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Title: ACH Next Dividend - Jan. 31, 2015
Post by: altcoinherald on September 02, 2014, 08:48:08 pm
Hello there and happy holidays!

The next ACH dividend payout will be issued on Jan. 31, 2015 .. and paid bi-weekly afterwards.

For more information on the project, please visit: https://alth.co/rDPPI (https://alth.co/rDPPI) for updated information.

Thanks for your continued interest and have a great day!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on September 03, 2014, 02:47:33 am
Hi, Heather!  Let me be the first to say, thank you for choosing the NXT platform for AltCoinHerald. :)  And welcome to the community!

I have a question - the traffic numbers that you cited, are those per day?

Btw, please don't get discouraged if your IPO doesn't take off over the next couple weeks.  With the Super Network IPO looming this weekend, most people are hodling their NXT, and willing likely be investing in that starting this weekend and over the course of the Super Network IPO.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 03, 2014, 11:01:26 am
Thanks so much for your kind words CobaltSky!

We're excited to use this platform - we love that it's decentralized and it's backed by so many great people.

As for your question about our traffic, if you aren't familiar with Alexa - they pretty much collect data and provide traffic stats and other demographic information on site visitors.

Our site is "verified" with them, meaning the traffic stats they provide are confirmed (we run their tracking code) instead of being 'estimated' like a lot of other sites.

This is a factor that many advertisers take into consideration before running campaigns, so the higher our Alexa ranking, the better! (In fact our ranking increased since my original post - US Certified Traffic of 17,130; Certified Global Traffic of 89,104)

Another initiative that I might not have mentioned in depth is that we're going to use our site to help raise awareness about NXT and the NXT platform, so our success can spill over into the NXT community as well.

Thanks again for your interest and consideration - I know there are other opportunities out there, but we feel our unique offering is a win/win situation because we're already established and profitable - plus we have the ability to reach a huge audience across the Globe about anything and everything related to Cryptocurrency.

Kindly let me know if I can help with anything else - I'm always happy to help!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on September 03, 2014, 12:55:55 pm
I bought 1000 shares. :) What kind of coverage do you have planned for the UNITY ipo? Aka supernetwork
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 03, 2014, 12:56:25 pm
I forgot to add that we have our entire plan laid out at our site, but I can't post links..

You should be able to find it by doing a Google search using this phrase: "altcoinherald.com ach wiki"

..Sorry to double post!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on September 03, 2014, 12:57:18 pm
You might find people will be hesitant to believe your nxt articles are unbiased/propaganda since you now have a vested interest in the nxt platform. How do you plan to counter that?
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on September 03, 2014, 12:58:20 pm
No worries. I double post all he time. As long as you're continuing the conversation, no one complains. ;)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 03, 2014, 01:02:14 pm
Thanks for your investment and voicing your concerns.

We actually cover a lot of topics at our site, so we don't just focus on one or two subjects. They are all in our body of work.

To be honest, we haven't had a chance to look into the Super Network IPO, but if time permits we'll be sure to check it out..
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: qbd1313 on September 03, 2014, 01:57:10 pm
Now there are many scam in the AE,so how we can know that you can represent Altcoin Herald?

you should post this in your official twitter and post this in Altcoin Herald.

if you cannt do this,sorry I will say it is a scam..
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: qbd1313 on September 03, 2014, 02:01:02 pm
Hi
cobaltskky,my friend
We should keep the process,we dont know if it is a scam,right?
first,We need some official statement.

dont do the thing like Salsacz

if you dont know if it is a scam,don't promote and recommend the assets

thx
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: qbd1313 on September 03, 2014, 02:08:03 pm
Waiting for a reply, we will know if it is a scam soon

I say again - AE is not the Liar's paradise。。
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on September 03, 2014, 02:11:38 pm
An article about the ipo is on the altcoin Herald website. I did enough due diligence for my own security. I have not recommended this asset to anybody else.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: qbd1313 on September 03, 2014, 02:16:10 pm
An article about the ipo is on the altcoin Herald website. I did enough due diligence for my own security. I have not recommended this asset to anybody else.

I see,if you can post the link。。。
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 03, 2014, 02:17:55 pm
Hello qbd1313~

Thanks for your interest and voicing your concerns, we can certainly understand your position.

If you check out our Twitter: @altcoinherald you'll find several references to our offering.

It's also been announced at the site - You'll need to remove the spaces in the URL's - Sorry for that!

https://altcoinherald. com/ach-now-available-nxt-secure-asset-exchange/

The outline of our plan can be found here:

https://altcoinherald. com/wiki/index.php?title=ACH

Thanks for your consideration and I hope this helps answer all of your questions!

Best Regards,
Heather
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: qbd1313 on September 03, 2014, 02:18:32 pm
I suggest the issuer of the AE,the best you can issue a statement in your official website and official twitter

thx
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: qbd1313 on September 03, 2014, 02:20:25 pm
Hello qbd1313~

Thanks for your interest and voicing your concerns, we can certainly understand your position.

If you check out our Twitter: @altcoinherald you'll find several references to our offering.

It's also been announced at the site - You'll need to remove the spaces in the URL's - Sorry for that!

https://altcoinherald. com/ach-now-available-nxt-secure-asset-exchange/

The outline of our plan can be found here:

https://altcoinherald. com/wiki/index.php?title=ACH

Thanks for your consideration and I hope this helps answer all of your questions!

Best Regards,
Heather

Hi altcoinherald
I see
welcome my friend

"I'm just regular course of official duties",too much scam on AE

thx



Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 03, 2014, 02:25:10 pm
Thanks for your warm welcome and your consideration - we appreciate it.

Due diligence is one of the most important things that one can do, no doubt about it!

Thanks again and kindly let me know if I can help with anything else. Cheers!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 05, 2014, 12:43:17 pm
We're very excited to have our first 14 investors!

Thanks again CobaltSkky for being one of our pioneer investors!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on September 05, 2014, 01:48:35 pm
We're very excited to have our first 14 investors!

Thanks again CobaltSkky for being one of our pioneer investors!

Certainly, Heather. :)  Feel free to refer to me as Skky or Cadence. :)

I'm buying a little more here and there until I see how the asset performs. ;)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 06, 2014, 01:19:39 pm
Thanks again for your support of the project Candace!

With the busier Internet season here we've already had a dramatic upswing in our traffic.

According to Alexa Certified Stats we're now ranked the 16,975th most popular website in the United States - Globally we're ranked at 86,613... and with more hard work and additional marketing, this number will only get better over time.

We'd love to connect with you on social media if you want to provide your profiles.. kindly let me know!

Best Regards,
Heather

Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on September 06, 2014, 01:38:42 pm
Thanks again for your support of the project Candace!

With the busier Internet season here we've already had a dramatic upswing in our traffic.

According to Alexa Certified Stats we're now ranked the 16,975th most popular website in the United States - Globally we're ranked at 86,613... and with more hard work and additional marketing, this number will only get better over time.

We'd love to connect with you on social media if you want to provide your profiles.. kindly let me know!

Best Regards,
Heather

Actually, my name is Cadence. :)  It happens to me all the time, so please don't feel bad!

My twitter is https://twitter.com/cobaltskky
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 06, 2014, 01:52:35 pm
Sorry about that!

*I think I need another cup of coffee*

What a unique and beautiful name. Not one you hear very often. Thanks for your Twitter profile - just followed you and looking forward to your tweets doll!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: colin012 on September 06, 2014, 09:55:56 pm
Might buy some. I can also help get you freelance articles if you wish.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on September 06, 2014, 11:20:02 pm
Sorry about that!

*I think I need another cup of coffee*

What a unique and beautiful name. Not one you hear very often. Thanks for your Twitter profile - just followed you and looking forward to your tweets doll!

Maybe that's what all the people who goof up on my name need - another cup of coffee.  If that's the case, I should walk around with one prepared! lol

Thanks, hun! :)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on September 07, 2014, 01:48:43 pm
Very nice article on Unity here:

https://altcoinherald.com/supernet-seeks-unify-warring-altcoin-states/

Heather, will you please pass along to the writers that they did a great, even-handed job with it? :)

And to everybody else: let's get a twitter swarm going on this one! :D
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 07, 2014, 02:36:25 pm
Might buy some. I can also help get you freelance articles if you wish.

Good morning Colin!

Thanks for your consideration and for your kind offer.

Developing out our network of site contributors is definitely part of our ongoing plan.

We'll be sure to get in contact with you once we're ready to move ahead with it!

The more great people we have on board, the better!

Thanks again and kindly let me know if I can help with anything - it's always my pleasure!

Best Regards,
Heather

Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 07, 2014, 03:51:00 pm
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Maybe that's what all the people who goof up on my name need - another cup of coffee.  If that's the case, I should walk around with one prepared! lol

Heck yeah! Make sure you have plenty of Stevia and some creamer to go along with it!

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Very nice article on Unity here:

https://altcoinherald.com/supernet-seeks-unify-warring-altcoin-states/

Heather, will you please pass along to the writers that they did a great, even-handed job with it? :)

And to everybody else: let's get a twitter swarm going on this one! :D

Thanks for your kind words - I'll make sure to pass them along!

We've had a great response to the article already,  please share freely wherever you feel appropriate!

Cheers and thanks again!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 07, 2014, 04:13:14 pm
ANN Thread has been updated with information on our development timeframe.

Developments include:

Installed Self Serve Banner Ad System
Limited social campaigns started to increase Facebook and Twitter follower counts.
Altcoin Herald Toolkit Established - includes tools.altcoinherald.com subdomain. Choice and installation of Laravel framework. SSL Certificate installed. Coding of framework underway.

..more to come!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 08, 2014, 02:29:54 pm
We're excited that we've sold a few hundred short of 15,000 of our assets.

There are at least 2 confirmed investors that were introduced to the NXT platform directly because of our offering. Hopefully we'll be bringing in many more!

Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 09, 2014, 11:37:03 am
We're super excited to announce that AltCoinHerald is now one of the top 15,000 websites in the United States and we're doing pretty good globally, too!

(http://i.imgur.com/aIhxU9H.png)

Thanks again to all of our asset holders - we appreciate your support as we continue on all of our initiatives!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: pf on September 09, 2014, 03:36:39 pm
Do you guys already run a Google adwords campaign, and if so is the revenue generated from that distributed to the AE shareholders as part of a dividend?

I would think you would already be generating considerable revenue from a good AdWords campaign being one of the top 15,000 sites in the US...
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 09, 2014, 04:50:31 pm
Hello there and thanks for your feedback - we appreciate it!

No, we aren't currently running Google Adsense on the site, but we aren't ruling the option out for sometime in the future - if needed.

Right now we're focusing on selling direct ads and providing services to the Crypto community without using a third party ad network in order to do so. In most cases, when you eliminate the middleman, you earn more overall.

As well as direct offers to advertisers, we're building out our mailing list and working on free and subscription based tool sets for users - which will also help generate revenues.

I hope that this helps answer your question and thanks again for your feedback and consideration.

Kindly let me know if I can help with anything else  - I'm always happy to help!

Best Regards,
Heather
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: curio on September 09, 2014, 05:47:25 pm
We're excited that we've sold a few hundred short of 15,000 of our assets.

There are at least 2 confirmed investors that were introduced to the NXT platform directly because of our offering. Hopefully we'll be bringing in many more!

I am one of them :)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 09, 2014, 06:32:39 pm
We're excited that we've sold a few hundred short of 15,000 of our assets.

There are at least 2 confirmed investors that were introduced to the NXT platform directly because of our offering. Hopefully we'll be bringing in many more!

I am one of them :)


It's great to see you here.. thanks for saying 'hello!'
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: devphp on September 09, 2014, 07:11:44 pm
Media business to diversify one's crypto portfolio? Sounds like a not so bad idea ;)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 09, 2014, 07:30:03 pm
Media business to diversify one's crypto portfolio? Sounds like a not so bad idea ;)

Our aim is to be a positive force in the community.. along with all of our other goals!  ;D

Thanks for your kind words and your consideration!

Best Regards,
Heather
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 09, 2014, 09:43:06 pm
New Development!

We have added a node for NXT for anyone that would like to use it:

https://nxt1.achnodes.com:7876/index.html (https://nxt1.achnodes.com:7876/index.html)

Enjoy!  ;D
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on September 09, 2014, 09:45:51 pm
New Development!

We have added a node for NXT for anyone that would like to use it:

https://nxt1.achnodes.com:7876/index.html (https://nxt1.achnodes.com:7876/index.html)

Enjoy!  ;D

Neato!  Normally not recommended for a user to send their password to a node that they don't control.  It's up to them if they want to use ACH's since you're kinda a trusted entity. ;)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 09, 2014, 09:49:50 pm
Thanks for the tip.. we just finished setting it up, so we'll be sure to 'dot all the 'I's' and cross all the 'T's.'

Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: pf on September 10, 2014, 04:27:52 am
Hello there and thanks for your feedback - we appreciate it!

No, we aren't currently running Google Adsense on the site, but we aren't ruling the option out for sometime in the future - if needed.

Right now we're focusing on selling direct ads and providing services to the Crypto community without using a third party ad network in order to do so. In most cases, when you eliminate the middleman, you earn more overall.

As well as direct offers to advertisers, we're building out our mailing list and working on free and subscription based tool sets for users - which will also help generate revenues.

I hope that this helps answer your question and thanks again for your feedback and consideration.

Kindly let me know if I can help with anything else  - I'm always happy to help!

Best Regards,
Heather
Approximately how many hits per day / month do you recieve? How many unique visitors?
I noticed that it seems that your site doesn't leverage cloudflare - have you considered using them not only for analytics for for content distribution as well? They are extremely cheap (only $20/month gets you a 'professional' membership)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 10, 2014, 11:10:06 am
Hello there and thanks for your feedback - we appreciate it!

No, we aren't currently running Google Adsense on the site, but we aren't ruling the option out for sometime in the future - if needed.

Right now we're focusing on selling direct ads and providing services to the Crypto community without using a third party ad network in order to do so. In most cases, when you eliminate the middleman, you earn more overall.

As well as direct offers to advertisers, we're building out our mailing list and working on free and subscription based tool sets for users - which will also help generate revenues.

I hope that this helps answer your question and thanks again for your feedback and consideration.

Kindly let me know if I can help with anything else  - I'm always happy to help!

Best Regards,
Heather
Approximately how many hits per day / month do you recieve? How many unique visitors?
I noticed that it seems that your site doesn't leverage cloudflare - have you considered using them not only for analytics for for content distribution as well? They are extremely cheap (only $20/month gets you a 'professional' membership)

Please see the Screenshot below for more details on our traffic stats, as per our Alexa Certified stats.

(http://i.imgur.com/yQXSWXG.png)

Thanks for your suggestion about Cloudflare.

Currently we're using a number of custom configurations for site performance and internal stat keeping (along with Alexa), but we won't rule out using Cloudflare - or a similar service - sometime down the road, if needed.

I hope this helps answer your questions!

Thanks again for your feedback and consideration - we appreciate it!

(We moved ahead of 527 websites Globally and 457 US based sites since yesterday!)



Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on September 10, 2014, 01:06:18 pm
I'm spamming your articles on my Twitter feed. Maybe that's helping? ;)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 10, 2014, 01:59:09 pm
I'm spamming your articles on my Twitter feed. Maybe that's helping? ;)

Could be! Everything helps for sure.. we've had a giant influx of traffic from a few of our social channels in the last couple days - which is a bonus..

In addition to our organic efforts, we've started a couple limited advertising campaigns which has helped contribute.

We had a big day on the SAE yesterday.. thanks for being part, Cadence!   ;)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on September 10, 2014, 04:07:58 pm
We had a big day on the SAE yesterday.. thanks for being part, Cadence!   ;)

Glad to hear it!  When do you expect to start paying out dividends on the assets?
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 10, 2014, 04:36:58 pm
We had a big day on the SAE yesterday.. thanks for being part, Cadence!   ;)

Glad to hear it!  When do you expect to start paying out dividends on the assets?

November 1, 2014 will be the first dividend payout - giving people enough time to buy in.

Dividends will be calculated in a proportional manner. I.E. total shares offered/your shares x 40% of revenue.

The entire layout of our plan can be found here: https://altcoinherald.com/wiki/index.php?title=ACH (https://altcoinherald.com/wiki/index.php?title=ACH)

Kindly let me know if you have any other questions - I'm always happy to help!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 12, 2014, 12:49:19 pm
Updates:

Beta Tool Site is now functioning.

Front end site up.
SSL Certificate is installed.
Login Authentication/Password Reset Capabilities functioning.

https://tools.altcoinherald.com/home (https://tools.altcoinherald.com/home)

Secured a new major advertiser this week, as well.

New content, marketing and development efforts are ongoing..

Thanks to all for backing our project!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on September 12, 2014, 04:37:15 pm
Great news!  I'm not sure how much ACH I have now...I keep adding more here and there. :)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 12, 2014, 05:43:30 pm
Great news!  I'm not sure how much ACH I have now...I keep adding more here and there. :)

Thanks for that Cadence! We appreciate the support..

We're excited to have so many good things going on right now and to be part of the NXT community..
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 13, 2014, 12:16:10 pm
A recent snapshot of our Alexa Certified Traffic stats.

(http://i.imgur.com/V2gxQA8.png)

Since the last time I posted our Alexa stats, we've moved ahead of 951 sites Globally.
In the United Stated we've passed another 296 sites.

In addition to a brand new advertiser added this week, one of our existing advertisers renewed their ad - which is always great for business!

Have a great Saturday!

Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: pf on September 13, 2014, 04:13:27 pm
How much do ads cost and have you thought about talking to the NXT marketing committee about running a series of NXT ads?
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 13, 2014, 04:49:05 pm
How much do ads cost and have you thought about talking to the NXT marketing committee about running a series of NXT ads?

Hello PF~

Thanks for your comment and your suggestions.

The cost for banner advertising varies depending on ad placement and duration of the run. More info here: https://alth.co/225xo (https://alth.co/225xo)

I have not yet had the chance to connect with the NXT marketing committee, but I'll be sure to get in contact with them.  ;)

Thanks again for your feedback and consideration!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on September 13, 2014, 04:59:42 pm
How much do ads cost and have you thought about talking to the NXT marketing committee about running a series of NXT ads?

You thinking maybe advertising Hashrate? ;)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: pf on September 13, 2014, 08:50:42 pm
Indeed I am.

Do you provide any kind of advertising metrics? Like do you track the clickthrough rate or anything like that, on any of your previous ads?
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 13, 2014, 09:01:57 pm
Indeed I am.

Do you provide any kind of advertising metrics? Like do you track the clickthrough rate or anything like that, on any of your previous ads?

Thanks for your interest.. please send an Email to herald @ altcoinherald.com (remove spaces) and we'll be happy to provide the information that you're looking for!

Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 14, 2014, 11:23:01 am
Our popularity continues to grow!

(http://i.imgur.com/fFBUSbN.png)

Since the last time I posted stats we've moved ahead of:

461 sites Globally.
445 sites in the United States.

Work on toolkit (free-mium and subscription models will both be available) continues.

Marketing efforts and content creation is ongoing..

Thanks for checking in and special thanks to everyone for backing the ACH project!  ;D

We appreciate you!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on September 14, 2014, 12:56:09 pm
I appreciate the continued updates, Heather! :D  Does it appear that the upward velocity of your views has increased since your asset release on the Nxt platform?  I'm wondering what kind of impact that's had on your mindshare presence.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 14, 2014, 07:32:11 pm
I appreciate the continued updates, Heather! :D  Does it appear that the upward velocity of your views has increased since your asset release on the Nxt platform?  I'm wondering what kind of impact that's had on your mindshare presence.

 ;)

I'm sure that being listed on the SAE hasn't hurt!

We'll make a note of monitoring traffic associated with NXT/SAE going forward and be sure to keep you updated..

Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 15, 2014, 11:41:08 am
More progress!

(http://i.imgur.com/BiRKbW2.png)

We've moved ahead of 1,323 other sites Globally!
... and another 396 sites based in the United States!

Thanks for checking in - it's back to business!  ;)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: curio on September 15, 2014, 07:20:12 pm
keep up the good work! :)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 16, 2014, 10:47:11 am
keep up the good work! :)

Thanks so much for your kind words!

As always, work continues on the project and everything is looking green!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 16, 2014, 02:06:02 pm
Only 20 more transactions to go to reach our first 100!

Thanks to everyone that is backing our project on the NXT platform to raise awareness about Cryptocurrencies - including NXT!

You guys are great!

On another note, ACH continues to move up in Alexa..

(http://i.imgur.com/9No8Xug.png)

Globally we surpassed 188 sites since yesterday.
In the United States we've surpassed another 347 sites.

..and just a reminder - our first dividend payments will be made on November 1, 2014 for the period of October 1st - 15th.

Dividends will be paid out every 2 weeks.

(Complete details on our SA can be found in my signature link)

Thanks again to all!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: colin012 on September 20, 2014, 04:45:04 pm
Hey, just wondering how things are going for the folks of Altcoin Herald.  :)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on September 21, 2014, 01:05:07 am
Hey, just wondering how things are going for the folks of Altcoin Herald.  :)

I think Heather may be taking a break for a bit.  She was on here a lot the past two weeks.  She hasn't responded to a PM yet - I'm sure she will when she gets back on. :)

BTW, looking at some of my asset holdings, and the incredible ideas on the Nxt AE, I'm wondering if Altcoin Herald could do an "asset of the week" feature on businesses available on decentralized asset exchanges.  Not sure what other platforms have asset exchanges, but in the interest of objective journalism, it would be best to feature assets on other exchanges as well. :)  I think there's a ton of value in our assets, and investors would certainly be interested, it's just that the media coverage has been poor.  In order to grow the Nxt Platform, we need to bring those people into the fold by enticing them in with our talent capital.  Articles on AltcoinHerald(that are super easily re-tweetable) would go a long way to help with that.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on September 21, 2014, 04:07:43 am
I was chatting with JefDiesel about how to add value to end-users for the Nxt platform, and altcoinherald came up...I'm wondering if you have any plans to utilize the Nxt Marketplace to sell ad space, sponsorships, or other services to your clientele?
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 21, 2014, 12:55:53 pm
Hello there and thanks for your posts.

Everything is going according to plan.. the last few days we focused on outreach and talking with potential new advertisers for the site.

We've also dramatically increased our social reach and work continues on the tool set.

Thanks for the suggestions, Cadence. We will definitely look into offering these services via that NXT marketplace, since we're involved with the eco-system and it would be a natural 'fit.'



Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 23, 2014, 02:04:49 pm
Hello there!

Just a quick update on progress.

We've exceeded our first 100 Asset Sales - Thanks everyone so far for your support!

The toolkit's Front end is up and complete with an SSL connection. Here's a screenshot:

(https://altcoinherald.com/wiki/images/6/64/Achpreview.jpg)

It's currently in closed beta while functionality is being programmed.

We also have our first dividend payment scheduled to take place on November 1, 2014.

This payout will be based on asset holders/holdings on record as of October 15, 2014. (We wanted to give everyone ample time to acquire ACH - since we knew there were other larger projects launching at the same time we announced ours.)

Thanks again for your consideration - we appreciate it!

Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on September 23, 2014, 04:18:16 pm
Nicely!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: pf on September 23, 2014, 07:29:06 pm
Hello there!

Just a quick update on progress.

We've exceeded our first 100 Asset Sales - Thanks everyone so far for your support!

The toolkit's Front end is up and complete with an SSL connection. Here's a screenshot:

(https://altcoinherald.com/wiki/images/6/64/Achpreview.jpg)

It's currently in closed beta while functionality is being programmed.

We also have our first dividend payment scheduled to take place on November 1, 2014.

This payout will be based on asset holders/holdings on record as of October 15, 2014. (We wanted to give everyone ample time to acquire ACH - since we knew there were other larger projects launching at the same time we announced ours.)

Thanks again for your consideration - we appreciate it!

Do you offer a trial membership of this 'ACH Toolkit'?
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 23, 2014, 07:59:15 pm
Thanks for your kind words Cadence!

PF - Right now the toolset is still under development.

Once in wide release, users will be able to choose from either a free account or an upgraded paid account.

The free account will likely be supported by ads and will have fewer features available to users.

An upgraded account will likely be ad free and offer more features to the end user. A free trial is a definite possibility!

As per a suggestion, we also added the ability for NXT marketplace users to purchase ad space today. If there is demand for other services that we can offer users, we're open to the idea of adding them to our offerings as well.

If you'd like to check it out, the Marketplace ID is: NXT-8AJU-343D-BKAN-BYNGC

Thanks again for your continued interest and support - we appreciate it!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 25, 2014, 01:45:54 pm
Hello all!

Things are setting up with a record month on revenues and lots of progress on our social media channels.

At the time of this writing, we're projecting gross revenues of approximately $2,775.00.

Based on this, we're forecasting that our first dividend payment - issued every 2 weeks beginning November 1, 2014 - will roughly be around $555.00 - divided proportionally to all shareholders of record as of October 15, 2014.

We're seeing nice volume on our offering - we're in the top 25 assets now available on the SAE!

Thanks again for your consideration and your contributions.

Kindly let me know if I can help with anything and have a good day!



Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 27, 2014, 01:47:18 pm
We're excited to have moved into the 15th position in trading volume on SAE!

There's still 18 days to accumulate shares for our first dividend payout taking place on November 1, 2014..

Thanks for your consideration and enjoy your day!

Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on September 27, 2014, 01:49:33 pm
We're excited to have moved into the 15th position in trading volume on SAE!

There's still 18 days to accumulate shares for our first dividend payout taking place on November 1, 2014..

Thanks for your consideration and enjoy your day!

I'm still buyin' and tweetin'. ;)  Have a great weekend, Heather!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: colin012 on September 27, 2014, 06:22:27 pm
We're excited to have moved into the 15th position in trading volume on SAE!

There's still 18 days to accumulate shares for our first dividend payout taking place on November 1, 2014..

Thanks for your consideration and enjoy your day!

Awesome! You bring considerable value to NXT!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on September 30, 2014, 11:59:50 am
Thanks everyone for your kind words and interest in the project.

Everything is on schedule and we'll be tabulating our numbers for September on October 1, 2014.

I can confirm that we secured another major advertiser in the last few days.

Please keep in mind that our first dividend payment will be issued on November 1, 2014 for all holders of record as of October 15, 2014, so now is a great time to accumulate - there are 4,668,893 shares available as of this post.

Thanks again for your consideration and have a great day!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on September 30, 2014, 10:40:26 pm
Thanks everyone for your kind words and interest in the project.

Everything is on schedule and we'll be tabulating our numbers for September on October 1, 2014.

I can confirm that we secured another major advertiser in the last few days.

Please keep in mind that our first dividend payment will be issued on November 1, 2014 for all holders of record as of October 15, 2014, so now is a great time to accumulate - there are 4,668,893 shares available as of this post.

Thanks again for your consideration and have a great day!

Excellent news!  I picked up a little bit more. ;)  I have another suggestion: you may wish to consider asking CoinMarketCap to add ACH to it's asset listing.  That would be great advertising outside the Nxt community.  There's not too many assets on there right now, so it wouldn't be difficult for an investor to browse through them and check out the one's that they aren't familiar with. ;)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 02, 2014, 03:02:17 pm
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Excellent news!  I picked up a little bit more. ;)  I have another suggestion: you may wish to consider asking CoinMarketCap to add ACH to it's asset listing.  That would be great advertising outside the Nxt community.  There's not too many assets on there right now, so it wouldn't be difficult for an investor to browse through them and check out the one's that they aren't familiar with. ;)

Thanks for your support and your suggestion, Cadence. We will follow up on that idea!

We have also tabulated our numbers for the month of September.. our results can be found here: https://alth.co/84euA (https://alth.co/84euA)

Revenue sharing begins for asset holders of record for the period of 10/1/2014 through 10/15/2014. Dividends will be announced on 10/16/2014 and paid on 11/01/2014. After that revenues and dividends will be calculated each two week period.

Thanks for your consideration and kindly let me know if I can help with any questions you might have.  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 04, 2014, 01:22:43 pm
I'm happy to report that we recently added a directory review section to the website - complete with SSL connections.

Like our toolset (currently in development) we will be offering both Free and Upgraded (paid) listing services, which contribute to higher revenues for ACH.

You can find it here: https://alth.co/wPXwx (https://alth.co/wPXwx)

Users can review and rate Crypto related services, exchanges, coins etc.

Thanks to everyone for your continued interest and support - we appreciate it!

Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 04, 2014, 05:00:23 pm
I'm happy to report that we recently added a directory review section to the website - complete with SSL connections.

Like our toolset (currently in development) we will be offering both Free and Upgraded (paid) listing services, which contribute to higher revenues for ACH.

You can find it here: https://alth.co/wPXwx (https://alth.co/wPXwx)

Users can review and rate Crypto related services, exchanges, coins etc.

Thanks to everyone for your continued interest and support - we appreciate it!

Very cool service, Heather!  Is this announced on the ACH front page?  I'd love to tweet it. :)  I went through and rated/left comments for the companies that I have done business with. :)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 05, 2014, 03:45:39 pm
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Very cool service, Heather!  Is this announced on the ACH front page?  I'd love to tweet it. :)  I went through and rated/left comments for the companies that I have done business with. :)

Thanks for your feedback, participation and kind words.

This hasn't yet been announced on our homepage, but the addition was added to our 'development' page: https://alth.co/DSftJ (https://alth.co/DSftJ)

As of today, there are ten days left to accumulate ACH for our first dividend payout - taking place on Nov. 1, 2014!

Woot! Woot!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 05, 2014, 03:54:37 pm
Woot! Woot!

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/2028688/raise-the-roof-o.gif)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 05, 2014, 04:09:55 pm
I forgot to mention that we will be adding this to the homepage.

Currently we're adding more services, coins, etc. This will give our advertisers even more pages to run banners on, so it's a 'win-win' situation for everyone!

As always, work on the ACH project continues!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 05, 2014, 08:46:19 pm
ACH has been added to CoinMarketCap!

http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/ach/ (http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/ach/)

Cheers!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: nxtuser on October 05, 2014, 09:41:46 pm
Can you please tell me if a ACH share is :
A- 1/5,000,000 of the ownership of the company ?
B- representing 1/5,000,000 of 40% of the profits of the company ?
C- something else ?
D- Is the IPO limited to the 5,000,000 shares on NXT Asset Exchange, or is there any other shares somewhere else ?
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 05, 2014, 11:10:12 pm
ACH has been added to CoinMarketCap!

http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/ach/ (http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/ach/)

Cheers!

Congrats!!!  Can't wait to see where you guys land after the dividends are rolling and your assets are all out on the open market. :)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 06, 2014, 11:13:51 am
Can you please tell me if a ACH share is :
A- 1/5,000,000 of the ownership of the company ?
B- representing 1/5,000,000 of 40% of the profits of the company ?
C- something else ?
D- Is the IPO limited to the 5,000,000 shares on NXT Asset Exchange, or is there any other shares somewhere else ?

Hello NXTUser~

Thanks for your inquiry.

As per our offering, we are sharing 40% of the revenues at the site with shareholders on a proportional basis. We aren't selling ownership of the site.

Please visit this page for the specifics: https://alth.co/rDPPI (https://alth.co/rDPPI)

ACH is only available on the NXT Asset Exchange and is limited to the 5,000,000 currently being sold.

Our first dividend payout will take place on Nov. 1, 2014 for all shareholders of record as of Oct. 15, 2014.

Thanks for your consideration and kindly let me know if I can help with anything else!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 06, 2014, 11:18:20 am
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Congrats!!!  Can't wait to see where you guys land after the dividends are rolling and your assets are all out on the open market. :)

Thanks!

Just a couple more weeks and we make our first dividend payout.

These are exciting times!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: nxtuser on October 06, 2014, 12:52:01 pm
Thanks for your inquiry.

As per our offering, we are sharing 40% of the revenues at the site with shareholders on a proportional basis. We aren't selling ownership of the site.

Please visit this page for the specifics: https://alth.co/rDPPI (https://alth.co/rDPPI)

ACH is only available on the NXT Asset Exchange and is limited to the 5,000,000 currently being sold.

Our first dividend payout will take place on Nov. 1, 2014 for all shareholders of record as of Oct. 15, 2014.

Thanks for your consideration and kindly let me know if I can help with anything else!
Thanks for your precise and quick answer !
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 06, 2014, 01:57:40 pm
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Thanks for your precise and quick answer !

You're welcome and thanks again for your consideration!

Kindly let me know if I can help with anything else - I'm always happy to assist!

Best Regards,
Heather
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 08, 2014, 05:34:18 pm
I'm excited to announce a new development at AltCoinHerald.com!

We recently added a forum to our web assets.

This will provide our friends and fans the opportunity to interact at our site.. we already have 14 members and we just launched about an hour ago!

If you would like to check it out - and/or join - you can find it here: https://alth.co/uWfr0 (https://alth.co/uWfr0)

It's also worth mentioning that there are still about 7 days left to pick up shares of ACH to qualify for our first dividend payout! (Must be a shareholder of record before October 15, 2014 for 1st dividend payout taking place on Nov. 1, 2014)

Shares available here: https://trade.secureae.com/#6789385243274909976 (https://trade.secureae.com/#6789385243274909976)

Thanks for your consideration and have a great day!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 08, 2014, 07:56:26 pm
This is very cool, Heather! I have a question that originates from my recent experience with Bitcointalk: what is ACH's policy on doxing individuals, harassment, and on giveaway posts?
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 08, 2014, 07:57:58 pm
Also, is it Tapatalk compatible?
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 09, 2014, 03:39:43 pm
This is very cool, Heather! I have a question that originates from my recent experience with Bitcointalk: what is ACH's policy on doxing individuals, harassment, and on giveaway posts?

Thanks for your kind words!

As like most other forum communities, we expect our members to treat others with respect -  name calling, personal attacks, exposing personal info etc. will NOT be tolerated.

Giveaways will be allowed..

Since we're really trying to help move Cryptocurrencies forward, working together is ultimately one of our goals.

Right now we're in the process of installing SSL ad servers, taking care of other technical aspects and getting everything up and running.

And yes, Tapatalk will be installed on the site for the convenience of mobile users.. no ETA on it yet, but likely sometime today or tomorrow!

Kindly let me know if you have any other questions, concerns or feedback - I'm always happy to help!

Thanks again for your interest and consideration - we appreciate it!

(Six days left to get shares ahead of our first dividend payout!)



Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 09, 2014, 04:28:11 pm

Thanks for your kind words!

As like most other forum communities, we expect our members to treat others with respect -  name calling, personal attacks, exposing personal info etc. will be tolerated.

Giveaways will be allowed..

Since we're really trying to help move Cryptocurrencies forward, working together is ultimately one of our goals.

Right now we're in the process of installing SSL ad servers, taking care of other technical aspects and getting everything up and running.

And yes, Tapatalk will be installed on the site for the convenience of mobile users.. no ETA on it yet, but likely sometime today or tomorrow!

Kindly let me know if you have any other questions, concerns or feedback - I'm always happy to help!

Thanks again for your interest and consideration - we appreciate it!

(Six days left to get shares ahead of our first dividend payout!)

Nicely!  I'm seeing your forums as a potential alternative to BTT, where professionals in the cryptocommunity can go to communicate about crypto without fear of harassment. :)  It might behoove ACH to take advantage of the current ire against BTT over the events unfolding there by placing an open invite to professionals to join you over there.  I know I will be creating an account and spending time there.  My holy trinity of cryptoforums: Nxt, ACH, and SuperNET! :)

It would be great too if there were additional rules setup around posting based on the individuals karma - like, for instance, why would a certain person be allowed to start new threads if they have negative karma?  And giving karma to somebody should only be allowed at a certain level of posting, like one hundred posts or some such.  That way sockpuppets can't swarm somebody's karma to "vote them off the island."  I don't know if that's possible with the forum code that you're using - just brainstorming here. :)

In any case, this is a great move for ACH and a welcome addition to the cryptocommunity!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 09, 2014, 05:03:24 pm
Thanks for your feedback!

All of these things will be taken into consideration as we finalize everything and get everything into place.

It's quite an undertaking, but we think that it will be another great contribution to the Cryptocurrency vertical!

Thanks again.. now it's back to work for me.. LOL!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 10, 2014, 05:28:04 pm
Just a quick update as we've been very busy at ACH!

There's about 5 days left for shareholders to add shares for our first dividend payout, so we're very excited about that.

We're also rolling out our self serve advertising platform as we speak - it's fully integrated to allow clients to upload their own ad details (including banner ads) and pay using Paypal, Credit Cards and BTC.

Tapatalk has also been integrated on the new forum, as promised yesterday.. Cadence, if you have time to have a look, please let me know if it's formatting correctly, etc.

Thanks for your consideration and have a great day!

Best Regards,
Heather
Heather
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 12, 2014, 05:20:10 pm
Happy Sunday everyone!

Just a quick check in - we've been very busy at ACH in preparation for our first dividend payout! (Shareholders of record as of Wednesday Oct. 15, 2014 qualify for it.)

Our self serve advertising center is now open for business and supports the following payment methods: BitCoin (via BitPay) Paypal, Paypal Credit - Pay Later and all major Credit Cards.

If you'd like to check the storefront out, you can do so here: https://alth.co/DbO9J (https://alth.co/DbO9J)

.. we thank you for your consideration and look forward to paying out all of our pioneer shareholders in the very near future .. November 1, 2014 to be exact!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 13, 2014, 05:28:15 pm
We will be announcing our first dividend payout in 2 1/2 days!

Everything is looking profitable!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: martismartis on October 13, 2014, 05:35:42 pm
We will be announcing our first dividend payout in 2 1/2 days!

Everything is looking profitable!

How much profitable?  ;D
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 13, 2014, 07:04:31 pm
Hello MartisMartis~

Thanks for your interest.

Please see this page for more information on our revenues - https://alth.co/84euA (https://alth.co/84euA)

Our payout will be officially announced on October 16, 2014..

Shareholders on record as of Oct. 15, 2014 will qualify for the first bi-weekly payout, taking place on November 1, 2014.

If you'd like to learn more about our plans, you can find out more here: https://alth.co/rDPPI (https://alth.co/rDPPI)

Thanks for your consideration!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: printshop on October 13, 2014, 07:23:55 pm
Hi
cobaltskky,my friend
We should keep the process,we dont know if it is a scam,right?
first,We need some official statement.

dont do the thing like Salsacz

if you dont know if it is a scam,don't promote and recommend the assets

thx

I don't think it's fair to jump to conclusions. ACH is on our top-priority list for a review because they are a dividend paying company. I am sure that it would be easy to just PM heather and ask her to post something on twitter.

That being said, we sent heather a PM about 3 days ago and we did not yet receive a response. Altcoinherald, if you see this could you just give us a quick ping back? Thanks.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 13, 2014, 07:29:54 pm
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I don't think it's fair to jump to conclusions. ACH is on our top-priority list for a review because they are a dividend paying company. I am sure that it would be easy to just PM heather and ask her to post something on twitter.

That being said, we sent heather a PM about 3 days ago and we did not yet receive a response. Altcoinherald, if you see this could you just give us a quick ping back? Thanks.

Hello Printshop~

Thanks for your message - we've been very busy at ACH, sorry if I missed your message.

Please keep an eye out for a PM from me very soon..

Thanks for your consideration and my apologies for the delay..
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: printshop on October 13, 2014, 07:30:45 pm
Quote

I don't think it's fair to jump to conclusions. ACH is on our top-priority list for a review because they are a dividend paying company. I am sure that it would be easy to just PM heather and ask her to post something on twitter.

That being said, we sent heather a PM about 3 days ago and we did not yet receive a response. Altcoinherald, if you see this could you just give us a quick ping back? Thanks.

Hello Printshop~

Thanks for your message - we've been very busy at ACH, sorry if I missed your message.

Please keep an eye out for a PM from me very soon..

Thanks for your consideration and my apologies for the delay..

You are very friendly. I like friendly ppl ^^
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 13, 2014, 07:48:48 pm
 ;D

Just replied to your PM from yesterday!

Sorry for the delay..
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: coinTEr on October 14, 2014, 04:59:23 pm
Hello Heather,

can you explain why do you transfer incoming NXT from sold shares to Account NXT-FZX8-TG5C-65HL-59J5V which buys back continuously your shares from you.
That account holds more than 20% of the sold shares. http://nxtreporting.com/?ac=4435491253725364134 (http://nxtreporting.com/?ac=4435491253725364134)

For example, the 22178.28990112 NXT from Oct 11th came directly from the ACH-account, other payments went not directly but with a detour through bter.

Seems like a circulation for me. Maybe there is a good reason for this.
I'm looking forward for your answer,

Thanks

Edit:
Seems, there are a few more accounts receiving NXT from ACH-Account, that do nothing else than buy back ACH-shares:

NXT-XBSR-PC7M-N2P5-72YR7 with 144.000 Shares (nearly 23%!)
NXT-FZX8-TG5C-65HL-59J5V with 131.000 Shares (nearly 21%!)
NXT-C4SZ-HDS5-HG8X-6LFLJ with 104.000 Shares (nearly 17%!)
NXT-M6GM-BQYH-8A8F-BKDC5 with 17.000 Shares

All these accounts received NXT from official ACH-account and did nothing else than buy back ACH-shares.....
That looks like you bought more than 60% of sold assets on your own! Is that correct?


Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 14, 2014, 06:00:50 pm
Hello CoinTEr~

Thanks for your interest and inquiry.

These transactions are part of private sales being conducted, as per third party requests.

I hope this helps clear things up and thanks for your consideration!

Best Regards,
Heather
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: printshop on October 14, 2014, 08:37:49 pm
...
Dividends will be calculated as 40% of our gross revenues.
...
Operational expenses will not be counted before dividends are calculated. Our operating expenses are minimal and our experienced team remains committed to frugality.
...
Our main priority will be to provide investors with a safe and steady return on their investment.
...
Asset holders of ACH will be entitled to a percentage of all revenue derived from banner ads, contextual ads, affiliate partnerships, any capital gains derived from investments, contra arrangements and as well as any future entrepreneurial activities that expand on our operations and add value.
...
Altcoin Herald issued 5,000,000 non-dilutable shares on September 1, 2014. Each share asset titled 'ACH' costs 1 NXT.
...
Proceeds from the financing will be used to invest in various revenue generating activities to ensure a minimal dividend payment outside of advertising and affiliate revenue related activities.
...
Dividends are calculated in a proportional manner. I.E. total shares offered/your shares x 40% of revenue.
...
Additional Security may be created under the same company name to represent new or emerging income streams or business activities or to represent mergers and acquisitions. *Your interest may be diluted.

Hi, quick question. The language you use above suggests that shares of ACH represent ownership of and control of ACH. Can you confirm this, or that ACH only represents the rights to an income stream? Second, if they only represent an income stream, can you please confirm whether or not this is an official company bylaw or if it is an unofficial contract (i.e. staking your rep on it).

Asking as a potential investor! Thx.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 14, 2014, 08:55:18 pm
Thanks for your inquiry.

We are offering revenue share, not ownership of the website.

It's offered as a 'Secure Asset' as all other projects on the SAE are.

We've offered all of the details here: https://alth.co/rDPPI (https://alth.co/rDPPI) if you'd like to read them in full.

Thanks again for your interest and have a great day!


Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: rubenbc on October 14, 2014, 09:46:55 pm
i'm IN, good luck with the project. it's so interesting
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 14, 2014, 09:53:01 pm
i'm IN, good luck with the project. it's so interesting

Thanks so much for your support and interest rubenaco! We appreciate it!

Not sure if you know, but tomorrow closes out our first dividend period - all shareholders of record before midnight Oct. 15, 2014 will receive payouts on our revenues on Nov. 1, 2014.

Thanks again for your consideration and cheers!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: rubenbc on October 14, 2014, 10:27:06 pm
yes, I have been reading the threat and yesterday I bought few assets.

regards
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: printshop on October 15, 2014, 02:38:35 am
Hello CoinTEr~
...
These transactions are part of private sales being conducted, as per third party requests.

I hope this helps clear things up and thanks for your consideration!

I spoke with Heather privately and got a similar answer, although she added that it was a German group of investors who were familiar with BTC.

This answer is not acceptable for a couple of reasons. First, the company (ACH) initiated the account. It's not a public account which would give full transparrency as Heather promised investors in the OP.

ACH created the account, apparently on behalf of a third party. But accounts named "relay" were sometimes used to mask the fact that the money was all coming from ACH. When bid orders were were made, they were made in small amounts spaced out over time. This doesn't make any sense to me. Barring an explanation from healther, these actions make it look like ACH was trying to hide the recycling of investor money into free shares for Healther or her friends.

I asked Heather about all of this in PM and she told me that she wasn't going to answer and, that I could say whatever I wanted to in my report. Well, it looks like she's been caught dilluting her shareholders so she can retain the majority of dividends for herself. It looks like she has been transferring shares to herself without paying for them, and cannot come up with an explanation for her behavior. I don't know what to think, obviously she has a good news site, but she has broken her contract with investors ("We will provide complete transparency in regards to operations by using public Bitcoin addresses for Revenues and Expenses.")

This doesn't really make a lot of sense, and I'm a little upset that Heather isn't going to tell us anything about these transfers. It's a red flag. But I wouldn't call it a scam. There might be a logical explanation. I'd like to hear it.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: kseistrup on October 15, 2014, 05:00:32 am
As an investor I'm gonna watch this thread closely.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: coinTEr on October 15, 2014, 05:40:27 am
Thanks, Heather for your quick response.

But I'm with printshop. If these accounts would be investors accounts, why do altcoinherald have to provide the nxt to buy the assets?
Investors buying nothing else than ACH? And not once, but in small charges over a longer time?
And often, shortly after NXT have been transfered to bter from the ACH-account,
these accounts received same or smaller amounts from bter and are instantly buying ACH for 1 NXT per share.
If you would have a buy-wall for 0.9999999 that would be fine! So you would give investors the chance to quit their investment.
But buying back at issue price, burning fees at bter-washing is not clean business.

It don't seems like scam for me, too, but I think, Heather was disappointed of the "offical" sales and tries to give apparent of a much bigger demand than actually is.
Also 4/5 of all buy-orders at low prices are from these specific accounts. There would be nearly no demand without these questionable accounts...

So please, Heather, give a better explanation, maybe I'm wrong, but I'm out of this until I get an acceptable statement.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: martismartis on October 15, 2014, 06:51:42 am
i'm IN, good luck with the project. it's so interesting

Thanks so much for your support and interest rubenaco! We appreciate it!

Not sure if you know, but tomorrow closes out our first dividend period - all shareholders of record before midnight Oct. 15, 2014 will receive payouts on our revenues on Nov. 1, 2014.

Thanks again for your consideration and cheers!

Could you please inform exact time and time zone for record of shareholders?
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 15, 2014, 09:59:22 am
Hello all and thanks for your continued interest in ACH.

I've offered an explanation and as many details as I can surrounding the private sales.

To answer MartisMartis' question - all shareholders of record as of 11:59 PM EST (New York Time) on October 15, 2014 will qualify for our first dividend payment being issued on November 1, 2014.

Thanks again for your consideration and have a great day!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: Abraxas 147 on October 15, 2014, 10:22:08 am
Quote
I've offered an explanation and as many details as I can surrounding the private sales.

Sorry but you haven't offer an explanation and no details to the inquiries. There was only:

Quote
These transactions are part of private sales being conducted, as per third party requests.

Looks more like a "private giveaway" to me, diluting the value of your asset as printshop has written in his post.

I wish you every success with your business but I will not invest as long as there is no more transparency with regard to this topic. 
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 15, 2014, 10:29:11 am
Hello and thanks for your interest.

These sales are all part of a private sale, as per the request of the buyer.

So we have to keep the details private.

Thanks for your kind wishes and have a great day!

Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 15, 2014, 12:11:47 pm
Forgot to add - The dividend will be announced tomorrow (Oct. 16, 2014) at 9 AM EST (New York Time.)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: sv3n on October 15, 2014, 12:23:26 pm
Hello and thanks for your interest.

These sales are all part of a private sale, as per the request of the buyer.

So we have to keep the details private.

Thanks for your kind wishes and have a great day!
As a company requesting public funds, it's prudent to at least discuss your public funding operations. The what, not the who. I don't need to know who your private investors are, but if they are involved in purchasing public shares, as an investor I would like some confidence that you're not painting the tape on us. This development does not encourage me.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 15, 2014, 12:42:25 pm
Hello sv3n~

Thanks for your interest and your message.

As I've stated, this is a private sale from someone that isn't active (and doesn't want to be active) in the NXT community, but trusts us.

They committed to buying assets in our offering despite their reluctance to be involved with the NXT community.

We've slowly been acquiring shares on their behalf - all transactions are visible on the blockchain.

I'm unsure how this affects anyone else, as dividends will be paid out to all ACH holders.

The private sales are being conducted at 1 NXT each, so they don't have competitive advantage over anyone else that's also buying at 1 NXT.

It's also worth noting there are over 4 million outstanding assets, so on a percentage basis their holdings are pretty insignificant.

Thanks for your interest and your consideration - have a great day!

 





Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 16, 2014, 12:24:30 pm
Hello everyone!

Let me first say 'thanks' to everyone that has participated in our project thus far.

As promised, here are our numbers for the first dividend payout - taking place on November 1, 2014:

We had $1537.00 Total Revenues with $307.40 (20%) Placed in Reserve.

The 40% eligible for dividend payouts on 5 million shares is $614.80. 

Nxt at .0006200 = 25,225 NXT total distribution.

Each ACH asset qualifies for a dividend payout of 0.005045.

Example: Assetholder has 25,000 ACH.

25,000 ACH X .005045 = 126 NXT Dividend Payout

Work and progress continues on the site - with the addition of new website sections, continuing work on the toolbox and other features, ongoing social media and business development outreach.

Second Dividend Payout Details

Any ACH assets purchased/held now through October 30, 2014 will qualify for our second dividend payout.

Earnings for this period will be announced on October 31, 2014 and the payout will take place on November 15, 2014.

Thanks again for your continued interest - it's a pleasure working with you!  ;D
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: PureVision on October 16, 2014, 01:16:49 pm
Why do you have a 15day delay between dividend calculation and the actual payout?
Why not pay the dividend immediately after the calculation?
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 16, 2014, 03:54:49 pm
Hello PureVision~

Thanks for your inquiry about our payout schedule.

This is how it was set up from the beginning of the offering.

You can find all of the details on ACH here: https://alth.co/rDPPI (https://alth.co/rDPPI)

Thanks for your consideration and have a great day!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: JanSako on October 16, 2014, 04:42:19 pm
Hi There,

It seems to me that you are calculating dividends on the total number of shares issued (5 mil). You have only sold a fraction of that (6-700k), so why are the unsold shares earning interest too? And who is getting that interest?

I know the formula is described in your wiki, but you must know this is a highly unusual scenario...


THX!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: sv3n on October 16, 2014, 05:11:34 pm
Hi There,

It seems to me that you are calculating dividends on the total number of shares issued (5 mil). You have only sold a fraction of that (6-700k), so why are the unsold shares earning interest too? And who is getting that interest?

I know the formula is described in your wiki, but you must know this is a highly unusual scenario...


THX!
Not really, it just means the shares are non dilutable. They would hold onto the profits as the asset issuer.  FunBot is doing the same thing with one of his assets.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: PureVision on October 16, 2014, 09:35:24 pm
Hello PureVision~

Thanks for your inquiry about our payout schedule.

This is how it was set up from the beginning of the offering.

You can find all of the details on ACH here: https://alth.co/rDPPI (https://alth.co/rDPPI)

Thanks for your consideration and have a great day!

Yes, I know it was set up like that since the ANN of your asset.
I'm just wondering what the reasoning behind it is.
Why hold on to the dividends for 15 days before paying them out to your investors?
There must be a reason why you made that decision.

Btw, I have ACH shares, so I'm asking as an investor.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: Abraxas 147 on October 17, 2014, 07:37:37 am
Hi Heather, congratulation to your first dividend!

One additional question to this:

Quote
As I've stated, this is a private sale from someone that isn't active (and doesn't want to be active) in the NXT community, but trusts us.

They committed to buying assets in our offering despite their reluctance to be involved with the NXT community.

We've slowly been acquiring shares on their behalf - all transactions are visible on the blockchain.


Why are you "slowly acquiring" this shares? Makes no sense to me. Let me asume there is a "hidden" investor why not just take his/her coins (e.g. BTC), create a NXT account and transfer the corresponding amount of shares to this account.

The way you are doing it results in a tremendous amont of fees per share. Let's look at an example to make this concrete:

TX 929304090026851768 -> ACH Issuer Account send 14198.19290901 NXT to NXT-L7EX-CN4P-FFXB-72VMP (1 NXT Fee)
TX 5772800330999201859 -> This account send 4198.29090901 NXT to NXT-FZX8-TG5C-65HL-59J5V (4 NXT Fee)
TX 7096555331293857580 -> This account send 101 NXT to NXT-6PWR-8EMR-JPL7-799C9 (1 NXT Fee)
TX 7466521941662259947 -> This account send 991.27645362 to NXT-T7LS-VGV2-8GEU-H95DC (1 NXT Fee)
TX 7333971768454892206 -> This account send 221 NXT to NXT-TC9P-MUDA-BMSZ-6Q5XT (1 NXT Fee)
TX 6789385243274909976 -> This account acquires 100 (!) Shares (1 NXT Fee)

9 NXT Fee for acquiring 100 shares (compared to a first dividend of 0.5045 NXT). Wow. And this is only one example. All the above accounts are buying shares, allways in very small amounts. And this is ongoing.

Could you please coment on this? Maybe I missed something. I only want to understand this. Thanks!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: printshop on October 17, 2014, 09:24:05 am
Hi Heather, congratulation to your first dividend!

One additional question to this:

Quote
As I've stated, this is a private sale from someone that isn't active (and doesn't want to be active) in the NXT community, but trusts us.

They committed to buying assets in our offering despite their reluctance to be involved with the NXT community.

We've slowly been acquiring shares on their behalf - all transactions are visible on the blockchain.


Why are you "slowly acquiring" this shares? Makes no sense to me. Let me asume there is a "hidden" investor why not just take his/her coins (e.g. BTC), create a NXT account and transfer the corresponding amount of shares to this account.

The way you are doing it results in a tremendous amont of fees per share. Let's look at an example to make this concrete:

TX 929304090026851768 -> ACH Issuer Account send 14198.19290901 NXT to NXT-L7EX-CN4P-FFXB-72VMP (1 NXT Fee)
TX 5772800330999201859 -> This account send 4198.29090901 NXT to NXT-FZX8-TG5C-65HL-59J5V (4 NXT Fee)
TX 7096555331293857580 -> This account send 101 NXT to NXT-6PWR-8EMR-JPL7-799C9 (1 NXT Fee)
TX 7466521941662259947 -> This account send 991.27645362 to NXT-T7LS-VGV2-8GEU-H95DC (1 NXT Fee)
TX 7333971768454892206 -> This account send 221 NXT to NXT-TC9P-MUDA-BMSZ-6Q5XT (1 NXT Fee)
TX 6789385243274909976 -> This account acquires 100 (!) Shares (1 NXT Fee)

9 NXT Fee for acquiring 100 shares (compared to a first dividend of 0.5045 NXT). Wow. And this is only one example. All the above accounts are buying shares, allways in very small amounts. And this is ongoing.

Could you please coment on this? Maybe I missed something. I only want to understand this. Thanks!

It really looks like Heather has stolen company shares. Why didn't we hear about these mysterious Germans until after we noticed the transfers? Heather needs to be able to prove she has the money to cover the sales. It has to be made visible in her company. Either she needs to show us fiat receipts, bitcoin transactions, or an amount of NXT in her company account. If she cannot do that then the conclusion is obvious.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: whale on October 17, 2014, 09:31:36 am
I messaged Heather ~24 hours ago in hope that she would release an official statement. I am yet to hear back from her. In the past, Heather has demonstrated eagerness to be transparent and she has always answered my messages promptly. I hope she takes my advice and puts this to rest.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 17, 2014, 10:17:54 am
Hello everyone~

I've already issued the official statement regarding the private sales.

These investors are looking at ACH as a long term investment - from outside the NXT community.

Since you have expressed displeasure we have went ahead and contacted our German investor and told him that we'll
no longer be able to conduct sales on his behalf.

Thanks for your consideration and have a great day.



Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: sv3n on October 17, 2014, 11:12:20 am
Hello everyone~

I've already issued the official statement regarding the private sales.

These investors are looking at ACH as a long term investment - from outside the NXT community.

Since you have expressed displeasure we have went ahead and contacted our German investor and told him that we'll
no longer be able to conduct sales on his behalf.

Thanks for your consideration and have a great day.

This is not what we were looking for.  None of us are concerned that there are private investors who don't want to participate in the NXT protocol, that's bound to happen.  Our concern has been how the investment is supposedly handled.  I don't agree with printshop that you are stealing funds, or the conclusion is obvious, as it appears to me instead that you're creating false volume to raise your position on the AE reporting tools, such as SAE and NXTReporting.  Otherwise, why would investors need funds from the account that is in fact raising the funds.  This is the question that we want answered.

You've been so open and transparent about everything else, this is such odd behavior.  I normally don't try to get involved in these things as they come off as trollish, but your statements have been so dodgy that it really struck me.  Please address this concern, and not with a reply of "there are private investors".  Is it some sort of escrow, or accounting practice, or some other  method you are using to keep track, and if so, please explain to us in a way that suggests you are not doing something dubious.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 17, 2014, 11:35:32 am
Hello~

Thanks for your inquiry.

There was  approximately 400,000 ACH sold via private sales - as I stated, we will no longer conduct sales on their behalf - hopefully this won't affect our overall sales due to this.

They probably won't want to buy any more because that's how they wanted the sale done. It was  paid in equivalent using another coin.

(It's also worth noting that my 'Transfer' button doesn't work - so there was no way to complete the transaction with a simple 'transfer.')

(http://i.imgur.com/SwVtSMH.jpg)

As for the terms, the sales were conducted at 1 NXT each, so they have no advantage over any one else participating in our revenue share offer.

As for 'stealing' I really don't appreciate the accusations and I've been forthcoming, respectful and responsive to everyone that has made an inquiry.

Thanks for your consideration and have a great day!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: sv3n on October 17, 2014, 01:00:39 pm
They probably won't want to buy any more because that's how they wanted the sale done. It was  paid in equivalent using another coin.

There are no incoming payments into the issuing account (except the initial funds to issue the asset).  But there is an outgoing payment into NXT-FZX8-TG5C-65HL-59J5V.  Aside from that payment, account FZX8 is funded only through payments coming from NXT-L7EX-CN4P-FFXB-72VMP.  In turn, account L7EX is only funded through the issuing account.  Therefore, FZX8 is funded soley by the issuing account and is only purchasing shares of ach.  There are no incoming transactions to offset the purchasing of ach shares from BTER or anywhere else, so how are equivalent values of another coin entering into this system?  When you state that you are being transparent by using the blockchain, and yet there is this odd obfuscation of transactions being done by the issuing account, this is what worries us.

As for 'stealing' I really don't appreciate the accusations and I've been forthcoming, respectful and responsive to everyone that has made an inquiry.

Personally, I did not mean to accuse, only to state what it looks like to me as an investor.  You have been very forthcoming about every other issue or concern brought up, except for this one.  You have only stated that it's a private sale without explanation, and that is what has lead the stirring of the pot.

As the saying goes, trust but verify.  There was trust, but now we have to verify.  Until that verification occurs, trust has been reduced.  And please understand, that in our world of decentralization, we have only ourselves and our trust in each other to go off of.  Understand that, at least from myself, I am only continuing this conversation because I have only myself to regulate the companies I invest in.  I had trusted you, and am still holding on that we can keep that trust, but a more substantial argument must be presented.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: printshop on October 17, 2014, 01:01:55 pm
Hello~

Thanks for your inquiry.

There was  approximately 400,000 ACH sold via private sales - as I stated, we will no longer conduct sales on their behalf - hopefully this won't affect our overall sales due to this.

They probably won't want to buy any more because that's how they wanted the sale done. It was  paid in equivalent using another coin.

(It's also worth noting that my 'Transfer' button doesn't work - so there was no way to complete the transaction with a simple 'transfer.')

(http://i.imgur.com/SwVtSMH.jpg)

As for the terms, the sales were conducted at 1 NXT each, so they have no advantage over any one else participating in our revenue share offer.

As for 'stealing' I really don't appreciate the accusations and I've been forthcoming, respectful and responsive to everyone that has made an inquiry.

Thanks for your consideration and have a great day!

So let me get this straight, your transfer button doesn't work? Then how did you transfer the money to the account to buy shares?

Why do I feel like I'm being lied to?
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: Abraxas 147 on October 17, 2014, 01:25:38 pm
Quote
(It's also worth noting that my 'Transfer' button doesn't work - so there was no way to complete the transaction with a simple 'transfer.')

Funny, your're showing us a screen were everyone can clearly see that your transfer button is O.k. 215 shares ready for transfer. Of course not more because they are on sale as you should know ;-). And even if you do not realise this dependency - there was no one here in the community you could ask?

It's sad to see that you are damaging your reputation by answers like this. You have a nice and promising business. Please return to an open and trustful communication to your investors. I don't want to accuse you. I just want reasonable answers to reasonable questions.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 17, 2014, 01:54:44 pm
Hello~

I'm actually relatively new to the NXT platform, so I don't know absolutely every intricacy of how the exchange here works.

If there's a user manual or other rules somewhere that you could refer me to I'll be happy to review them over the weekend.

As for trust, understand it works both ways.

Apparently there was a giant 'faux pas' in having a private sale - I've stated that it won't happen again. I'm sorry for any confusion this may have caused by being a 'newbie' here.




Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: coinTEr on October 17, 2014, 02:25:06 pm
So, you want to raise about $120.000 in NXT to fund your business and 6 weeks after your first announcement you now explain that you need a user manual for the NRS-client? Ironically your business is based on altcoins and your aim is "to educate and promote the use of all Cryptocurrencies - including NXT - as a major goal."....

You say the German investor told you to create a wide nested net of connected wallets which you should fund with an incredible number of small amounts over long time taking the NXT from yourself? How much time does it take to create a dozen of wallets and to move around NXT and shares the whole day in a circle causing about 5.000 NXT-fees up 'til now?

You never answered any of the important questions. It's getting hilarious!
It is so sad, because you have a real business, which is very promising and could have huge success... But this fundraising went totally wrong...
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: JanSako on October 17, 2014, 02:59:06 pm
Hi There,

It seems to me that you are calculating dividends on the total number of shares issued (5 mil). You have only sold a fraction of that (6-700k), so why are the unsold shares earning interest too? And who is getting that interest?

I know the formula is described in your wiki, but you must know this is a highly unusual scenario...


THX!
Not really, it just means the shares are non dilutable. They would hold onto the profits as the asset issuer.  FunBot is doing the same thing with one of his assets.

sv3n

Not sure which of FunBots do you mean, the only reference I found was this one: (sorry, haven't figured out how to paste screenshots yet :-(

From The announcement page of Funbot:
The formula for dividend payments is:

[YourShares/TotalSharesNotInIssuerAccount]*TotalDividend=YourDividend

According to Heather, ALL shares participate in dividends, even if they are sitting in the issuer's account. Again, maybe I am just too new around here, and have not seen this before...

BTW, it does say in the ACH rules that our shares may be diluted later if new revenue streams are identified and more funds need to be raised. But I have a feeling you meant a different kind of dilution.

Looking forward to see where this asset goes, will hold my few shares for now.

Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: sv3n on October 17, 2014, 03:03:26 pm
Hi There,

It seems to me that you are calculating dividends on the total number of shares issued (5 mil). You have only sold a fraction of that (6-700k), so why are the unsold shares earning interest too? And who is getting that interest?

I know the formula is described in your wiki, but you must know this is a highly unusual scenario...


THX!
Not really, it just means the shares are non dilutable. They would hold onto the profits as the asset issuer.  FunBot is doing the same thing with one of his assets.

sv3n

Not sure which of FunBots do you mean, the only reference I found was this one: (sorry, haven't figured out how to paste screenshots yet :-(

From The announcement page of Funbot:
The formula for dividend payments is:

[YourShares/TotalSharesNotInIssuerAccount]*TotalDividend=YourDividend

According to Heather, ALL shares participate in dividends, even if they are sitting in the issuer's account. Again, maybe I am just too new around here, and have not seen this before...

BTW, it does say in the ACH rules that our shares may be diluted later if new revenue streams are identified and more funds need to be raised. But I have a feeling you meant a different kind of dilution.

Looking forward to see where this asset goes, will hold my few shares for now.
FunBotReve is not diluted, it pays a fixed 30% of profits. It's in the FunBot thread, I can find a link if you like.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: satoshi on October 17, 2014, 03:43:01 pm
I have been crunching some numbers...

Out of 5,000,000 original assets offered for original sale, 4,326,280 assets still remain unsold.
Total assets sold so far=673720
%age asset sold= 673720/5,000,000*100=13.47%

You are offering 40% profits as dividends, but keeping 86.53% of these dividends anyways. ???

86% of 25,225=21694

So basically you are paying out 3531 NXT as dividend

At today's rate of .023 NXT/USD you are paying out a dividend of $81

excuse me as I gotta go and work on my cookie robots

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgDLryzDzYg



Hello everyone!

Let me first say 'thanks' to everyone that has participated in our project thus far.

As promised, here are our numbers for the first dividend payout - taking place on November 1, 2014:

We had $1537.00 Total Revenues with $307.40 (20%) Placed in Reserve.

The 40% eligible for dividend payouts on 5 million shares is $614.80. 

Nxt at .0006200 = 25,225 NXT total distribution.

Each ACH asset qualifies for a dividend payout of 0.005045.

Example: Assetholder has 25,000 ACH.

25,000 ACH X .005045 = 126 NXT Dividend Payout

Work and progress continues on the site - with the addition of new website sections, continuing work on the toolbox and other features, ongoing social media and business development outreach.

Second Dividend Payout Details

Any ACH assets purchased/held now through October 30, 2014 will qualify for our second dividend payout.

Earnings for this period will be announced on October 31, 2014 and the payout will take place on November 15, 2014.

Thanks again for your continued interest - it's a pleasure working with you!  ;D
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: sv3n on October 17, 2014, 04:38:27 pm
I have been crunching some numbers...

Out of 5,000,000 original assets offered for original sale, 4,326,280 assets still remain unsold.
Total assets sold so far=673720
%age asset sold= 673720/5,000,000*100=13.47%

You are offering 40% profits as dividends, but keeping 86.53% of these dividends anyways. ???

86% of 25,225=21694

So basically you are paying out 3531 NXT as dividend

At today's rate of .023 NXT/USD you are paying out a dividend of $81

Okay, let's slow down a little bit here.  The terms were made clear in the beginning, and in the real world where profits aren't earned by huge volatility, an 8 year ROI is not a bad investment (my bank certainly doesn't give me 11% APY).  This is a real world company with a product that already exists, which is why I chose to invest.  And keep in mind, before they were doing any sort of fund raising, they were keeping 100% of the dividends.  There is nothing wrong or dubious with this model, and if they can keep pace, it's a rather good investment.  Their articles appear to be well written and thoughtful, so I do see potential here if they are able to expand their reader base.

That being said, I'm still waiting on an explanation for why there are several accounts funded only by the issuing account that are doing nothing but buying back shares.  That is still a concern.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: TopoPlus on October 17, 2014, 04:56:37 pm
Is this a joke? 5.000.000 NXT for a blog writing about altcoins?

ROI ETA = NEVER!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 17, 2014, 05:39:07 pm
Hello everyone~

Just wanted to say 'thanks' to everyone that has invested in ACH so far.

We have went ahead and issued our first dividend payment (earlier than announced)  to all holders.

As per your feedback we've also changed our payout schedule to accommodate faster payouts going forward - this information has all been appended to our page here: https://alth.co/rDPPI (https://alth.co/rDPPI)

We are also forecasting a faster growth rate than just 8%, so this number isn't static.

Thanks again for your consideration and have a great Friday/weekend!  ;D
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: sv3n on October 17, 2014, 05:46:04 pm
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We will provide complete transparency in regards to operations by using public Bitcoin addresses for Revenues and Expenses.

Would you mind posting that Bitcoin address here?
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: kseistrup on October 17, 2014, 08:11:51 pm
This story gets weirder and weirder…
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 18, 2014, 08:24:52 pm
Hello everyone~

Just wanted to say 'thanks' to everyone that has invested in ACH so far.

We have went ahead and issued our first dividend payment (earlier than announced)  to all holders.

As per your feedback we've also changed our payout schedule to accommodate faster payouts going forward - this information has all been appended to our page here: https://alth.co/rDPPI (https://alth.co/rDPPI)

We are also forecasting a faster growth rate than just 8%, so this number isn't static.

Thanks again for your consideration and have a great Friday/weekend!  ;D

+1440 I say, ef the doubters.  I'm still investing in ACH. :)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 18, 2014, 10:29:13 pm
Thanks Cadence for your kind words..

More good news - Poloniex just added a BTC/ACH pair! Check it out here: https://alth.co/vdg06 (https://alth.co/vdg06)

Our market cap is still relatively small - so now is a great time to pick some up!

Thanks again to all for your interest!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 18, 2014, 11:05:53 pm
Thanks Cadence for your kind words..

More good news - Poloniex just added a BTC/ACH pair! Check it out here: https://alth.co/vdg06 (https://alth.co/vdg06)

Our market cap is still relatively small - so now is a great time to pick some up!

Thanks again to all for your interest!

Rock on!!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: Abraxas 147 on October 19, 2014, 11:54:52 am
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+1440 I say, ef the doubters.  I'm still investing in ACH. :)

Hi cobaltskky, this has nothing to do with doubt - it's just that some people here have questions concerning a very strange buying activity. And there is still a lack of satisfying answers so far.

We all wish ACH the best for her business (at least I think so) and many big investors :-).

Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 19, 2014, 12:42:13 pm
Hi cobaltskky, this has nothing to do with doubt - it's just that some people here have questions concerning a very strange buying activity. And there is still a lack of satisfying answers so far.

I guess I'm just wondering why the question about this small amount of assets is affecting people's confidence in this business?  I could understand if 100k leaked out somewhere, but my understanding is that the quantity in question is small?
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: sv3n on October 19, 2014, 01:01:36 pm
Hi cobaltskky, this has nothing to do with doubt - it's just that some people here have questions concerning a very strange buying activity. And there is still a lack of satisfying answers so far.

I guess I'm just wondering why the question about this small amount of assets is affecting people's confidence in this business?  I could understand if 100k leaked out somewhere, but my understanding is that the quantity in question is small?
A few of the accounts in question have 100 to 150k each. It's over half the total assets sold.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 19, 2014, 01:06:05 pm
Hi cobaltskky, this has nothing to do with doubt - it's just that some people here have questions concerning a very strange buying activity. And there is still a lack of satisfying answers so far.

I guess I'm just wondering why the question about this small amount of assets is affecting people's confidence in this business?  I could understand if 100k leaked out somewhere, but my understanding is that the quantity in question is small?
A few of the accounts in question have 100 to 150k each. It's over half the total assets sold.

I stand corrected! lol  Do we know how much they sold for?
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: sv3n on October 19, 2014, 01:11:13 pm
Hi cobaltskky, this has nothing to do with doubt - it's just that some people here have questions concerning a very strange buying activity. And there is still a lack of satisfying answers so far.

I guess I'm just wondering why the question about this small amount of assets is affecting people's confidence in this business?  I could understand if 100k leaked out somewhere, but my understanding is that the quantity in question is small?
A few of the accounts in question have 100 to 150k each. It's over half the total assets sold.

I stand corrected! lol  Do we know how much they sold for?
They sold for 1 NXT, but they are funded strictly by the issuing account, which is what makes this so odd. And it's not just one account, there are a few of them like this. I'm away from my computer so I won't be able to pull the actual accounts today, but some of the previous posts list them.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: satoshi on October 19, 2014, 01:17:05 pm
here is a list of all ach asset holders

http://nxtexplorer.com/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=4000&switch=9&id=6789385243274909976&sub=1&p=1
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 19, 2014, 01:28:38 pm
Hi cobaltskky, this has nothing to do with doubt - it's just that some people here have questions concerning a very strange buying activity. And there is still a lack of satisfying answers so far.

I guess I'm just wondering why the question about this small amount of assets is affecting people's confidence in this business?  I could understand if 100k leaked out somewhere, but my understanding is that the quantity in question is small?
A few of the accounts in question have 100 to 150k each. It's over half the total assets sold.

I stand corrected! lol  Do we know how much they sold for?
They sold for 1 NXT, but they are funded strictly by the issuing account, which is what makes this so odd. And it's not just one account, there are a few of them like this. I'm away from my computer so I won't be able to pull the actual accounts today, but some of the previous posts list them.

I dunno - if they were bought fair and square, then what's the problem?  I guess I'm a bit dense on this...
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: sv3n on October 19, 2014, 01:33:42 pm
Hi cobaltskky, this has nothing to do with doubt - it's just that some people here have questions concerning a very strange buying activity. And there is still a lack of satisfying answers so far.

I guess I'm just wondering why the question about this small amount of assets is affecting people's confidence in this business?  I could understand if 100k leaked out somewhere, but my understanding is that the quantity in question is small?
A few of the accounts in question have 100 to 150k each. It's over half the total assets sold.

I stand corrected! lol  Do we know how much they sold for?
They sold for 1 NXT, but they are funded strictly by the issuing account, which is what makes this so odd. And it's not just one account, there are a few of them like this. I'm away from my computer so I won't be able to pull the actual accounts today, but some of the previous posts list them.

I dunno - if they were bought fair and square, then what's the problem?  I guess I'm a bit dense on this...
Because they were bought with funds from the issuing account, which is circular. The account is essentially selling to itself with no outside funds.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 19, 2014, 01:45:10 pm
Because they were bought with funds from the issuing account, which is circular. The account is essentially selling to itself with no outside funds.

Still don't see the issue.  Again, maybe I'm dense as to the implications of this.  I suppose it would be nice for Heather to explain why ACH bought a chunk of itself with investor funds.  If investors still get the dividends from those shares, then I don't really see the issue.  Funky business strategy, but I've seen just as strange with jl777 assets. lol
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: pf on October 19, 2014, 02:01:14 pm
I've barely read the last two pages but I have to say that any shareholder who goes into the Dividend+ module and specifically tells it to distribute dividends to the asset issuer (for unsold shares) is basically a thief.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 19, 2014, 02:18:42 pm
I've barely read the last two pages but I have to say that any shareholder who goes into the Dividend+ module and specifically tells it to distribute dividends to the asset issuer (for unsold shares) is basically a thief.

Huh.  And I always thought that's how it worked with unsold shares.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: sv3n on October 19, 2014, 02:22:05 pm
I've barely read the last two pages but I have to say that any shareholder who goes into the Dividend+ module and specifically tells it to distribute dividends to the asset issuer (for unsold shares) is basically a thief.

Huh.  And I always thought that's how it worked with unsold shares.
For non dilutable, yes which is what this asset is. For dilutable, it is not the correct method, but let's not get out the pitchforks for something that is correctly stated in the OP. The method used is the correct distribution method pf.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 19, 2014, 02:58:01 pm
For non dilutable, yes which is what this asset is. For dilutable, it is not the correct method, but let's not get out the pitchforks for something that is correctly stated in the OP. The method used is the correct distribution method pf.

Seems like if the dividends that ACH pays to itself go back into the business, then it's not really an issue.  If the money is used for growth, then it benefits investors in the long run.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: sv3n on October 19, 2014, 03:31:48 pm
For non dilutable, yes which is what this asset is. For dilutable, it is not the correct method, but let's not get out the pitchforks for something that is correctly stated in the OP. The method used is the correct distribution method pf.

Seems like if the dividends that ACH pays to itself go back into the business, then it's not really an issue.  If the money is used for growth, then it benefits investors in the long run.
I understand that, and I'm all for reinvestment. I didn't mean to make this out to be a witch hunt. I just felt a good answer was in order, which we didn't get. James sure can do some odd accounting, granted, but he also does a good job explaining those transactions when asked. That had not happened here and I was quite surprised given the transparency of everything else that's been discussed here.

This is a real company with a product that already is on the market. I do not want to discourage their use of the asset exchange but rather I do want to encourage that. But it must be known that given the transparency of the blockchain, these questions will come up and a good answer should be ready when they do. That's all I'm looking for.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 19, 2014, 03:32:53 pm
I'm curious myself.  It won't stop me from investing, unless it becomes a habit...
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: pf on October 19, 2014, 09:00:37 pm
My principal issue with that practice is that it ensures that the asset issuer will get the bulk of any dividends, until all of their shares are 'sold'
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 19, 2014, 09:28:50 pm
My principal issue with that practice is that it ensures that the asset issuer will get the bulk of any dividends, until all of their shares are 'sold'

Sure - but if they use those funds to grow the business, I don't see an issue with it.  Now, if they're paying themselves and the money is going outside the business somewhere: that's concerning for me.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: trollstocker on October 19, 2014, 09:49:20 pm
My principal issue with that practice is that it ensures that the asset issuer will get the bulk of any dividends, until all of their shares are 'sold'

Sure - but if they use those funds to grow the business, I don't see an issue with it.  Now, if they're paying themselves and the money is going outside the business somewhere: that's concerning for me.

Agreed..I think they have a great business model and do a good service to the altcoin world..
I think they are honest people doing the best they can to make it a success.

I am only going to say this once and am sure i will get bitcoinpaulled to death for it but
in my short time here at Nxt i have noticed two sets of standards IMO

lots of other assets have the same round robin trading and NOTHING ever gets said except for the occasional troll that wants to stir the pot..But all the sudden ACH is run by the russian mob..LOL

Disclaimer I do Own some ACH and proud of it
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 19, 2014, 09:59:37 pm
My principal issue with that practice is that it ensures that the asset issuer will get the bulk of any dividends, until all of their shares are 'sold'

Sure - but if they use those funds to grow the business, I don't see an issue with it.  Now, if they're paying themselves and the money is going outside the business somewhere: that's concerning for me.

Agreed..I think they have a great business model and do a good service to the altcoin world..
I think they are honest people doing the best they can to make it a success.

I am only going to say this once and am sure i will get bitcoinpaulled to death for it but
in my short time here at Nxt i have noticed two sets of standards IMO

lots of other assets have the same round robin trading and NOTHING ever gets said except for the occasional troll that wants to stir the pot..But all the sudden ACH is run by the russian mob..LOL

Disclaimer I do Own some ACH and proud of it

I'd like to hear about your theory on the two sets of assets.  I think I'm beginning to see the same trend.  Is it something to do with people "picking favorites" and not applying their standards to all assets equally?

PS I gave you a preemptive Applaud to help offset the inbound Bitcoinpauls. lol
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: trollstocker on October 19, 2014, 11:27:43 pm
Let me give you a example..I own XNF in fact they were the ones that got me and many others interested in Nxt
http://xnfcoinwatch.com/2014/07/21/xnf-added-to-the-nxt-asset-exchange/

 . IMO it should of been a big success here a Coin/Asset currently backed 100% by real gold and trading at 7.00 per coin outside of the AE they currently have almost 6 million dollars in gold backing them..the first few days/weeks went fairly well and then certain posters came on and started posting about it.. XNF has been a very popular coin trading on ripple and that is where i bought it WAY back my first buy was 62.5 ripples to one XNF..it has been as high as 2200 and currently trades around 1300.they are a real company with 12 employees doing some cutting edge things in the crypto-world just trying to get some extra exposure on the AE..

http://www.nofiatcoin.com/

Now after some posters kept posting negative posts and a CERTAIN one came out and stated "i didn't understand XNF back in January and I still don't understand it today" and curiously that post must of been deleted because i can't find it now BUT remember reading it very well.


Shortly after that the volume all the sudden dried up to 0 and has hardly traded since..
I won't mention names but all you have to do is read through the threads and it will become clear.

I am just stating my opinion here and still believe if gone about the right way Nxt could be huge..Nxtty and supernet could change everything..But trying to discredit REAL companies from putting their assets on here to get more exposure isn't the way to move forward IMO





Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 20, 2014, 12:18:32 am
Thank you for explaining.  I think I understand what you're getting at, and I agree.  We should be welcoming to businesses.  Investors should perform due diligence, and should ease into any new offering.  It's foolhardy to dump more than you stand to lose on an unproven assets or upon an untrusted individual.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: Freebieservers on October 20, 2014, 12:39:03 am
Let me give you a example..I own XNF in fact they were the ones that got me and many others interested in Nxt
http://xnfcoinwatch.com/2014/07/21/xnf-added-to-the-nxt-asset-exchange/

 . IMO it should of been a big success here a Coin/Asset currently backed 100% by real gold and trading at 7.00 per coin outside of the AE they currently have almost 6 million dollars in gold backing them..the first few days/weeks went fairly well and then certain posters came on and started posting about it.. XNF has been a very popular coin trading on ripple and that is where i bought it WAY back my first buy was 62.5 ripples to one XNF..it has been as high as 2200 and currently trades around 1300.they are a real company with 12 employees doing some cutting edge things in the crypto-world just trying to get some extra exposure on the AE..

http://www.nofiatcoin.com/

Now after some posters kept posting negative posts and a CERTAIN one came out and stated "i didn't understand XNF back in January and I still don't understand it today" and curiously that post must of been deleted because i can't find it now BUT remember reading it very well.


Shortly after that the volume all the sudden dried up to 0 and has hardly traded since..
I won't mention names but all you have to do is read through the threads and it will become clear.

I am just stating my opinion here and still believe if gone about the right way Nxt could be huge..Nxtty and supernet could change everything..But trying to discredit REAL companies from putting their assets on here to get more exposure isn't the way to move forward IMO

As a start-up owner myself, I can really see what you mean. I avoided selling much shares - so that I could hold a major chunk and sell as per needed but this has completely eradicated the community's interest in my business. I often take time out to post updates regarding the company and explaining what we'd want to do next but almost zero feedback and money kind of makes me feel bad at the end of the day. That said, a few members HAVE been very welcoming and am glad to be a part of this wonderful community. I am open to all kinds of due diligences and queries from potential investors but its rare I see anyone interested in helping us set things up.

We are close to releasing our own version of a cross-platform gamer coin and maybe this would garner some hype . In addition we would also be offering advertiser spots for our asset owners on our platform so that we could add more value to their investment.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: printshop on October 20, 2014, 08:00:42 pm
I messaged Heather ~24 hours ago in hope that she would release an official statement. I am yet to hear back from her. In the past, Heather has demonstrated eagerness to be transparent and she has always answered my messages promptly. I hope she takes my advice and puts this to rest.

You messaged Heather 5 days ago. Any updates? Did she respond?
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 21, 2014, 11:02:55 am
TrollStocker and Cobaltskky~

Thanks so much for your kind words and your support - we appreciate it!

CoinMarketCap recently added our Poloniex trading volume to their site -  we're excited to be one of the top trading pairs at Polo.

We're around 10 days away from our second payout - which is in line with our projections.

I will keep this thread updated with any important and relevant information, as it becomes available.

Thanks again for your continued interest and have a great day!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: whale on October 21, 2014, 01:23:13 pm
I messaged Heather ~24 hours ago in hope that she would release an official statement. I am yet to hear back from her. In the past, Heather has demonstrated eagerness to be transparent and she has always answered my messages promptly. I hope she takes my advice and puts this to rest.

You messaged Heather 5 days ago. Any updates? Did she respond?

In hope for transparency, I thought Heather would have taken my advice to be honest with investors but she respectfully declined.

How this was handled has surprised me.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 21, 2014, 01:51:01 pm
There's a difference between honesty and disclosure. She may not have disclosed the details behind the transactions, but I have never noted her specifically being dishonest about them.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: coinTEr on October 21, 2014, 03:01:29 pm
Quote
She may not have disclosed the details behind the transactions, but I have never noted her specifically being dishonest about them.

She said, the three major accounts that bought 60% of all shares are accounts from a anonymous German investor.
One of these accounts now paid the first round of asset-dividends. That is really kind from the German guy!

In the announcement (first post in this thread) she tells to sell each share for 1 NXT. A few days ago she took away her remaining 4.2mio shares and startet selling at higher prices up to 1.4 but with smaller charges. Now she continues to sell for 1 with smaller quantity, but left higher orders as a teaser on the sell side.

I am sure, she still buys shares on her own. But now she tries to disguise these accounts better, using old longtime inactive accounts and mixing ach with other assets and probably she concentrates on pushing the trading volume on Poloniex since it is not that easy to expose her doing there. (This part of my post is my own conclusion and might be not correct or the whole truth.)

I hoped she will use the funds to invest in a webdesigner/developer to improve altcoinherald.com, maybe in some advertisement to increase traffic and thereby selling more site-ads. But instead of that, she uses the funds to trick around, making one strange thing after the other and sit out every question on her.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 21, 2014, 03:11:36 pm
Good analysis. I'd like to hear Heather's side of the story.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: printshop on October 21, 2014, 04:48:14 pm
One of these accounts now paid the first round of asset-dividends. That is really kind from the German guy!

i can't understand how this isn't a scam.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: coinTEr on October 22, 2014, 08:51:26 am
Congratulations Heather for your 3th place in Poloniex 24-hour volume!  ;D

That is a total volume of 17.311 BTC in 24 hours, which is something about 280'000 NXT!

That is nearly the same trading volume as your whole trading volume at the AE since ACH started at Sep 1st
if you leave of the three major Heather-owned accounts. It is really a great show to watch this asset!  Thank you!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 22, 2014, 02:05:40 pm
Let me give you a example..I own XNF in fact they were the ones that got me and many others interested in Nxt
http://xnfcoinwatch.com/2014/07/21/xnf-added-to-the-nxt-asset-exchange/

 . IMO it should of been a big success here a Coin/Asset currently backed 100% by real gold and trading at 7.00 per coin outside of the AE they currently have almost 6 million dollars in gold backing them..the first few days/weeks went fairly well and then certain posters came on and started posting about it.. XNF has been a very popular coin trading on ripple and that is where i bought it WAY back my first buy was 62.5 ripples to one XNF..it has been as high as 2200 and currently trades around 1300.they are a real company with 12 employees doing some cutting edge things in the crypto-world just trying to get some extra exposure on the AE..

http://www.nofiatcoin.com/

Now after some posters kept posting negative posts and a CERTAIN one came out and stated "i didn't understand XNF back in January and I still don't understand it today" and curiously that post must of been deleted because i can't find it now BUT remember reading it very well.


Shortly after that the volume all the sudden dried up to 0 and has hardly traded since..
I won't mention names but all you have to do is read through the threads and it will become clear.

I am just stating my opinion here and still believe if gone about the right way Nxt could be huge..Nxtty and supernet could change everything..But trying to discredit REAL companies from putting their assets on here to get more exposure isn't the way to move forward IMO

hey trollstocker

 I bought some XNF a few months back and I too watched the liquidity dry right up.
BUT i saw a few things in regards to that. I tried to sign up at the main XNF site and it was stupidly hard, id scans, etc. plus avianxf or whatever the one pumpers name was never succeeded in breaking into the community.
 It was pretty obvious to me that he was trying to drum up a market, and never made it work. This was the cause of no liquidity to me.
 SO now i have 8K assets that wont sell and no one wants to join me, and the main site is impenetrable. This is a combo we call "Barriers to Adoption"
 Plus we have no proof this is even a really traded asset. I mean, i see Apple and Facebook shares on the AE, and Ether, and so on and so on. What tells people that XNF is real?

 In the end i bought at 159 and sold at 180 when someone came in and bought up my position. I was never too worried about the stock, but not once after buying did I feel the issuer or the community was really behind it to grow.

 
 

Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 22, 2014, 02:09:20 pm
For non dilutable, yes which is what this asset is. For dilutable, it is not the correct method, but let's not get out the pitchforks for something that is correctly stated in the OP. The method used is the correct distribution method pf.

Seems like if the dividends that ACH pays to itself go back into the business, then it's not really an issue.  If the money is used for growth, then it benefits investors in the long run.

If she paid dividends to all 5M shares while she still holds 4.3M then it is a really big deal.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: pf on October 22, 2014, 02:57:06 pm
For non dilutable, yes which is what this asset is. For dilutable, it is not the correct method, but let's not get out the pitchforks for something that is correctly stated in the OP. The method used is the correct distribution method pf.

Seems like if the dividends that ACH pays to itself go back into the business, then it's not really an issue.  If the money is used for growth, then it benefits investors in the long run.

If she paid dividends to all 5M shares while she still holds 4.3M then it is a really big deal.
She isn't the first asset to do this, jef.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 22, 2014, 03:02:37 pm
I don't understand why a business that owns it's own shares shouldn't get the benefits of owning that share, assuming the funds stay within the business and don't leak to personal accounts.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 22, 2014, 03:10:22 pm
For non dilutable, yes which is what this asset is. For dilutable, it is not the correct method, but let's not get out the pitchforks for something that is correctly stated in the OP. The method used is the correct distribution method pf.

Seems like if the dividends that ACH pays to itself go back into the business, then it's not really an issue.  If the money is used for growth, then it benefits investors in the long run.

If she paid dividends to all 5M shares while she still holds 4.3M then it is a really big deal.
She isn't the first asset to do this, jef.

Its a big deal no matter who does it.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 22, 2014, 03:11:59 pm
I don't understand why a business that owns it's own shares shouldn't get the benefits of owning that share, assuming the funds stay within the business and don't leak to personal accounts.

The problem is they don't "own the shares", they are unissued, and the 86% dilutes the real shareholders earnings by magnitudes.

edit 86%
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: sv3n on October 22, 2014, 03:15:05 pm
I don't understand why a business that owns it's own shares shouldn't get the benefits of owning that share, assuming the funds stay within the business and don't leak to personal accounts.

The problem is they don't "own the shares", they are unissued, and the 86% dilutes the real shareholders earnings by magnitudes.

edit 86%
How? It's a non dilutable share.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 22, 2014, 03:16:57 pm
They own that share of their business at the moment... They are selling that share of their business to the public. Until somebody buys that share, the share is theirs. At least, that's my understanding. Could you post a link on how shares in businesses work? I'd like to read up a bit on it so I can speak more intelligently to the topic. :)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: pf on October 22, 2014, 03:28:16 pm
I don't understand why a business that owns it's own shares shouldn't get the benefits of owning that share, assuming the funds stay within the business and don't leak to personal accounts.

The problem is they don't "own the shares", they are unissued, and the 86% dilutes the real shareholders earnings by magnitudes.

edit 86%
How? It's a non dilutable share.
All assets on the AE are non dilutable (as in we cannot issue any additional assets once the asset is initially issued).
I think you are a bit confused on what non dilutable shares are.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 22, 2014, 03:28:41 pm
Youre missing the point here..

In a fair issuance the shareholder can hold their shares and earn dividends, but who for a second agrees that ACH is valued at 5Mnxt?? Thats $125k USD right now.
As I see it, heather PULLED the 4.3M from the offer, which effectively means the company exists in the ~700k shares,  giving it a value of $17,500 (still overpriced from the p/e but..)
Since the 4.3M are not in play, they should not IN GOOD FAITH be taking dividends.

This is a prime example of people not wanting to see the stink in front of their eyes. We all loved FunBot when he was paying, but things went wrong and people screamed for his head on a stick and demanded better practices.

HERE IS YOUR CHANCE before it fails. 
SHAREHOLDERS, demand proper practices on the ASSET YOU ALREADY OWN.
If she took 86% of your dividends why are you not concerned? Heads in the sand won't help.

Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: sv3n on October 22, 2014, 03:36:44 pm


I don't understand why a business that owns it's own shares shouldn't get the benefits of owning that share, assuming the funds stay within the business and don't leak to personal accounts.

The problem is they don't "own the shares", they are unissued, and the 86% dilutes the real shareholders earnings by magnitudes.

edit 86%
How? It's a non dilutable share.
All assets on the AE are non dilutable (as in we cannot issue any additional assets once the asset is initially issued).
I think you are a bit confused on what non dilutable shares are.

My understanding was that a non dilutable share provided a fixed percentage and a dilutable share provided a non fixed percentage as a function of sold shares. It was stated at the beginning that this was non dilutable, so each share would provide a fixed percentage of revenues.  It is up to the investor to determine if that fixed percentage was worth the cost and provided sufficient ROI.

I'm not pleased with this asset, but not for this reason. This was all clearly stated in the OP.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 22, 2014, 03:37:35 pm
I don't understand why a business that owns it's own shares shouldn't get the benefits of owning that share, assuming the funds stay within the business and don't leak to personal accounts.

The problem is they don't "own the shares", they are unissued, and the 86% dilutes the real shareholders earnings by magnitudes.

edit 86%
How? It's a non dilutable share.
All assets on the AE are non dilutable (as in we cannot issue any additional assets once the asset is initially issued).
I think you are a bit confused on what non dilutable shares are.

shes making it a manually dilutable share, by issuing 5M but only putting 700K into play. then when she wants the rest she can dump, effectively diluting your 100% down to 14%.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: sv3n on October 22, 2014, 03:38:41 pm
I don't understand why a business that owns it's own shares shouldn't get the benefits of owning that share, assuming the funds stay within the business and don't leak to personal accounts.

The problem is they don't "own the shares", they are unissued, and the 86% dilutes the real shareholders earnings by magnitudes.

edit 86%
How? It's a non dilutable share.
All assets on the AE are non dilutable (as in we cannot issue any additional assets once the asset is initially issued).
I think you are a bit confused on what non dilutable shares are.

shes making it a manually dilutable share, by issuing 5M but only putting 700K into play. then when she wants the rest she can dump, effectively diluting your 100% down to 14%.
Okay, it looks like the sell wall was taken down. This is an issue!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 22, 2014, 03:39:22 pm
thing about this asset is there is NO COMMON SENSE to the price

whats the asset worth? TOTAL BOTTOM LINE? tell me, and then we can figure out the share price from there.

I SAY its worth $20K MAX.

$20K USD is 869565.217 NXT. FOR THE WHOLE 5M shares
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 22, 2014, 03:41:26 pm
20K valuation is 0.17 per share for the WHOLE 5M shares.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: pf on October 22, 2014, 04:12:25 pm
Dilutable shares mean that the asset issuer can issue additional shares at a later time.
Non dilutable shares mean that the asset issuer can only issue a single batch of shares.
I agree with jef, this is effectively making an AE offering (which is usually non dilutable) into a dilutable one (by her holding onto the majority of the shares to issue later).

Personally I feel that an asset issuer who holds onto a significant portion of the shares and then pays those shares out, is literally stealing from everyone who bought shares.
For every asset that I have ever released I purchased with my own personal NXT, my own stake in the asset. (and held it in my personal NXT account).

Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: sv3n on October 22, 2014, 04:29:18 pm


Dilutable shares mean that the asset issuer can issue additional shares at a later time.
Non dilutable shares mean that the asset issuer can only issue a single batch of shares.
I agree with jef, this is effectively making an AE offering (which is usually non dilutable) into a dilutable one (by her holding onto the majority of the shares to issue later).

Personally I feel that an asset issuer who holds onto a significant portion of the shares and then pays those shares out, is literally stealing from everyone who bought shares.
For every asset that I have ever released I purchased with my own personal NXT, my own stake in the asset. (and held it in my personal NXT account).

I did not see that the sell wall was taken down until today, which does make it dilutable for sure. That completely goes against the OP.

I don't have a problem with an asset issuer holding onto significant percent as long as that's stated and the terms are understood and followed. A company has every right to hold onto its profits proportional to their investment.  Before issuing this asset, they held 100% of revenue, so they are diluting their revenue by fund raising as a request for upfront capital.

Grated they are overvalued, which offsets the revenue dilution, but again, that was all available information in the OP.

Again, not trying to defend this asset, as they have now taken down the sell wall, making the payout diluted, and the questionable shifting of funds is no good either. I just want to point out what I see as the more relevant concerns.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 22, 2014, 05:10:36 pm
So shares are all floating, Heather takes her giant cut, and the market should react by CRASHING THE PRICE down to .17 or lower,

but it wont. because the AE is not very liquid, nor is it populated with informed investors.

Heather, there are a couple things you can do here.
1 Burn those 4M assets. Keep 300k for yourself as directors shares.
2 Do an inverted share split and give all holders 4x more shares, and then correct the market price
3 Give the outstanding shares to a 3rd party who will release them in tranches at pre approved asset valuation levels, ie Dividend pays X per month over 3 months

Shareholders and Community, its up to you to now hold these issuers to fair and proper terms or scammers will keep coming to prey on us.

Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: trollstocker on October 22, 2014, 11:27:51 pm
Let me give you a example..I own XNF in fact they were the ones that got me and many others interested in Nxt
http://xnfcoinwatch.com/2014/07/21/xnf-added-to-the-nxt-asset-exchange/

 . IMO it should of been a big success here a Coin/Asset currently backed 100% by real gold and trading at 7.00 per coin outside of the AE they currently have almost 6 million dollars in gold backing them..the first few days/weeks went fairly well and then certain posters came on and started posting about it.. XNF has been a very popular coin trading on ripple and that is where i bought it WAY back my first buy was 62.5 ripples to one XNF..it has been as high as 2200 and currently trades around 1300.they are a real company with 12 employees doing some cutting edge things in the crypto-world just trying to get some extra exposure on the AE..

http://www.nofiatcoin.com/

Now after some posters kept posting negative posts and a CERTAIN one came out and stated "i didn't understand XNF back in January and I still don't understand it today" and curiously that post must of been deleted because i can't find it now BUT remember reading it very well.


Shortly after that the volume all the sudden dried up to 0 and has hardly traded since..
I won't mention names but all you have to do is read through the threads and it will become clear.

I am just stating my opinion here and still believe if gone about the right way Nxt could be huge..Nxtty and supernet could change everything..But trying to discredit REAL companies from putting their assets on here to get more exposure isn't the way to move forward IMO

hey trollstocker

 I bought some XNF a few months back and I too watched the liquidity dry right up.
BUT i saw a few things in regards to that. I tried to sign up at the main XNF site and it was stupidly hard, id scans, etc. plus avianxf or whatever the one pumpers name was never succeeded in breaking into the community.
 It was pretty obvious to me that he was trying to drum up a market, and never made it work. This was the cause of no liquidity to me.
 SO now i have 8K assets that wont sell and no one wants to join me, and the main site is impenetrable. This is a combo we call "Barriers to Adoption"
 Plus we have no proof this is even a really traded asset. I mean, i see Apple and Facebook shares on the AE, and Ether, and so on and so on. What tells people that XNF is real?

 In the end i bought at 159 and sold at 180 when someone came in and bought up my position. I was never too worried about the stock, but not once after buying did I feel the issuer or the community was really behind it to grow.

That's odd jef because when I signed up it took me 10 minutes and i scanned my doc and downloaded to their site. Most KYC businesses are like that..I have made several transactions since and they went flawlessly

Everyone of the employees in the company can be either reached on twitter or by company email
they are a real company all you have to do is check them out..you are starting to concern me if this is the way you investigate companies with nxtinspect!.

On another note what is to stop anyone with a company on the AE to just pack up and vanish>? yes James included? at least we have real names with Altcoin Herald and XNF..





Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 22, 2014, 11:36:03 pm
Let me give you a example..I own XNF in fact they were the ones that got me and many others interested in Nxt
http://xnfcoinwatch.com/2014/07/21/xnf-added-to-the-nxt-asset-exchange/

 . IMO it should of been a big success here a Coin/Asset currently backed 100% by real gold and trading at 7.00 per coin outside of the AE they currently have almost 6 million dollars in gold backing them..the first few days/weeks went fairly well and then certain posters came on and started posting about it.. XNF has been a very popular coin trading on ripple and that is where i bought it WAY back my first buy was 62.5 ripples to one XNF..it has been as high as 2200 and currently trades around 1300.they are a real company with 12 employees doing some cutting edge things in the crypto-world just trying to get some extra exposure on the AE..

http://www.nofiatcoin.com/

Now after some posters kept posting negative posts and a CERTAIN one came out and stated "i didn't understand XNF back in January and I still don't understand it today" and curiously that post must of been deleted because i can't find it now BUT remember reading it very well.


Shortly after that the volume all the sudden dried up to 0 and has hardly traded since..
I won't mention names but all you have to do is read through the threads and it will become clear.

I am just stating my opinion here and still believe if gone about the right way Nxt could be huge..Nxtty and supernet could change everything..But trying to discredit REAL companies from putting their assets on here to get more exposure isn't the way to move forward IMO

hey trollstocker

 I bought some XNF a few months back and I too watched the liquidity dry right up.
BUT i saw a few things in regards to that. I tried to sign up at the main XNF site and it was stupidly hard, id scans, etc. plus avianxf or whatever the one pumpers name was never succeeded in breaking into the community.
 It was pretty obvious to me that he was trying to drum up a market, and never made it work. This was the cause of no liquidity to me.
 SO now i have 8K assets that wont sell and no one wants to join me, and the main site is impenetrable. This is a combo we call "Barriers to Adoption"
 Plus we have no proof this is even a really traded asset. I mean, i see Apple and Facebook shares on the AE, and Ether, and so on and so on. What tells people that XNF is real?

 In the end i bought at 159 and sold at 180 when someone came in and bought up my position. I was never too worried about the stock, but not once after buying did I feel the issuer or the community was really behind it to grow.

That's odd jef because when I signed up it took me 10 minutes and i scanned my doc and downloaded to their site. Most KYC businesses are like that..I have made several transactions since and they went flawlessly

Everyone of the employees in the company can be either reached on twitter or by company email
they are a real company all you have to do is check them out..you are starting to concern me if this is the way you investigate companies with nxtinspect!.

On another note what is to stop anyone with a company on the AE to just pack up and vanish>? yes James included? at least we have real names with Altcoin Herald and XNF..
I will admit I turned away at first sign of kyc. I didn't know who they were and didn't feel like providing them with information right away.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 24, 2014, 07:25:18 am
Hey heather

 i've been doing some inspecting and I have seen some weird stuff. Maybe you can explain, and also maybe the other people in this thread can help?

 http://www.nxtreporting.com/?ac=NXT-V9ND-E489-AXUL-5HH5Q is your main account. holds 4.12M shares.
 From that account there are outgoing transactions totally 737584NXT

 Those transactions go mostly to two accounts.
NXT-H323-AXWV-SKFZ-DSVB2
 which appears to be your Bter deposit address. I just sent 1.23456789NXT to it, we'll see where it goes. I suspect it will go to NXT-LVKY-Q9KY-5Q2Z-AV9JA, which is labeled as Bterhot but maybe the amount is too low.
 NXT-L7EX-CN4P-FFXB-72VMP
 which appears to be your mixing account. if anyone looks here http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=NXT-L7EX-CN4P-FFXB-72VMP&c=USD you can see all kinds of pass through payments a short while after, but not the exact same, so its not a simple deposit bot.
Then these funds from 72VMP go to NXT-FZX8-TG5C-65HL-59J5VNXT-XBSR-PC7M-N2P5-72YR7,  and NXT-TC9P-MUDA-BMSZ-6Q5XT along with that same Bter deposit address.

Here is the wierd part.
NXT-FZX8-TG5C-65HL-59J5V  http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=NXT-FZX8-TG5C-65HL-59J5V&c=USD has taken the 145k nxt sent to it from 5HH5Q and 72VMP and bought 142K shares in ACH.

Same with NXT-XBSR-PC7M-N2P5-72YR7 http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=NXT-XBSR-PC7M-N2P5-72YR7&c=USD , received a lot of NXT from 5HH5Q and 72VMP and bought 147'414 shares in ACH.

Theres a few stray ones that go to NXT-TC9P-MUDA-BMSZ-6Q5XT but it only has bought 890 shares, so it almost doesnt matter at this point.
 http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=NXT-TC9P-MUDA-BMSZ-6Q5XT&c=USD

TLDR AND confusing? Did you sent NXT payments to a mixer and onto otherwise empty accounts to purchase 300,000 shares in your asset?
It sure looks this way.

I made a spread sheet if it helps people see.   https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1whEylR0buEZ72M8N0quPjQ5Cu_7rhWXzPcy1UgUPvaY/edit#gid=0
Please can we get some comments here?

edited for BOLD
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: printshop on October 24, 2014, 09:10:01 am
20K valuation is 0.17 per share for the WHOLE 5M shares.

Based on what she says she earns sure. Maybe $25,000 tops, but, now I am finding it difficult to trust sales figures too.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: whale on October 24, 2014, 09:18:31 am
20K valuation is 0.17 per share for the WHOLE 5M shares.

Based on what she says she earns sure. Maybe $25,000 tops, but, now I am finding it difficult to trust sales figures too.

I don't blame you. If true, these findings basically infer fraud.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 24, 2014, 11:33:43 am
Guys, I suspect Heather has stopped viewing this thread.  I wouldn't expect a response from her.  I'd like to think ACH is working on a different communication avenue for their investors.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: trollstocker on October 24, 2014, 12:43:55 pm
Guys, I suspect Heather has stopped viewing this thread.  I wouldn't expect a response from her.  I'd like to think ACH is working on a different communication avenue for their investors.

Odd that ACH had 4 times the dollar volume traded over SUPERNET WTF???
https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_ach
http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 24, 2014, 12:51:44 pm
Guys, I suspect Heather has stopped viewing this thread.  I wouldn't expect a response from her.  I'd like to think ACH is working on a different communication avenue for their investors.

Odd that ACH had 4 times the dollar volume traded over SUPERNET WTF???
https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_ach
http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/

They're good at marketing? lol
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 24, 2014, 12:54:35 pm
Hey heather

 i've been doing some inspecting and I have seen some weird stuff. Maybe you can explain, and also maybe the other people in this thread can help?

 http://www.nxtreporting.com/?ac=NXT-V9ND-E489-AXUL-5HH5Q is your main account. holds 4.12M shares.
 From that account there are outgoing transactions totally 737584NXT

 Those transactions go mostly to two accounts.
NXT-H323-AXWV-SKFZ-DSVB2
 which appears to be your Bter deposit address. I just sent 1.23456789NXT to it, we'll see where it goes. I suspect it will go to NXT-LVKY-Q9KY-5Q2Z-AV9JA, which is labeled as Bterhot but maybe the amount is too low.
 NXT-L7EX-CN4P-FFXB-72VMP
 which appears to be your mixing account. if anyone looks here http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=NXT-L7EX-CN4P-FFXB-72VMP&c=USD you can see all kinds of pass through payments a short while after, but not the exact same, so its not a simple deposit bot.
Then these funds from 72VMP go to NXT-FZX8-TG5C-65HL-59J5VNXT-XBSR-PC7M-N2P5-72YR7,  and NXT-TC9P-MUDA-BMSZ-6Q5XT along with that same Bter deposit address.

Here is the wierd part.
NXT-FZX8-TG5C-65HL-59J5V  http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=NXT-FZX8-TG5C-65HL-59J5V&c=USD has taken the 145k nxt sent to it from 5HH5Q and 72VMP and bought 142K shares in ACH.

Same with NXT-XBSR-PC7M-N2P5-72YR7 http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=NXT-XBSR-PC7M-N2P5-72YR7&c=USD , received a lot of NXT from 5HH5Q and 72VMP and bought 147'414 shares in ACH.

Theres a few stray ones that go to NXT-TC9P-MUDA-BMSZ-6Q5XT but it only has bought 890 shares, so it almost doesnt matter at this point.
 http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=NXT-TC9P-MUDA-BMSZ-6Q5XT&c=USD

TLDR AND confusing? Did you sent NXT payments to a mixer and onto otherwise empty accounts to purchase 300,000 shares in your asset?
It sure looks this way.

I made a spread sheet if it helps people see.   https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1whEylR0buEZ72M8N0quPjQ5Cu_7rhWXzPcy1UgUPvaY/edit#gid=0
Please can we get some comments here?

edited for BOLD

After cogitating on this data a bit, I'd like to offer my own conjecture: ACH paid out salary to some of their employees.  Those employees took their personal salary, and purchased shares in ACH.

I'm sure this happens with other businesses on the NXT AE.

PS  I'm very curious as to what set off this attack on Altcoin Herald.  They've been set upon in the past couple weeks.  It's like some members of the community are holding a grudge against them.  Could it be because they are a competitor to SuperNET News, since they are one of two cryptomedia outlet businesses on the NXT AE?  I certainly hope this isn't some form of corporate sabotage or a personal vendetta by influential individuals...That gives NXT AE a bad rep, and pushes new business away.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 24, 2014, 02:02:38 pm
After cogitating on this data a bit, I'd like to offer my own conjecture: ACH paid out salary to some of their employees.  Those employees took their personal salary, and purchased shares in ACH.

I'm sure this happens with other businesses on the NXT AE.

PS  I'm very curious as to what set off this attack on Altcoin Herald.  They've been set upon in the past couple weeks.  It's like some members of the community are holding a grudge against them.  Could it be because they are a competitor to SuperNET News, since they are one of two cryptomedia outlet businesses on the NXT AE?  I certainly hope this isn't some form of corporate sabotage or a personal vendetta by influential individuals...That gives NXT AE a bad rep, and pushes new business away.

Skky that is a good thought, but the accounts are not so straight forwards.

5HH5Q is the Main Acct. We'll call it A
A couple the payments go from A to B or C, but most of the time they go from A to M, the Mixer, then onto B, C, or Bter.
Sometimes deposits go from B and C to the same Bter deposit account.

59J5V is the account called B
Look at the payments sent to http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=NXT-FZX8-TG5C-65HL-59J5V&c=USD
70k in the last week of September over 10-12 payments,
70k in the first week of October, over 10-12 payments,
and then 10/11 the payments go from round numbers, to weird numbers with many decimals, both in the sending and the receiving. 
For one more week, then once the ~150k is there, the payments stop.

72YR7  is the Blue Machine named account lets call it C
it follows the same patterns. Exactly. Differing amounts, but same weeks of activity.

IF THIS is employee payment, it sure is a sketchy way to do it.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: printshop on October 24, 2014, 02:06:24 pm
PS  I'm very curious as to what set off this attack on Altcoin Herald.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrwjiO1MCVs

Edit: Oh wow, just caught your reference to SNN and looked it up. Very interesting.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 24, 2014, 03:10:57 pm
Questioning "agendas" when i point out accounting irregularities is head in the sand behavior.
Just like with funbot.
I for one don't have any shares or belief in SNN at this point.
I see that the ach website does work daily . I just also see a lot of shady maneuvering.
Also the earlier reference to Heather not checking this thread anymore? Why not? This is her Ann thread. This is her JOB to follow up.
Or is that another agenda based assumption?
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 24, 2014, 03:57:43 pm
In my case, my head isn't in the sand toward ACH nor toward NXTinspect nor toward any other individuals or companies involved in the inquisition of ACH. To not question the agenda against ACH would be "putting my head in the sand" (to use your words) towards those who are on a crusade against ACH. It's all seeming very...abnormal to me.

PS after everything with FunBot this week, it turns out my intuition on him was correct: he was a good guy put into shit circumstances and he made his investors whole. That's more than has happened with the other assets that went sour on here. I question FunBot's ability to choose business partners, but I do not question his intent toward the community.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 24, 2014, 04:00:50 pm
PS I've made no assumptions, only bringing to light some counterpoints, Jef. Since this thread was filling with a single viewpoint, I figured it would be best to post a counterbalance so that people can get a well-rounded view of the scenario, and make investing decisions based on critical thinking on a comprehensive dataset.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 24, 2014, 04:11:42 pm
PPS If I was in Heather's shoes, I'd be reluctant to participate in this thread anymore. I would feel like I'm being "driven out of town" by certain elements. I see the activity here as being the virtual equivalent of entering somebody's store and starting to call them thieves, liars, etc, before all of their customers. No ettiquete.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: whatnxt on October 24, 2014, 04:26:09 pm
Personally, I would like to hear Heather's side of the story.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: kseistrup on October 24, 2014, 04:27:11 pm
Personally, I would like to hear Heather's side of the story.

+1
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 24, 2014, 04:39:00 pm
I would as well.  I don't know if that's going to happen here.  It might be best to watch AltcoinHerald itself.  They have their own forums and own means of communicating to the public.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: pf on October 24, 2014, 04:44:35 pm
If it doesn't happen here, then I think this thread should be re-titled scam.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 24, 2014, 05:00:13 pm
If it doesn't happen here, then I think this thread should be re-titled scam.

Or just lock the thread.  I personally don't think ACH's offering is a scam.  And they're trading well on Polo.  I'm pretty sure they have farther reaching ties to the community than just here.  It might look bad if we label it a scam without concrete evidence that ACH has taken the money and ran with it.  They've paid out one round of dividends, and I would be very surprised if they didn't continue to pay - especially with the new investors that they're acquiring through Polo.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 24, 2014, 05:02:38 pm
I came across this article at ACH just now.  Certainly ironic, given the discussion in this thread! lol

https://altcoinherald.com/crypto-enthusiasts-really-believe-decentralization/
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 24, 2014, 05:05:52 pm
In my case, my head isn't in the sand toward ACH nor toward NXTinspect nor toward any other individuals or companies involved in the inquisition of ACH. To not question the agenda against ACH would be "putting my head in the sand" (to use your words) towards those who are on a crusade against ACH. It's all seeming very...abnormal to me.

PS after everything with FunBot this week, it turns out my intuition on him was correct: he was a good guy put into shit circumstances and he made his investors whole. That's more than has happened with the other assets that went sour on here. I question FunBot's ability to choose business partners, but I do not question his intent toward the community.

re head in sand. I never meant your head directly. I meant the community.
My gut reaction and posts re FunBot, was that he was a mostly good guy and things went bad. He redeemed himself but the tone was always sketchy. The price changes, the sorry goodbye, all sketchy. And then look what happened. Redeeming a disaster does not absolve the issuer.

MY POINT > is the community's head is in the sand REGARDING these tell tale signs.
Dont communicate in your own thread . RED FLAG
Move funds from one account to a mixer to two more that then buy YOUR asset . RED FLAG

If you dont want to see these and prefer to think that others 'have agendas' for pointing out RED FLAGS then at least you should do your own due diligence and ask Heather yourself.

I'll gladly bring all these facts to the altcoin herald forums, and I am still wishing that it turns out. I would like nothing more than to give her a glowing review and help her repair this, IF these transactions are proven legitimate.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 24, 2014, 05:06:51 pm
Personally, I would like to hear Heather's side of the story.
Me too.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: printshop on October 24, 2014, 05:11:24 pm
I came across this article at ACH just now.  Certainly ironic, given the discussion in this thread! lol

https://altcoinherald.com/crypto-enthusiasts-really-believe-decentralization/

Nice article, but the photo had me scratching my head. Let me guess. Baby pictures ;-)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 24, 2014, 05:16:46 pm
If you dont want to see these and prefer to think that others 'have agendas' for pointing out RED FLAGS then at least you should do your own due diligence and ask Heather yourself.

I don't know if you're talking to me specifically, but I thought I'd respond to this point in case: I have.  I've had a lot of conversations with her.  I like her.  That's why I invested in ACH - I invest in people, not businesses.  to me, businesses are a concept abstracted from the people that compose them.  It's my faith in the people involved in the business that compels me to invest.

I'd also like to point out that your red flags aren't necessarily my red flags.  You're simply more vocal about pointing out your red flags.  Your investment style and mine are quite different.  It doesn't mean one is "better" than the other.  But it does mean that not everybody will agree with what you consider a red flag - It's more appropriate to say that "this is a red flag to me" than assuming your red flags are universally applicable to any other investor's style.  So, it doesn't mean the community's head is in the sand - it may simply mean that there are many investors who don't agree with your style.  That's all.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 24, 2014, 05:24:28 pm
I went to the forums here
https://forum.altcoinherald.com/

I see no threads on her issued Asset. Where is the ANN there? Is there even a conversation?

And in regards to POLO..

24-hour Volume: 35.55114147 BTC / 572454.66669095 ACH


572k shares traded!!!  IN ONE DAY!!

this is the top ten accounts on the AE
Asset Issuer                            4'167'373   83.35%
Blue Machine                           147'714   2.95% (Account C)
NXT-FZX8-TG5C-65HL-59J5V   132'621   2.65%  (Account B)
NXT-R8SQ-TUEM-DTHQ-7ATA3   120'568   2.41% (Poloniex Deposit Account, which we cannot tell if it is all one persons, or the total wallet)
NXT-C4SZ-HDS5-HG8X-6LFLJ   94'116   1.88% ( OH LOOK>>>>  Its another Fake buying account)
Same pattern of big deposits from late September to Early November, Same pattern of buying nothing but ACH. That brings the hidden ACH in sock puppet accounts to 400K
Check recieved funds http://nxtreporting.com/?a=NXT-C4SZ-HDS5-HG8X-6LFLJ&c=USD
NXT-GLK7-5C6C-5UDM-2EKZL   39'650   0.79%
NXT-KUQJ-YCEN-5KL4-B948S   25'000   0.50%
NXT-8DUK-H4NF-YSJW-EX8GV   21'784   0.44%
NXT-HG8Z-PZ5L-KD6T-HJ8FG   20'000   0.40%

So if 4.1M is in the issuer, and 400k is in the sock puppets, that 4.5M controlled by ACH directly.
Now we have more than the total outstanding shares trading in one day.  RED FLAG


OR MAYBE the 125K in the Polo account is just being churned around. BUY BUY BUY SELL SELL SELL BUY BUY BUY.

I wonder if anyone can get the mods from Poloniex in on this.  ;)
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 24, 2014, 05:28:03 pm
updating my tracking doc with account D
 follow along..

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1whEylR0buEZ72M8N0quPjQ5Cu_7rhWXzPcy1UgUPvaY/edit?usp=sharing
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 24, 2014, 05:36:16 pm
I wish I could post a "rolling eyes" meme, but I'm on my phone. Lol
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 24, 2014, 05:38:56 pm
I wish I could post a "rolling eyes" meme, but I'm on my phone. Lol

just put your head back in the cool dark sand and stop reading this thread then.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 24, 2014, 05:46:08 pm
I started to find the shares going to NXT-R8SQ-TUEM-DTHQ-7ATA3 at Polo.

Next I will group those all nice and tight for everyone to see.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 24, 2014, 05:54:24 pm
Naw, I'll keep watching to see what your sleuthing turns up. ::needs a soda and popcorn::
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 24, 2014, 05:58:16 pm
I hope it's less scary than the ark of the covenant but more exciting than geraldos vault.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 24, 2014, 06:11:38 pm
Lol If you find the Ark, make sure to read the instruction manual before opening it! Lol
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: chanc3r on October 24, 2014, 07:28:11 pm

PS  I'm very curious as to what set off this attack on Altcoin Herald.  They've been set upon in the past couple weeks.  It's like some members of the community are holding a grudge against them.  Could it be because they are a competitor to SuperNET News, since they are one of two cryptomedia outlet businesses on the NXT AE?  I certainly hope this isn't some form of corporate sabotage or a personal vendetta by influential individuals...That gives NXT AE a bad rep, and pushes new business away.

Skyy the way you have stated this creates an implication and as NXTinspect have posted on this topic I will respond to it.

On behalf of NXTinspect I am going to respond that our work is independent and based on concerns raised in the community and completely unbiased, these asset movements and volumes for ACH are unusual and a valid item to bring to peoples attention.

NXTinspect have not said ACH is a scam we are simply advising that some of the market trading statistics for this asset should be viewed with caution.

Simply posting some information about asset trading is not an attack on ACH and frankly we have not done this for another asset because we have yet to find these patterns for any other AE asset, and if we do we will be asking similar questions in their threads too.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 24, 2014, 08:13:12 pm
Nice official response from NXTinspect but I don't think I specifically called you guys out. I don't even know if Jef or Whale is acting in an official capacity or not when they were posting in this thread. Thanks for posting NXTinspect's stance, I guess?
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 24, 2014, 11:20:37 pm
Nice official response from NXTinspect but I don't think I specifically called you guys out. I don't even know if Jef or Whale is acting in an official capacity or not when they were posting in this thread. Thanks for posting NXTinspect's stance, I guess?

I don't think a decentralized community needs an official response.  I am a community member who is concerned about the trading patterns that I have seen.
I am also an Alpha enough person that I will not stand for these actions, to the extent that I have joined up with two like minded individuals in Chanc3r and Whale, and formed a business to help the community clarify situations.
We are not on a witch hunt, we are looking for clarification. If ACH were to reply, with an explanation, I will be the first to walk through every transaction with them, and understand what they did.
I would also proffer, free of charge, helpful suggestions and seek to make this web clearer.

If I voice an opinion on twitter, or the forums, or in skype, it can be assumed that is my personal opinion. If that opinion involves asset values, actions, or maneuvers, good or bad, the members of the community would be right to assume that my personal opinion and my NXTinspect opinion might concur.

But in the case of these accounts, I expressed questions, and requested clarity.
I did not say scam. I did not say fake.

Skky, I know I have expressed more sincere opinions about ACH to you in person, but that was our personal chat. Not a forum post. So take what I present, as its presented please.


Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 24, 2014, 11:23:03 pm
And on the subject of paying dividends to shares still held, also remember that your "friend" Heather has been paying out dividends to the 500k or 600K shares that she secretly owns too.

So before she was keeping 86%, now its more like 90%.

Tomorrow I'm going to research this backwards, and find out how many shares are actually owned by INVESTORS, not sockpuppets.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: TwinWinNerD on October 24, 2014, 11:23:54 pm
I don't even understand the motivation behind this. if they fake 35 BTC of trading volume each day, they will lose 35*2*0,002BTC per day = 0.14 BTC lost due to trading fees.

Strange
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 24, 2014, 11:31:57 pm
If I voice an opinion on twitter, or the forums, or in skype, it can be assumed that is my personal opinion. If that opinion involves asset values, actions, or maneuvers, good or bad, the members of the community would be right to assume that my personal opinion and my NXTinspect opinion might concur.

But in the case of these accounts, I expressed questions, and requested clarity.
I did not say scam. I did not say fake.

Skky, I know I have expressed more sincere opinions about ACH to you in person, but that was our personal chat. Not a forum post. So take what I present, as its presented please.

Okay, that makes sense.  It muddied things for me a bit when Chanc3r replied in an official capacity since, in his words, "NXTinspect has posted on this topic."  But I never got the impression that you or Whale was posting an official capacity.  So, now I'm confused about Chanc3r's response. :/

I never said that you specifically said "scam" or "fake".  There was at least one other individual in this thread that posted "fraud", someone posted "thievery", something along those lines...there were many people in this thread who began making accusations against ACH.  That's why my post about my impression that "ACH is being set upon" and I wonder why.  It seems like a lot of interest has been taken in them, and a lot of effort has been spent on scrutinizing their activity.  Seems unwarranted to me, when that effort could be spent on building up one's own work rather than tearing down somebody else's work.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 24, 2014, 11:32:19 pm
I don't even understand the motivation behind this. if they fake 35 BTC of trading volume each day, they will lose 35*2*0,002BTC per day = 0.14 BTC lost due to trading fees.

Strange

Lots of strange activity around here...
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 24, 2014, 11:33:18 pm
And on the subject of paying dividends to shares still held, also remember that your "friend" Heather has been paying out dividends to the 500k or 600K shares that she secretly owns too.

You don't have to put the quotes around friend.  I really do consider her a friend.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 24, 2014, 11:34:49 pm
You might consider her a friend but I wonder if she does the same for you
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 24, 2014, 11:36:23 pm
I don't even understand the motivation behind this. if they fake 35 BTC of trading volume each day, they will lose 35*2*0,002BTC per day = 0.14 BTC lost due to trading fees.

Strange
Yeah at least the 500-1000nxt transactions pay the forgers.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 24, 2014, 11:37:50 pm
You might consider her a friend but I wonder if she does the same for you

Sure seems that way.  One could ask that about anybody though?
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 24, 2014, 11:59:48 pm
And on the subject of paying dividends to shares still held, also remember that your "friend" Heather has been paying out dividends to the 500k or 600K shares that she secretly owns too.

So before she was keeping 86%, now its more like 90%.

Tomorrow I'm going to research this backwards, and find out how many shares are actually owned by INVESTORS, not sockpuppets.

I thought about this a bit more.  I'm not sure what you mean by secretly, if ACH paid her a salary and then she purchased ACH assets with that personal money?  Under the model that I suggested, where ACH paid out salary to employees, and then employees purchased ACH assets with their salary, wouldn't it make sense for those employees to receive dividends on the ACH assets that they personally hold?  I'd argue that personally holding assets creates additional incentive to perform for the company, since they would have a vested interest in seeing the business grow.  I believe James has used this same argument before.

I'd like to state again that I'm putting forth speculation from a different viewpoint for consideration here.  I don't know for certain that this is what is happening, just as anybody else who is only looking at the transactions can't know for certain what is occurring.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: jefdiesel on October 25, 2014, 12:05:03 am
Right but now I've found 5 accounts holding 10% of shares all paid in bursts over three weeks from one account, via a mixing account,  and these accounts all bought ach on the market,  and nothing else and kept zero nxt.
If employees wanted nxt why didn't she just transfer the shares?
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: trollstocker on October 25, 2014, 01:06:17 am
And on the subject of paying dividends to shares still held, also remember that your "friend" Heather has been paying out dividends to the 500k or 600K shares that she secretly owns too.

So before she was keeping 86%, now its more like 90%.

Tomorrow I'm going to research this backwards, and find out how many shares are actually owned by INVESTORS, not sockpuppets.

I thought about this a bit more.  I'm not sure what you mean by secretly, if ACH paid her a salary and then she purchased ACH assets with that personal money?  Under the model that I suggested, where ACH paid out salary to employees, and then employees purchased ACH assets with their salary, wouldn't it make sense for those employees to receive dividends on the ACH assets that they personally hold?  I'd argue that personally holding assets creates additional incentive to perform for the company, since they would have a vested interest in seeing the business grow.  I believe James has used this same argument before.

I'd like to state again that I'm putting forth speculation from a different viewpoint for consideration here.  I don't know for certain that this is what is happening, just as anybody else who is only looking at the transactions can't know for certain what is occurring.

Well I am going on the record here that i also like Heather..and i will also go on the record that if there was ever a forensic audit done with lots of accounts on the AE there would be much hanky panky going
on there..IMO..I have watch CERTAIN assets sorta pumped and sold out within seconds of being released
and it was very interesting who managed to buy them first! and many unhappy nxters were left scratching their heads

I will leave it at that..and yes i think WAY to much attention is given to this non issue..maybe she was just trying to make a market to get some interest...because she is definitely not pumping the price and dumping it

it happens every day on wall street between market makers I call it swapping spit and it is done ALL the time.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: whale on October 25, 2014, 03:06:58 am
Heather is a lovely person so I understand why she is being so heavily defended by you skky but she has not put down the allegations with an explanation (the current investor story has been debunked). Saying NXTinspect has an agenda is a poor way to respond to genuine concerns for the community. For the record both Jef and chanc3r hold/ held ACH and I was in talks with Heather to buy a large position (before this was uncovered). NXTinspect was created to help the community in these situations. We are merely stating that there appears to be suspicious activity.

Not responding to concerns is a red flag for me. If she cannot be honest about these accounts, what makes you believe she is being honest about income, traffic etc?





Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: altcoinherald on October 25, 2014, 10:32:53 am
Hi everyone~

I think that everyone has given their thoughts on the ACH asset.

I really don't have the time to go 'tit for tat' with all of the things that were said by everyone.

AltcoinHerald.com has had a web presence LONG before we ever came here - and we wanted to offer a 'win-win' revenue share to anyone that was interested in it.

It's been structured in the same format from the beginning. The 'inspectors' understood the payout structure, as it's described in full on their page, so I'm not sure how it was misunderstood by Jef - one of the lead inspectors.

I had second thoughts about verifying my identity when I asked for a link to their information sharing policies and they couldn't/wouldn't provide them. Shortly thereafter this thread caught fire..

Back to the subject of business, our second dividend will be issued on October 31, 2014.

Any shares that have been purchased on Poloniex will receive dividends, so it doesn't make a difference if your shares are purchased here or there.

As always, if you'd like to stay abreast of developments, I ask that you refer to our official page here going forward. https://alth.co/rDPPI  (https://alth.co/rDPPI)

I will update this thread with any pertinent and important information as it becomes available.

Thanks for your consideration and have a great day!
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: BigTed on October 25, 2014, 10:42:35 am
Heather is a lovely person so I understand why she is being so heavily defended by you skky but she has not put down the allegations with an explanation (the current investor story has been debunked). Saying NXTinspect has an agenda is a poor way to respond to genuine concerns for the community. For the record both Jef and chanc3r hold/ held ACH and I was in talks with Heather to buy a large position (before this was uncovered). NXTinspect was created to help the community in these situations. We are merely stating that there appears to be suspicious activity.

Not responding to concerns is a red flag for me. If she cannot be honest about these accounts, what makes you believe she is being honest about income, traffic etc?

NXTInspect is a failed asset with a ridiculous market cap of roughly $60k. It's a bad idea that has no support from anyone. ACH is a well-known website that has been operating since February. In that time span we've attracted 10,000 social media supporters, countless pageviews and many sponsors.

How dare YOU continue to make baseless accusations in our thread. NXTInspect has done relatively NOTHING at all in the world of cryptocurrency to merit any valuation at all.

You should probably focus your attention on your own revenue-less asset. ACH has also been doing our share of investigation of 'assets' on  your 'exchange.'

You're way too comfortable attacking Heather and you need to find a new hobby or just get to work and accomplish something real.

P.S. your 'appeal to authority' by giving yourself the inane title of 'Inspector' and your cultish 'for us or against us' way of communicating is winning you no fans in the broader world of crypto.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: printshop on October 25, 2014, 11:10:53 am
One of the big problems with blockchain technology is that it isn't actually anonymous. And people sometimes make the mistake of assuming that the balance of accounts on the blockchain is reflective of the actual balance of accounts in a business.

I have spent a long time considering the ACH situation, and I have proven my point above with the "KNS Holdings" system; which shows that the balance of accounts on the blockchain does not reflect what a business is selling on the market.

The problem with ACH is that while KNS holdings is a very well-defined account, with well-defined rules, investors are confused by the ACH system. There is a lack of transparency over the internal system Heather is using to keep track of these shares, and investors are asking for some of that old-time ACH transparency.

Maybe Heather doesn't need to respond. This is Crypto. Heather is free to ignore the questions. But attacking people who bring the problem to light is dangerous. I was impressed with whale's post;

"Saying NXTinspect has an agenda is a poor way to respond to genuine concerns for the community. For the record both Jef and chanc3r hold/ held ACH and I was in talks with Heather to buy a large position..." --whale (https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=5042.msg122640#msg122640)

So, what needs to be done now? Nothing? We've had our say, Heather has indicated she will ignore the complaints. People have been made aware. Maybe it's time to back off now and let the smart money do what it wants. If Heather somehow gets over this scandal, more power to her.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: BigTed on October 25, 2014, 12:03:35 pm
One of the big problems with blockchain technology is that it isn't actually anonymous. And people sometimes make the mistake of assuming that the balance of accounts on the blockchain is reflective of the actual balance of accounts in a business.

I have spent a long time considering the ACH situation, and I have proven my point above with the "KNS Holdings" system; which shows that the balance of accounts on the blockchain does not reflect what a business is selling on the market.

The problem with ACH is that while KNS holdings is a very well-defined account, with well-defined rules, investors are confused by the ACH system. There is a lack of transparency over the internal system Heather is using to keep track of these shares, and investors are asking for some of that old-time ACH transparency.

Maybe Heather doesn't need to respond. This is Crypto. Heather is free to ignore the questions. But attacking people who bring the problem to light is dangerous. I was impressed with whale's post;

"Saying NXTinspect has an agenda is a poor way to respond to genuine concerns for the community. For the record both Jef and chanc3r hold/ held ACH and I was in talks with Heather to buy a large position..." --whale (https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=5042.msg122640#msg122640)

So, what needs to be done now? Nothing? We've had our say, Heather has indicated she will ignore the complaints. People have been made aware. Maybe it's time to back off now and let the smart money do what it wants. If Heather somehow gets over this scandal, more power to her.

You're a comical guy with way too many opinions considering your track record of failed ideas and assets.

Since you're so quick to criticize others, it's worth pointing out that you initially started on Coinsortium.co with this description: "KPS (Kongzi Print Shop) is a personal services education company serving the unique needs of ESL students in China and Japan."

Since that time you've moved on to becoming a 'News Services' and an asset 'Inspector' and I believe you're also buying buildings?

My advice to you is the same as I offered 'whale.' Focus on your own failed assets. Every time you point the finger at someone, you'll find there's two fingers pointing back.

BTW, since you're probably not clear on the backstory, here it is.

'whale' tried to setup some strange deal using other people's money in order to acquire 60% of the ACH asset at what he hoped would be a greatly reduced price. He wanted confidentiality, for obvious purposes. He planned on doing almost no work and collecting everyone's cash on order to pay it. He would also get 25% of ACH's monthly revenue share while he sat around like true royalty and an overpaid middleman.

There's no question that 'whale' understood the terms of the deal just fine. In his brain-dead review he wrote that it would take 9 years to return a profit. That means he understood that 5 million tokens represented 40% of our revenues. But he apparently doesn't understand that  there's something called a 'growth rate' which comes from improving services with additional capital.

It's clear that 'Kongzi' and 'NXTInspector' have zero credible qualifications as asset inspectors or as information providers. If you want any more information from us, you will need to produce your information policies.

Otherwise we're dealing with self appointed 'inspectors/trolls' who are casually attacking others.

Stick to your own thread and your own asset. You would make more money that way.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: whale on October 25, 2014, 12:35:31 pm
Hi everyone~

I think that everyone has given their thoughts on the ACH asset.

I really don't have the time to go 'tit for tat' with all of the things that were said by everyone.

AltcoinHerald.com has had a web presence LONG before we ever came here - and we wanted to offer a 'win-win' revenue share to anyone that was interested in it.

It's been structured in the same format from the beginning. The 'inspectors' understood the payout structure, as it's described in full on their page, so I'm not sure how it was misunderstood by Jef - one of the lead inspectors.

I had second thoughts about verifying my identity when I asked for a link to their information sharing policies and they couldn't/wouldn't provide them. Shortly thereafter this thread caught fire..

Back to the subject of business, our second dividend will be issued on October 31, 2014.

Any shares that have been purchased on Poloniex will receive dividends, so it doesn't make a difference if your shares are purchased here or there.

As always, if you'd like to stay abreast of developments, I ask that you refer to our official page here going forward. https://alth.co/rDPPI  (https://alth.co/rDPPI)

I will update this thread with any pertinent and important information as it becomes available.

Thanks for your consideration and have a great day!

It is your asset, you are free to answer what you like about it. Jef just put up some information that looked suspicious. However, as you can see, it is not only us who is concerned.

I had second thoughts about verifying my identity when I asked for a link to their information sharing policies and they couldn't/wouldn't provide them. Shortly thereafter this thread caught fire..

You replied 4 days ago... Your thread was catching fire long before then. Chanc3r is still working on a privacy policy as we need it for verification. By simply having an ardeva profile, you almost fulfill the full requirement.

PS. Creating a profile 'BigTed' to abuse everyone's responses isn't a good look. When the account was created today, uses terms such as 'our, we etc' and knows private conversations between yourself and I, it doesn't leave much to the imagination... I'm assuming it is your partner/ husband (based from the writing style)? They also may want to wait on more details for MEDIOS before making accusations. Currently only two people know the scope of the project, so I find it difficult to think that they know what they are talking about.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: Damelon on October 25, 2014, 12:49:28 pm
I'm going to weigh in here from my own background of communication and opine that when it comes to phrasing we have a LOT of work to do in our community.

Regardless of content, the way content is presented far outweighs the actual information communicated.

I've seen some pretty heavy emotionally laden labels being pulled out very quickly "RED FLAG", "Seems like a thief", "bad business practice", etc. etc.

No only in this thread, but also in other ones.

Now, even though there may be red flags (boy, there are many of those), do you really think that anyone is going to cooperate with you if you start out like that?
That's holding people at gun point to provide info with a bit "Or else" hovering above the entire transaction.

We really need to come at this from a way where it's clear we want to make the AE safe for investors, while at the same time acknowledging that not all people will cooperate.
Inspecting agencies need to build trust, too! They are start ups, just like the companies they are inspecting.
From an outsider perspective, I am a bit taken aback at the aggressive tone that is being taken. I completely get that you want to offer a service, but from an outsider perspective, I'm more than a little flabbergasted at the tone bóth of you are taking, towards the companies you are auditing, ánd towards each other.

The same also goes for the companies under scrutiny, by the way.
BigTed, I gather you are involved with ACH. You seem to be pissed off. Well, welcome to a community that has been screwed over a few times. You will have to allow for quite a bit of suspicion.

Some people will trust you, but you will have to understand that not everything will be taken for granted. Wórk with the people here. Levelling attacks on a personal level néver works, even if you feel they were levelled at you. That's a one way ticket to the playground for all of us and doesn't help either you ór us.

I am not saying in any way that something is right or amiss here with ACH. I don't have the background to judge this either way. I am merely commenting on a very harmful way of communicating.

We're trying to build a system with checks and balances here. That takes TIME. We cannot expect inspecting agencies to have the trust that they want to get there immediately. Personally, I would opt for both of them to find a form where their info is easily available in a "descriptive" form for everyone and nót having them barge into threads proclaiming their positions.

Due diligence on the part of buyers is good, but if people want to disregard red flags (for ANY) reason, that's up to them and them alone. Any other form will turn the rating agencies into committees dispensing dogma. The info needs to be readily available, but if I, as an adult, want to go ahead anyway, I would not feel comfortable by being branded an idiot for ignoring red flags. That's mý responsibility.

In conclusion, I would like to see if we can define our goals much more clear here. Are we trying to "out bad actors" or are we trying to "make this a better environment for trade"? The first one now seems the case and is a very narrow aim, for me. The first goal is a means to get to the second one I stated and means a much broader scope of vision. We need to build skills across a much broader spectrum to get there.

If it seems like I am handling our slaps all over the place in this post, then you are correct. I've read a few of these threads now and am not at all happy with the tone that is evolving. Any Asset that has the least problems tends to devolve into a kind of witch hunt where, within a few hours or days, there is absolutely no space anymore to set things aright or hear the others voice. That does not help in any way, regardless of what is happening. That pisses me off, as I think we have a potential chunk of solid gold on our hands here, and I feel it's being destroyed by pettiness while it should be being built with professionalism.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 25, 2014, 12:58:47 pm
Saying NXTinspect has an agenda is a poor way to respond to genuine concerns for the community. For the record both Jef and chanc3r hold/ held ACH and I was in talks with Heather to buy a large position (before this was uncovered). NXTinspect was created to help the community in these situations. We are merely stating that there appears to be suspicious activity.

My concerns are just as genuine as yours, Whale.  My concerns, in this regard, being that members of the Nxt Community need to find a balance between welcoming business on the Nxt platform and protecting the interests of community members.  Right now, I see the pendulum swung very far toward protecting the interests of community members - not only in this thread, but in several others.  It seems to me that the current zeitgeist here on the forums is to be irrationally suspicious, put existing businesses through the ringer, make disrespectful accusations against them(in their own thread!), disregard business etiquette, and spin inconclusive data with a slant toward guilty until proven innocent.

I posted an additional viewpoint here in ACH's thread to attempt to counterbalance the FUD that was prevalent.  I did something similar on the FunBot thread - so, it's not that I'm specifically "defending"(your words) ACH.  My hope is that anyone who is considering doing business on the Nxt platform, that comes across this thread, will see that there is at least one member of this community that will give their business the benefit of the doubt when they see blockchain activity who's intention and structure isn't readily apparent to them.

I'd also like to mention that I never stated NXTinspect has an agenda.  You are misinterpreting my words and intention.  What I stated was:

"PS  I'm very curious as to what set off this attack on Altcoin Herald.  They've been set upon in the past couple weeks.  It's like some members of the community are holding a grudge against them.  Could it be because they are a competitor to SuperNET News, since they are one of two cryptomedia outlet businesses on the NXT AE?  I certainly hope this isn't some form of corporate sabotage or a personal vendetta by influential individuals...That gives NXT AE a bad rep, and pushes new business away."

And I'd like to state again that my concerns are just as valid as yours.  Jef has used the blockchain in his analysis of ACH.  I have used information confided in me by different individuals, my observations of recent actions taken by some community members, and what I know of various individual's personality traits to formulate a scenario in which the above could fit the data that I've gathered.  I never said that the scenario that I described above is a certainty or that I'm even confident in it.  I'm scared that scenario is happening, because I'm beginning to question who I can trust to partner in business with and who I can call friend.  I'm also scared that my own businesses will be set upon by the asset inquisitors, and I'll be called on to prove my innocence after they have convinced the community that I'm guilty by spinning blockchain data or my own business methodology against me.  My fear makes me less inclined to offer my business opportunities on the Nxt Platform.

I'm a person oriented toward solutions.  That what I do all day at my 9-5 - meet with customers, actively listen to their problems, and design a solution that meets their requirements.  Since they are unable to build our software themselves, I find myself in a position of having power over how they perform their day to day work activity.  I see that a major responsibility - I can make it more difficult for them, or I can ease their burden.  I don't assume that I know what's best for them because I don't walk in their shoes day in and day out.  That's why I go to them to ask them how they would like to see the system work.  Due to technical limitations, I can't always architect a solution to their specific requirements, but I get as close as I can to meeting those requirements.  And place a ticket with our vendor to add features to address what I can't.

Now I'm going to speak directly to NXTinspect, and also to KNS(though to a smaller degree).  I preface my thoughts with the above statement to give you background on my methodology and mindset: I haven't seen the same conscientiousness, delicacy, and self-discipline from the Nxt Community's two self-appointed asset review businesses as what I strive to demonstrate for my customers.  I feel burned by that - I originally supported the founding principles of NXTinspect, but as I've seen how those principles have been executed in actuality, I no longer support their efforts.  It seems that both review organizations rushed to develop their methodologies without solicitation of input from those who would be subjected to their practices.  That's where I cry foul.  I believe there are several other members of the Nxt Community who feel burned by how the review businesses conduct themselves.

As a solution for the above, in an attempt to build bridges in the interest of the community, I propose that a thread be initiated to house a "town hall" meeting. (bolded for those who only skim)  The goal would be to generate an open dialogue between the three major stakeholders in protecting our community against those who would seek to abuse it: the investors, the businesses, and the review boards.  The pertinent posts to this topic is strew through-out several threads on the forums, making it exceedingly difficult to see the progression of the dialogue.  A "town hall" thread would make it simpler to follow the conversation and respond with one's own thoughts and feelings on the current topic in discussion.  Coming out of such a dialogue, I would hope that we'd achieve a consensus and a partnership among the stakeholders, in the interests of protecting our community in a way that the stakeholders can agree on.  We would each be responsible for inviting to the thread the parties that we think hold a stake in the outcome.

I'd like to see us all in this together, rather than squabbling about who's "right" and who's "wrong", and who's insinuating what, and who has what agendas.  We, as a community, are much stronger in solidarity than we are in factions.

I encourage anybody viewing this post to respond to the above proposal with a yes or no, that way I'll know if I should kick it off or not.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: printshop on October 25, 2014, 01:00:41 pm
...we're dealing with self appointed 'inspectors/trolls' who are casually attacking others.

I think you misread me as someone who thinks they're important. I'm no-one. I get that. That's why I just collect information and try not to spew too much opinion. I also agree with you that we're new and that it will take some time for us to learn how to add value. One thing I've learned is that a prolonged discussion of a company's faults belongs in it's own thread, not in the company's announcement thread. I don't think the discussion here belongs in this thread so I will make a new one. Good luck with ACH, as I said, what's been said is all on record. Time to move on?
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 25, 2014, 01:02:25 pm
I strongly agree with Damelon's sentiments.  I would like to think that a town hall meeting would help bridge the communication gap.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: BigTed on October 25, 2014, 01:03:46 pm
Hi everyone~

I think that everyone has given their thoughts on the ACH asset.

I really don't have the time to go 'tit for tat' with all of the things that were said by everyone.

AltcoinHerald.com has had a web presence LONG before we ever came here - and we wanted to offer a 'win-win' revenue share to anyone that was interested in it.

It's been structured in the same format from the beginning. The 'inspectors' understood the payout structure, as it's described in full on their page, so I'm not sure how it was misunderstood by Jef - one of the lead inspectors.

I had second thoughts about verifying my identity when I asked for a link to their information sharing policies and they couldn't/wouldn't provide them. Shortly thereafter this thread caught fire..

Back to the subject of business, our second dividend will be issued on October 31, 2014.

Any shares that have been purchased on Poloniex will receive dividends, so it doesn't make a difference if your shares are purchased here or there.

As always, if you'd like to stay abreast of developments, I ask that you refer to our official page here going forward. https://alth.co/rDPPI  (https://alth.co/rDPPI)

I will update this thread with any pertinent and important information as it becomes available.

Thanks for your consideration and have a great day!

It is your asset, you are free to answer what you like about it. Jef just put up some information that looked suspicious. However, as you can see, it is not only us who is concerned.

I had second thoughts about verifying my identity when I asked for a link to their information sharing policies and they couldn't/wouldn't provide them. Shortly thereafter this thread caught fire..

You replied 4 days ago... Your thread was catching fire long before then. Chanc3r is still working on a privacy policy as we need it for verification. By simply having an ardeva profile, you almost fulfill the full requirement.

PS. Creating a profile 'BigTed' to abuse everyone's responses isn't a good look. When the account was created today, uses terms such as 'our, we etc' and knows private conversations between yourself and I, it doesn't leave much to the imagination... You also may want to wait on more details for MEDIOS before making accusations. Currently only two people know the scope of the project, so I find it difficult to think that you know what you are talking about.

Once again you go on the wrong tangent and make another baseless accusation.

Obviously I'm involved with ACH and have been since February. I have an existing internet identity and I have no interest in sharing it with you for the purpose of arguing on this forum.

You seem to be conflating several issues. Once again, I feel you've aired your opinions. Everyone has heard your side of the story.

Move on. Your output of 10 reviews of under 100 words shows a work record where a lot left to be desired. Get out there and hustle and do some more reviews. You are not going to be able to sell a subscription to a 'service' where you basically post the information on a forum. You have a lot of work to do if you're looking to establish a revenue stream. Business these days is tough. It's not easy to 'push a button' and get rich.

My suggestion is once again to work on your own assets and improve the service you offer.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: trollstocker on October 25, 2014, 01:35:52 pm
I'm going to weigh in here from my own background of communication and opine that when it comes to phrasing we have a LOT of work to do in our community.

Regardless of content, the way content is presented far outweighs the actual information communicated.

I've seen some pretty heavy emotionally laden labels being pulled out very quickly "RED FLAG", "Seems like a thief", "bad business practice", etc. etc.

No only in this thread, but also in other ones.

Now, even though there may be red flags (boy, there are many of those), do you really think that anyone is going to cooperate with you if you start out like that?
That's holding people at gun point to provide info with a bit "Or else" hovering above the entire transaction.

We really need to come at this from a way where it's clear we want to make the AE safe for investors, while at the same time acknowledging that not all people will cooperate.
Inspecting agencies need to build trust, too! They are start ups, just like the companies they are inspecting.
From an outsider perspective, I am a bit taken aback at the aggressive tone that is being taken. I completely get that you want to offer a service, but from an outsider perspective, I'm more than a little flabbergasted at the tone bóth of you are taking, towards the companies you are auditing, ánd towards each other.

The same also goes for the companies under scrutiny, by the way.
BigTed, I gather you are involved with ACH. You seem to be pissed off. Well, welcome to a community that has been screwed over a few times. You will have to allow for quite a bit of suspicion.

Some people will trust you, but you will have to understand that not everything will be taken for granted. Wórk with the people here. Levelling attacks on a personal level néver works, even if you feel they were levelled at you. That's a one way ticket to the playground for all of us and doesn't help either you ór us.

I am not saying in any way that something is right or amiss here with ACH. I don't have the background to judge this either way. I am merely commenting on a very harmful way of communicating.

We're trying to build a system with checks and balances here. That takes TIME. We cannot expect inspecting agencies to have the trust that they want to get there immediately. Personally, I would opt for both of them to find a form where their info is easily available in a "descriptive" form for everyone and nót having them barge into threads proclaiming their positions.

Due diligence on the part of buyers is good, but if people want to disregard red flags (for ANY) reason, that's up to them and them alone. Any other form will turn the rating agencies into committees dispensing dogma. The info needs to be readily available, but if I, as an adult, want to go ahead anyway, I would not feel comfortable by being branded an idiot for ignoring red flags. That's mý responsibility.

In conclusion, I would like to see if we can define our goals much more clear here. Are we trying to "out bad actors" or are we trying to "make this a better environment for trade"? The first one now seems the case and is a very narrow aim, for me. The first goal is a means to get to the second one I stated and means a much broader scope of vision. We need to build skills across a much broader spectrum to get there.

If it seems like I am handling our slaps all over the place in this post, then you are correct. I've read a few of these threads now and am not at all happy with the tone that is evolving. Any Asset that has the least problems tends to devolve into a kind of witch hunt where, within a few hours or days, there is absolutely no space anymore to set things aright or hear the others voice. That does not help in any way, regardless of what is happening. That pisses me off, as I think we have a potential chunk of solid gold on our hands here, and I feel it's being destroyed by pettiness while it should be being built with professionalism.

+1
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: trollstocker on October 25, 2014, 01:47:55 pm
Saying NXTinspect has an agenda is a poor way to respond to genuine concerns for the community. For the record both Jef and chanc3r hold/ held ACH and I was in talks with Heather to buy a large position (before this was uncovered). NXTinspect was created to help the community in these situations. We are merely stating that there appears to be suspicious activity.

My concerns are just as genuine as yours, Whale.  My concerns, in this regard, being that members of the Nxt Community need to find a balance between welcoming business on the Nxt platform and protecting the interests of community members.  Right now, I see the pendulum swung very far toward protecting the interests of community members - not only in this thread, but in several others.  It seems to me that the current zeitgeist here on the forums is to be irrationally suspicious, put existing businesses through the ringer, make disrespectful accusations against them(in their own thread!), disregard business etiquette, and spin inconclusive data with a slant toward guilty until proven innocent.

I posted an additional viewpoint here in ACH's thread to attempt to counterbalance the FUD that was prevalent.  I did something similar on the FunBot thread - so, it's not that I'm specifically "defending"(your words) ACH.  My hope is that anyone who is considering doing business on the Nxt platform, that comes across this thread, will see that there is at least one member of this community that will give their business the benefit of the doubt when they see blockchain activity who's intention and structure isn't readily apparent to them.

I'd also like to mention that I never stated NXTinspect has an agenda.  You are misinterpreting my words and intention.  What I stated was:

"PS  I'm very curious as to what set off this attack on Altcoin Herald.  They've been set upon in the past couple weeks.  It's like some members of the community are holding a grudge against them.  Could it be because they are a competitor to SuperNET News, since they are one of two cryptomedia outlet businesses on the NXT AE?  I certainly hope this isn't some form of corporate sabotage or a personal vendetta by influential individuals...That gives NXT AE a bad rep, and pushes new business away."

And I'd like to state again that my concerns are just as valid as yours.  Jef has used the blockchain in his analysis of ACH.  I have used information confided in me by different individuals, my observations of recent actions taken by some community members, and what I know of various individual's personality traits to formulate a scenario in which the above could fit the data that I've gathered.  I never said that the scenario that I described above is a certainty or that I'm even confident in it.  I'm scared that scenario is happening, because I'm beginning to question who I can trust to partner in business with and who I can call friend.  I'm also scared that my own businesses will be set upon by the asset inquisitors, and I'll be called on to prove my innocence after they have convinced the community that I'm guilty by spinning blockchain data or my own business methodology against me.  My fear makes me less inclined to offer my business opportunities on the Nxt Platform.

I'm a person oriented toward solutions.  That what I do all day at my 9-5 - meet with customers, actively listen to their problems, and design a solution that meets their requirements.  Since they are unable to build our software themselves, I find myself in a position of having power over how they perform their day to day work activity.  I see that a major responsibility - I can make it more difficult for them, or I can ease their burden.  I don't assume that I know what's best for them because I don't walk in their shoes day in and day out.  That's why I go to them to ask them how they would like to see the system work.  Due to technical limitations, I can't always architect a solution to their specific requirements, but I get as close as I can to meeting those requirements.  And place a ticket with our vendor to add features to address what I can't.

Now I'm going to speak directly to NXTinspect, and also to KNS(though to a smaller degree).  I preface my thoughts with the above statement to give you background on my methodology and mindset: I haven't seen the same conscientiousness, delicacy, and self-discipline from the Nxt Community's two self-appointed asset review businesses as what I strive to demonstrate for my customers.  I feel burned by that - I originally supported the founding principles of NXTinspect, but as I've seen how those principles have been executed in actuality, I no longer support their efforts.  It seems that both review organizations rushed to develop their methodologies without solicitation of input from those who would be subjected to their practices.  That's where I cry foul.  I believe there are several other members of the Nxt Community who feel burned by how the review businesses conduct themselves.

As a solution for the above, in an attempt to build bridges in the interest of the community, I propose that a thread be initiated to house a "town hall" meeting. (bolded for those who only skim)  The goal would be to generate an open dialogue between the three major stakeholders in protecting our community against those who would seek to abuse it: the investors, the businesses, and the review boards.  The pertinent posts to this topic is strew through-out several threads on the forums, making it exceedingly difficult to see the progression of the dialogue.  A "town hall" thread would make it simpler to follow the conversation and respond with one's own thoughts and feelings on the current topic in discussion.  Coming out of such a dialogue, I would hope that we'd achieve a consensus and a partnership among the stakeholders, in the interests of protecting our community in a way that the stakeholders can agree on.  We would each be responsible for inviting to the thread the parties that we think hold a stake in the outcome.

I'd like to see us all in this together, rather than squabbling about who's "right" and who's "wrong", and who's insinuating what, and who has what agendas.  We, as a community, are much stronger in solidarity than we are in factions.

I encourage anybody viewing this post to respond to the above proposal with a yes or no, that way I'll know if I should kick it off or not.
+1 Yes
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: Darkhorse on October 25, 2014, 01:48:11 pm
I'm going to weigh in here from my own background of communication and opine that when it comes to phrasing we have a LOT of work to do in our community.

Regardless of content, the way content is presented far outweighs the actual information communicated.

I've seen some pretty heavy emotionally laden labels being pulled out very quickly "RED FLAG", "Seems like a thief", "bad business practice", etc. etc.

No only in this thread, but also in other ones.

Now, even though there may be red flags (boy, there are many of those), do you really think that anyone is going to cooperate with you if you start out like that?
That's holding people at gun point to provide info with a bit "Or else" hovering above the entire transaction.

We really need to come at this from a way where it's clear we want to make the AE safe for investors, while at the same time acknowledging that not all people will cooperate.
Inspecting agencies need to build trust, too! They are start ups, just like the companies they are inspecting.
From an outsider perspective, I am a bit taken aback at the aggressive tone that is being taken. I completely get that you want to offer a service, but from an outsider perspective, I'm more than a little flabbergasted at the tone bóth of you are taking, towards the companies you are auditing, ánd towards each other.

The same also goes for the companies under scrutiny, by the way.
BigTed, I gather you are involved with ACH. You seem to be pissed off. Well, welcome to a community that has been screwed over a few times. You will have to allow for quite a bit of suspicion.

Some people will trust you, but you will have to understand that not everything will be taken for granted. Wórk with the people here. Levelling attacks on a personal level néver works, even if you feel they were levelled at you. That's a one way ticket to the playground for all of us and doesn't help either you ór us.

I am not saying in any way that something is right or amiss here with ACH. I don't have the background to judge this either way. I am merely commenting on a very harmful way of communicating.

We're trying to build a system with checks and balances here. That takes TIME. We cannot expect inspecting agencies to have the trust that they want to get there immediately. Personally, I would opt for both of them to find a form where their info is easily available in a "descriptive" form for everyone and nót having them barge into threads proclaiming their positions.

Due diligence on the part of buyers is good, but if people want to disregard red flags (for ANY) reason, that's up to them and them alone. Any other form will turn the rating agencies into committees dispensing dogma. The info needs to be readily available, but if I, as an adult, want to go ahead anyway, I would not feel comfortable by being branded an idiot for ignoring red flags. That's mý responsibility.

In conclusion, I would like to see if we can define our goals much more clear here. Are we trying to "out bad actors" or are we trying to "make this a better environment for trade"? The first one now seems the case and is a very narrow aim, for me. The first goal is a means to get to the second one I stated and means a much broader scope of vision. We need to build skills across a much broader spectrum to get there.

If it seems like I am handling our slaps all over the place in this post, then you are correct. I've read a few of these threads now and am not at all happy with the tone that is evolving. Any Asset that has the least problems tends to devolve into a kind of witch hunt where, within a few hours or days, there is absolutely no space anymore to set things aright or hear the others voice. That does not help in any way, regardless of what is happening. That pisses me off, as I think we have a potential chunk of solid gold on our hands here, and I feel it's being destroyed by pettiness while it should be being built with professionalism.

+1

Damelon has a valid point here. The tone is going into the wrong direction. Townhall idea is good, do it. Btw this is very new, asset review/auditing. A lot of grey areas. Investors and reviewers should sit down and talk. Thats how real word ISO standards are achieved. Remember, you dont work for the system. The system is there to help you.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: whale on October 25, 2014, 01:55:32 pm
Hi everyone~

I think that everyone has given their thoughts on the ACH asset.

I really don't have the time to go 'tit for tat' with all of the things that were said by everyone.

AltcoinHerald.com has had a web presence LONG before we ever came here - and we wanted to offer a 'win-win' revenue share to anyone that was interested in it.

It's been structured in the same format from the beginning. The 'inspectors' understood the payout structure, as it's described in full on their page, so I'm not sure how it was misunderstood by Jef - one of the lead inspectors.

I had second thoughts about verifying my identity when I asked for a link to their information sharing policies and they couldn't/wouldn't provide them. Shortly thereafter this thread caught fire..

Back to the subject of business, our second dividend will be issued on October 31, 2014.

Any shares that have been purchased on Poloniex will receive dividends, so it doesn't make a difference if your shares are purchased here or there.

As always, if you'd like to stay abreast of developments, I ask that you refer to our official page here going forward. https://alth.co/rDPPI  (https://alth.co/rDPPI)

I will update this thread with any pertinent and important information as it becomes available.

Thanks for your consideration and have a great day!

It is your asset, you are free to answer what you like about it. Jef just put up some information that looked suspicious. However, as you can see, it is not only us who is concerned.

I had second thoughts about verifying my identity when I asked for a link to their information sharing policies and they couldn't/wouldn't provide them. Shortly thereafter this thread caught fire..

You replied 4 days ago... Your thread was catching fire long before then. Chanc3r is still working on a privacy policy as we need it for verification. By simply having an ardeva profile, you almost fulfill the full requirement.

PS. Creating a profile 'BigTed' to abuse everyone's responses isn't a good look. When the account was created today, uses terms such as 'our, we etc' and knows private conversations between yourself and I, it doesn't leave much to the imagination... You also may want to wait on more details for MEDIOS before making accusations. Currently only two people know the scope of the project, so I find it difficult to think that you know what you are talking about.

Once again you go on the wrong tangent and make another baseless accusation.

Obviously I'm involved with ACH and have been since February. I have an existing internet identity and I have no interest in sharing it with you for the purpose of arguing on this forum.

You seem to be conflating several issues. Once again, I feel you've aired your opinions. Everyone has heard your side of the story.

Move on. Your output of 10 reviews of under 100 words shows a work record where a lot left to be desired. Get out there and hustle and do some more reviews. You are not going to be able to sell a subscription to a 'service' where you basically post the information on a forum. You have a lot of work to do if you're looking to establish a revenue stream. Business these days is tough. It's not easy to 'push a button' and get rich.

My suggestion is once again to work on your own assets and improve the service you offer.

My edited post already realized this (check the time). I won't lower myself to senseless asset bashing or provide any 'suggestions', I don't have anything to prove.

I think this has been blown out of proportion. These concerns were not started by NXTinspect but with mounting evidence, Jef did some of his own research. I privately reached out to Heather to sort this out because I predicted the thread would go in this direction; Heather declined my help. If questions are not answered and help is rejected, our only option is to post our findings. If someone can suggest a better method, I would love to hear it (feedback is always appreciated).

If you have any further concerns, pm me. I have a weekend to enjoy  :)

Caveat emptor.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: duluth on October 25, 2014, 02:03:39 pm
I've read a few of these threads now and am not at all happy with the tone that is evolving. Any Asset that has the least problems tends to devolve into a kind of witch hunt where, within a few hours or days, there is absolutely no space anymore to set things aright or hear the others voice. That does not help in any way, regardless of what is happening. That pisses me off, as I think we have a potential chunk of solid gold on our hands here, and I feel it's being destroyed by pettiness while it should be being built with professionalism.

+1

I've read quite a few of those threads, as I'am trying to better understand nxt assets and how community works, and it turns out  that this tone is unpleasant and does not add much to the debate. Just my very humble opinion...
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: sv3n on October 25, 2014, 02:21:39 pm
As always Damelon, you've come through with great insight.  I know I have ben on the questioning side of this discussion, and when the inspecting groups came in, I decided to back down and just listen for a bit.  I am very disappointed with the way they have been performing and they have not done much good as far as confiding trust in assets for me.  I could not in good faith show the threads on this forum to someone like my father and convince him that these are real companies trying to provide real products, and there are real companies inspecting and securing confidence for investors.

I feel I got a little wrapped up in trying to "prove a scandal" and not secure my investment.  This is why I haven't been active on this thread recently.  We need to understand how we can move a decentralized community into a realm where people are not always looking over their shoulder.  This is bad for business, and it's bad for investors.  I still have questions about how funds are being spent, but I agree with cobalt that posting demands in a public thread is not the way to handle it.  We can't make conclusions within hours of reading a post.  Investigations take a lot of time, and that was my mistake, I did a quick investigation and came to a snap decision.

I really do encourage the idea of a town hall, as it may allow us to hit the reset button on all sides.  I think we all need to step back for a second and really understand what are our goals in this, as well as their implications.  It's really quite unfortunate that one of the few businesses that have an actual presence outside of this community is the one we decided to go after.  I initially invested because of that reason alone.

Let us not treat this discussion as only resolving an issue with ACH, but as a chance to understand where we want to align ourselves in the future.  How do we want to handle ourselves and represent ourselves to the outside world while still maintaing the strong community we have today.
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: cobaltskky on October 25, 2014, 04:33:09 pm
Let us not treat this discussion as only resolving an issue with ACH, but as a chance to understand where we want to align ourselves in the future.  How do we want to handle ourselves and represent ourselves to the outside world while still maintaing the strong community we have today.

+1440
Title: Re: [ANN] [ACH] Altcoin Herald Now Available As An Asset
Post by: saladin89 on October 25, 2014, 07:59:51 pm
Well the way I see it not everyone in this forum is going to be professional. The questions asked were valid, heather ignored them and a close associate(bigted) of her attacked the people asking the questions. It might be better that the people from the reviewing agencies not to comment in forum threads and instead just stick to the official reviews. The purpose of ann threads is to ask valid questions I don't see anything unprofessional about that I just see the response as unprofessional. The nature of the AE system is that the issuer of the assets can basically just take the money and run. This is why it is actually important that people ask critical questions in the threads.

I get that it is easier for nxtinspect people to ask the questions in the ann thread, but this might be seen as unprofessional by some people, might be better to just post reviews and ask questions via pm or email.

Anyway my point is that it is important to ask questions to avoid scams, that is what the ann threads are for and if we don't do that then more people will be scammed. I am certainly not investing in this asset because of lack of transparency and very unprofessional associates(bigted) of heather.

I also think it is in a way inevitable that things will get heated in this forum, peoples money is at stake here, and the competing companies can easily sabotage each other with sock puppets. This is not something that can ever be fully solved. This forum will never be as professional as wallstreet, but we can try to keep a nice tone at least. I think also a problem here is that some people mgiht ask valid questions and other investors might attack these people because they are emotionally invested in the asset and see this as destroying their wealth. And yes there also might be people who just want to destroy the competition instead of asking valid questions. It might be hard to differentiate the two sometimes, this will probably create a lot of problems, but there is no easy answer here.

If the AE evolves further there will probably be agencies which have a service of attacking competing companies in the AE through the forum.
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: SwissAlps on October 26, 2014, 05:51:30 am
Hi, Cobaltsky,

Could you please explain to us, non english fluent members, how a town hall meeting is and how it is different from just a usual forum thread?

I have this feeling that sometimes, english natives tend to forget about us, poor strangers...

Thanks
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: DRVX on October 26, 2014, 07:36:22 am
bought some
Title: things that make you go hmmmm...
Post by: satoshi on October 26, 2014, 07:53:14 am

out of 43 BTC market cap about 19 BTC traded on poloniex in 24 hours

while only .017 BTC traded on NXT AE the main listing platform.

Volume on NXT AE compared to Poloniex .017/19=.00089

I am only wondering if Poloniex is so much loving you why would you even list on NXT AE.

The only advantage I see with Poloniex that it doesn't have the transparency of NXT block chain.

BTW +1440 to NXTi and KNS to point out some actual gaping holes based on objective analysis.

(http://i.imgur.com/wfJwKEc.png)
Title: Re: things that make you go hmmmm...
Post by: BigTed on October 26, 2014, 10:44:45 am

out of 43 BTC market cap about 19 BTC traded on poloniex in 24 hours

while only .017 BTC traded on NXT AE the main listing platform.

Volume on NXT AE compared to Poloniex .017/19=.00089

I am only wondering if Poloniex is so much loving you why would you even list on NXT AE.

The only advantage I see with Poloniex that it doesn't have the transparency of NXT block chain.

BTW +1440 to NXTi and KNS to point out some actual gaping holes based on objective analysis.

(http://i.imgur.com/wfJwKEc.png)

Why are you in our thread?

In fact, GET OUT of our thread.

Your failed asset is one of the dumbest ones listed. You take money from people and then go to LTCGear.com and place an order.

Such a failed idea. It takes such a loser to continuously post in other people's threads.

Go do something positive with your life.

And yes, our volume is much higher on Poloniex. More people have BTC than NXT, you may not realize.

Now, shoo......go do something real and take some time off from this forum.
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: BigTed on October 26, 2014, 10:46:27 am
bought some

Awesome! Dividend is coming 10/31/2014 and every two weeks after.
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: altcoinherald on October 26, 2014, 11:04:03 am
ACH's second dividend payment will be processed on October 31, 2014.

As our way of saying 'thanks' we are throwing in a "Spooktacular" Bonus for all Asset holders!

(http://i.imgur.com/9uS0pxe.jpg)
Thanks for your consideration and for your support of the project!
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: rubenbc on October 26, 2014, 11:10:49 am
really? thanks ach :D
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: altcoinherald on October 26, 2014, 11:53:17 am
You're welcome!

It's our way of saying 'thanks' and Happy Halloween to all of our valued asset holders!

(http://www.jackiechankids.com/images_2/ghost_scaring_lg_wht.gif)
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: rubenbc on October 26, 2014, 11:58:16 am
happy halloween friend, good luck
Title: Re: things that make you go hmmmm...
Post by: satoshi on October 26, 2014, 12:04:34 pm
This is a community forum and you don't own it.

Another unique feature to ACH they have completely changed the OP.


out of 43 BTC market cap about 19 BTC traded on poloniex in 24 hours

while only .017 BTC traded on NXT AE the main listing platform.

Volume on NXT AE compared to Poloniex .017/19=.00089

I am only wondering if Poloniex is so much loving you why would you even list on NXT AE.

The only advantage I see with Poloniex that it doesn't have the transparency of NXT block chain.

BTW +1440 to NXTi and KNS to point out some actual gaping holes based on objective analysis.

(http://i.imgur.com/wfJwKEc.png)

Why are you in our thread?

In fact, GET OUT of our thread.

Your failed asset is one of the dumbest ones listed. You take money from people and then go to LTCGear.com and place an order.

Such a failed idea. It takes such a loser to continuously post in other people's threads.

Go do something positive with your life.

And yes, our volume is much higher on Poloniex. More people have BTC than NXT, you may not realize.

Now, shoo......go do something real and take some time off from this forum.
Title: Re: things that make you go hmmmm...
Post by: BigTed on October 26, 2014, 12:15:45 pm
This is a community forum and you don't own it.

Neither do you, failed asset issuer. We may not own the forum, but clearly this is our thread.

Please leave our thread and use your own thread to communicate.

You are adding nothing to this discussion. Indeed, you are 'trolling' and disrupting our communications channel.

We are using this thread for marketing purposes. All information about our asset is located at this address: https://alth.co/rDPPI

P.S. Attention Forum TROLLS: there are no job openings in this thread. Please walk on....

(http://media.giphy.com/media/BwhnxwNUZOG3u/giphy.gif)

Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: whatnxt on October 26, 2014, 12:20:41 pm
Hi BigTed and altcoinherald,

We (as a community) are trying to deal with the issues you have been experiencing and would appreciate your inputs here
https://nxtforum.org/assets-board/%28kns%29-october-2014-town-hall-meeting/
tell us your side of the story.

Although KNS started the thread I am sure NXTInspect will be watching.
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: satoshi on October 26, 2014, 12:21:43 pm
looking at your most successful site, I notice

https://altcoinherald.com/altcoin-lists/altcoin-hall-fame/

You are making money with NXT and you don't consider it as the best. Truly strange behaviour.

By the way

Heather is a man baby...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgOIEGz7o_s

Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: BigTed on October 26, 2014, 12:36:14 pm
Hi BigTed and altcoinherald,

We (as a community) are trying to deal with the issues you have been experiencing and would appreciate your inputs here
https://nxtforum.org/assets-board/%28kns%29-october-2014-town-hall-meeting/
tell us your side of the story.

Although KNS started the thread I am sure NXTInspect will be watching.

Hello, we're not really a part of the NXT community and we currently have no interest in offering opinions about how your community operates. That's beyond the scope of our mission.

We're at the point where we wish to operate this one thread so we can communicate with those wonderful members who have been gracious enough to support us. We're also honestly hoping that the trolling of our thread (which paints your community in such a negative light) will at long last come to an end.


Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: satoshi on October 26, 2014, 12:56:04 pm
Amazing arrogance...



Hello, we're not really a part of the NXT community and we currently have no interest in offering opinions about how your community operates. That's beyond the scope of our mission.

We're at the point where we wish to operate this one thread so we can communicate with those wonderful members who have been gracious enough to support us. We're also honestly hoping that the trolling of our thread (which paints your community in such a negative light) will at long last come to an end.
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: BigTed on October 26, 2014, 01:04:54 pm
Please, I humbly ask you 'Satoshi' to stop posting in our thread.

Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: altcoinherald on October 26, 2014, 01:08:19 pm
ACH's second dividend payment will be processed on October 31, 2014.

As our way of saying 'thanks' we are throwing in a "Spooktacular" Bonus for all Asset holders!

(http://i.imgur.com/9uS0pxe.jpg)
Thanks for your consideration and for your support of the project!
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: kseistrup on October 26, 2014, 01:13:12 pm
Please, I humbly ask you 'Satoshi' to stop posting in our thread.

IMHO, there is no such thing as “our thread”.  This is a community, and everybody is allowed to chime in with their opinion in any thread they like — even if that thread has been started by somebody else.
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: BigTed on October 26, 2014, 01:17:41 pm
Please, I humbly ask you 'Satoshi' to stop posting in our thread.

IMHO, there is no such thing as “our thread”.  This is a community, and everybody is allowed to chime in with their opinion in any thread they like — even if that thread has been started by somebody else.

Thanks for your feedback. However, I'm afraid I can't agree. This thread is for the 'ACH Asset Issuer' to communicate with the forum. For weeks now this thread has been abused with hostile comments.

That means we can't use this thread which we created to communicate with those who have purchased our asset without off-topic and rude comments being added. 

Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: altcoinherald on October 26, 2014, 01:19:02 pm
ACH's second dividend payment will be processed on October 31, 2014.

As our way of saying 'thanks' we are throwing in a "Spooktacular" Bonus for all Asset holders!

(http://i.imgur.com/9uS0pxe.jpg)
Thanks for your consideration and for your support of the project!
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: BigTed on October 26, 2014, 01:20:10 pm
Let's make this the Happiest Halloween ever!

Hopefully everyone is safe and has a ton of fun.

(http://media.giphy.com/media/qijwTwQrMnC6c/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: pf on October 26, 2014, 04:27:38 pm
I am honest to god astounded that these people have managed to get away without addressing any of jefdiesel's concerns.
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: jefdiesel on October 26, 2014, 05:08:55 pm
I just bought 1 share ACH, so now I am a shareholder http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=8691837117297092490

I previously held 10k http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=8002139228943210802 which I sold for a 7% loss to clear that position.

With my 1 share (literally 2cents) I am a shareholder again and will now press for clarity as such.
Can I get some answers to my questions please?
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: damon on October 26, 2014, 05:15:04 pm
Holy negativity Batman..

Dear NxTers - one can be IN the AWAKENED state (meaning - your head is neither in the sand nor in your anus) and yet be both positive and kind.

Kindness and Awakening are not mutually exclusive.

NxTers - repeat after me please - "NxT attracts to NxT that which occurs - if NxT is getting bad investments that is because NxT is drawing bad Investments to it"

One cannot resolve issues at the same level that creates the issues.  The world is topsy turvy because we we're NOT in the awakened state (meaning as a collective - we had our heads buried within our anuses).  We allowed a minority few to PROTECT us by stealing our freedoms, filling us with fear, propagandizing our children, working us to death on human tax farms, poisoning us with low quality food, etc. etc. etc..  One could say, that if you cannot approach a possibly skeptical situation with kindness then one does indeed have their head buried deep within their anus.

If I would have seen this thread back when I first came across NxT, I would not have invested so heavily in NxT.

Where NxT positions itself within the AltCoin annuls of history will be decided by the COLLECTIVE COHERENCE at wish they participate.  NxT can END the nose dive into the depths of vomit anytime it wishes by merely spreading it's wings and flying back into the lush green mountain above the rainy clouds, sitting eye to eye with heaven within the Garden of Eden.

It's really quite a simple and DeCentralized solution to----- ASK (with infinite kindness), about the seemingly odd NxT traffic and then upon hearing or NOT hearing the answer, simply stop investing or even SELL your ACH.
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: cobaltskky on October 26, 2014, 05:17:56 pm
I just bought 1 share ACH, so now I am a shareholder http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=8691837117297092490

I previously held 10k http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=8002139228943210802 which I sold for a 7% loss to clear that position.

With my 1 share (literally 2cents) I am a shareholder again and will now press for clarity as such.
Can I get some answers to my questions please?

It doesn't work if the other party doesn't play by the same rules as you.
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: jefdiesel on October 26, 2014, 05:18:36 pm
To clarify:

All the following accounts hold ACH that has been purchased via direct transfers of NXT from your account. Can you explain why?

Asset Issuer                           4167373   83.35%      
NXT-FZX8-TG5C-65HL-59J5V   132621   2.65%      Acct B
Blue Machine                           147714   2.95%      Acct C
NXT-C4SZ-HDS5-HG8X-6LFLJ   94116   1.88%      Acct D
NXT-M6GM-BQYH-8A8F-BKDC5   16979   0.34%      Acct E
NXT-DC6C-RM7X-N7XH-CRH8C   13103   0.26%      ACCT F
NXT-NW9T-WPQV-LJT4-7X8RT   10500   0.21%      ACCT G
NXT-P3WZ-9PRT-MH6Z-AS6QV   1082           0.02%      acct H
NXT-TC9P-MUDA-BMSZ-6Q5XT   890           0.02%      Acct I
                                     Totals    4584378   91.68%      


here is the full document, tab 1 is the list of transfers tracked by TXID and accounts, tab 2 is the ACH holding accounts.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1whEylR0buEZ72M8N0quPjQ5Cu_7rhWXzPcy1UgUPvaY/edit?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: jefdiesel on October 26, 2014, 05:20:34 pm

It doesn't work if the other party doesn't play by the same rules as you.

can you clarify that statement please?
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: cobaltskky on October 26, 2014, 05:26:24 pm

It doesn't work if the other party doesn't play by the same rules as you.

can you clarify that statement please?

Naw.  I don't want to get into a big heated debate again.  I'm sick of it.  I'd rather be happy and relaxed today.

Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: sv3n on October 26, 2014, 05:28:43 pm

It doesn't work if the other party doesn't play by the same rules as you.

can you clarify that statement please?

Naw.  I don't want to get into a big heated debate again.  I'm sick of it.  I'd rather be happy and relaxed today.
+1
It's homemade pizza day today!
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: jefdiesel on October 26, 2014, 05:30:08 pm

It doesn't work if the other party doesn't play by the same rules as you.

can you clarify that statement please?

Naw.  I don't want to get into a big heated debate again.  I'm sick of it.  I'd rather be happy and relaxed today.

Neither do I. I am just asking for answers to my questions. The issuers have chosen to wade into this thread with attacks and then bribes, and then outright admission they are not part of this community.
I asked again for clarity AS A shareholder (as token as it may be) and you chose to make a vague comment that only stirs the pot of the big heated debate.

So please contribute or don't.
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: cobaltskky on October 26, 2014, 05:39:15 pm
So please contribute or don't.

I contributed what I felt was a straight-forward, concise concept.
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: pf on October 26, 2014, 05:42:55 pm
If it looks like a duck* and quacks*, it's probably a duck*.






* duck=scam quack=avoid answering questions
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: damon on October 26, 2014, 05:45:12 pm
Try buying a share of Nike, Apple or Microsoft and then "Demanding" answers to your questions.  While they may indeed be morally obligated to explain their actions to you, I would not hold your breath.

Then, ask your taxing agency, like the IRS (US), CRA (Canada), or the ATO (Australia) to please tell you why not a single nickel of taxpayer money goes to benefitting society and see how that works for you?  In this case, there is absolutely a moral obligation, and probably a lawful obligation too, since they do indeed prosecute you, foreclose on homes, garnish wages, close bank accounts, and will even send men with guns to kidnap you and hold you hostage, and yet they will still not explain why not a single nickel (5 cents) goes to anything that benefits humanity?  They won't even give a detailed breakdown of where your money goes.  I know, because I have asked and I know people in Canada, and in England who have all asked (in my case, no less than 8 times) and I have never heard of a single human actually receiving a valid response.

The use of FORCE to get answers does not work, and will never work, at least not in the long term.  The use of force is HOW the current system work.  Only the use of kindness has any lasting positive effect.  Only the use of decency has any real powerful effect.  Only gentle grace has the power to create real positive change.

So...  which is it?  Is NxT going to be a POWERFUL entity or a FORCEFUL entity?  I would like to KNOW.  But, I will not rage, spew fluids from my mouth, turn red in the face, and have my eyeballs pop-out while spinning in opposite directions, to attain this information.  If I do not HEAR an answer, than my question has indeed been ANSWERED..
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: printshop on October 26, 2014, 05:48:00 pm
I am honest to god astounded that these people have managed to get away without addressing any of jefdiesel's concerns.

Or mine, or the others who had been pressing.

Well, somewhat along these lines, I don't think I've asked this yet -- do shares in ACH represent ownership/control of the company, or just profits? Thanks.
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: pf on October 26, 2014, 05:50:56 pm
Honestly if this woman has no interest in answering any of these concerns that people have raised, can't we just brand this bad boy a scam and ask Polo to take it down?

If she has no interest in discussing concerns with as many established community members as have brought up their concerns and wants to just start posting some ghost pictures and wishing people happy halloween with 2500 NXT for free --- maybe i don't get it... but how ISN'T this a scam?

The dividends that were paid came directly from one of the accounts she transferred the NXT to, she didn't even buy NXT on an exchange to send out as dividends, she literally used the NXT that was "made" by selling the shares to pay out the dividends!

 how ISN'T this a scam?
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: jefdiesel on October 26, 2014, 05:52:57 pm
So please contribute or don't.

I contributed what I felt was a straight-forward, concise concept.


so if its concise and straight-forward concept you should have no problem elaborating when one of the parties in the conversation asks for clarity. This is in no way has to lead to a heated debate.

I do not understand what you mean when you say "It doesn't work if the other party doesn't play by the same rules as you."

What party and what rules? As I see it, I'm asking a series questions of the asset issuer.
Does your "not work" refer to get answers?
Who's the "other party"?  ACH I assume, since that is who I am asking.
and by saying "doesn't play by the same rules as you", in reference to "not working" are you implying that the "other parties" rules exclude them from having to answer questions?

PARAPHRASING REMOVED

edit for removing of assumptions.
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: jefdiesel on October 26, 2014, 05:55:50 pm

If she has no interest in discussing concerns with as many established community members as have brought up their concerns and wants to just start posting some ghost pictures and wishing people happy halloween with 2500 NXT for free --- maybe i don't get it... but how ISN'T this a scam?


2500NXT / 5M ACCOUNTS, 0.0005 per share. Don't forget ACH appears to own 91.68% of their own shares, so they would recoup 2292 of that.
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: cobaltskky on October 26, 2014, 05:57:18 pm
I'm done with this thread.  What a waste of passion and energy spent on tearing down somebody else's business instead of spent on partnering and building bridges.  I'll watch ACH's other communication avenue for updates pertinent to my investment: https://altcoinherald.com/wiki/index.php?title=ACH and engage them on their forums: https://forum.altcoinherald.com/

I get the impression those avenues are ACH's preferred method of communication now.

De-bookmarking this thread.
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: altcoinherald on October 26, 2014, 07:25:23 pm
ACH's NXT dividend payment will be processed Mid-November

As our way of saying 'thanks' we are throwing in a "Fall Bonus" for all Asset holders!

(http://i.imgur.com/bysHbas.jpg)
Thanks for your consideration and for your support of the project!
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: BigTed on October 26, 2014, 07:29:38 pm
Holy negativity Batman..

Dear NxTers - one can be IN the AWAKENED state (meaning - your head is neither in the sand nor in your anus) and yet be both positive and kind.

Kindness and Awakening are not mutually exclusive.

NxTers - repeat after me please - "NxT attracts to NxT that which occurs - if NxT is getting bad investments that is because NxT is drawing bad Investments to it"

One cannot resolve issues at the same level that creates the issues.  The world is topsy turvy because we we're NOT in the awakened state (meaning as a collective - we had our heads buried within our anuses).  We allowed a minority few to PROTECT us by stealing our freedoms, filling us with fear, propagandizing our children, working us to death on human tax farms, poisoning us with low quality food, etc. etc. etc..  One could say, that if you cannot approach a possibly skeptical situation with kindness then one does indeed have their head buried deep within their anus.

If I would have seen this thread back when I first came across NxT, I would not have invested so heavily in NxT.

Where NxT positions itself within the AltCoin annuls of history will be decided by the COLLECTIVE COHERENCE at wish they participate.  NxT can END the nose dive into the depths of vomit anytime it wishes by merely spreading it's wings and flying back into the lush green mountain above the rainy clouds, sitting eye to eye with heaven within the Garden of Eden.

It's really quite a simple and DeCentralized solution to----- ASK (with infinite kindness), about the seemingly odd NxT traffic and then upon hearing or NOT hearing the answer, simply stop investing or even SELL your ACH.

Great post. Of course that would be too easy of a solution. They have to ATTACK and attempt to RUIN the value for everyone else. People who have invested in ACH should be completely sick of watching these tactics unfold. It's coming from rival asset issuers who stand to gain from this asset losing in value.
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: BigTed on October 26, 2014, 07:32:06 pm
I just bought 1 share ACH, so now I am a shareholder http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=8691837117297092490

I previously held 10k http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=8002139228943210802 which I sold for a 7% loss to clear that position.

With my 1 share (literally 2cents) I am a shareholder again and will now press for clarity as such.
Can I get some answers to my questions please?

Sorry, I don't see any 'shareholder' handbook that says buying 1 ACH gives you the right to give your '2 cents' for the 1,000th time in the same thread.

You and the rest of the NXT Inquisitors have said more than enough and you really, really, really should go produce something of value that can help you gain revenues and reap rewards for your investors.
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: BigTed on October 26, 2014, 07:35:19 pm

It doesn't work if the other party doesn't play by the same rules as you.

can you clarify that statement please?

Naw.  I don't want to get into a big heated debate again.  I'm sick of it.  I'd rather be happy and relaxed today.

Neither do I. I am just asking for answers to my questions. The issuers have chosen to wade into this thread with attacks and then bribes, and then outright admission they are not part of this community.
I asked again for clarity AS A shareholder (as token as it may be) and you chose to make a vague comment that only stirs the pot of the big heated debate.

So please contribute or don't.

How does one 'wade in' to their own thread. "Attacks" are what you have produced since the beginning. What you call bribes I call rewards for people who have invested in ACH and have had to put up with your B.S.
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: BigTed on October 26, 2014, 07:38:19 pm
All these 'ghoulish' comments from the 'NXT Community' remind me it's Halloween!

Everybody make sure to have the best holiday possible this year.

(http://media.giphy.com/media/qijwTwQrMnC6c/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: pf on October 26, 2014, 07:40:10 pm
Hey BigTed! How's being a scammer and a thief treating you? Since when do you think that people running assets worth thousands of dollars can act as evasive and questionable as this asset? Anyone who invests in this is insane!
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: BigTed on October 26, 2014, 07:43:35 pm
"Scammer and thief."

LOL, this has gone from the sublime to the ridiculous.

We are showing up for work every single day, producing results.

We haven't run off and we're completing our FIRST MONTH of paying dividends this Friday.

You actually came in and TROLLED a Happy Halloween thread and complained we're giving NXT to community members.
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: Damelon on October 26, 2014, 07:51:54 pm
If people from both sides of the argument cannot de-escalate this discussion, please just refrain from posting.

Asking questions is fine, spouting drivel ánd continuing to comment on drivel does not help any discussion.

Please, consider just walking away from your keyboard and taking a breather.
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: altcoinherald on October 29, 2014, 01:55:33 pm
Just a reminder that our next dividend is coming on Halloween!

(http://i.imgur.com/CGz665h.jpg)

Thanks again for your support and consideration!
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: buybitcoinscanada on October 29, 2014, 05:06:15 pm
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Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: altcoinherald on October 29, 2014, 05:15:32 pm
I guess this provides a good example of why A.E. seriously needs a revamp with new functions and rules (auto-escrow of funds, asset holder approval/voting to release funds, issuing account limitations, etc.) These functions can be marked "yes/no" on asset creation and the status of these functions are flagged within the client. These functions greatly mitigate risk and risk assessment becomes incredibly easier, as on a first glance you can determine some essential information about the asset and the issuers intentions to base your investment decisions on.

Main A.E. issues:

Asset issuer has total control of issuing account assets and funds raised from the sale of assets.
Asset holders have no control over issuing account assets and funds raised from sale of assets.

This imbalance of power creates a serious conflict of interest between issuers and investors. It has to be mitigated with technology. Until then, this and other unsavory practices and scams that plague the A.E. will continue.

Hello there~

I'm unclear as to what this comment is in reference to?
Title: Re: Next Dividend October 31, 2014 - ACH
Post by: pf on October 29, 2014, 09:38:56 pm
everything about this asset seems super hokey, i can't wait until someone manages to prove beyond all reasonable doubt that this is a scam.
Title: Re: ACH 10/31 Dividend + Bonus Paid! Happy Halloween!
Post by: altcoinherald on October 31, 2014, 12:40:27 pm
We're excited to announce that all ACH Asset holders have been issued their second dividend payout - just in time to enjoy the Halloween Holiday!

This includes the distribution of a BONUS 2,500 NXT!

Here's a breakdown of this reporting period:

10/15/2014-10/31/2014 - $1589 Total Revenues (Second Bi-Weekly Reporting Period) - Distributed on 10/31/2014.
$635.60 - 40% Revenue Share $317.80 - 20% Placed In Reserve..

Each ACH asset received Per Asset Share = 31499/5000000=0.0062998 NXT.

Again, we'd like to thank everyone for their support of the project - we're coming back with another BONUS for our third distribution scheduled for mid-November!

...and don't forget, enjoy your holiday weekend!

(http://i.giphy.com/A606ZK1RPI760.gif)
Title: Re: ACH 10/31 Dividend + Bonus Paid! Happy Halloween!
Post by: jefdiesel on October 31, 2014, 01:20:47 pm
Thanks for the dividend breakdown, and $1589 Total Revenues is great for a two week period. Do you have some paperwork to show where these revenues came from?

PM sent
Title: Re: ACH 10/31 Dividend + Bonus Paid! Happy Halloween!
Post by: BigTed on October 31, 2014, 01:29:14 pm
Thanks for the dividend breakdown, and $1589 Total Revenues is great for a two week period. Do you have some paperwork to show where these revenues came from?

PM sent

Hello. No we don't have any 'paperwork' breaking down revenues. As you can imagine, our asset is relatively easily copied by others. Therefore there's no incentive for us to go into too many details about how we're deriving revenue. If we do that, it would be very easy for someone else to create a 'media asset' which mimics our model.

Revenues are a total of submissions (new), affiliate revenue, and direct advertising (banners).
Title: Re: ACH 10/31 Dividend + Bonus Paid! Happy Halloween!
Post by: Freebieservers on October 31, 2014, 01:35:25 pm
Mind if I ask how many hits you get in terms of traffic every month?
1.7k seems really good.
Title: Re: ACH 10/31 Dividend + Bonus Paid! Happy Halloween!
Post by: BigTed on October 31, 2014, 01:37:32 pm
Mind if I ask how many hits you get in terms of traffic every month?
1.7k seems really good.

Pageviews are around 110,000 per month and growing.
Title: Re: ACH 10/31 Dividend + Bonus Paid! Happy Halloween!
Post by: jefdiesel on November 01, 2014, 03:38:07 pm
Thanks for the dividend breakdown, and $1589 Total Revenues is great for a two week period. Do you have some paperwork to show where these revenues came from?

PM sent

Hello. No we don't have any 'paperwork' breaking down revenues. As you can imagine, our asset is relatively easily copied by others. Therefore there's no incentive for us to go into too many details about how we're deriving revenue. If we do that, it would be very easy for someone else to create a 'media asset' which mimics our model.

Revenues are a total of submissions (new), affiliate revenue, and direct advertising (banners).
In paperwork I meant period results for clicks,  banner payouts,  and the usual other mix of ways websites make money.
I assumed your value was in page views which come from content and networking. Those cannot just be copied.
Sure someone could leach your content but the network all leads back to you.

Title: Re: ACH 10/31 Dividend + Bonus Paid! Happy Halloween!
Post by: jefdiesel on November 01, 2014, 03:39:09 pm
Screen shots would work great. Sorry,  writing this on my phone.  Harder to review.
Title: Re: ACH 10/31 Dividend + Bonus Paid! Happy Halloween!
Post by: pf on November 01, 2014, 08:49:48 pm
When does this thing finally get put on blast?
Title: Re: ACH 10/31 Dividend + Bonus Paid! Happy Halloween!
Post by: printshop on November 02, 2014, 12:07:03 am
Hello. No we don't have any 'paperwork' breaking down revenues. As you can imagine, our asset is relatively easily copied by others. Therefore there's no incentive for us to go into too many details about how we're deriving revenue. If we do that, it would be very easy for someone else to create a 'media asset' which mimics our model.

Revenues are a total of submissions (new), affiliate revenue, and direct advertising (banners).

Really, that old line about not releasing a business plan because you're afraid of competition?

How do you do your taxes?
Title: Re: ACH 10/31 Dividend + Bonus Paid! Happy Halloween!
Post by: pf on November 06, 2014, 09:35:27 pm
Why, as a community, do we not put this asset on blast?
how many times do we have to catch them manipulating markets and then lying about it afterwards?
Title: Re: ACH 10/31 Dividend + Bonus Paid! Happy Halloween!
Post by: BigTed on November 06, 2014, 10:21:34 pm
Why, as a community, do we not put this asset on blast?
how many times do we have to catch them manipulating markets and then lying about it afterwards?

What was the purpose of you bumping this thread again, lowlife?
Title: Re: ACH 10/31 Dividend + Bonus Paid! Happy Halloween!
Post by: BigTed on November 06, 2014, 10:25:51 pm
Hello. No we don't have any 'paperwork' breaking down revenues. As you can imagine, our asset is relatively easily copied by others. Therefore there's no incentive for us to go into too many details about how we're deriving revenue. If we do that, it would be very easy for someone else to create a 'media asset' which mimics our model.

Revenues are a total of submissions (new), affiliate revenue, and direct advertising (banners).

Really, that old line about not releasing a business plan because you're afraid of competition?

How do you do your taxes?

Loser...if I want to read your words I'll buy your subscription.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: altcoinherald on November 06, 2014, 10:30:13 pm
Thread is locked for the time being.

We'll be back when we have news.. In the meantime please enjoy this cozy fire..

(http://i.giphy.com/Hj7mksbFWIOdO.gif)
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: EvilDave on November 10, 2014, 04:53:16 pm
Doesn't seem all that locked to me.......anyone feel like explaining to me wtf is happening here?
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: weekendwarrior on November 10, 2014, 04:55:22 pm
Doesn't seem all that locked to me.......anyone feel like explaining to me wtf is happening here?

maybe ask a specific question.  ;D
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: kseistrup on November 10, 2014, 04:55:50 pm
Doesn't seem all that locked to me.......anyone feel like explaining to me wtf is happening here?

There's no lock in the upper left corner any longer.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: weekendwarrior on November 10, 2014, 04:56:47 pm
Doesn't seem all that locked to me.......anyone feel like explaining to me wtf is happening here?

There's no lock in the upper left corner any longer.

this guy is sharp as a tack. doesn't miss a thing.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: VanBreuk on November 10, 2014, 04:59:50 pm
Doesn't seem all that locked to me.......anyone feel like explaining to me wtf is happening here?

There's no lock in the upper left corner any longer.

this guy is sharp as a tack. doesn't miss a thing.

Take a few days off, I think too many people are getting annoyed with your rude and unsubstantiated comments.

One week ban placed.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 10, 2014, 05:01:58 pm
Doesn't seem all that locked to me.......anyone feel like explaining to me wtf is happening here?

There's no lock in the upper left corner any longer.

this guy is sharp as a tack. doesn't miss a thing.

Take a few days off, I think too many people are getting annoyed with your rude and unsubstantiated comments.

One week ban placed.

Whoa, that's the most decisive action out of an admin here and it was AGAINST someone who supports ACH.

Do you call the comments by "pf" in this thread 'constructive?"
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 10, 2014, 05:04:48 pm
Doesn't seem all that locked to me.......anyone feel like explaining to me wtf is happening here?

The thread was locked in order to cut down on the flames we've been receiving.

Then 'ifeng' opened a new thread to accuse of cheating because this thread was locked so we re-opened this one.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: VanBreuk on November 10, 2014, 05:06:08 pm
Doesn't seem all that locked to me.......anyone feel like explaining to me wtf is happening here?

There's no lock in the upper left corner any longer.

this guy is sharp as a tack. doesn't miss a thing.

Take a few days off, I think too many people are getting annoyed with your rude and unsubstantiated comments.

One week ban placed.

Whoa, that's the most decisive action out of an admin here and it was AGAINST someone who supports ACH.

Do you call the comments by "pf" in this thread 'constructive?"

The decision had nothing to do with the fact he was supporting ACH or not. And I posted in this thread as I could have posted after another of his comments.

He has been posting in multiple threads, basically being annoying, with no actual contribution I can see.

For the record, I often don't like pf's attitude either.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 10, 2014, 05:08:09 pm
Doesn't seem all that locked to me.......anyone feel like explaining to me wtf is happening here?

There's no lock in the upper left corner any longer.

this guy is sharp as a tack. doesn't miss a thing.

Take a few days off, I think too many people are getting annoyed with your rude and unsubstantiated comments.

One week ban placed.

Whoa, that's the most decisive action out of an admin here and it was AGAINST someone who supports ACH.

Do you call the comments by "pf" in this thread 'constructive?"

The decision had nothing to do with the fact he was supporting ACH or not. And I posted in this thread as I could have posted after another of his comments.

He has been posting in multiple threads, basically being annoying, with no actual contribution I can see.

For the record, I often don't like pf's attitude either.

"pf" hasn't made any contributions that I can see either. Same goes for "printshop" in this thread.

Please hand out your punishments equally.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: EvilDave on November 10, 2014, 05:13:40 pm
Well, that escalated quickly........

Might have to actually *read* the thread  :o
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 10, 2014, 05:19:18 pm
Well, that escalated quickly........

Might have to actually *read* the thread  :o

I'm sure you have something more important to do than read 15 pages of "twaddle."  ;D

Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: jefdiesel on November 10, 2014, 05:32:54 pm
Or 15 pages of links to txids providing details on sock puppet transfer and poloniex manipulation.

Aka "twaddle"
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 10, 2014, 05:35:33 pm
Or 15 pages of links to txids providing details on sock puppet transfer and poloniex manipulation.

Aka "twaddle"

Yep, it's "twaddle." 

Everybody and their uncle has heard your accusations. You have vented and vented. Yet you still appear, here, to say the same basic thing.

Have some faith in people. They heard your accusations. If they're concerned about what you brought up, they can deal with it. But enough is enough.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: jefdiesel on November 10, 2014, 05:38:04 pm
Yes ted. I agree that my statements are out there. Done. Let the people decide.
You can abide by the same rules and I'm cool.
Call it twaddle and I will come back and post it again. .
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 10, 2014, 05:39:45 pm
Yes ted. I agree that my statements are out there. Done. Let the people decide.
You can abide by the same rules and I'm cool.
Call it twaddle and I will come back and post it again. .

So you're going to leave this thread at long last?
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: jefdiesel on November 10, 2014, 05:42:53 pm
Nah,  I'll be lurking and answering questions.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: EvilDave on November 10, 2014, 05:44:26 pm
Hmmm...think I'll read this f***er and see what comes out.
 
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 10, 2014, 05:44:31 pm
Nah,  I'll be lurking and answering questions.

No one needs you to 'answer questions.'

Perhaps you should get busy on one your many, many projects. That would be time better served over your normal course of action.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: jefdiesel on November 10, 2014, 05:52:22 pm
Well since you and Heather wont answer questions, someone else has to.

And I've been working all day and night on my many projects.
Right now I'm enjoying a beautiful fall day at the playground. My kid is playing,  I'm firing off emails and saw your dismissive comments about twaddle,  so you pulled me back in.

I'd love to have a Q and A with you. I post my questions and you answer them. That would be constructive and informative.

Don't say you've answered them before,  remember were trying to clear out the twaddle.

I'll start.
Can you explain the transfer of ach funds to the mixer account and then onto the 6 listed accounts that then purchased nothing but ach shares?

Thanks,  your honest answers are appreciated

Jef
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 10, 2014, 05:55:35 pm
Well since you and Heather wont answer questions, someone else has to.

And I've been working all day and night on my many projects.
Right now I'm enjoying a beautiful fall day at the playground. My kid is playing,  I'm firing off emails and saw your dismissive comments about twaddle,  so you pulled me back in.

I'd love to have a Q and A with you. I post my questions and you answer them. That would be constructive and informative.

Don't say you've answered them before,  remember were trying to clear out the twaddle.

I'll start.
Can you explain the transfer of ach funds to the mixer account and then onto the 6 listed accounts that then purchased nothing but ach shares?

Thanks,  your honest answers are appreciated

Jef

No "Jef," you and I aren't having a 'Q&A.'

You aren't an investor, or a potential investor, and you have dominated this thread for long enough.

This asset has been running since 09/01/2014. We paid dividends as promised on 10/15/2014 and 10/31/2014 and will pay again on 11/15/2014. This asset isn't rocket science and the so-called 'malfeasance' you keep alluding to has no material impact whatsoever on this asset.

Nobody cares. You've vented your concerns. Now it's time for you to be a man and move on.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: pf on November 10, 2014, 05:58:45 pm
How about the fact that you didn't just try and scam the AE by inflating the volume, but you guys do the same thing with the exchanges???
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: jefdiesel on November 10, 2014, 06:00:43 pm
As I said before. I am an investor. I previously 10k shares and sold them when I got suspicious.

http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=8002139228943210802

I bought 1 more share so I am again an investor.

Who's questions will you answer? Anyone's?

Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 10, 2014, 06:01:50 pm
How about the fact that you didn't just try and scam the AE by inflating the volume, but you guys do the same thing with the exchanges???

Here's "Mr. Constructive."  ;D

Nobody "scammed" anybody. Nobody is inflating anything.

Everybody has heard your dire warnings. There's no reason for you to continue posting the same "info" in the thread.



Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: pf on November 10, 2014, 06:02:34 pm
Au contrare, "BigTed", are you saying that ACH did not in fact inflate the volume on Poloniex intentionally??
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 10, 2014, 06:02:59 pm
As I said before. I am an investor. I previously 10k shares and sold them when I got suspicious.

http://www.nxtreporting.com/?a=8002139228943210802

I bought 1 more share so I am again an investor.

Who's questions will you answer? Anyone's?

"1 ach."  Damn, dude, even you know that's trollish.

Enough. Go play with your kid today. Life is short. Go and enjoy a warm day doing something productive while you still have time.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: pf on November 10, 2014, 06:05:52 pm
Au contrare, "BigTed", are you saying that ACH did not in fact inflate the volume on Poloniex intentionally??
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 10, 2014, 06:11:13 pm
Au contrare, "BigTed", are you saying that ACH did not in fact inflate the volume on Poloniex intentionally??

I don't recall mentioning "Poloniex" at all. Why would I?

In any event, I suggest you read the helpful moderator posts about leaving 'constructive' criticisms. They banned "weekendwarrior" already today and they may do the same for you.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: pf on November 10, 2014, 06:13:36 pm
How about the fact that you didn't just try and scam the AE by inflating the volume, but you guys do the same thing with the exchanges???

Here's "Mr. Constructive."  ;D

Nobody "scammed" anybody. Nobody is inflating anything.

Everybody has heard your dire warnings. There's no reason for you to continue posting the same "info" in the thread.
Poloniex = the only exchange ACH is traded on
which you played the exact same volume manipulation games on.
Buying and selling between shill accounts pumping up the volume.
Then you refuse to answer any questions in this thread.
Just how stupid do you think people are???
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: pf on November 10, 2014, 06:15:24 pm
My only constructive suggestion is for anyone still invested in your asset and that would be for them to dump it as fast as humanly possible and choose an asset that doesn't artificially inflate their own volumes and lie openly about doing so.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: jl777 on November 10, 2014, 06:15:56 pm
Au contrare, "BigTed", are you saying that ACH did not in fact inflate the volume on Poloniex intentionally??

I don't recall mentioning "Poloniex" at all. Why would I?

In any event, I suggest you read the helpful moderator posts about leaving 'constructive' criticisms. They banned "weekendwarrior" already today and they may do the same for you.
since you are new here, maybe you dont know who I am. I have been known to buy big amounts of assets, but your behavior is quite a turnoff to me.

Maybe you dont care about potential investors like me. Then keep doing what you are doing and dont answer a single question about anything and just attack the person that asks the question.

My analysis is that the volumes on poloniex was crazy big and I have to assume it was done by insiders. This is not a good sign and combine that with your combative stance and it convinces me to not invest at all.

Your choice if you want to behave in a civilized manner or continue this bully behavior.

James
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: VanBreuk on November 10, 2014, 06:16:38 pm
Au contrare, "BigTed", are you saying that ACH did not in fact inflate the volume on Poloniex intentionally??

I don't recall mentioning "Poloniex" at all. Why would I?

In any event, I suggest you read the helpful moderator posts about leaving 'constructive' criticisms. They banned "weekendwarrior" already today and they may do the same for you.

Can people please have a response to the presented questions?

If there is already a post that addresses what jefdiesel, pf and others are asking about, people that have recently joined the discussion and do not have time to read the whole topic will really appreciate it.

Actually I hold some shares myself and I'd like to have a simple link that addresses those questions. It would certainly help more than sarcasm.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: pf on November 10, 2014, 06:18:02 pm
Au contrare, "BigTed", are you saying that ACH did not in fact inflate the volume on Poloniex intentionally??

I don't recall mentioning "Poloniex" at all. Why would I?

In any event, I suggest you read the helpful moderator posts about leaving 'constructive' criticisms. They banned "weekendwarrior" already today and they may do the same for you.
since you are new here, maybe you dont know who I am. I have been known to buy big amounts of assets, but your behavior is quite a turnoff to me.

Maybe you dont care about potential investors like me. Then keep doing what you are doing and dont answer a single question about anything and just attack the person that asks the question.

My analysis is that the volumes on poloniex was crazy big and I have to assume it was done by insiders. This is not a good sign and combine that with your combative stance and it convinces me to not invest at all.

Your choice if you want to behave in a civilized manner or continue this bully behavior.

James
Poloniex has confirmed that the large volume of ACH trading was done by two shill accounts coming from the same IP address.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 10, 2014, 06:20:24 pm
Au contrare, "BigTed", are you saying that ACH did not in fact inflate the volume on Poloniex intentionally??

I don't recall mentioning "Poloniex" at all. Why would I?

In any event, I suggest you read the helpful moderator posts about leaving 'constructive' criticisms. They banned "weekendwarrior" already today and they may do the same for you.
since you are new here, maybe you dont know who I am. I have been known to buy big amounts of assets, but your behavior is quite a turnoff to me.

Maybe you dont care about potential investors like me. Then keep doing what you are doing and dont answer a single question about anything and just attack the person that asks the question.

My analysis is that the volumes on poloniex was crazy big and I have to assume it was done by insiders. This is not a good sign and combine that with your combative stance and it convinces me to not invest at all.

Your choice if you want to behave in a civilized manner or continue this bully behavior.

James

"Bully behavior."

Well James, I'm sure you can make up your own mind about whether to invest or not.

I guess the basic idea is that I will stand here and act like a punching bag while people take cheap shots at me.

Sounds reasonable.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 10, 2014, 06:23:06 pm
Au contrare, "BigTed", are you saying that ACH did not in fact inflate the volume on Poloniex intentionally??

I don't recall mentioning "Poloniex" at all. Why would I?

In any event, I suggest you read the helpful moderator posts about leaving 'constructive' criticisms. They banned "weekendwarrior" already today and they may do the same for you.

Can people please have a response to the presented questions?

If there is already a post that addresses what jefdiesel, pf and others are asking about, people that have recently joined the discussion and do not have time to read the whole topic will really appreciate it.

Actually I hold some shares myself and I'd like to have a simple link that addresses those questions. It would certainly help more than sarcasm.

No dude. I'm sorry, but I can't sign off on this double standard.

I was told NOT to post in "printshops" thread and yet I have to answer questions from jefdiesel and pf.

I've been doing my best to contain this whole mess but it appears there's no way to do it.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: jl777 on November 10, 2014, 06:27:12 pm
Au contrare, "BigTed", are you saying that ACH did not in fact inflate the volume on Poloniex intentionally??

I don't recall mentioning "Poloniex" at all. Why would I?

In any event, I suggest you read the helpful moderator posts about leaving 'constructive' criticisms. They banned "weekendwarrior" already today and they may do the same for you.
since you are new here, maybe you dont know who I am. I have been known to buy big amounts of assets, but your behavior is quite a turnoff to me.

Maybe you dont care about potential investors like me. Then keep doing what you are doing and dont answer a single question about anything and just attack the person that asks the question.

My analysis is that the volumes on poloniex was crazy big and I have to assume it was done by insiders. This is not a good sign and combine that with your combative stance and it convinces me to not invest at all.

Your choice if you want to behave in a civilized manner or continue this bully behavior.

James

"Bully behavior."

Well James, I'm sure you can make up your own mind about whether to invest or not.

I guess the basic idea is that I will stand here and act like a punching bag while people take cheap shots at me.

Sounds reasonable.
So you refuse to explain how ACH had 60+ BTC volumes on Poloniex. That is not a cheap shot. That is an observable fact and without a credible explanation clearly indicates manipulation of trading volumes. Now if you are manipulating trading volumes, the question becomes what else is being manipulated.

Being new here, it is your burden to convince the community that you are not doing things you are not supposed to. This defensive behavior just reminds people here of prior experiences not so positive.

Also, all the internal transfers of assets I read about is another quite disturbing thing. It might seem unreasonable to you, but you have a real website and so it is strange that all these funny business things are happening. If you refuse to answer these questions, then I certainly wont buy any ACH

James
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: pf on November 10, 2014, 06:29:58 pm
James, it's been confirmed by Poloniex that the overwhelming majority of that trading activity was conducted by two shill accounts coming from the same IP.
I mean they couldn't even be bright enough to use separate IP's to try and bamboozle us
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 10, 2014, 06:31:19 pm
Au contrare, "BigTed", are you saying that ACH did not in fact inflate the volume on Poloniex intentionally??

I don't recall mentioning "Poloniex" at all. Why would I?

In any event, I suggest you read the helpful moderator posts about leaving 'constructive' criticisms. They banned "weekendwarrior" already today and they may do the same for you.
since you are new here, maybe you dont know who I am. I have been known to buy big amounts of assets, but your behavior is quite a turnoff to me.

Maybe you dont care about potential investors like me. Then keep doing what you are doing and dont answer a single question about anything and just attack the person that asks the question.

My analysis is that the volumes on poloniex was crazy big and I have to assume it was done by insiders. This is not a good sign and combine that with your combative stance and it convinces me to not invest at all.

Your choice if you want to behave in a civilized manner or continue this bully behavior.

James

"Bully behavior."

Well James, I'm sure you can make up your own mind about whether to invest or not.

I guess the basic idea is that I will stand here and act like a punching bag while people take cheap shots at me.

Sounds reasonable.
So you refuse to explain how ACH had 60+ BTC volumes on Poloniex. That is not a cheap shot. That is an observable fact and without a credible explanation clearly indicates manipulation of trading volumes. Now if you are manipulating trading volumes, the question becomes what else is being manipulated.

Being new here, it is your burden to convince the community that you are not doing things you are not supposed to. This defensive behavior just reminds people here of prior experiences not so positive.

Also, all the internal transfers of assets I read about is another quite disturbing thing. It might seem unreasonable to you, but you have a real website and so it is strange that all these funny business things are happening. If you refuse to answer these questions, then I certainly wont buy any ACH

James

James, it's cool man. If you aren't comfortable buying, don't buy.

I'm really not trying to be rude here, but it's cool.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: trollstocker on November 10, 2014, 06:32:24 pm
James, it's been confirmed by Poloniex that the overwhelming majority of that trading activity was conducted by two shill accounts coming from the same IP.
I mean they couldn't even be bright enough to use separate IP's to try and bamboozle us


I would be very interested to see the official statement from Poloniex please!..These are very serious matters..TIA
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: VanBreuk on November 10, 2014, 06:32:46 pm
Au contrare, "BigTed", are you saying that ACH did not in fact inflate the volume on Poloniex intentionally??

I don't recall mentioning "Poloniex" at all. Why would I?

In any event, I suggest you read the helpful moderator posts about leaving 'constructive' criticisms. They banned "weekendwarrior" already today and they may do the same for you.

Can people please have a response to the presented questions?

If there is already a post that addresses what jefdiesel, pf and others are asking about, people that have recently joined the discussion and do not have time to read the whole topic will really appreciate it.

Actually I hold some shares myself and I'd like to have a simple link that addresses those questions. It would certainly help more than sarcasm.

No dude. I'm sorry, but I can't sign off on this double standard.

I was told NOT to post in "printshops" thread and yet I have to answer questions from jefdiesel and pf.

I've been doing my best to contain this whole mess but it appears there's no way to do it.

Which double standard? Have you or printshop been banned from posting on each other's threads at all, in spite of all the aggressivity and the several interventions by Damelon? Or you're referring to the temporary ban of weekendwarrior, for the reasons already posted?

I'm simply suggesting to address those questions because, as far as I can see, the evidence jefdiesel presents is worth addressing. Altcoinherald has been civil and respectful in her communications and I see no reason for any conflicts to continue if the accusations you call false are refuted right away. But if they are not refuted, why would you expect people to spontaneously forget about them?
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 10, 2014, 06:40:29 pm
Au contrare, "BigTed", are you saying that ACH did not in fact inflate the volume on Poloniex intentionally??

I don't recall mentioning "Poloniex" at all. Why would I?

In any event, I suggest you read the helpful moderator posts about leaving 'constructive' criticisms. They banned "weekendwarrior" already today and they may do the same for you.

Can people please have a response to the presented questions?

If there is already a post that addresses what jefdiesel, pf and others are asking about, people that have recently joined the discussion and do not have time to read the whole topic will really appreciate it.

Actually I hold some shares myself and I'd like to have a simple link that addresses those questions. It would certainly help more than sarcasm.

No dude. I'm sorry, but I can't sign off on this double standard.

I was told NOT to post in "printshops" thread and yet I have to answer questions from jefdiesel and pf.

I've been doing my best to contain this whole mess but it appears there's no way to do it.

Which double standard? Have you or printshop been banned from posting on each other's threads at all, in spite of all the aggressivity and the several interventions by Damelon? Or you're referring to the temporary ban of weekendwarrior, for the reasons already posted?

I'm simply suggesting to address those questions because, as far as I can see, the evidence jefdiesel presents is worth addressing. Altcoinherald has been civil and respectful in her communications and I see no reason for any conflicts to continue if the accusations you call false are refuted right away. But if they are not refuted, why would you expect people to spontaneously forget about them?

Do you enjoy being attacked?
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: pf on November 10, 2014, 06:42:19 pm
James, it's been confirmed by Poloniex that the overwhelming majority of that trading activity was conducted by two shill accounts coming from the same IP.
I mean they couldn't even be bright enough to use separate IP's to try and bamboozle us
How about some comment on this, BigTed?
So not only do you manipulate the AE volume then lie about it, but you also do the same on Poloniex? I am amazed we've let this thread go on for this long without labelling your entire asset a SCAM.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: VanBreuk on November 10, 2014, 06:43:04 pm
Do you enjoy being attacked?

Excuse me? :)

Am I attacking you for asking you to please share an answer for those accusations, if there is one?
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 10, 2014, 06:44:22 pm
Do you enjoy being attacked?

Excuse me? :)

Am I attacking you for asking you to please share an answer for those accusations, if there is one?

I asked you a simple question. Do you enjoy being attacked?
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: pf on November 10, 2014, 06:45:20 pm
lol
BigTed is haxorzzzzz
but too dumb to use two different IPs when he manipulates the volume on Poloniex.
Part of me hopes that maybe you're the idiocy behind this operation and maybe Heather doesn't actually know how stupid you're behaving, but I kinda doubt that's the case.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 10, 2014, 06:46:30 pm
lol
BigTed is haxorzzzzz
but too dumb to use two different IPs when he manipulates the volume on Poloniex.
Part of me hopes that maybe you're the idiocy behind this operation and maybe Heather doesn't actually know how stupid you're behaving, but I kinda doubt that's the case.

Say what? I wasn't talking about that type of "attack" to be clear. I asked him if he enjoyed being verbally attacked.

Because I'm confident most people don't like it.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 10, 2014, 06:48:04 pm
lol
BigTed is haxorzzzzz
but too dumb to use two different IPs when he manipulates the volume on Poloniex.
Part of me hopes that maybe you're the idiocy behind this operation and maybe Heather doesn't actually know how stupid you're behaving, but I kinda doubt that's the case.

This has been one of your themes for awhile. How "stupid" we are. Yes, "pf", you're dealing with very dumb people. You're alone in your intelligence living at your parent's house.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: pf on November 10, 2014, 06:50:41 pm
lol
BigTed is haxorzzzzz
but too dumb to use two different IPs when he manipulates the volume on Poloniex.
Part of me hopes that maybe you're the idiocy behind this operation and maybe Heather doesn't actually know how stupid you're behaving, but I kinda doubt that's the case.

This has been one of your themes for awhile. How "stupid" we are. Yes, "pf", you're dealing with very dumb people. You're alone in your intelligence living at your parent's house.
Well really man, didn't you think that it might be a bit obvious that you're manipulating things again when you did 50 btc of trading between two poloniex accounts with the same IP?
Right after you did the same thing on the nxt blockchain with the AE?
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 10, 2014, 06:52:59 pm
lol
BigTed is haxorzzzzz
but too dumb to use two different IPs when he manipulates the volume on Poloniex.
Part of me hopes that maybe you're the idiocy behind this operation and maybe Heather doesn't actually know how stupid you're behaving, but I kinda doubt that's the case.

This has been one of your themes for awhile. How "stupid" we are. Yes, "pf", you're dealing with very dumb people. You're alone in your intelligence living at your parent's house.
Well really man, didn't you think that it might be a bit obvious that you're manipulating things again when you did 50 btc of trading between two poloniex accounts with the same IP?
Right after you did the same thing on the nxt blockchain with the AE?

"I" haven't done shit wrong.

This is the first I'm hearing about these new "accusations" and I had nothing to do with it.

I am definitely not manipulating any markets.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: pf on November 10, 2014, 06:55:16 pm
"I" am done posting in this thread, hopefully VanBreuk manages to sort this mess out somehow.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: VanBreuk on November 10, 2014, 06:57:55 pm
Do you enjoy being attacked?

Excuse me? :)

Am I attacking you for asking you to please share an answer for those accusations, if there is one?

I asked you a simple question. Do you enjoy being attacked?

I asked a simple question right before yours, so I'm starting to take your reply as a negative to answer my question.

I don't enjoy being attacked. But I will try to stay lucid enough to realize when what I perceive as "attacks" have a reason to be, and try to solve the problem. Precisely so people will stop pushing me.

In this case solving the problem and ceasing what you perceive as attacks involves providing a reply to the claims made by others. Can you or any other spokesperson for ACH do this?
 
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: profitofthegods on November 10, 2014, 07:01:17 pm
(http://ih3.redbubble.net/image.4662053.7432/sticker,375x360.png)
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 10, 2014, 07:05:32 pm
Do you enjoy being attacked?

Excuse me? :)

Am I attacking you for asking you to please share an answer for those accusations, if there is one?

I asked you a simple question. Do you enjoy being attacked?

I asked a simple question right before yours, so I'm starting to take your reply as a negative to answer my question.

I don't enjoy being attacked. But I will try to stay lucid enough to realize when what I perceive as "attacks" have a reason to be, and try to solve the problem. Precisely so people will stop pushing me.

In this case solving the problem and ceasing what you perceive as attacks involves providing a reply to the claims made by others. Can you or any other spokesperson for ACH do this?

Nobody likes being attacked. That includes you, me, and everyone else on earth.

Our spokesperson did her best to keep communications level headed and professional.

I, on the other hand, have been extremely offended by the way forum members are addressing us here and I haven't been willing to take it.

As far as the new round of 'accusations.' No, I haven't manipulated Poloniex. AFAIK there's no advantage to doing that.

Nobody is manipulating any markets to the best of my knowledge. We're doing our thing and the chips can fall where they may.

Our goals for raising funds on the Secure Asset Exchange fell way short of where we would have liked and we've spent three months defending ourselves.

That said, we still have to pay out the dividends every two weeks and there are over 100 ACH asset holders who need to communicate with us.

That's the only reason this thread was re-opened. Instead, it's been a repeat/recap of the same type of action since 09/01/2014.

Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: jefdiesel on November 10, 2014, 08:00:29 pm
I am not attacking. I am asking questions. If you would answer them and not attack me in return, then we could make some headway.

here is the record of transactions. these are all public on the block chain.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1whEylR0buEZ72M8N0quPjQ5Cu_7rhWXzPcy1UgUPvaY/edit?usp=sharing

page one shows 51 linked transactions totaling 681,895.00NXT being sent from the ACH issuing account to the combination of 6 accounts, including 1 main "mixer" account that does nothing but forward funds to the other 5 accounts.
These other 5 accounts then purchased ACH shares and almost nothing else.
Heather "explained" these other accounts as being a "private purchase by a German investor", but I see nothing to show any sales, including ZERO transfer of funds in.

Can you please explain these transfers? and the methodology?

Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 10, 2014, 08:17:38 pm
I am not attacking. I am asking questions. If you would answer them and not attack me in return, then we could make some headway.

here is the record of transactions. these are all public on the block chain.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1whEylR0buEZ72M8N0quPjQ5Cu_7rhWXzPcy1UgUPvaY/edit?usp=sharing

page one shows 51 linked transactions totaling 681,895.00NXT being sent from the ACH issuing account to the combination of 6 accounts, including 1 main "mixer" account that does nothing but forward funds to the other 5 accounts.
These other 5 accounts then purchased ACH shares and almost nothing else.
Heather "explained" these other accounts as being a "private purchase by a German investor", but I see nothing to show any sales, including ZERO transfer of funds in.

Can you please explain these transfers? and the methodology?

No, sorry I don't have any information for you. There are six total people involved with ACH. Writing articles/doing social promotions is my primary responsibility.

I have no trading wallets and no information on any of them.

BTW, I can't find any text where Heather referred to "German" investors.  I believe she already answered this question and stated that the private sales were done in a cryptocurrency other than NXT. That would explain why there's no NXT blockchain record of the sales. It wasn't clear to the people involved how the accounting was supposed to be done, so it was done that way.

This question has been answered already, and that's how I understood it.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: jefdiesel on November 10, 2014, 08:25:40 pm
If the transaction was done out of NXT then where is the transfer of assets? Show me that.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: jefdiesel on November 10, 2014, 08:56:29 pm
Hello everyone~

I've already issued the official statement regarding the private sales.

These investors are looking at ACH as a long term investment - from outside the NXT community.

Since you have expressed displeasure we have went ahead and contacted our German investor and told him that we'll
no longer be able to conduct sales on his behalf.

Thanks for your consideration and have a great day.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: JamesList on November 11, 2014, 12:13:26 am
I can't believe that even mom's are involved in these kind of things. Really sad.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: EvilDave on November 11, 2014, 02:11:11 am
Hmmm...think I'll read this f***er and see what comes out.


Well, that was no fun at all.  >:(

I'd managed to miss most of this ACH saga over the last 2 months, (God knows how.... :-\) and have just read the whole bloody thread. Lucky me.....

One question I'd like an honest answer to, from either ACH Heather or BigTed:
Who is responsible for the blatant market manipulation on both the AE and Polo?

Give an honest answer to this and maybe we can move forward, as the rest of the ACH project does look good, if somewhat over-valued.
 
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 11, 2014, 11:48:20 am
If the transaction was done out of NXT then where is the transfer of assets? Show me that.

The passphrase for the accounts was transferred. There's nothing to show.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 11, 2014, 11:53:05 am
Hmmm...think I'll read this f***er and see what comes out.


Well, that was no fun at all.  >:(

I'd managed to miss most of this ACH saga over the last 2 months, (God knows how.... :-\) and have just read the whole bloody thread. Lucky me.....

One question I'd like an honest answer to, from either ACH Heather or BigTed:
Who is responsible for the blatant market manipulation on both the AE and Polo?

Give an honest answer to this and maybe we can move forward, as the rest of the ACH project does look good, if somewhat over-valued.
 

'Give an honest answer to this and maybe we can move forward.'

We're moving forward no matter what. I already answered the questions. In fact, the question that Jef Diesel asked has been answered several times. As to Poloniex, I have no clue about any 'market manipulation.' According to "pf" Poloniex 'confirmed' that someone on an IP manipulated their market.

I have no idea if that even happened. I doubt very much Poloniex would violate their own privacy policy by giving information to a third party. But even if they did, that doesn't mean "ACH" did it.

Nobody is manipulating markets. The questions have been answered repeatedly.

It's time to move forward.

Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: EvilDave on November 12, 2014, 12:11:07 am
Before i start rambling: Hi, Ted, Heather. Wish we were meeting under better circumstances, but hey....

The problem with moving forward from where everyone seems to be now is that we have 2 parties at stand-off, with unresolved issues on both sides.
This is caused by the elephant in the room: the pumping run on the NXT AE and on Poloniex, and the subsequent reactions to these revelations.

I'm going to state that I believe that the AE pump was carried out by ACH themselves (ie Heather, BigTed...persons unknown), but that the Poloniex pump could have been anyone. I've read Heathers response to the initial discovery of the AE pump set-up and the story of a mysterious German investor who needed to harvest ACH in such a complex way doesn't sound all that convincing, but I'm not going to start a witch-hunt here.

Talking of which: there has been too much mudslinging, aggression and general pettinesss in this thread, from both sides.

Altcoin Herald itself seems like a good project, and doesn't really make my sc*m detectors light up.
https://altcoinherald.com/ (https://altcoinherald.com/)  (quick bit of advertising)
The activity round the Asset is indeed dodgy, but it doesn't seem to have resulted in any major change in the position or capitalisation of the ACH asset, or any serious profits for the pumpers.

So, my lazy proposal is:

Lets bury the hatchet, on both sides, with no further argument about it. ACH can relax and go about their business, the anti-ACH side can keep an eye on them, and if anything more goes wrong, we can resume this discussion then.  Call it a ceasefire......
If you need a sports metaphor: look on this pumping event as the yellow card, to be followed by red.

For the people who may protest that we need to protect investors from all dubious Asset issues: We can't save everyone.
Not all businesses are going to be either black or white, good or bad, scam or pure. There will be some grey areas.
Right now, ACH is looking slightly grey, but not so grey that we need to scream "s*am" all over town.
So: all of the information about ACH so far is available to anyone who researches the asset, and if people still wish to buy in, let them.
Who knows, maybe ACH will outgrow this bump on the road.

Thats my lot, and as usual, both sides can now start shouting at me....... ;D


Last thought: we need to have a clear and simple guide to safe (sort of) investing on the AE, maybe available as a sticky on the forum, possibly even available via the client and other sites.
Don't know if Damelon has issued a bounty for it.........something for the asset checking community to get together, maybe?

Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: jefdiesel on November 12, 2014, 02:40:43 am
If the transaction was done out of NXT then where is the transfer of assets? Show me that.

The passphrase for the accounts was transferred. There's nothing to show.

The pass phrase for which specific accounts?

 
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: altcoinherald on November 12, 2014, 02:58:11 pm
Hello everyone~

First, let me say 'thanks' to everyone that has supported ACH thus far - we appreciate your support!

I also wanted to share some important information you need to know about the ACH asset offering.

Altcoin Herald is a unique asset with many strong points.

The strongest asset of all is our service to the altcoin community which began February 2014. We continue to update our blog and social media accounts and engage with numerous people, businesses, and organizations on a daily basis.

Our philosophy is simple - Our goal is to “build bridges and not walls.”

Much of what we do takes hard work and commitment and involves creating and maintaining relationships. Over time, we will prove to be a better investment than the 'too good to be true' schemes, which will be long gone.

Our Toolkit initiative has been taking longer than expected to program, but we added other profit centers to our business plan which are helping to drive revenue while the toolkit is in development.

Our site demographics are strong.

In the last 30 days we've had approximately 147,000 page views.

Additionally, our Social Platforms continue to grow with 9,000 real engaged users following us on social media.

With that, We've built an extensive list of industry contacts. We continue to optimize multiple sales funnels, which are the key to revenue growth. All systems are go and we're executing our plan.

While our asset is not a 'get rich quick' asset like many you'll find online, our long term dedication to the project will provide steady returns to anyone that decides they'd like to get involved with our Revenue Share offering.

You can count on us showing up for work every single day and put in a strong effort to achieve our goals, which is to continuously grow revenues. If we're able to do that, ACH asset holders will end up achieving returns they can be proud of.

Our third “dividend” based on revenues takes place on November 15, 2014. We are executing the same strategy that has been outlined from the beginning.

Thanks again for your consideration and don't forget we'll be paying a bonus to Asset Holders on November 15, 2014, so now's a great time to grab shares.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: BigTed on November 12, 2014, 03:06:32 pm
Grab some extra "Fall" profits the easy way.

(http://i.imgur.com/bysHbas.jpg)
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: SamIbandii on November 15, 2014, 02:09:25 pm
Hello ACH-team,
Thanks the Fall Bonus and mostly for the regular up-dates.

kind regards


Title: Nov. 15, 2014 ACH Next Dividend - Paid!
Post by: altcoinherald on November 15, 2014, 02:11:09 pm
Hello everyone~

Just wanted to update the thread to let you all know that our November 15, 2014 dividend payment was just issued to all asset holders.

Payout is as follows:

11/01/11/15/2014 -

$1728 Total Revenues (Third Bi-Weekly Reporting Period) - Distributed on 11/15/2014

$691.20 - 40% Revenue Share $345.60 - 20% Placed in Reserve

1.76 BTC – Total NXT at .00004930 = 35400 =

Per Asset Share = 34500/5000000 = 0.00708 NXT per ACH

Total Payout: 5685.24 + Bonus + 2500 = 8185.24

If you would more details on ACH, please be sure to visit our Wiki Page for more information: https://alth.co/rDPPI (https://alth.co/rDPPI)

Our next dividend payment will be issued on December 1, 2014.

Thanks again for your continued support of our project - we appreciate it!
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Nov. 15, 2014
Post by: altcoinherald on November 15, 2014, 02:13:17 pm
Hello ACH-team,
Thanks the Fall Bonus and mostly for the regular up-dates.

kind regards

You're very welcome and thanks for your kind words and interest - we appreciate it!

Have a wonderful day Samlbandii!
Title: Re: Nov. 15, 2014 ACH Next Dividend - Paid!
Post by: forfait on November 15, 2014, 08:12:20 pm
Hello everyone~

Just wanted to update the thread to let you all know that our November 15, 2014 dividend payment was just issued to all asset holders.

Payout is as follows:

11/01/11/15/2014 -

$1728 Total Revenues (Third Bi-Weekly Reporting Period) - Distributed on 11/15/2014

$691.20 - 40% Revenue Share $345.60 - 20% Placed in Reserve

1.76 BTC – Total NXT at .00004930 = 35400 =

Per Asset Share = 34500/5000000 = 0.00708 NXT per ACH

Total Payout: 5685.24 + Bonus + 2500 = 8185.24

If you would more details on ACH, please be sure to visit our Wiki Page for more information: https://alth.co/rDPPI (https://alth.co/rDPPI)

Our next dividend payment will be issued on December 1, 2014.

Thanks again for your continued support of our project - we appreciate it!


So, asset issuer is NXT-V9ND-E489-AXUL-5HH5Q, but payout came from here NXT-L7EX-CN4P-FFXB-72VMP ?
Title: Re: Nov. 15, 2014 ACH Next Dividend - Paid!
Post by: kseistrup on November 15, 2014, 08:15:52 pm
So, asset issuer is NXT-V9ND-E489-AXUL-5HH5Q, but payout came from here NXT-L7EX-CN4P-FFXB-72VMP ?

The account NXT-L7EX-CN4P-FFXB-72VMP (http://nxtexplorer.com/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=6543554701870831005&switch=1) is labeled “ACH Dividends”.
Title: Re: Nov. 15, 2014 ACH Next Dividend - Paid!
Post by: forfait on November 15, 2014, 08:24:00 pm
THX, I missed that somehow..
Title: Re: Nov. 15, 2014 ACH Next Dividend - Paid!
Post by: jefdiesel on November 16, 2014, 05:37:09 am
So, asset issuer is NXT-V9ND-E489-AXUL-5HH5Q, but payout came from here NXT-L7EX-CN4P-FFXB-72VMP ?

The account NXT-L7EX-CN4P-FFXB-72VMP (http://nxtexplorer.com/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=6543554701870831005&switch=1) is labeled “ACH Dividends”.

funny, my name for that account is "mixer"
Title: Re: Nov. 15, 2014 ACH Next Dividend - Paid!
Post by: WhiteGold on November 16, 2014, 04:12:08 pm
got my dividend! decent this time around! im holding long term
Title: Re: Nov. 15, 2014 ACH Next Dividend - Paid!
Post by: altcoinherald on November 17, 2014, 02:20:25 pm
got my dividend! decent this time around! im holding long term

Great to hear that you got your dividend!

Thanks again for your support of the ACH project - our next payout is scheduled for December 1.

Remember - the more ACH you hold, the higher your rev share payout will be!

Cheers!

Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Dec. 1, 2014!
Post by: kseistrup on December 28, 2014, 10:51:58 pm
When's the next ACH dividend payout?
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Dec. 1, 2014!
Post by: altcoinherald on December 29, 2014, 01:08:41 pm
Hello there~

The next dividend payout will be distributed on Dec. 31, 2014 then again on January 15, 2015 for our bi-weekly payout schedule.

You can always find updates on the project here: https://alth.co/rDPPI (https://alth.co/rDPPI)

Thanks for your continued interest and hope you're enjoying the holiday season!

Best Regards,
Heather
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Jan. 15, 2015
Post by: profitofthegods on January 15, 2015, 06:14:46 pm
Nice dividend, thanks!
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Jan. 15, 2015
Post by: altcoinherald on January 15, 2015, 07:29:15 pm
Nice dividend, thanks!

Thanks for your kind words..

Cheers!
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Jan. 15, 2015
Post by: oldnoob on January 28, 2015, 12:59:22 pm
Nice dividend, thanks!

Thanks for your kind words..

Cheers!

Why this recent price drop?
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Jan. 31, 2015
Post by: th4o on January 28, 2015, 04:14:17 pm
Someone is dumping a lot

Even the account in altcoinherald user profile (https://nxtforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2527) seems to be dumping ach on an exchange (follow the transfers here (http://nxtreporting.com/?a=NXT-V9ND-E489-AXUL-5HH5Q&c=USD)).
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Jan. 31, 2015
Post by: oldnoob on January 28, 2015, 05:59:55 pm

Transfered more then 4 M Coins the 26th. ??? ??? ???

Well I don't think the dumping does matter, but most important is if dividents are paid.
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Jan. 31, 2015
Post by: maddy83 on January 31, 2015, 08:02:07 am
So altcoinherald, can you tell us what is going on with the asset?

The price is rock bottom. Why are you dumping assets?
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Jan. 31, 2015
Post by: jl777 on January 31, 2015, 08:05:22 am
So altcoinherald, can you tell us what is going on with the asset?

The price is rock bottom. Why are you dumping assets?
issuers who are bullying investors and potential investors is never a good sign: https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=5042.msg128992#msg128992

its the intimidate the critics method
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Jan. 31, 2015
Post by: Daedelus on January 31, 2015, 10:11:14 pm
ACH may want to look here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=942104.0
Title: Re: ACH Next Dividend - Jan. 31, 2015
Post by: fmiboy on February 01, 2015, 06:24:58 am
There is an update.

Update: dividend payment will be delayed slightly due to problems with NXT client issuing dividends.

from https://altcoinherald.com/wiki/index.php?title=ACH (https://altcoinherald.com/wiki/index.php?title=ACH)
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