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[blackyblack1]

I think you are backing the mythical Thai solar farm?

I heard they have a lot of sun and farms in Thailand. So I suppose they should have a lot of solar farms.

[jl777]

Sorry James, but I cannot agree. Also "Hero members" are failing with their assets, just because they are not doing what they have announced in their IPO post. Just for example "pf" spent diividends of hrnxtpool in ltcgear shares instead of buying hardware miner).

So, also the request directed to newbies to disclose the system of business to "trusted, long time members" is IMHO just a joke. Even every company "in real life" wouldn't let you know. Everyone is afraid of copycats.

I think everyone in NXT is responsible for himself/herself. Let them learn their lessons. If someone trusts an asset, let them invest. I really don't like that "ponzi ponzi scam scam scam" postings. Ask questions, if they are answered satis, buy the asset - otherwise don't do. That's quite simple and not a question of "hero" or "newbie".
 
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dhj.

Just because someone has a reputation, doesn't mean the asset is good, but it's at least a start. We know there are people who are continually starting new accounts and preying off new members by launching exciting looking assets, so a new account has become a warning sign. This is something that people new to the forum might not be aware of. (This isn't about elitism.) It is pretty bad (in my opinion) to let people fall into scam without saying anything when it's often 99%+ clear what is going on.

We want Nxt to be a good coin for others, and the asset exchange is a great feature of Nxt. Part of building this coin and this community is helping new people become part of this technology, whether that is telling them how to forge, how important a secure password is, why they have to be careful to check an asset ID, and that particular assets are obvious scams.

Many people might come to this forum with main experience of assets being wall street assets. They understand that the value of assets can fall as well as rise, but they mightn't understand the risk that the asset is a total sham.

Anyone is free to start their own asset, no one is trying to stop that, Nxt as a platform is available to all. But nxtforum is a private forum and I think established members have an obligation to warn newer members.

I was thinking the same thing and came up with the idea of a "signature warning" that the senior members can use. So when a new scam asset appears, we update the list in our sigs about "Likely scam assets: vultmining, autodiv, camels milk, solar farm..."

I was hoping all the trades of the scam assets were scammer's own churn, but apparently the easy money promises gets some real funds into these scams.

I am too busy to be following closely all these scams as they come up, but if there was a thread where I can easily get a signature to use, I would. hint,hint.

James

[jl777]

I think you are backing the mythical Thai solar farm?

I heard they have a lot of sun and farms in Thailand. So I suppose they should have a lot of solar farms.

you convinced me, I just bought 1000 hectares of solar farms in Thailiand

[whatnxt]

I think you are backing the mythical Thai solar farm?

I heard they have a lot of sun and farms in Thailand. So I suppose they should have a lot of solar farms.

you convinced me, I just bought 1000 hectares of solar farms in Thailiand

We would need to see some proof before we believed that 

[wings1987]

I think an update isn't too much to ask. If this is over just say so. The suspense is killing me.

Forgot my little smiley face at the end. Being sarcastic of course. I just assumed he would stick around a bit. Not  worth the effort for the little he made.

[Nxtblg]

I think you are backing the mythical Thai solar farm?

I heard they have a lot of sun and farms in Thailand. So I suppose they should have a lot of solar farms.

you convinced me, I just bought 1000 hectares of solar farms in Thailiand

We would need to see some proof before we believed that 

Nice one!

But to move back to the subject, I'm watching scammy or dodgy Assets in the hopes of picking up a behavior pattern. The downside is that it'll inevitably conflate scam Assets with ones that are just botched. But the upside is, a botched Asset loses you money just as surely as a scammy Asset.

Right now, I'm watching this one: https://nxtforum.org/assets-board/(ann)-autodiv-a-steady-stream-of-automatic-dividends-paid-daily-(1-2-5)/ The issuer, autodiv, has deposited more Nxt than he's paid out in dividends; the deposits came from Polo. He's also withdrawn the Nxt he collected from selling his Assets and ran them through a jitney account NXT-YWMZ-E76X-JS5Q-AHYWD before sending them back to Polo.

He started off by issuing the Asset AutoDiv, Asset ID 1434237137246193127 , which he stopped selling after seven days. After which, he sent the unsold units to the genesis account: i.e., burned them. Two days ago, he then issued AutoDiv3 whose Asset ID is 6924643464789677166 . Unlike the first, this one has an open-ended ICO.

This one will be interesting to watch. As I outlined, the net proceeds of his Asset sales (more or less) have been sent back to Poloniex. He doing so coheres with his story about his deposits coming from trading profits there. But it also coheres with him running a merry-go-round and using Polo to launder the mechanics of a you-know-what.

At this stage in the game, I honestly can't say. All I can say is that I myself am avoiding it except as an interested would-be auditor.

[blackyblack1]

At this stage in the game, I honestly can't say. All I can say is that I myself am avoiding it except as an interested would-be auditor.

What is the reason in auditing bullshit? Unknown guy offers you 3700% to 82000% APR without any proofs and links and you even bother to audit it?

[dhj1965]

So, dont use reasonable sounding words to try to establish that newbie issuers are just as good as established ones. I think you are backing the mythical Thai solar farm?

Oh no... I don't try to back "cell" in any kind - in that thread I have told my personal experience of Thai documents, behaviours and workmanship. I would do the same for everone who produce the same documents/pictutes/... It's up to everyone how they rate my opiion. I'm married with a thai wife for alot of years and spend alot of time in that country and I believe to understand how they think and act.. yes, I bought some shares . no more worth than a few stamps, it's just gambling.

dhj.


 

[dhj1965]

Using your logic, because there might be occasional failures even when avoiding newbie issuers, that newbie issuers are just as good?

I have never said this.

Occasional is not the right word when you have a look at "hero member assets" which hold LTCgear shares... A lot of heroes belive in Chris..

But it's simply wrong to say "99% newbie = fail" and "99% long time member != fail"

Remember, you have been a newbie as well, some years ago - and people have given you a chance...

dhj..

[dhj1965]

I heard they have a lot of sun and farms in Thailand. So I suppose they should have a lot of solar farms.

Yes, they have both . But that Nong Khai area, where no. 1 farm is located is not the preferred area for that kind of solar business... check wikipedia for that...

dhj.

[dhj1965]

you convinced me, I just bought 1000 hectares of solar farms in Thailiand

hahahahahaha... is this is the way you discuss as a hero member and "Mr nxt assets" ? ridiculous...

[jl777]

you convinced me, I just bought 1000 hectares of solar farms in Thailiand

hahahahahaha... is this is the way you discuss as a hero member and "Mr nxt assets" ? ridiculous...

If "ridiculous" is the message you received, then I succeeded. These camel milk solar farms are indeed ridiculous, just like vultmining and autodiv

[dhj1965]

If "ridiculous" is the message you received, then I succeeded. These camel milk solar farms are indeed ridiculous, just like vultmining and autodiv

No, you didn't succeed. I learned how to interpret "hero member" postings...

[jl777]

If "ridiculous" is the message you received, then I succeeded. These camel milk solar farms are indeed ridiculous, just like vultmining and autodiv

No, you didn't succeed. I learned how to interpret "hero member" postings...

you really think I post warnings about autodiv and vultmining because I feel they are competitive to SuperNET?
you are new here and the few posts are supporting the newbie assets...
maybe I am interpreting too

[dhj1965]

you really think I post warnings about autodiv and vultmining because I feel they are competitive to SuperNET?
you are new here and the few posts are supporting the newbie assets...
maybe I am interpreting too

I don't know where you think to read this...

A vult or autodiv will not be competetive, not now, not tomorrow or next month.

I'm not supporting anyone - I only want that everyone will have a reasonable chance. If someone produce information, I will give my opinion. I might be terribly wrong with my opinion. As I wrote before: Everyone is free to rate my opinion

But if you think that I'm a kind of sockpuppet - than I cannot help you...

[Nxtblg]

At this stage in the game, I honestly can't say. All I can say is that I myself am avoiding it except as an interested would-be auditor.

What is the reason in auditing bullshit? Unknown guy offers you 3700% to 82000% APR without any proofs and links and you even bother to audit it?

To learn how to audit properly?

[frohlocke]

At this stage in the game, I honestly can't say. All I can say is that I myself am avoiding it except as an interested would-be auditor.

What is the reason in auditing bullshit? Unknown guy offers you 3700% to 82000% APR without any proofs and links and you even bother to audit it?

To learn how to audit properly?

https://www.cfainstitute.org/Pages/index.aspx

[Juniour]

Right now, I'm watching this one: https://nxtforum.org/assets-board/(ann)-autodiv-a-steady-stream-of-automatic-dividends-paid-daily-(1-2-5)/ The issuer, autodiv, has deposited more Nxt than he's paid out in dividends; the deposits came from Polo. He's also withdrawn the Nxt he collected from selling his Assets and ran them through a jitney account NXT-YWMZ-E76X-JS5Q-AHYWD before sending them back to Polo.

autodiv is a trustworthy guy!

NXT-Y99J-H8G9-Q8TV-CPLWH thats my account! when will you send through the 1000 autodiv! cant believe i won!


awesome asset!

Do your own conclusions.

[autodiv]

Right now, I'm watching this one: https://nxtforum.org/assets-board/(ann)-autodiv-a-steady-stream-of-automatic-dividends-paid-daily-(1-2-5)/ The issuer, autodiv, has deposited more Nxt than he's paid out in dividends; the deposits came from Polo. He's also withdrawn the Nxt he collected from selling his Assets and ran them through a jitney account NXT-YWMZ-E76X-JS5Q-AHYWD before sending them back to Polo.

autodiv is a trustworthy guy!

NXT-Y99J-H8G9-Q8TV-CPLWH thats my account! when will you send through the 1000 autodiv! cant believe i won!


awesome asset!

Do your own conclusions.

For the record those comments by 'Vultmining' were both directed at me after he already scammed and was not planning on returning. I assume that was not really his account at all otherwise he would have dumped already like he did with his own asset. There is no record of that account selling so I really really doubt that this guy owned the account.

[autodiv]

you convinced me, I just bought 1000 hectares of solar farms in Thailiand

hahahahahaha... is this is the way you discuss as a hero member and "Mr nxt assets" ? ridiculous...

If "ridiculous" is the message you received, then I succeeded. These camel milk solar farms are indeed ridiculous, just like vultmining and autodiv

Not as ridiculous as your 'Supernothing' scam assets eh Jimbo?