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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 42% return so far, over 564k NXT dividends!
« Reply #180 on: November 02, 2014, 09:31:13 pm »


I just wrote that this is not substainable:


Clearly that is your view.  I'm asking for someone (else) to chime in with an argument for how they can.

It is not my view. Math can prove that it can't.

It's like moore law with silicon chips, transistor can't be make it smaller and smaller forever.

Who is to say that he keeps redesigning the miners? From what I know, he is currently on his third generation of private hardware but just keeps bringing more hardware online.  #LTCGEAR knows about one data centre and he has mentioned via email bringing two additional data centres online in other geographic regions.

(and haha, I've offered to send him my resume twice to help him build a Canadian one but no response thus far)

Maybe the business model is substainable for a couple years, i did not made any estimation. But not foreever, for sure. Eventually it have to slow down, especially since the exponential base 1.35 is very high for a time period of 6 weeks... The compound hashrate would be much to high in the long run.   
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 42% return so far, over 564k NXT dividends!
« Reply #181 on: November 02, 2014, 09:34:45 pm »

Also a clarification on multiplication.
35% Multiplication will occur on the 5th, which is a wednesday - payout day is Friday the 7th.
The "multiplied shares" do not recieve a full payout, but only for the 2 days after the multiplication.

As I have said before for this asset, once multiplication occurs each holder will recieve 15% more assets as per their balance at 12:00:00 noon on November 3rd, 2014.  This 15% will be distributed AFTER the dividends are sent out on the 7th.  (this shouldn't really impact anyone, as most of the shares will be going up by 15% which should keep the profit/share pretty much the same).

The additional 35% gain for the final two days of the week will be distributed as per normal to all of the pre-multiplicaton shareholders.   This should also boost profitability of all the shares (once the 15% is sent out) by approximately 20%.
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 42% return so far, over 564k NXT dividends!
« Reply #182 on: November 02, 2014, 09:37:04 pm »


Maybe the business model is substainable for a couple years, i did not made any estimation. But not foreever, for sure. Eventually it have to slow down, especially since the exponential base 1.35 is very high for a time period of 6 weeks...

Oh, I completely agree.  Nowhere has he promised us that he will be able to maintain the constant 1.35x multiplication over a time interval as long as a couple of years.

When his products have a ROI of just over 8 weeks, haha, 80 weeks down the road will likely already have returned close to 1000% ROI. :P
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 42% return so far, over 564k NXT dividends!
« Reply #183 on: November 02, 2014, 09:43:27 pm »


I just wrote that this is not substainable:


Clearly that is your view.  I'm asking for someone (else) to chime in with an argument for how they can.

It is not my view. Math can prove that it can't.

It's like moore law with silicon chips, transistor can't be make it smaller and smaller forever.

Who is to say that he keeps redesigning the miners? From what I know, he is currently on his third generation of private hardware but just keeps bringing more hardware online.  #LTCGEAR knows about one data centre and he has mentioned via email bringing two additional data centres online in other geographic regions.

(and haha, I've offered to send him my resume twice to help him build a Canadian one but no response thus far)

Maybe the business model is substainable for a couple years, i did not made any estimation. But not foreever, for sure. Eventually it have to slow down, especially since the exponential base 1.35 is very high for a time period of 6 weeks... The compound hashrate would be much to high in the long run.

Nothing is forever mate.   BTC mining has been going on nearly 7 years now and those with the skillz are still rolling in it.  These timeframes are fine for many investors.
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 42% return so far, over 564k NXT dividends!
« Reply #184 on: November 02, 2014, 09:48:50 pm »

Also a clarification on multiplication.
35% Multiplication will occur on the 5th, which is a wednesday - payout day is Friday the 7th.
The "multiplied shares" do not recieve a full payout, but only for the 2 days after the multiplication.

As I have said before for this asset, once multiplication occurs each holder will recieve 15% more assets as per their balance at 12:00:00 noon on November 3rd, 2014.  This 15% will be distributed AFTER the dividends are sent out on the 7th.  (this shouldn't really impact anyone, as most of the shares will be going up by 15% which should keep the profit/share pretty much the same).

The additional 35% gain for the final two days of the week will be distributed as per normal to all of the pre-multiplicaton shareholders.   This should also boost profitability of all the shares (once the 15% is sent out) by approximately 20%.

So you're going to distribute the multiplication shares over the AE?  If so then cool.
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 42% return so far, over 564k NXT dividends!
« Reply #185 on: November 02, 2014, 09:51:11 pm »

Also a clarification on multiplication.
35% Multiplication will occur on the 5th, which is a wednesday - payout day is Friday the 7th.
The "multiplied shares" do not recieve a full payout, but only for the 2 days after the multiplication.

As I have said before for this asset, once multiplication occurs each holder will recieve 15% more assets as per their balance at 12:00:00 noon on November 3rd, 2014.  This 15% will be distributed AFTER the dividends are sent out on the 7th.  (this shouldn't really impact anyone, as most of the shares will be going up by 15% which should keep the profit/share pretty much the same).

The additional 35% gain for the final two days of the week will be distributed as per normal to all of the pre-multiplicaton shareholders.   This should also boost profitability of all the shares (once the 15% is sent out) by approximately 20%.

So you're going to distribute the multiplication shares over the AE?  If so then cool.
The 15% bonus won't be "sent over the AE" but will be transferred directly to each stakeholders account.
 (so the volume won't show up on secureae.com or anything)
Earlier in the thread we discussed how either way will really mean the same net profits per investor - this will just let people see their portfolio value go up by 15% (considering each HRLTCGEAR is technically worth 1 NXT)
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 42% return so far, over 564k NXT dividends!
« Reply #186 on: November 02, 2014, 10:28:28 pm »

9015 HRLTCGEAR sent to lopalcar for direct 0.5 BTC investment.
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41456 HRLTCGEAR sent to lopalcar for a second direct 2.3 BTC investment.

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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 42% return so far, over 564k NXT dividends!
« Reply #187 on: November 02, 2014, 10:45:54 pm »

800 MH more added at LTCGear
Taking us to just shy of 8 GH


I've already got another order pending payment for another 800 MH (after which it looks like the store is out of stock).
So keep on buying HRLTCGEAR!
Even when the store runs out of stock I am still able to secure additional packs, it just takes a bit more time because I have to reach out directly to one of the LTCgear operators.

BTW, anyone 'on the fence' about buying:
I encourage you to place buy orders at 0.9 NXT - I would love to increase the available liquidity (and give anyone who might need to free up some NXT an easy way to get out of HRLTCGEAR if they wanted as well as give you a chance to snap up some for cheap!)
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 42% return so far, over 564k NXT dividends!
« Reply #188 on: November 02, 2014, 10:56:16 pm »

Do you think you are one of his biggest client? Or we are still small?
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« Reply #189 on: November 02, 2014, 10:58:27 pm »

I encourage you to place buy orders at 0.9 NXT - I would love to increase the available liquidity (and give anyone who might need to free up some NXT an easy way to get out of HRLTCGEAR if they wanted as well as give you a chance to snap up some for cheap!)

You could take the reinvestment shares from the ask order. That would solve the liquidity problem. Can you do that?
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« Reply #190 on: November 02, 2014, 11:00:22 pm »

Do you think you are one of his biggest client? Or we are still small?
#LTCGEAR has one guy who has over $200,000 tied up in packs (over 50 GH!)
I will email Chris right now and ask him this actually, he's usually pretty transparent and good about getting back to me. :) I will actually link him to this thread and see what he says about it, haha.
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Re: [ANN] HRLTCGEAR - fixed price, 42% return so far, over 564k NXT dividends!
« Reply #191 on: November 03, 2014, 01:01:27 am »

The 15% bonus won't be "sent over the AE" but will be transferred directly to each stakeholders account.
 (so the volume won't show up on secureae.com or anything)

What? You aren't going to do an asset transfer?

Also, I headed the LTC difficulty just dropped, or is about to drop. Will LTCGear still give you the additional shares in that case?
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« Reply #192 on: November 03, 2014, 01:11:35 am »

The 15% bonus won't be "sent over the AE" but will be transferred directly to each stakeholders account.
 (so the volume won't show up on secureae.com or anything)

What? You aren't going to do an asset transfer?

Also, I headed the LTC difficulty just dropped, or is about to drop. Will LTCGear still give you the additional shares in that case?
Yes, they will.
And I meant I will do an asset transfer. :) That the shareholders won't have to purchase their extra shares on the AE, is all that i meant.
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« Reply #193 on: November 03, 2014, 02:03:24 pm »

Would like to place an order, but I wonder if I've missed the multiplication cutoff time.  Is it 12:00 noon PST or EST?
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« Reply #194 on: November 03, 2014, 05:14:53 pm »

Would like to place an order, but I wonder if I've missed the multiplication cutoff time.  Is it 12:00 noon PST or EST?

Anyone know what timezone pf operates on?
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« Reply #195 on: November 03, 2014, 05:44:35 pm »

Would like to place an order, but I wonder if I've missed the multiplication cutoff time.  Is it 12:00 noon PST or EST?

Anyone know what timezone pf operates on?

I think it will be noon on the blockchain explorer, so UTC.
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« Reply #196 on: November 03, 2014, 07:18:56 pm »

Thanks.  pf please confirm cutoff timezone so I can invest or not.
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« Reply #197 on: November 03, 2014, 07:37:24 pm »

Hi guys,
Cutoff hasn't occured yet, I still have another order for 800 MH that I'd like to be able to buy.  (I will probably announce the cutoff has occured as soon as I have enough funds to pay for that order).
I still have the order placed with LTCgear, just waiting to pay them for it.
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« Reply #198 on: November 03, 2014, 07:44:43 pm »

awesome!!!
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« Reply #199 on: November 04, 2014, 12:33:52 am »

pf please confirm cutoff timezone, so I can invest . 8)
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