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Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
« Reply #220 on: October 24, 2014, 05:16:46 pm »

If you dont want to see these and prefer to think that others 'have agendas' for pointing out RED FLAGS then at least you should do your own due diligence and ask Heather yourself.

I don't know if you're talking to me specifically, but I thought I'd respond to this point in case: I have.  I've had a lot of conversations with her.  I like her.  That's why I invested in ACH - I invest in people, not businesses.  to me, businesses are a concept abstracted from the people that compose them.  It's my faith in the people involved in the business that compels me to invest.

I'd also like to point out that your red flags aren't necessarily my red flags.  You're simply more vocal about pointing out your red flags.  Your investment style and mine are quite different.  It doesn't mean one is "better" than the other.  But it does mean that not everybody will agree with what you consider a red flag - It's more appropriate to say that "this is a red flag to me" than assuming your red flags are universally applicable to any other investor's style.  So, it doesn't mean the community's head is in the sand - it may simply mean that there are many investors who don't agree with your style.  That's all.
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Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
« Reply #221 on: October 24, 2014, 05:24:28 pm »

I went to the forums here
https://forum.altcoinherald.com/

I see no threads on her issued Asset. Where is the ANN there? Is there even a conversation?

And in regards to POLO..

24-hour Volume: 35.55114147 BTC / 572454.66669095 ACH


572k shares traded!!!  IN ONE DAY!!

this is the top ten accounts on the AE
Asset Issuer                            4'167'373   83.35%
Blue Machine                           147'714   2.95% (Account C)
NXT-FZX8-TG5C-65HL-59J5V   132'621   2.65%  (Account B)
NXT-R8SQ-TUEM-DTHQ-7ATA3   120'568   2.41% (Poloniex Deposit Account, which we cannot tell if it is all one persons, or the total wallet)
NXT-C4SZ-HDS5-HG8X-6LFLJ   94'116   1.88% ( OH LOOK>>>>  Its another Fake buying account)
Same pattern of big deposits from late September to Early November, Same pattern of buying nothing but ACH. That brings the hidden ACH in sock puppet accounts to 400K
Check recieved funds http://nxtreporting.com/?a=NXT-C4SZ-HDS5-HG8X-6LFLJ&c=USD
NXT-GLK7-5C6C-5UDM-2EKZL   39'650   0.79%
NXT-KUQJ-YCEN-5KL4-B948S   25'000   0.50%
NXT-8DUK-H4NF-YSJW-EX8GV   21'784   0.44%
NXT-HG8Z-PZ5L-KD6T-HJ8FG   20'000   0.40%

So if 4.1M is in the issuer, and 400k is in the sock puppets, that 4.5M controlled by ACH directly.
Now we have more than the total outstanding shares trading in one day.  RED FLAG


OR MAYBE the 125K in the Polo account is just being churned around. BUY BUY BUY SELL SELL SELL BUY BUY BUY.

I wonder if anyone can get the mods from Poloniex in on this.  ;)
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Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
« Reply #222 on: October 24, 2014, 05:28:03 pm »

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Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
« Reply #223 on: October 24, 2014, 05:36:16 pm »

I wish I could post a "rolling eyes" meme, but I'm on my phone. Lol
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Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
« Reply #224 on: October 24, 2014, 05:38:56 pm »

I wish I could post a "rolling eyes" meme, but I'm on my phone. Lol

just put your head back in the cool dark sand and stop reading this thread then.
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Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
« Reply #225 on: October 24, 2014, 05:46:08 pm »

I started to find the shares going to NXT-R8SQ-TUEM-DTHQ-7ATA3 at Polo.

Next I will group those all nice and tight for everyone to see.
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Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
« Reply #226 on: October 24, 2014, 05:54:24 pm »

Naw, I'll keep watching to see what your sleuthing turns up. ::needs a soda and popcorn::
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Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
« Reply #227 on: October 24, 2014, 05:58:16 pm »

I hope it's less scary than the ark of the covenant but more exciting than geraldos vault.
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Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
« Reply #228 on: October 24, 2014, 06:11:38 pm »

Lol If you find the Ark, make sure to read the instruction manual before opening it! Lol
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Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
« Reply #229 on: October 24, 2014, 07:28:11 pm »


PS  I'm very curious as to what set off this attack on Altcoin Herald.  They've been set upon in the past couple weeks.  It's like some members of the community are holding a grudge against them.  Could it be because they are a competitor to SuperNET News, since they are one of two cryptomedia outlet businesses on the NXT AE?  I certainly hope this isn't some form of corporate sabotage or a personal vendetta by influential individuals...That gives NXT AE a bad rep, and pushes new business away.

Skyy the way you have stated this creates an implication and as NXTinspect have posted on this topic I will respond to it.

On behalf of NXTinspect I am going to respond that our work is independent and based on concerns raised in the community and completely unbiased, these asset movements and volumes for ACH are unusual and a valid item to bring to peoples attention.

NXTinspect have not said ACH is a scam we are simply advising that some of the market trading statistics for this asset should be viewed with caution.

Simply posting some information about asset trading is not an attack on ACH and frankly we have not done this for another asset because we have yet to find these patterns for any other AE asset, and if we do we will be asking similar questions in their threads too.
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Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
« Reply #230 on: October 24, 2014, 08:13:12 pm »

Nice official response from NXTinspect but I don't think I specifically called you guys out. I don't even know if Jef or Whale is acting in an official capacity or not when they were posting in this thread. Thanks for posting NXTinspect's stance, I guess?
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Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
« Reply #231 on: October 24, 2014, 11:20:37 pm »

Nice official response from NXTinspect but I don't think I specifically called you guys out. I don't even know if Jef or Whale is acting in an official capacity or not when they were posting in this thread. Thanks for posting NXTinspect's stance, I guess?

I don't think a decentralized community needs an official response.  I am a community member who is concerned about the trading patterns that I have seen.
I am also an Alpha enough person that I will not stand for these actions, to the extent that I have joined up with two like minded individuals in Chanc3r and Whale, and formed a business to help the community clarify situations.
We are not on a witch hunt, we are looking for clarification. If ACH were to reply, with an explanation, I will be the first to walk through every transaction with them, and understand what they did.
I would also proffer, free of charge, helpful suggestions and seek to make this web clearer.

If I voice an opinion on twitter, or the forums, or in skype, it can be assumed that is my personal opinion. If that opinion involves asset values, actions, or maneuvers, good or bad, the members of the community would be right to assume that my personal opinion and my NXTinspect opinion might concur.

But in the case of these accounts, I expressed questions, and requested clarity.
I did not say scam. I did not say fake.

Skky, I know I have expressed more sincere opinions about ACH to you in person, but that was our personal chat. Not a forum post. So take what I present, as its presented please.


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Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
« Reply #232 on: October 24, 2014, 11:23:03 pm »

And on the subject of paying dividends to shares still held, also remember that your "friend" Heather has been paying out dividends to the 500k or 600K shares that she secretly owns too.

So before she was keeping 86%, now its more like 90%.

Tomorrow I'm going to research this backwards, and find out how many shares are actually owned by INVESTORS, not sockpuppets.
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Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
« Reply #233 on: October 24, 2014, 11:23:54 pm »

I don't even understand the motivation behind this. if they fake 35 BTC of trading volume each day, they will lose 35*2*0,002BTC per day = 0.14 BTC lost due to trading fees.

Strange

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Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
« Reply #234 on: October 24, 2014, 11:31:57 pm »

If I voice an opinion on twitter, or the forums, or in skype, it can be assumed that is my personal opinion. If that opinion involves asset values, actions, or maneuvers, good or bad, the members of the community would be right to assume that my personal opinion and my NXTinspect opinion might concur.

But in the case of these accounts, I expressed questions, and requested clarity.
I did not say scam. I did not say fake.

Skky, I know I have expressed more sincere opinions about ACH to you in person, but that was our personal chat. Not a forum post. So take what I present, as its presented please.

Okay, that makes sense.  It muddied things for me a bit when Chanc3r replied in an official capacity since, in his words, "NXTinspect has posted on this topic."  But I never got the impression that you or Whale was posting an official capacity.  So, now I'm confused about Chanc3r's response. :/

I never said that you specifically said "scam" or "fake".  There was at least one other individual in this thread that posted "fraud", someone posted "thievery", something along those lines...there were many people in this thread who began making accusations against ACH.  That's why my post about my impression that "ACH is being set upon" and I wonder why.  It seems like a lot of interest has been taken in them, and a lot of effort has been spent on scrutinizing their activity.  Seems unwarranted to me, when that effort could be spent on building up one's own work rather than tearing down somebody else's work.
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Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
« Reply #235 on: October 24, 2014, 11:32:19 pm »

I don't even understand the motivation behind this. if they fake 35 BTC of trading volume each day, they will lose 35*2*0,002BTC per day = 0.14 BTC lost due to trading fees.

Strange

Lots of strange activity around here...
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Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
« Reply #236 on: October 24, 2014, 11:33:18 pm »

And on the subject of paying dividends to shares still held, also remember that your "friend" Heather has been paying out dividends to the 500k or 600K shares that she secretly owns too.

You don't have to put the quotes around friend.  I really do consider her a friend.
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Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
« Reply #237 on: October 24, 2014, 11:34:49 pm »

You might consider her a friend but I wonder if she does the same for you
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Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
« Reply #238 on: October 24, 2014, 11:36:23 pm »

I don't even understand the motivation behind this. if they fake 35 BTC of trading volume each day, they will lose 35*2*0,002BTC per day = 0.14 BTC lost due to trading fees.

Strange
Yeah at least the 500-1000nxt transactions pay the forgers.
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Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
« Reply #239 on: October 24, 2014, 11:37:50 pm »

You might consider her a friend but I wonder if she does the same for you

Sure seems that way.  One could ask that about anybody though?
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