/08/cryptanalysis_of_md5.html
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 54.5% return so far, >894k dividends, ~12GH
« Reply #372 on: November 14, 2014, 02:56:10 pm »

Why put your most sensitive data into someone else's hands?

First, I don't. I let them backup an encrypted version of my passwords to their servers so I can sync it with multiple devices.


Whether encrypted or not it's in their hands.  Trust as you will, we in China do not.

I trust the science of crypto. ;)

Science says that the security afforded by a given encryption is a temporary thing.  Crypto gets weaker over time as cryptanalysis improves and computers get faster.  In 10-20 years the encrypted data you already uploaded will be easily broken into. You must therefore consider everything you've already uploaded plaintext in 20 years. They already have it. Security must be thought of over the long term. It's a holistic process. Hopefully you don't work for a bank.

If you think in 10-20 years we will still be using Username/Password to present credentials then you also aren't considering things either. But, thanks for being the smartest guy in the room and insulting me. Much appreciated.

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« Reply #373 on: November 14, 2014, 03:07:54 pm »

If you think in 10-20 years we will still be using Username/Password to present credentials then you also aren't considering things either. But, thanks for being the smartest guy in the room and insulting me. Much appreciated.

Passwords and secret keys are cryptographic primitives and are here to stay. I apologize if I've insulted you. This is serious stuff that could influence security practices concerning assets of great value. It matters a lot.
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 54.5% return so far, >894k dividends, ~12GH
« Reply #374 on: November 14, 2014, 03:11:42 pm »

If you think in 10-20 years we will still be using Username/Password to present credentials then you also aren't considering things either. But, thanks for being the smartest guy in the room and insulting me. Much appreciated.

Passwords and secret keys are cryptographic primitives and are here to stay. I apologize if I've insulted you. This is serious stuff that could influence security practices concerning assets of great value. It matters a lot.

If we are still using Username/Password, and if some quantum leap in computing/crypto happens I will be sure to change my passwords, so if someone does somehow get a copy of my vault that was encrypted with lesser crypto then that info would be useless. I also as I said have the additional protection of 2FA.

Can we get back to mining.

What the expected payout percentage this week?
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 54.5% return so far, >894k dividends, ~12GH
« Reply #375 on: November 14, 2014, 03:15:41 pm »

What the expected payout percentage this week?

I think I'll make more Nxt this week than last week  ;D
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« Reply #376 on: November 14, 2014, 03:31:18 pm »

If you think in 10-20 years we will still be using Username/Password to present credentials then you also aren't considering things either. But, thanks for being the smartest guy in the room and insulting me. Much appreciated.

Passwords and secret keys are cryptographic primitives and are here to stay. I apologize if I've insulted you. This is serious stuff that could influence security practices concerning assets of great value. It matters a lot.

If we are still using Username/Password, and if some quantum leap in computing/crypto happens I will be sure to change my passwords, so if someone does somehow get a copy of my vault that was encrypted with lesser crypto then that info would be useless. I also as I said have the additional protection of 2FA.

Can we get back to mining.

What the expected payout percentage this week?
It's hard to say, with the price of NXT having fallen considerably more than the price of LTC and the fact that the payouts should be at least 15% higher than last week (even after the 10% share multiplication was sent out) - they should be one of the higher payouts that we've seen.
As soon as LTCgear's posts their numbers I will be able to confirm this
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« Reply #377 on: November 14, 2014, 11:31:49 pm »

Still waiting on LTCGear to send the weekly payout.
Refer to post #2, dividend will be distributed sometime between now and tomorrow (saturday night).

Due to some slow blocks on the bitcoin blockchain I will get the dividends distributed tomorrow as opposed to today.

It seems that the new multiplication shares only paid out for part of the week again (tuesday -> friday), which may impact our % roi slightly. future weeks should be higher (because the multiplication shares will be profitable for the full week).  I had been hoping to avoid this by Chris sending out the multiplication shares on saturday, however they were delayed and c'est la vie.
 
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 54.5% return so far, >894k dividends, ~12GH
« Reply #378 on: November 15, 2014, 01:37:18 am »

Still waiting on LTCGear to send the weekly payout.
Refer to post #2, dividend will be distributed sometime between now and tomorrow (saturday night).

Due to some slow blocks on the bitcoin blockchain I will get the dividends distributed tomorrow as opposed to today.

It seems that the new multiplication shares only paid out for part of the week again (tuesday -> friday), which may impact our % roi slightly. future weeks should be higher (because the multiplication shares will be profitable for the full week).  I had been hoping to avoid this by Chris sending out the multiplication shares on saturday, however they were delayed and c'est la vie.

cool. thanks for letting us know
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 54.5% return so far, >894k dividends, ~12GH
« Reply #379 on: November 15, 2014, 01:40:04 am »

PF you going to the outlaws for dinner this week ;)
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