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« on: August 06, 2014, 02:29:48 am »

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Re: [ANN][OFFERING] Fuzon (FZN) | An Asset Built Upon Success
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2014, 02:57:35 am »

Okay, I wasn't expecting it to go so quickly but the initial offering is over! Thank you  :)

If you feel like you can add value to Fuzon, please contact me. I've already got a list of cryptocurrencies which I am keeping a close eye on. Further details will be posted on here and twitter (until the website is complete).
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Re: [ANN][OFFERING] Fuzon (FZN) | An Asset Built Upon Success
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2014, 02:59:10 am »

wow already sale off, someone bought 9750 shares!
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2014, 03:23:35 am »

whats up with the twitter? not working.
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Re: [ANN][OFFERING] Fuzon (FZN) | An Asset Built Upon Success
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2014, 03:26:09 am »

wow already sale off, someone bought 9750 shares!

thought my 250 shares were bold..
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2014, 03:28:43 am »

wow already sale off, someone bought 9750 shares!

thought my 250 shares were bold..

haha, at least you have some. We are 9 stakeholders for this asset proof-of-concept phase!
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2014, 03:31:25 am »

wow already sale off, someone bought 9750 shares!

thought my 250 shares were bold..
I am pretty sure that was whale. He puts his money on the line so at least we know he is fully motivated to make the fuzon grow

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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2014, 03:32:25 am »

Will this asset pay dividends?
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2014, 03:33:02 am »

wow already sale off, someone bought 9750 shares!

thought my 250 shares were bold..
I am pretty sure that was whale. He puts his money on the line so at least we know he is fully motivated to make the fuzon grow

James

That is good for transparency. If so, I think, he should say so.
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2014, 03:34:00 am »

wow already sale off, someone bought 9750 shares!

thought my 250 shares were bold..

haha, at least you have some. We are 9 stakeholders for this asset proof-of-concept phase!
im trying hard to cement my role as NXT VC.

Not a gambler in real life, but i'll take a 1.25% stake for $100
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2014, 03:34:46 am »

wow already sale off, someone bought 9750 shares!

thought my 250 shares were bold..
I am pretty sure that was whale. He puts his money on the line so at least we know he is fully motivated to make the fuzon grow

James

That is good for transparency. If so, I think, he should say so.
He did "I will also be matching this initial round with 250,000 NXT"
whale will match all amounts sold
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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2014, 03:38:52 am »

It is not clear to me what shares this 250000 NXT is, into the initial 20000 shares that he offers or will it be taken in the 50% shares that he kept for him. In fact, from his second post in this topic, i would not be suprise that the 9750 shares are not from him. Anyway, as a stakeholder (altougth tiny one  :D), I would like to know what whale have to say about this.
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« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2014, 04:06:46 am »

Seb, forget 9 hodlers. looks like its me you whale and james.

long on FUZZION!
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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2014, 04:13:42 am »

Seb, forget 9 hodlers. looks like its me you whale and james.

long on FUZZION!

yeah, that only us active here in the topic, but there in the link it seems that there is 9 hodlers:
https://nxtblocks.info/#section/assets_exchange/stakeholders/5053136014193078855

Unless some of us have more than one address. That might be the case.... I did not take the time to check that.
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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2014, 04:36:37 am »

It is not clear to me what shares this 250000 NXT is, into the initial 20000 shares that he offers or will it be taken in the 50% shares that he kept for him. In fact, from his second post in this topic, i would not be suprise that the 9750 shares are not from him. Anyway, as a stakeholder (altougth tiny one  :D), I would like to know what whale have to say about this.

Sorry. I went out for some food. That 9750 was me. It was meant to be 10,000 but too many people rushed in and nibbled the sell order before I could get some Nxt into my wallet. I wasn't expecting it be gone within minutes...

I'm going to fix up the ANN thread (you all need to follow twitter) and start adding coins over the week. Remember, this is for long term investments but if I feel that a particular investment has peaked, I will sell it to reinvest at a lower price (thus getting a bigger position). Hopefully in a years time we have a big bag of goodies  ;D
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Re: [ANN][OFFERING] Fuzon (FZN) | An Asset Built Upon Success
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2014, 04:40:01 am »

Seb, forget 9 hodlers. looks like its me you whale and james.

long on FUZZION!

What happens if none of us sell? haha.

Twitter link should work now. I recently changed the symbol from XFN to FZN and the link was displaying the wrong symbol.
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Re: [ANN][OFFERING] Fuzon (FZN) | An Asset Built Upon Success
« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2014, 05:04:31 am »

Will this asset pay dividends?

No. But the value of each FZN should continue to grow as more cryptocurrencies are added to the portfolio. It like an all-in-one cryptocurrency.
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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2014, 05:20:52 am »

again, well worth the roll
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« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2014, 05:23:23 am »

Don't understand the 25 NXT valuation. The fund holds 500000 NXT / 100000 shares = 5 NXT
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« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2014, 06:24:06 am »

Don't understand the 25 NXT valuation. The fund holds 500000 NXT / 100000 shares = 5 NXT

To prevent one person from buying the entire amount. Just like any asset/ cryptocurrency, there is a degree of speculation (cryptocurrencies being a prime example). Right now Fuzon is like an empty bucket, but over time it is going to get more and more filled. Hopefully, there will come a point where you won't need to hold various cryptocurrencies, you just need to own Fuzon. The first offering round is not the only way Fuzon is backed. I am actively talking to devs to arrange off the book deals and putting my own BTC profits into the fund as well. Also you are paying for convenience and professionalism. Most people who are new to crypto can't even read the graphs or have any prior knowledge of how the markets behave. Fuzon will bridge this gap. It is basically a foundation for a much greater vision.

I'm going to start making dates and times for twitter announcements. I have 1% of a coin which is being added to the portfolio and I also have another announcement. The twitter announcements are going to be like lucky draws. Some days it will be a small surprise, other days it will be significant. At the end of the day, bags of successful cryptocurrencies are increasing which means your holdings are increasing. Bit by bit.

Finally. Your calculation is correct but there is only 20,000 FZN in circulation. When the future FZN's are put up for sale, they will also bring more Nxt into the portfolio and judging from the speed of the first round, I'll be re-evaluating a higher price for the final offering. Basically I'm saying that you calculated the entire supply, but only 20% of the supply was sold, therefore you would get a price disparity.

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« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2014, 06:35:58 am »

Will 100% of future share sales go towards the fund? If so the way I'm seeing it is you accumulate X amount of NXT via "IPO" and use those funds to manage a diversified crypto portfolio?

Also what is your incentive / commission for doing this.
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« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2014, 07:18:47 am »

Will 100% of future share sales go towards the fund? If so the way I'm seeing it is you accumulate X amount of NXT via "IPO" and use those funds to manage a diversified crypto portfolio?

Also what is your incentive / commission for doing this.

Exactly, all of the sales go into the fund. Because I want the fund to have a large Nxt portfolio, most of the Nxt raised will stay put. The diversification will come from my own dealings. However, if a tempting IPO or new coin is released with high promise, I will use the raised funds to heavily invest. The only cryptocurrency that I have made a loss on this year was XRP (around 50 BTC), which was due to the founder trying to cash out his billions. All of my other long-term holdings have increased.

The incentive is growing the worth of my own investment in FZN and by establishing a respectable foothold in the crypto community. With the amount of scams coming out, we do the due diligence for you (which is why I have a dev in the team). People may only start investing in crypto coins that Fuzon invests in as they know it will be safe. This could give us a strategic position for making deals.
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« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2014, 08:29:13 am »

NXT holders, be careful !  Do not trust strangers on the Internet.
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« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2014, 08:40:18 am »

Seb, forget 9 hodlers. looks like its me you whale and james.

long on FUZZION!

i also managed to buy 200 assets. Should have bought more ...
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« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2014, 04:32:54 pm »

Will 100% of future share sales go towards the fund? If so the way I'm seeing it is you accumulate X amount of NXT via "IPO" and use those funds to manage a diversified crypto portfolio?

Also what is your incentive / commission for doing this.

Exactly, all of the sales go into the fund. Because I want the fund to have a large Nxt portfolio, most of the Nxt raised will stay put. The diversification will come from my own dealings. However, if a tempting IPO or new coin is released with high promise, I will use the raised funds to heavily invest. The only cryptocurrency that I have made a loss on this year was XRP (around 50 BTC), which was due to the founder trying to cash out his billions. All of my other long-term holdings have increased.

The incentive is growing the worth of my own investment in FZN and by establishing a respectable foothold in the crypto community. With the amount of scams coming out, we do the due diligence for you (which is why I have a dev in the team). People may only start investing in crypto coins that Fuzon invests in as they know it will be safe. This could give us a strategic position for making deals.

You mentioned increasing the final IPO share price offering. Would this not provide instant profit for initial investors?

Why not have just released a billion shares at 1 NXT a share so everyone in the community can jump aboard and you will have a TON of starting capital to work with and everyone in the community can benefit(potentially) from this venture. Non sold shares get locked away/burned.
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« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2014, 12:00:39 am »

Will 100% of future share sales go towards the fund? If so the way I'm seeing it is you accumulate X amount of NXT via "IPO" and use those funds to manage a diversified crypto portfolio?

Also what is your incentive / commission for doing this.

Exactly, all of the sales go into the fund. Because I want the fund to have a large Nxt portfolio, most of the Nxt raised will stay put. The diversification will come from my own dealings. However, if a tempting IPO or new coin is released with high promise, I will use the raised funds to heavily invest. The only cryptocurrency that I have made a loss on this year was XRP (around 50 BTC), which was due to the founder trying to cash out his billions. All of my other long-term holdings have increased.

The incentive is growing the worth of my own investment in FZN and by establishing a respectable foothold in the crypto community. With the amount of scams coming out, we do the due diligence for you (which is why I have a dev in the team). People may only start investing in crypto coins that Fuzon invests in as they know it will be safe. This could give us a strategic position for making deals.

You mentioned increasing the final IPO share price offering. Would this not provide instant profit for initial investors?

Why not have just released a billion shares at 1 NXT a share so everyone in the community can jump aboard and you will have a TON of starting capital to work with and everyone in the community can benefit(potentially) from this venture. Non sold shares get locked away/burned.

Because they took the risk, they will get rewarded for it. Although, as mentioned before, I will take many factors into consideration. Right now it is the testing phase to see if I can accomplish what I laid out. Which is why I have called this phase proof-of-concept. I don't want to accept millions of Nxt and not be able to provide value.

I'll definitely weigh up your fairer distribution model but at the end of the day, there is always that one person who misses out.


Right now the FZN shares are trading at 100% of their initial value.
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« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2014, 12:04:27 am »

@whale,

when the website (fuzon.io) is plan to go online? Just a rought approximation would be nice. ty  :)
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« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2014, 12:24:44 am »

@whale,

when the website (fuzon.io) is plan to go online? Just a rought approximation would be nice. ty  :)

I'm having a skype session with the developer now. We've already talked but I just want to ensure that he captures the professionalism that I am trying to convey. After we finish I should have a better approximation, but I think from my last call with him it was going to take 4-7 days.
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« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2014, 04:49:34 am »

I've identified a few candidates. If you want a pre-announcement list, please PM me. Still working out ratios and not all of the crytos are confirmed. Any input from investors is welcome :)

An official announcement will be made soon.
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« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2014, 11:19:05 am »

Just letting everyone know that I am sending some NXT from the Fuzon account to make our first purchase.
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« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2014, 03:22:56 am »

Just a quick update

I have successfully purchase 5000 BTCD. There is a slight discrepancy in the total (it will work out to be more Nxt than what we should actually have) because I topped up the amount with my own BTCD holdings.
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« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2014, 03:26:14 am »

all the Nxt you raise were invest in BTCD?
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« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2014, 03:31:08 am »

all the Nxt you raise were invest in BTCD?

No we still have 300,000 NXT. I have provided a breakdown in the OP  :)

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« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2014, 03:32:16 am »

all the Nxt you raise were invest in BTCD?

No we still have 300,000 NXT. I have provided a breakdown in the OP  :)

thanks, your statement "it will work out to be more Nxt than what we should actually have" made me thought otherwise.
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« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2014, 03:39:20 am »

all the Nxt you raise were invest in BTCD?

No we still have 300,000 NXT. I have provided a breakdown in the OP  :)

thanks, your statement "it will work out to be more Nxt than what we should actually have" made me thought otherwise.

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There is a slight discrepancy in the total (it will work out to be more Nxt than what we should actually have) because I topped up the amount with my own BTCD holdings.

I'm basically saying, if you break down the 5000 BTCD into Nxt and include 300,000 Nxt (which we currently hold), it will work out to be over the initial 500,000 Nxt that we started with.

Let me know if you have any further questions  :)

PS. Down payment for the website has been made. We should have it within the week. Then I will approach Poloniex about listing Fuzon as I am getting some messages on Bitcointalk from Bitcoiners who can't work out the Nxt AE. Conclusively, I have identified a barrier to getting more investors onboard.

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« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2014, 03:45:32 am »

it would be nice if you could tell us every week (for example, every monday, you decide) what is the approximating value in BTC that do back 1 FZN that is in circulation. Otherwise it make us difficult for the stakeholder to evaluate the value of the fund.

Total aproximate value in BTC of the fuzon fund would be very nice too.
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« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2014, 04:24:16 am »

it would be nice if you could tell us every week (for example, every monday, you decide) what is the approximating value in BTC that do back 1 FZN that is in circulation. Otherwise it make us difficult for the stakeholder to evaluate the value of the fund.

Total aproximate value in BTC of the fuzon fund would be very nice too.

Thank you for the suggestion.

The website will display the follow pairs live: FZN/ NXT, FZN/ BTC, FZN/ USD, FZN/CNY

I just need to work out where we're going to source the information from without an exchange, so I'm going to be in talks with a Busoni.
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« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2014, 08:42:26 am »

When will the second round be offered? I wanted to invest but missed it since the first round was sold out within quite a short time  ;)
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« Reply #38 on: August 08, 2014, 10:04:42 am »

When will the second round be offered? I wanted to invest but missed it since the first round was sold out within quite a short time  ;)

My apologies, I've had a few people upset about missing out and I haven't been able to provide a definite time or price. If what I plan happens and everything slides into place, we'll be looking at a very healthy return which means I might open up the second round after then. Like I said, I want to ensure that what I do provides value for everyone before I open it to the wider public. Until then, the best bet is by placing an order. Be sure to follow our twitter @fuzonFZN as it will be announced on there first.

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« Reply #39 on: August 08, 2014, 11:07:44 am »

When will the second round be offered? I wanted to invest but missed it since the first round was sold out within quite a short time  ;)

My apologies, I've had a few people upset about missing out and I haven't been able to provide a definite time or price. If what I plan happens and everything slides into place, we'll be looking at a very healthy return which means I might open up the second round after then. Like I said, I want to ensure that what I do provides value for everyone before I open it to the wider public. Until then, the best bet is by placing an order. Be sure to follow our twitter @fuzonFZN as it will be announced on there first.

Why not to announce here firstly?
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« Reply #40 on: August 08, 2014, 11:48:30 am »

When will the second round be offered? I wanted to invest but missed it since the first round was sold out within quite a short time  ;)

My apologies, I've had a few people upset about missing out and I haven't been able to provide a definite time or price. If what I plan happens and everything slides into place, we'll be looking at a very healthy return which means I might open up the second round after then. Like I said, I want to ensure that what I do provides value for everyone before I open it to the wider public. Until then, the best bet is by placing an order. Be sure to follow our twitter @fuzonFZN as it will be announced on there first.

Why not to announce here firstly?

All announcements go through twitter first and then I proceed to announce them on the forums. The difference would be within minutes. Since the next offering is a larger quantity, I'm hoping it lasts a little longer. Generally, no matter what forum you are on, as long as you have twitter and follow @fuzonFZN, you will get everything near real-time. It is a more open platform for announcements and it also prevents any favoritism between the communities.

For people who do not have twitter, I may implement email notifications through the website but we'll see what happens  :)
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« Reply #41 on: August 08, 2014, 12:01:30 pm »

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My apologies, I've had a few people upset about missing out and I haven't been able to provide a definite time or price. If what I plan happens and everything slides into place, we'll be looking at a very healthy return which means I might open up the second round after then. Like I said, I want to ensure that what I do provides value for everyone before I open it to the wider public. Until then, the best bet is by placing an order. Be sure to follow our twitter @fuzonFZN as it will be announced on there first.


No need to apologize, glad you sold your assets that fast.

Nevertheless I ask you to make an announcment of the next sales round, would be cool  ;)
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« Reply #42 on: August 08, 2014, 12:33:05 pm »

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My apologies, I've had a few people upset about missing out and I haven't been able to provide a definite time or price. If what I plan happens and everything slides into place, we'll be looking at a very healthy return which means I might open up the second round after then. Like I said, I want to ensure that what I do provides value for everyone before I open it to the wider public. Until then, the best bet is by placing an order. Be sure to follow our twitter @fuzonFZN as it will be announced on there first.


No need to apologize, glad you sold your assets that fast.

Nevertheless I ask you to make an announcment of the next sales round, would be cool  ;)

Don't worry, I'll make sure everyone is informed. I'll likely make a pre-announcement so everyone can mark it down on their calendars. I would like to try to get on poloniex beforehand as well for the bitcoiners. A lot of them missed out because they couldn't figure out what to do on the NXT AE. But yeah, I'll sort it out  :)
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« Reply #43 on: August 08, 2014, 01:24:51 pm »

it would be nice if you could tell us every week (for example, every monday, you decide) what is the approximating value in BTC that do back 1 FZN that is in circulation. Otherwise it make us difficult for the stakeholder to evaluate the value of the fund.

Total aproximate value in BTC of the fuzon fund would be very nice too.

Thank you for the suggestion.

The website will display the follow pairs live: FZN/ NXT, FZN/ BTC, FZN/ USD, FZN/CNY

I just need to work out where we're going to source the information from without an exchange, so I'm going to be in talks with a Busoni.

sorry whale, I'm not sure you understood. I want to know the value that "back" FZN fund (in total BTC), not the value at which it is exchange. That will avoid us to make manually the computation from the coin in the fund. Is that what you understood from my message?
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« Reply #44 on: August 09, 2014, 05:51:52 am »

it would be nice if you could tell us every week (for example, every monday, you decide) what is the approximating value in BTC that do back 1 FZN that is in circulation. Otherwise it make us difficult for the stakeholder to evaluate the value of the fund.

Total aproximate value in BTC of the fuzon fund would be very nice too.

Thank you for the suggestion.

The website will display the follow pairs live: FZN/ NXT, FZN/ BTC, FZN/ USD, FZN/CNY

I just need to work out where we're going to source the information from without an exchange, so I'm going to be in talks with a Busoni.

sorry whale, I'm not sure you understood. I want to know the value that "back" FZN fund (in total BTC), not the value at which it is exchange. That will avoid us to make manually the computation from the coin in the fund. Is that what you understood from my message?

Ahh got it. The 'actual' value. I'll sort that out. I might try to do that on the website but if not I'll add a section to the OP. After I cash out an investment, I'm going to put up a large buy wall at the 'actual value' price to let people get out if they want, otherwise they can stay onboard and begin speculating for the next rise. I think I'll call these train stops. After the buy wall disappears, the speculation will begin again.

For example, once we cash out of BTCD and hypothetically, if the total Fuzon balance is 1 million Nxt. I'll place a 1 million Nxt buy at 50 (similar to what SharkFund does).
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« Reply #45 on: August 09, 2014, 12:35:45 pm »

I'll have an announcement for everyone soon.


Hint: Expect a lot more people buying up FZN  ;)
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« Reply #46 on: August 09, 2014, 09:52:13 pm »

When is soon?? I'm going to sleep now.... (Europe)
Better not announce it while i'm asleep!!!! Already missed round #1  :'(
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« Reply #47 on: August 09, 2014, 10:43:58 pm »

When is soon?? I'm going to sleep now.... (Europe)
Better not announce it while i'm asleep!!!! Already missed round #1  :'(

Get some sleep. If it is an offering round, there will be a 24 hour warning :)
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« Reply #48 on: August 10, 2014, 04:00:36 am »

When is soon?? I'm going to sleep now.... (Europe)
Better not announce it while i'm asleep!!!! Already missed round #1  :'(

Get some sleep. If it is an offering round, there will be a 24 hour warning :)

I want in. :)
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« Reply #49 on: August 10, 2014, 11:07:59 am »

When is soon?? I'm going to sleep now.... (Europe)
Better not announce it while i'm asleep!!!! Already missed round #1  :'(

Get some sleep. If it is an offering round, there will be a 24 hour warning :)

I want in. :)

I'm just waiting for confirmation on something and then I'll announce the next round.
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« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2014, 02:44:42 am »

Thank you everyone for your patience. I promise there will be two announcements soon  :)

Just a quick update, our first investment in BTCD has more than doubled the 200,000 Nxt invested. Actively looking at three other coins but the Nxt price is currently unfavorable for a 300,000 Nxt dumping. One of the announcements will look to solve this.
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Re: [ANN] Fuzon (FZN) | Nxt AE & Poloniex | An Asset Built Upon Succes
« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2014, 12:45:44 am »

First announcement

Fuzon (FZN) is now trading on Poloniex! https://www.poloniex.com/exchange/btc_fzn
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« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2014, 05:26:36 am »

Second announcement

We are opening up our second offering round. This round has been rushed forward for mainly two reasons that are listed below. As I have pushed this round forward, we will only be offering 15,000 FZN at a reasonable price that reflects the current valuation.

- We currently hold no BTC which is needed for 99% of altcoin trading, therefore I would need to drop 300,000 Nxt into the Bter books which would drastically hurt the price at this delicate time.
- First round investors are either not selling (causing the price to inflate) or they are capitalizing on their position (the lowest sell right now is 10 times their initial investment).

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11am 13 August 2014 UTC

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Nxt AE (5000 FZN) 35 Nxt/ FZN SOLD OUT
Poloniex (10,000 FZN) 0.0021 BTC/ FZN
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The 5000 Fuzon on Nxt were instantly sold out  :o There are still some Fuzon on https://www.poloniex.com/exchange/btc_fzn
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Strange - when I placed my buy orders the cumulative total of all the orders (including mine) at the 35 price was less than 5000 FZN. I double-checked  once my bid transactions had been confirmed and the cumulative total was still less than 5000. I guess I must be overlooking something, but what?
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Strange - when I placed my buy orders the cumulative total of all the orders (including mine) at the 35 price was less than 5000 FZN. I double-checked  once my bid transactions had been confirmed and the cumulative total was still less than 5000. I guess I must be overlooking something, but what?

I think someone used a bot. A ~1600 Fuzon (I can't remember the exact amount) buy popped up as soon as I placed the 5000 Fuzon bid.

The best bet right now is to get some FZN from Poloniex.com or hope someone sells on NXT AE :)
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Strange - when I placed my buy orders the cumulative total of all the orders (including mine) at the 35 price was less than 5000 FZN. I double-checked  once my bid transactions had been confirmed and the cumulative total was still less than 5000. I guess I must be overlooking something, but what?

I think someone used a bot. A ~1600 Fuzon (I can't remember the exact amount) buy popped up as soon as I placed the 5000 Fuzon bid.

The best bet right now is to get some FZN from Poloniex.com or hope someone sells on NXT AE :)

the bot I have developed, I offer it soon on the AE  ;)
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Shouldn't the order in which bids are filled be as per the order of the bids actually showing on the AE?
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When I placed the order i was in for the full 1000, but only ended up with 150...

How does a BOT slip in at the top?  Did it Bid 35.1?
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Five minutes before 11 UTC, there were orders at 35 NXT for (cumulative) 4550 fuzon. The last ones were 36 - 60 - 20 fuzon.

At the last moment (I have no precise hour) an order for 1640 fuzon at 35.05 came. So it have been placed on top by AE, and just the selling of 5000 fuzon at 35 has been launched.
This ended with the second 1000 order cut in 150 sealed and 850 left...
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So, in any future round of fixed price offering by an Asset Issuer, ordinary bidders will now have to allow for the possibility that there could be a bot buy order at a slightly higher price to the fixed price offering which comes in the closing minutes/seconds before the Asset Issuer executes his sell order.

Anyone thinking of placing a bid in the ordinary way will therefore have to guesstimate by how much any bot order would be above the fixed price offering and bid higher; moreover, they would have to place their bids at the last possible minute otherwise they would risk their bids being left wholly/partly unfilled because the bot bidder, seeing their bids displayed on the AE would, if he had time, simply increase his bid accordingly.

To ensure a level playing field, either bids higher than the fixed price should not be filled or we'll all have to use the bot developed by Stadtfeger.
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It seems like AE should be designed to first fill orders as they were received, rather than attempting to fill highest price first.
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First orders makes no sense. Highest prices are the priority
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Not against a buy order that is higher than the ask price, and there are pre-existing orders at the ask price.  Still say the priority is first come, first serve when the price of the sell order is fixed... Unless the seller got the higher price automatically?
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Highest bid wins if the seller actually gets the full bid and not the asking price.
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PS if highest bid wins and seller gets full bid, then there might be a way to abuse the bot's logic in the favor of the seller, while still filling orders placed by us humans....  ;)
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in any market book the highest bid will win. It makes no sense otherwise.

Imagine a room full of traders, Seller says "Starts at $1" and all these jackets are in a line with their dollars, and another buyer says "I'll pay $5", of course the seller is going to turn to the high bidder. If the high bidder only takes part of the order, then the line of $1 jerks will come right after him, in order as before.
Unless someone from that line jumps up and says $2, then he'll be in front for the scraps, unless someone else says $3 etc..

Remember bids are in, but the sale doesn't happen until the NEXT block comes down.
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This seems unfair for all who were discarded of the AE selling by the "bot", but right now there are more than 8,400 fuzon to sell at 0,0021 BTC on Poloniex!  ;)

So all those who want to be in can be. Second chance!  :D
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Five minutes before 11 UTC, there were orders at 35 NXT for (cumulative) 4550 fuzon. The last ones were 36 - 60 - 20 fuzon.

At the last moment (I have no precise hour) an order for 1640 fuzon at 35.05 came. So it have been placed on top by AE, and just the selling of 5000 fuzon at 35 has been launched.
This ended with the second 1000 order cut in 150 sealed and 850 left...

This is basically what happened. Luckily there is still Fuzon available on Poloniex :)

A lot of people I spoke to in the troll box think Fuzon is a premined coin... I think I need to do some advertising to squash that Bitcoin mentality. Right now we really need BTC invested for the second picking. So far we've only raised 3.3 BTC.... So I may need to sell some Nxt.
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I'd be willing to purchase some for BTC if the price is right
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Upon next distribution, my suggestion is to setup a price ladder to thwart the bots.  Post the highest rung on the ladder first, then the second, etc.  The bots get to pay the most amount of money, while us minnows get the low price. ;)  Assuming the bots don't buy everything up at the highest rung!

Or, just announce how much you'll be selling and not a price.  Let the market decide the price by placing buy orders.

First one is thwarting the bots, second one is catering to them.  If you don't want to do either, there's always the possibility of setting up a silent auction.
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Upon next distribution, my suggestion is to setup a price ladder to thwart the bots.  Post the highest rung on the ladder first, then the second, etc.  The bots get to pay the most amount of money, while us minnows get the low price. ;)  Assuming the bots don't buy everything up at the highest rung!

Or, just announce how much you'll be selling and not a price.  Let the market decide the price by placing buy orders.

First one is thwarting the bots, second one is catering to them.  If you don't want to do either, there's always the possibility of setting up a silent auction.

Yeah I wasn't expecting a bot to scoop up all the FZN. Your suggestions have been noted :)

I'll likely do one more small BTC round in 1-2 months time and then the final round after we have created some real value. I'm aiming for the final round to be around 100+ Nxt/ FZN so we have a decent trading chest. Also once a month, I'll place a large buy order up at the current value so those of you who want out, can do so easily.
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Anybody else notice that fuzon.io is taken by a PoW coin that launched a few months ago? lol  Looks like they're using stock images for their "development team"!
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Anybody else notice that fuzon.io is taken by a PoW coin that launched a few months ago? lol  Looks like they're using stock images for their "development team"!

Lol. No I gave the developer a heap of website examples for the construction of fuzon.io, it looks like he is using excerpts from mincoin and viacoin. It is just the base, it will look much better soon  :)
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Anybody else notice that fuzon.io is taken by a PoW coin that launched a few months ago? lol  Looks like they're using stock images for their "development team"!

Lol. No I gave the developer a heap of website examples for the construction of fuzon.io, it looks like he is using excerpts from mincoin and viacoin. It is just the base, it will look much better soon  :)

Good to hear. :)
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Someone was kind enough to sell for 39, so I snatched up some of those. :)  Thank you!
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I'm thinking of putting some of the FZN on poloniex onto the Nxt AE. Does everyone agree?

No one really understands what it is and most of them think it is a premined altcoin  ???  I would rather focus on marketing later and get some more coin positions.

The fund currently consists of Nxt, BTCD and X (I'll announce this coin at a later date, timing is everything). Looking to add another 1-2 coins over the next week. I'm currently reviewing 13 coins....  :-\
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No one really understands what it is and most of them think it is a premined altcoin  ??? 
Website fuzon.io looks like that.
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I'm thinking of putting some of the FZN on poloniex onto the Nxt AE. Does everyone agree?

No one really understands what it is and most of them think it is a premined altcoin  ???  I would rather focus on marketing later and get some more coin positions.

The fund currently consists of Nxt, BTCD and X (I'll announce this coin at a later date, timing is everything). Looking to add another 1-2 coins over the next week. I'm currently reviewing 13 coins....  :-\

When will you add the asset to the NXT AE? Hopefully I can get some this time...... Fucking bots..
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Yeah whale, whats up with

fuzon.io

same logo but all kinds of coin talk block times etc..
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I'm thinking of putting some of the FZN on poloniex onto the Nxt AE. Does everyone agree?

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dude you need to pay your webmatser!

I think he is taking some kind of revenge on you?

The proper way to build the website is to have a under construction page and build the site on a sub domain or test site and then transfer the finished project to main site.

This is a publicly funded project NXT community has already supported you and you need to show a certain level of accountability and professionalism.

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Yeah whale, whats up with

fuzon.io

same logo but all kinds of coin talk block times etc..

Anybody else notice that fuzon.io is taken by a PoW coin that launched a few months ago? lol  Looks like they're using stock images for their "development team"!

Lol. No I gave the developer a heap of website examples for the construction of fuzon.io, it looks like he is using excerpts from mincoin and viacoin. It is just the base, it will look much better soon  :)


I have already requested an 'Under Construction' page from the web developer. Hopefully it is up soon.
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dude you need to pay your webmatser!

I think he is taking some kind of revenge on you?

The proper way to build the website is to have a under construction page and build the site on a sub domain or test site and then transfer the finished project to main site.

This is a publicly funded project NXT community has already supported you and you need to show a certain level of accountability and professionalism.

In a little over a week, I wasn't expecting two sell-out rounds on the Nxt AE, raising ~850,000 Nxt, making ~150,000 Nxt profit on our holdings, getting listed on Poloniex as the second ever Nxt AE asset, soon to be listed on coinmarketcap while finalizing a previous project. So forgive me for not putting my 'troll' webmaster into place to get an 'under construction' banner up sooner. I paid more than his typical upfront payment and he has already been notified about hiding the site until it is finished. I'm hoping that it will be done promptly.

I'll let Fuzon's performance display the accountability and professionalism that you are after. After all, I've been in this game for years and James has arguably the most experience in listing and maintaining assets on the Nxt AE in the community. Thank you for your concern, but I think we know a thing or two on what we're doing   ;)
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We'll have another announcement soon.

Furthermore, I'll be moving 2000 FZN from Poloniex to the Nxt AE within the next 6 hours. The price will be 35 Nxt/ FZN.
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We'll have another announcement soon.

Furthermore, I'll be moving 2000 FZN from Poloniex to the Nxt AE within the next 6 hours. The price will be 35 Nxt/ FZN.

Ready your bots! lol  Now I feel bad for buying at 40 over the last couple days!  But I'm sure the price will go up higher than that given some time. ;)
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We'll have another announcement soon.

Furthermore, I'll be moving 2000 FZN from Poloniex to the Nxt AE within the next 6 hours. The price will be 35 Nxt/ FZN.

Ready your bots! lol  Now I feel bad for buying at 40 over the last couple days!  But I'm sure the price will go up higher than that given some time. ;)

I've been hooked on the hostage negotiations! Hopefully all promises are fulfilled and we can move on from it.

I think our highest buy was 125 after the first round, so I wouldn't be too worried  :P
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The 2000 FZN set to be put on sale on the Nxt AE is going to be delayed until further notice.
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Good idea. Lol. Anybody else getting flashbacks to 9/11?lol
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Good idea. Lol. Anybody else getting flashbacks to 9/11?lol

Yeah it was pretty unreal, I'm till interested to hear bter's statement. Only last week I had 300,000+ Nxt gaining interest on bter, I only moved it recently to more secure wallets... Thank god. Luckily I only lost around a BTC worth.


Update

- Sending 2000 FZN to the Nxt AE as promised
- New coin investment being revealed within 6 hours
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@whale: just for information: there are 2351 shares left on poloniex. Adding the 2000 shares that you will shift to AE - is this the total remaining number from the 15000 shares you put on sale this round?

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@whale: just for information: there are 2351 shares left on poloniex. Adding the 2000 shares that you will shift to AE - is this the total remaining number from the 15000 shares you put on sale this round?

We currently have 5306 FZN on Poloniex. I originally put them all up but people thought someone wanted out and it wouldn't go up so I started selling it in lots. We won't be going under 65,000 FZN until the third offering. There won't be anymore offerings until we've returned some solid results.

We've added 15 million Nxttycoins to the portfolio for the following reasons.

- Current and planned features
- Solid development team
- It hasn't hit an exchange yet
- It is only in beta, it has not yet been released
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I have reduced all of our holdings back into their Nxt worth to give everyone an idea on our progress so far.

495,000 (Nxtty) + 265,000 (Nxt) + 350,000 (BTCD) + 83,333 (yet to be revealed) + 78,666 (BTC)/ 29694 (no Nxt has been raised from 5306 FZN yet)

1 FZN = ~43 Nxt
1 FZN = ~0.00258 (0.00006 Nxt/ BTC)

Therefore, anything under ~43 Nxt/ FZN or ~0.00258 BTC/ FZN is currently profit.
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Nicely done!  I like the investment in nxtty.  Is that on the NXT AE?
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Nicely done!  I like the investment in nxtty.  Is that on the NXT AE?

You bet! It was actually ForrestGump who brought my attention to them so I did some research and bombarded the dev with questions. He handled everything very professionally. There are a few events upcoming which should see the price rise nicely. If the app is successful, it will be a good long-term investment.

Nxtty
Account: NXT-TBAJ-LVLX-YCWY-5FRLD
Asset Id:  18128686802152832026
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Nicely done!  I like the investment in nxtty.  Is that on the NXT AE?

You bet! It was actually ForrestGump who brought my attention to them so I did some research and bombarded the dev with questions. He handled everything very professionally. There are a few events upcoming which should see the price rise nicely. If the app is successful, it will be a good long-term investment.

Nxtty
Account: NXT-TBAJ-LVLX-YCWY-5FRLD
Asset Id:  18128686802152832026

Thanks for the info!  Think I'll do a little investing in them myself! ;)  That 5% interest they are promising is very enticing. :)
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Nicely done!  I like the investment in nxtty.  Is that on the NXT AE?

You bet! It was actually ForrestGump who brought my attention to them so I did some research and bombarded the dev with questions. He handled everything very professionally. There are a few events upcoming which should see the price rise nicely. If the app is successful, it will be a good long-term investment.

Nxtty
Account: NXT-TBAJ-LVLX-YCWY-5FRLD
Asset Id:  18128686802152832026

Thanks for the info!  Think I'll do a little investing in them myself! ;)  That 5% interest they are promising is very enticing. :)

You bet +1
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I've been in NXTTY since the "interested" list

I've had plenty of talks with Landomata, including some in the NXTTY app;)
I'm in personally for a good share, and glad to see Fuzon getting in as well.

App to App calling is in beta this week too.
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I forgot that I invested 5.3 BTC into the mystery coin, not 5 BTC. So the results should be a little higher but it isn't too significant.

Please remember that once every month I will supply a large buy order on the Nxt AE and Poloniex at the actual value of Fuzon (at the time of listing) for those who want to exit. Therefore, if I did this today, our initial round 1 investors would be walking away with a 72% profit. Finally, I would like to point out that not one of our investments (Nxtty, BTCD, mystery coin) have made a loss.

Clean slate so far :)

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I've been in NXTTY since the "interested" list

I've had plenty of talks with Landomata, including some in the NXTTY app;)
I'm in personally for a good share, and glad to see Fuzon getting in as well.

App to App calling is in beta this week too.

I've heard nothing but good things about Nxtty. A lot of reputable members on here are extremely optimistic. Over the week, I might work on creating some more buzz for them as a lot of people are still unaware.
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Edit: ALL remaining 2nd round FZN will be pulled from the market within 12 hours of this post. This is your last chance.

Second Round Over
« Last Edit: August 18, 2014, 11:21:32 am by whale »
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Reserved :)
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We now own 11 million NEM. Updating our holdings.

- Built from scratch
- Proof-of-Importance
- Clearly defined roadmap
- Active team/ community
- Yet to launch

Edit: We now have 11 stakes
« Last Edit: August 21, 2014, 09:48:24 am by whale »
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wow. why didn't i see this before!?

nicely done whale!  glad to see you're active here on nxt as well.  :)
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wow. why didn't i see this before!?

nicely done whale!  glad to see you're active here on nxt as well.  :)

I'm finding that I spend a lot more time in the Nxt community than the Ripple community now. Although I'll probably always hold some XRP.

And thank you  :) we're currently up so I'm not sweating yet.
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We now own 11 million NEM. Updating our holdings.

- Built from scratch
- Proof-of-Importance
- Clearly defined roadmap
- Active team/ community
- Yet to launch

Edit: We now have 11 stakes

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Re: Fuzon (FZN) | Nxt AE & Poloniex | An Asset Built Upon Succes
« Reply #107 on: August 21, 2014, 04:16:20 pm »

Overall, how much Fuzon is in circulation ATM?
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) | Nxt AE & Poloniex | An Asset Built Upon Succes
« Reply #108 on: August 21, 2014, 04:49:03 pm »

Overall, how much Fuzon is in circulation ATM?

30,000 Fuzon / 30%
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) | Nxt AE & Poloniex | An Asset Built Upon Succes
« Reply #109 on: August 22, 2014, 07:56:19 pm »

I've been checking frequently but see no progress on the site, hope everything is fine.
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« Reply #110 on: August 22, 2014, 08:48:24 pm »

I really don't think the site is a thing. Don't worry about it.
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« Reply #111 on: August 22, 2014, 10:22:33 pm »

I've been checking frequently but see no progress on the site, hope everything is fine.

My last update was that Poloniex's API wasn't working properly and there was civil unrest in one of the developers countries. Progress is still being made.

Currently, Fuzon is being traded for double its second offering price right now on the Nxt AE. Overall, we are seeing strong gains on all of our investments.
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« Reply #112 on: August 23, 2014, 08:21:31 am »

How can i trade on Nxt AE ?
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« Reply #113 on: August 23, 2014, 12:21:03 pm »

How can i trade on Nxt AE ?

1. Download the wallet from nxt.org
2. Create an account and download the blockchain
3. Click 'Asset Exchange' on the left hand side
4. Click 'Add Asset' and enter 5053136014193078855
5. The Fuzon market should now be visible

Please let me know if you need any further assistance.
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« Reply #114 on: August 24, 2014, 10:59:12 am »

BREAK-DOWN: 1 FZN = 55 Nxt or 0.00318 BTC

Nxttycoin 250%, BTCD 130%, NEM 10%


Percentage rise on each of our investments since buy-in.  I'm predicting some strong results from NEM in the following months as the launch creeps closer. Nxttycoin is yet to launch or be on an exchange so we still have a lot of room for growth. Similar story with BTCD which hasn't launched teleport yet. Therefore, we'll hopefully continue to see some nice gains over the coming weeks/ months. There were no gains from the mysterious investment as it cannot be traded yet. At some stage I'll throw up some large buy/ sell walls to allow people to enter or exit (lets call them "train stops" for fun).

We are still well funded with ~4.3 BTC and ~97,000 Nxt for one more investment (5 coins is enough for now).
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« Reply #115 on: August 24, 2014, 12:00:30 pm »

We are now on Coin Market Cap!
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« Reply #116 on: August 25, 2014, 01:01:35 am »

Just letting everyone know that I am depositing ~1350 BTCD into the BTCD Fuzon wallet but this won't be part of the holdings.
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« Reply #117 on: August 25, 2014, 01:08:16 am »

Is it safe to mix funds like that? Does it send the right message to investors? Not everyone reads the forums, and we'll have investors outside the community...
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« Reply #118 on: August 25, 2014, 02:42:13 am »

Is it safe to mix funds like that? Does it send the right message to investors? Not everyone reads the forums, and we'll have investors outside the community...

It is only temporary. Right now Fuzon funds are on the same hardware as my own holdings (I have separate machines for everything). I've ordered some specialized computer hardware specifically for Fuzon funds which has a range of security features. This should arrive this coming week.

However, if this is an issue, I can send them elsewhere :)
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« Reply #119 on: August 25, 2014, 02:57:01 am »

Is it safe to mix funds like that? Does it send the right message to investors? Not everyone reads the forums, and we'll have investors outside the community...

It is only temporary. Right now Fuzon funds are on the same hardware as my own holdings (I have separate machines for everything). I've ordered some specialized computer hardware specifically for Fuzon funds which has a range of security features. This should arrive this coming week.

However, if this is an issue, I can send them elsewhere :)

No worries!  Thanks for the explanation!  Specialized hardware?  I'm envisioning something out of Mission Impossible now. lol
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« Reply #120 on: August 25, 2014, 03:15:48 am »

Is it safe to mix funds like that? Does it send the right message to investors? Not everyone reads the forums, and we'll have investors outside the community...

It is only temporary. Right now Fuzon funds are on the same hardware as my own holdings (I have separate machines for everything). I've ordered some specialized computer hardware specifically for Fuzon funds which has a range of security features. This should arrive this coming week.

However, if this is an issue, I can send them elsewhere :)

No worries!  Thanks for the explanation!  Specialized hardware?  I'm envisioning something out of Mission Impossible now. lol

It wasn't cheap but I would rather make the investment now than risk people's investment for when/ if we are holding over 10 million Nxt worth of crypto. It looks pretty neat, it has alarms, warning lights, specialized security software etc. I ordered it last week so it shouldn't be long :)
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« Reply #121 on: August 25, 2014, 03:20:44 am »

Is it safe to mix funds like that? Does it send the right message to investors? Not everyone reads the forums, and we'll have investors outside the community...

It is only temporary. Right now Fuzon funds are on the same hardware as my own holdings (I have separate machines for everything). I've ordered some specialized computer hardware specifically for Fuzon funds which has a range of security features. This should arrive this coming week.

However, if this is an issue, I can send them elsewhere :)

No worries!  Thanks for the explanation!  Specialized hardware?  I'm envisioning something out of Mission Impossible now. lol

It wasn't cheap but I would rather make the investment now than risk people's investment for when/ if we are holding over 10 million Nxt worth of crypto. It looks pretty neat, it has alarms, warning lights, specialized security software etc. I ordered it last week so it shouldn't be long :)

You get an applaud for that. :)
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« Reply #122 on: August 25, 2014, 03:30:32 am »

Is it safe to mix funds like that? Does it send the right message to investors? Not everyone reads the forums, and we'll have investors outside the community...

It is only temporary. Right now Fuzon funds are on the same hardware as my own holdings (I have separate machines for everything). I've ordered some specialized computer hardware specifically for Fuzon funds which has a range of security features. This should arrive this coming week.

However, if this is an issue, I can send them elsewhere :)

No worries!  Thanks for the explanation!  Specialized hardware?  I'm envisioning something out of Mission Impossible now. lol

It wasn't cheap but I would rather make the investment now than risk people's investment for when/ if we are holding over 10 million Nxt worth of crypto. It looks pretty neat, it has alarms, warning lights, specialized security software etc. I ordered it last week so it shouldn't be long :)

You get an applaud for that. :)

Haha thank you :o

BTCD and Nxttycoin are still rising, we're going to have even better results next time I do the calculations if this keeps up. Hopefully the mysterious coin takes off as well.
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« Reply #123 on: August 26, 2014, 07:14:24 am »

It looks like FZN was hit by a whale tail and reached BTC parity on https://www.poloniex.com/exchange/btc_fzn

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« Reply #124 on: August 26, 2014, 11:01:26 am »

It looks like FZN was hit by a whale tail and reached BTC parity on https://www.poloniex.com/exchange/btc_fzn

 :D

The hell??  It spiked up to 1:1 value with BTC??
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« Reply #125 on: August 26, 2014, 11:19:55 am »

Where can I see a breakdown of all cryptos in Fuzon, percentage wise? I would like to see what I'd be buying :)

Never mind, it's in the first post, unless there is a more complete list somewhere out there :)
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« Reply #126 on: August 26, 2014, 11:57:54 am »

Where can I see a breakdown of all cryptos in Fuzon, percentage wise? I would like to see what I'd be buying :)

Never mind, it's in the first post, unless there is a more complete list somewhere out there :)

I'm in the process of liquidating some of our holdings so I can throw up some large buy walls so you may see some coins on the move. I'm looking to put up large buy/ sell walls up at the beginning of each month. This will allow for new people to get in and for current holders to get out. These walls will be around the intrinsic value of Fuzon (which is constantly rising from huge gains in BTCD and Nxtty).

Once I reveal the 4th investment, the list will be complete. I only have a BTC value next to it for now.


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« Reply #127 on: August 26, 2014, 12:10:34 pm »

Earnings Update

I just quickly calculated our current holdings and we're at 2,360,666 Nxt (we broke the 2 million mark!!).

Therefore, the value of FZN has increased to ~79 Nxt/ FZN which is a 44% gain in two days! Or 216% rise from the initial offering!



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« Reply #128 on: August 26, 2014, 08:22:09 pm »

When are you going to unveil the mystery coin?  :)
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« Reply #129 on: August 27, 2014, 02:59:15 am »

Is it quarters?!
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« Reply #130 on: August 27, 2014, 07:20:06 am »

Is it quarters?!

Imagine if I invested us into USD  :o


I'll reveal the coin within 48 hours. Stay tuned to our twitter @fuzonFZN
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« Reply #131 on: August 27, 2014, 10:33:45 am »

Hi whale, just saw that you bought 0.2 shares from my offer, thanks  ;).... but what was your intention to buy shares for 20 NXT? ;D
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« Reply #132 on: August 27, 2014, 11:20:59 am »

Hi whale, just saw that you bought 0.2 shares from my offer, thanks  ;).... but what was your intention to buy shares for 20 NXT? ;D

I am obsessive compulsive about having round numbers and I was getting sick of seeing 69,697.8 FZN every time that I signed into the Fuzon wallet. Just to think, only a few weeks ago that would have almost bought you 1 FZN!

Enjoy your profit *notes down Abraxas as a weak hand*  :D
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« Reply #133 on: August 27, 2014, 11:57:12 am »

Quote
Enjoy your profit *notes down Abraxas as a weak hand*  :D

You are welcome  8) hope that I don't have to live too long with this ".8" now  ;)

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« Reply #134 on: August 28, 2014, 05:33:39 am »

Just letting everyone know that the transition to our more secure hardware is taking place. Therefore you will notice funds will start moving. I'll update all relevant addresses once the process is over.
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« Reply #135 on: August 28, 2014, 05:46:18 am »

Mystery coin reveal!!!  ;D ::) :-*
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« Reply #136 on: August 28, 2014, 07:23:10 pm »

Waiting on the mystery coin Whale :D
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« Reply #137 on: August 28, 2014, 11:33:53 pm »

Saw your tweet, whale.  I must say: that choice came out of left field for me. lol  Care to tell us why you chose it?
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« Reply #138 on: August 28, 2014, 11:36:05 pm »

DogeParty (XDP) was the mystery coin!!

Reasoning:

- Burned XDP on the first day (giving us an advantage)
- No inflation (it will appeal to Doge users who were turned off Doge's coin supply)
- A platform for creativity (the Doge community has already displayed what they are capable of, this gives them a platform to further realize their communities potential)
- Development team
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« Reply #139 on: August 29, 2014, 12:19:29 am »

« Last Edit: August 29, 2014, 12:22:14 am by mrcryptouser »
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« Reply #140 on: August 29, 2014, 01:58:55 am »

Saw your tweet, whale.  I must say: that choice came out of left field for me. lol  Care to tell us why you chose it?

Well I was hoping for the ninja launch but then Poloniex listed XDP so it forced my hand  :)
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« Reply #141 on: August 29, 2014, 02:03:35 am »

I never thought anything related to doge could have been taken seriously
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« Reply #143 on: August 29, 2014, 02:23:08 am »

Were you able to buy it for less than 1000 Doge per Dogeparty?
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« Reply #144 on: August 29, 2014, 02:46:05 am »

Were you able to buy it for less than 1000 Doge per Dogeparty?

I burned it on the very first day (I don't remember the exact amount). Which is why I had to time the announcement to ensure we had an advantage. Otherwise, everyone could get in for the same price.

Edit: I'll combine all of our wallets and get an exact figure for everyone. There is a limit to how many you can burn so I made multiple accounts.
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« Reply #145 on: August 29, 2014, 05:10:42 am »

Dogeparty is certainly better than the slow Counterparty.
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« Reply #146 on: August 29, 2014, 05:20:05 am »

Dogeparty is certainly better than the slow Counterparty.

That is another point which helped my reasoning. It is faster and cheaper than XCP which are barriers preventing adoption (and the main reason I launched FZN through Nxt AE rather than XCP). Although I'm invested in XCP, I think XDP makes more sense for investors. Not to mention the Doge community is huge.
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« Reply #147 on: August 29, 2014, 06:19:20 am »

Doge will rise again!
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« Reply #148 on: August 30, 2014, 10:38:51 am »

Just how James is an adviser in Fuzon, I will also be taking up a position in the Supernetwork as an adviser to ensure quality coins are added to the portfolio.

If you feel like there is a coin with huge potential that isn't gaining much attention, I'm in a good position to help you.


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« Reply #149 on: August 30, 2014, 12:39:15 pm »

Hi there i bought some Fuzon asset  :)
I saw your tweet about Nxtty potential, do you think its a good entry now?
And about Nem stake is it better to buy now or wait a possible dump of the 3000 others stake?
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« Reply #150 on: August 30, 2014, 01:22:18 pm »


If you feel like there is a coin with huge potential that isn't gaining much attention, I'm in a good position to help you.

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« Reply #151 on: August 30, 2014, 01:27:25 pm »

Hi there i bought some Fuzon asset  :)
I saw your tweet about Nxtty potential, do you think its a good entry now?
And about Nem stake is it better to buy now or wait a possible dump of the 3000 others stake?

Well Nxtty is not even launch, so I think it is a good entry point. In a year, it might be a lot more expensive entry point in that way of thinking.
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« Reply #152 on: August 30, 2014, 01:52:11 pm »

Hi there i bought some Fuzon asset  :)
I saw your tweet about Nxtty potential, do you think its a good entry now?
And about Nem stake is it better to buy now or wait a possible dump of the 3000 others stake?

Welcome :)

A few things grabbed my attention.

- It isn't on a centralized exchange yet
- It hasn't launched
- Interest every month on earnings
- Lots of potential in the technology/ industry
- If Nxtty is purchased, all Nxttycoin holders get a share (determined on their holdings)

However, as always, you should be doing your own due diligence before investing in ANYTHING. And remember, since you own FZN, you indirectly own Nxtty.

I hope that helped. Send me a message if you need any further assistance.
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« Reply #153 on: August 30, 2014, 04:16:56 pm »

Hi there i bought some Fuzon asset  :)
I saw your tweet about Nxtty potential, do you think its a good entry now?
And about Nem stake is it better to buy now or wait a possible dump of the 3000 others stake?

Welcome :)

A few things grabbed my attention.

- It isn't on a centralized exchange yet
- It hasn't launched
- Interest every month on earnings
- Lots of potential in the technology/ industry
- If Nxtty is purchased, all Nxttycoin holders get a share (determined on their holdings)

However, as always, you should be doing your own due diligence before investing in ANYTHING. And remember, since you own FZN, you indirectly own Nxtty.

I hope that helped. Send me a message if you need any further assistance.

 In regards to NXTTY as an investment:
 I have been following since first ANN, and bought at IPO. I have chatted with landomata , often via Nxtty beta test
 
 The one thing that grabs me the most is that Lando is not merely seeing this as NXt for Chat, or the like, but as a serious tool using a basically free protocol to change the way millions of people communicate.
 This app has the chance to really do a lot of work and good. And those things bring users, and users bring value.
 The fact that NXTTY is offering 5% share dividends is even better. Thats 50% gain just for holding.

 Plus this app is playing in the real world. Where there is money sloshing around trying to get spent. Wait until the googles and the facebooks get a whiff.
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« Reply #154 on: August 30, 2014, 04:17:07 pm »

Is there a way we can claim the different assets that fuzon owns? Like, instead of cashing out, we can instead claim our own % of the assets.

E.G.

If i own 1000fzn and there is a total of 10000fzn.

Fuzon fund consists of 5000btcd and 5000nxtty, if i claim my portion instead of cashing out my money i can get 500btcd and 500nxtty instead of having to dump my fzn to get btc/Nxt and then buying btcd and nxtty through this way.
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« Reply #155 on: August 30, 2014, 04:28:41 pm »

Is there a way we can claim the different assets that fuzon owns? Like, instead of cashing out, we can instead claim our own % of the assets.

E.G.

If i own 1000fzn and there is a total of 10000fzn.

Fuzon fund consists of 5000btcd and 5000nxtty, if i claim my portion instead of cashing out my money i can get 500btcd and 500nxtty instead of having to dump my fzn to get btc/Nxt and then buying btcd and nxtty through this way.

i think this go againts the idea of a fund...
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« Reply #156 on: August 30, 2014, 04:46:41 pm »

i think this go againts the idea of a fund...

I think its better to implement this with the train stops idea. So every month, you can cash out your fzn for either a % of the fund or either dump it into the trainstops btc.
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« Reply #157 on: August 31, 2014, 01:15:07 pm »

So, Fuzion getting in on SuperNET when it's released? :)
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« Reply #158 on: August 31, 2014, 11:11:20 pm »

So, Fuzion getting in on SuperNET when it's released? :)

I'll have an official announcement within the coming days :)
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« Reply #159 on: September 01, 2014, 12:26:42 am »

Hi there i bought some Fuzon asset  :)
I saw your tweet about Nxtty potential, do you think its a good entry now?
And about Nem stake is it better to buy now or wait a possible dump of the 3000 others stake?

Welcome :)

A few things grabbed my attention.

- It isn't on a centralized exchange yet
- It hasn't launched
- Interest every month on earnings
- Lots of potential in the technology/ industry
- If Nxtty is purchased, all Nxttycoin holders get a share (determined on their holdings)

However, as always, you should be doing your own due diligence before investing in ANYTHING. And remember, since you own FZN, you indirectly own Nxtty.

I hope that helped. Send me a message if you need any further assistance.

 In regards to NXTTY as an investment:
 I have been following since first ANN, and bought at IPO. I have chatted with landomata , often via Nxtty beta test
 
 The one thing that grabs me the most is that Lando is not merely seeing this as NXt for Chat, or the like, but as a serious tool using a basically free protocol to change the way millions of people communicate.
 This app has the chance to really do a lot of work and good. And those things bring users, and users bring value.
 The fact that NXTTY is offering 5% share dividends is even better. Thats 50% gain just for holding.

 Plus this app is playing in the real world. Where there is money sloshing around trying to get spent. Wait until the googles and the facebooks get a whiff.

Thank you guys
I will try to get more Nxtty and Fuzon  :)
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« Reply #160 on: September 01, 2014, 10:07:56 pm »

When can we expect the first train stop?
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« Reply #161 on: September 01, 2014, 10:32:54 pm »

When can we expect the first train stop?

Within the coming days. I'll announce on twitter.
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« Reply #162 on: September 03, 2014, 02:42:32 am »

An anouncement in an hour?  Dang it!  And I was winding down for bed.  Now I'm all spun up again! lol
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« Reply #163 on: September 03, 2014, 03:18:27 am »

An anouncement in an hour?  Dang it!  And I was winding down for bed.  Now I'm all spun up again! lol

Just finalizing everything now and I'll type it up. I've been distracted with SuperNET biz so it was a matter of finding some time. I'll be quick :)
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« Reply #164 on: September 03, 2014, 03:48:20 am »

Firstly, I would just like to thank you all for trusting in my abilities. Fuzon isn't even a month old and we started with only ~9 investors to becoming one of the top 10 most traded assets on the Nxt AE. I've been able to bring value to everyone who took a leap of faith in me and provided great returns on investment. Every investment in our portfolio has provided us with profit, not one investment has dipped into the red.

James came to me a few days ago and told me about his new SuperNET project and expressed his desire to have me on the team. After much consideration, I have decided to step down from Fuzon to focus on my new role in SuperNET. 

So this is what I am thinking. The next train stop will only have an exit. I've told James that I don't want to close everything down immediately as I am confident that some of our investments are yet to ripen. Therefore I am going to gradually liquidate our holdings and put large buy walls up at around the intrinsic value. It is up to you whether you get off now, or wait until our other holdings end up maturing (or rotting). This is the risk you take. As more assets leave our holdings, we will be left with more risky assets which haven't yet displayed their true colors.

I would like to hear everyone's thoughts. I understand that some of you will be disappointed and it has been an incredible ride, but I feel like this is the right direction for me to take. Once everyone is okay with this, I'll work out a price and put up our entire current Nxt and BTC holdings.
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« Reply #165 on: September 03, 2014, 03:51:38 am »

Well whale, not was I was hoping for. Hope this has a positive spin from a shareholders perspective.

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« Reply #166 on: September 03, 2014, 04:03:34 am »

Well whale, not was I was hoping for. Hope this has a positive spin from a shareholders perspective.

We made incredible progress over the last few weeks so I can understand why people will be disappointed but I definitely will be looking into ensuring this has a soft landing. I usually trade on 'gut feelings', my gut tells me this is the right thing to do. I don't want my work at SuperNET to impact Fuzon in any way. I would rather leave on a high and ensure everyone leaves safely.
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« Reply #167 on: September 03, 2014, 04:11:16 am »

I do like your airline pilot sense of customer care ;)
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« Reply #168 on: September 03, 2014, 05:31:34 am »

I do like your airline pilot sense of customer care ;)

but too bad were in a nosedive now
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« Reply #169 on: September 03, 2014, 05:41:38 am »

I do like your airline pilot sense of customer care ;)

but too bad were in a nosedive now

I'll make sure we land safely  :)
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« Reply #170 on: September 03, 2014, 05:47:45 am »

inb4 we all sell at 120 per fuzon and whale is praised.
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« Reply #171 on: September 03, 2014, 06:23:24 am »

inb4 we all sell at 120 per fuzon and whale is praised.

The news about Nxtty going on bter couldn't have been better timing. It has already begun to rally.


Also please note what I said about placing large buy walls up. There is no need to panic, I just want everyone to know why you will be seeing our assets being liquidated and no new coin additions. This process may take weeks (depending on XDP and NEM). I'm just trying to work out a fair price (it is an estimate at best with so much still in alts).
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« Reply #172 on: September 03, 2014, 06:33:55 am »

sad to hear that you leave the cockpit - but glad to hear you join the superNET team! I respect your decision and can imagine that it was not an easy one  :)

Will there be a certain time span for the train stop (just want to make sure I didn't miss it)? So how long will the train stop?
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« Reply #173 on: September 03, 2014, 06:40:22 am »

sad to hear that you leave the cockpit - but glad to hear you join the superNET Team! I respect your decision and can imagine that it was not an easy one  :)

Will there be a certain time span for the train stop (just want to make sure I didn't miss it)? So how long will the train stop?

Thank you for your words.

I'm aiming to keep a buy wall up at all times (granted I have the funds in the Fuzon account to do so). There just won't be anymore FZN being sold. After a a few weeks I'm hoping to have almost everything wrapped up.
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« Reply #174 on: September 03, 2014, 07:06:04 am »

inb4 we all sell at 120 per fuzon and whale is praised.

kind of understand, kind of disappointed...

yes lets hope that 'whale' delivers also for those of us who bought in more recently on the back of his progress reports and reputation...

of course perhaps you could get james to agree that FUZON could be swapped for SuperNet and just exchange the fund as it has NXT, BTCD and NXTTY, two of which are super net candidates and I would wonder if NXTTY wouldn't be in there - don't know if its applied and would integrate the jl777 services into NXTTY
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« Reply #175 on: September 03, 2014, 07:20:11 am »

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neat idea :-). would be interested in a swap to SuperNet, too...
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« Reply #176 on: September 03, 2014, 10:27:06 am »

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neat idea :-). would be interested in a swap to SuperNet, too...

Same. :)
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« Reply #177 on: September 03, 2014, 10:44:23 am »

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« Reply #178 on: September 03, 2014, 01:00:32 pm »

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neat idea :-). would be interested in a swap to SuperNet, too...

Same. :)

I'm currently discussing the possibility with James. Although no promises :)
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« Reply #179 on: September 03, 2014, 01:28:36 pm »

Whale,
 We heard you're a master negotiator. This is a great time to stand up for your asset holders, and get the best deal possible. We're your little class of investors. Do the right thing and you will cement your reputation in this community and across the SuperNet as far as forum posts can spread.

I trust you, and thank you for the posts and PMs assuring us that you have our interests in mind. I appreciate the value you have added, and I am glad to have been on this FZN since day 1.

As I understand, a lot of FZN holdings are attractive to SuperNet while others might not be. Would you divide the two and swap the SuperNet ones in, while FZN could retain the others, and holders could decide to ride or sell?

If this works, some people might consider FZN the first way to buy SuperNet. Hope the price doesn't do anything silly because of that.
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« Reply #180 on: September 03, 2014, 05:37:38 pm »


yes lets hope that 'whale' delivers also for those of us who bought in more recently on the back of his progress reports and reputation...

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« Reply #181 on: September 04, 2014, 12:19:07 am »

Whale,
 We heard you're a master negotiator. This is a great time to stand up for your asset holders, and get the best deal possible. We're your little class of investors. Do the right thing and you will cement your reputation in this community and across the SuperNet as far as forum posts can spread.

I trust you, and thank you for the posts and PMs assuring us that you have our interests in mind. I appreciate the value you have added, and I am glad to have been on this FZN since day 1.

As I understand, a lot of FZN holdings are attractive to SuperNet while others might not be. Would you divide the two and swap the SuperNet ones in, while FZN could retain the others, and holders could decide to ride or sell?

If this works, some people might consider FZN the first way to buy SuperNet. Hope the price doesn't do anything silly because of that.

The biggest issue we are taking into consideration is that James is the biggest FZN holder (after myself). It may look bad to the outside community if James gives FZN special privileges as they may think James is only wanting to benefit himself with the announcement (as he has to buy his own SuperNET stake). That is currently where we are at with the talks. I'm also exploring alternates with him as well.

As I said, no promises. I see someone has been pumping up the FZN price but right now I can't disclose whether or not I will be able to reach a deal. 
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« Reply #182 on: September 04, 2014, 12:22:25 am »

I think fzn has been selling due to its large nxttycoin holding and the related spike.
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« Reply #183 on: September 04, 2014, 12:49:17 am »

I think fzn has been selling due to its large nxttycoin holding and the related spike.

The buy orders are too thin right now for 7.5 million Nxttycoin. There is 1118 Nxt before it hits the 0.08's again. However, I hope the momentum continues for Nxttycoin.
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« Reply #184 on: September 04, 2014, 12:52:19 am »

I'm amazed there was such demand for the first 7.5 m. And who's in a rush
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« Reply #185 on: September 04, 2014, 01:00:13 am »

I'm amazed there was such demand for the first 7.5 m. And who's in a rush

Nxtty has been a standout in the portfolio. Exactly, this process is likely going to take weeks because I am still trying to get the best prices. Although within reasonable time. XDP won't probably do anything until the burn period is over in a little over a week, so that will be one of the final coins that I sell.
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« Reply #186 on: September 04, 2014, 02:40:18 am »

are there any funds excluded from the "buy wall" price?
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« Reply #187 on: September 04, 2014, 05:46:38 pm »

So what is fuzon valued at the moment?
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« Reply #188 on: September 05, 2014, 01:44:46 am »

Qora is a good buy, the asset exchange coming in 3 days, the 8 september !
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« Reply #189 on: September 05, 2014, 07:41:23 am »

Within the next 6 hours, I'm hopefully going to come up with an estimated price. The nxtty rise has really inflated the figures but I can't sell 7 million Nxtty at that price (for obvious reasons). I want everyone to be able to have some Nxt/ BTC before SuperNET so I'll put some bids up. The longer you hold off from selling, the more accurate the price will become (up or down). Right now I am working out the intrinsic value and then putting in my own approximation. Once more coins are sold, I'll be able to get a better look at the overall picture.

I hope this helps you all to understand my reasoning. If you have any questions, feel free to inbox me.
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« Reply #190 on: September 05, 2014, 07:48:57 am »

Within the next 6 hours, I'm hopefully going to come up with an estimated price. The nxtty rise has really inflated the figures but I can't sell 7 million Nxtty at that price (for obvious reasons). I want everyone to be able to have some Nxt/ BTC before SuperNET so I'll put some bids up. The longer you hold off from selling, the more accurate the price will become (up or down). Right now I am working out the intrinsic value and then putting in my own approximation. Once more coins are sold, I'll be able to get a better look at the overall picture.

I hope this helps you all to understand my reasoning. If you have any questions, feel free to inbox me.

Hi whale, make sure to post as well the value of Nxtty, BTCD, etc that you use to compute the value of fuzon. Since you are liquidating this asset, please be as transparent as possible. TY
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« Reply #191 on: September 05, 2014, 08:55:51 am »

Within the next 6 hours, I'm hopefully going to come up with an estimated price. The nxtty rise has really inflated the figures but I can't sell 7 million Nxtty at that price (for obvious reasons). I want everyone to be able to have some Nxt/ BTC before SuperNET so I'll put some bids up. The longer you hold off from selling, the more accurate the price will become (up or down). Right now I am working out the intrinsic value and then putting in my own approximation. Once more coins are sold, I'll be able to get a better look at the overall picture.

I hope this helps you all to understand my reasoning. If you have any questions, feel free to inbox me.

Hi whale, make sure to post as well the value of Nxtty, BTCD, etc that you use to compute the value of fuzon. Since you are liquidating this asset, please be as transparent as possible. TY

Definitely. My goal from the beginning was to help everyone make as much money as possible. Which is why it is taking some time to sell everything (instead of mindlessly dumping) and I intend to pass on the 550,000 Nxtty bonus that I will be receiving from landomata.
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« Reply #192 on: September 05, 2014, 12:39:23 pm »

BREAK-DOWN:

708,109
403,225 (BTC)
300,377 (NEM)
704,000 (Nxtty)
77,543 (XDP)
443,548 (BTCD)

TOTAL: 2,636,802 Nxt

1 FZN = ~88 Nxt
1 FZN = ~0.00567 BTC (0.00006448 Nxt/ BTC)


As you can see we haven't even liquidated half of the portfolio which gives some variance to the final price. Furthermore, these estimates are based from the highest bid, which is inflating the numbers (Nxtty in particular). There just isn't enough liquidity on the books for us to dump our positions. Therefore, I will be placing a bid at 70 for now. The longer you hold, the more accurate the price will become (as I continue to sell coins). This means that it could go higher or lower but at least it provides a safety net for current investors and an exit for those wanting to cash out.
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« Reply #193 on: September 05, 2014, 02:28:03 pm »

Thanks for your continued efforts on this asset, whale!
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« Reply #194 on: September 06, 2014, 11:59:06 am »

Looks likewe cannot swap fuzon for supernet.
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« Reply #195 on: September 06, 2014, 12:08:33 pm »

Is Fuzion still holding BTCD?  Looks like the price is climbing due to the SuperNET IPO...
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« Reply #196 on: September 06, 2014, 01:13:55 pm »

Is Fuzion still holding BTCD?  Looks like the price is climbing due to the SuperNET IPO...

You bet! 2600 BTCD still in the coffers. Hoping to sell around 0.02ish
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« Reply #197 on: September 06, 2014, 01:15:46 pm »

Is Fuzion still holding BTCD?  Looks like the price is climbing due to the SuperNET IPO...

You bet! 2600 BTCD still in the coffers. Hoping to sell around 0.02ish

I will be holding my fuzion then. :)  My hope is that that Fuzion value increases faster than the UNITY price increases, and I can exit fuzion at some point during the UNITY ICO so I can move my funds there. ;)
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« Reply #198 on: September 06, 2014, 01:19:27 pm »

Looks likewe cannot swap fuzon for supernet.

We couldn't come to an agreement. James and I are the largest Fuzon holders and we are both involved with SuperNET. It just wouldn't look fair to the wider community and it could create unnecessary controversy. 
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« Reply #199 on: September 06, 2014, 01:20:59 pm »

@whale

BTCD
BTC
NEM
NXTTY

are all available on AE - and seem to be the majority of the fund - why not simply pay the fund out as asset dividends...
dividend+ will do the calculations.
then people can HODL or SELL
you can wind up the fund and move on to SuperNet.

all are long term prospects and I assume its only because you need to close this fund you are selling and disposing of this volume creates, price/liquidity problems... which is not necessarily creating the best outcome
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« Reply #200 on: September 06, 2014, 01:23:42 pm »

Is Fuzion still holding BTCD?  Looks like the price is climbing due to the SuperNET IPO...

You bet! 2600 BTCD still in the coffers. Hoping to sell around 0.02ish

I will be holding my fuzion then. :)  My hope is that that Fuzion value increases faster than the UNITY price increases, and I can exit fuzion at some point during the UNITY ICO so I can move my funds there. ;)

Haha very smart. Keep an eye on Nxtty and NEM, both have decreased since the estimate was made (especially Nxtty). Someone made an interesting point about purchasing SuperNET with BTC, I'll probably go that route. Nxt and BTCD are going up whereas BTC is more stable.
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« Reply #201 on: September 06, 2014, 01:23:50 pm »

@whale

BTCD
BTC
NEM
NXTTY

are all available on AE - and seem to be the majority of the fund - why not simply pay the fund out as asset dividends...
dividend+ will do the calculations.
then people can HODL or SELL
you can wind up the fund and move on to SuperNet.

all are long term prospects and I assume its only because you need to close this fund you are selling and disposing of this volume creates, price/liquidity problems... which is not necessarily creating the best outcome

interesting idea.
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« Reply #202 on: September 06, 2014, 01:28:34 pm »

don´t sell the nemstakes yet, i think they will rise over 50,000 nxt at the end of this month.
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« Reply #203 on: September 06, 2014, 01:31:21 pm »

@whale

BTCD
BTC
NEM
NXTTY

are all available on AE - and seem to be the majority of the fund - why not simply pay the fund out as asset dividends...
dividend+ will do the calculations.
then people can HODL or SELL
you can wind up the fund and move on to SuperNet.

all are long term prospects and I assume its only because you need to close this fund you are selling and disposing of this volume creates, price/liquidity problems... which is not necessarily creating the best outcome

I'm more than happy to do this if people agree? Then we can wrap up Fuzon more promptly.

@Fuzon holders
Voice your opinions about this proposal. Would you rather me continue working out the best time to sell or would you rather decide for yourselves?
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« Reply #204 on: September 06, 2014, 01:33:04 pm »

don´t sell the nemstakes yet, i think they will rise over 50,000 nxt at the end of this month.

I won't be selling them for a while. However, I like chanc3r's idea, then we can slice it all up and end it now  :'(
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« Reply #205 on: September 06, 2014, 01:37:12 pm »

@whale

BTCD
BTC
NEM
NXTTY

are all available on AE - and seem to be the majority of the fund - why not simply pay the fund out as asset dividends...
dividend+ will do the calculations.
then people can HODL or SELL
you can wind up the fund and move on to SuperNet.

all are long term prospects and I assume its only because you need to close this fund you are selling and disposing of this volume creates, price/liquidity problems... which is not necessarily creating the best outcome

I'm more than happy to do this if people agree? Then we can wrap up Fuzon more promptly.

@Fuzon holders
Voice your opinions about this proposal. Would you rather me continue working out the best time to sell or would you rather decide for yourselves?

+1440  In this regard, now that Fuzion is deprecated, I would prefer to liquid or hodl the individual assets according to my own strategy.  I see some that I would hold, and I see some that I would sell.
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« Reply #206 on: September 06, 2014, 01:40:12 pm »

i agree with chancer.
I´m just a hodler  ;) and this are very good assets
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« Reply #207 on: September 06, 2014, 01:47:39 pm »

I'll get onto this within 24 hours unless anyone objects. XDP is the only asset that I will need an address for. So get a wallet from dogeparty.io or get an account at poloniex.com and post your address in this thread.

It has been a pleasure everyone! See you all over at SuperNET.
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« Reply #208 on: September 06, 2014, 02:03:06 pm »

I'll get onto this within 24 hours unless anyone objects. XDP is the only asset that I will need an address for. So get a wallet from dogeparty.io or get an account at poloniex.com and post your address in this thread.

It has been a pleasure everyone! See you all over at SuperNET.

Dogeparty address: DRg6kbV5UEH8RyRF1813bhfZb4k18qTCnD

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« Reply #209 on: September 06, 2014, 02:23:43 pm »

i don´t want dogeparty  ;D
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« Reply #210 on: September 06, 2014, 02:34:13 pm »

i don´t want dogeparty  ;D

I'll have yours. ;)
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« Reply #211 on: September 06, 2014, 02:58:19 pm »

i don´t want dogeparty  ;D

I'll have yours. ;)

too late i sold my last fuzon but thank you mr fuzon i invest 50,000 nxt and make a profit of 75,000 Nxt that was nice  ;)
verry good times with nxtventure and the SuperNet Tokens!

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« Reply #212 on: September 06, 2014, 06:23:40 pm »

i don´t want dogeparty  ;D

I'll have yours. ;)

Send it to meeeee: Deposit: DM4RVJ74HMCfQhYxDUpfoSSmfrCGhR91DV

@Whale I assume you need some process where we send the assets we HODL to your issuing account and you then disperse the assets apart from XDP

Please let us know...

EDIT: Or do you just send the dividend at a certain time based on the HODLING....

Just a little bit worried about scammers once the asset is shutdown so perhaps better to have it all sent back?
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« Reply #213 on: September 06, 2014, 06:41:05 pm »

@whale: Like the idea, too. :-)

My XDP Poloniex adress: DJ5Gz9hAZhgRRXZKZyyWJY72EUSuvZM5Ak

NXT Wallet: NXT-BL9Q-B6W2-MK67-7XW6Z

Many Thanks!

 
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« Reply #214 on: September 06, 2014, 08:03:45 pm »

Here is my DP address on polo:  D6ukVU14vBVhyhD6Bf7nf21VAHFfVY2x1z

I almost purchased into dogeparty before holding off to buy into supernet.
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« Reply #215 on: September 06, 2014, 08:30:50 pm »

Here is my DP address on polo:  D6ukVU14vBVhyhD6Bf7nf21VAHFfVY2x1z

I almost purchased into dogeparty before holding off to buy into supernet.

A wise decision!
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« Reply #216 on: September 06, 2014, 08:32:14 pm »

How are you verifying DogeParty addresses. What happens if someone receives DogeParty and thereafter sells their Fuzon? As a Fuzon holder, I like Chancer's idea, but I can see issues. What happens to assetholders who don't follow this thread? What happens if people buy Fuzon assets later on by mistake?

Maybe a possible solution.
1) Choose a date to liquid the parts of Fuzon that can be done via AE (Nemstakes, BTCD, NXT etc.).
2) Distribute those assets via dividends. (Maybe also send a message explaining situation.)
3) After that, ask assetholders to send their DogeParty address, plus token to verify account, and have them send their Fuzon to genesis.
4) You send corresponding amount of DogeParty to every assetholder who does step3 in full.
5) Then liquidate remaining DogeParty and distribute funds from DogeParty liquidation to the rest of the assetholders.


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« Reply #217 on: September 06, 2014, 09:51:00 pm »

Before distributing anything you need to stop trading the Fuzon asset.
This is because any distribution of the underlying assets will change the value of Fuzon assets. This change will not be seen in the market quickly enough to prevent people being ripped off by the unscrupulous, desperate or uninformed Fuzon holder. You already have one asset holder who may have taken advantage of this ineficiency.

The TxtCoinsNow experience suggests any deadlines set before trading is stopped are unfair to the people that buy after the deadline.

The only way I know of stopping trading is to contact anyone with an open order and ask them to close it. If there is a better way I would like to know what it is.

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« Reply #218 on: September 06, 2014, 09:59:24 pm »

I don'T want dogeparty... too
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« Reply #219 on: September 06, 2014, 11:02:04 pm »

Alright I'll be removing all buy orders within the coming hours so last chance to take that option.

Here is the process:

1. Send your total amount of FZN to NXT-Z6DU-KBD5-KB73-9W37W after I say GO (I am not taking the buy walls off for another hour or so) and send me your XDP address in a Nxt message from the same account.

2. I'll send your share to the sender address from where your FZN and message came from

3. I will have poloniex make an announcement and there will also be an announcement on the bitcointalk thread

4. If there are still investors leftover, I'll send them a message over Nxt.
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« Reply #220 on: September 06, 2014, 11:14:50 pm »

Alright I'll be removing all buy orders within the coming hours so last chance to take that option.

Here is the process:

1. Send your total amount of FZN to NXT-Z6DU-KBD5-KB73-9W37W after I say GO (I am not taking the buy walls off for another hour or so) and send me your XDP address in a Nxt message from the same account.

2. I'll send your share to the sender address from where your FZN and message came from

3. I will have poloniex make an announcement and there will also be an announcement on the bitcointalk thread

4. If there are still investors leftover, I'll send them a message over Nxt.

Good plan, whale!
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« Reply #221 on: September 07, 2014, 05:32:25 am »

I have crunched and re-crunched the numbers of the top sixty coins on CMC. Mona Coin is the only one 'above the mark' since Bitcoin's April 10 inflection -- but it is still young, and none too stable (and hard to analyse because it's community is largely Japanese).

Only one coin has both held its values and has clearly-sound long-term prospects: Unobtanium. We are big on Nxt. We are learning our way around the SAE (jl777 and Nxxtycoin). Would love to see UNO in the portfolio.

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« Reply #222 on: September 07, 2014, 06:24:35 am »

Alright I'll be removing all buy orders within the coming hours so last chance to take that option.

ho shit,you this post and remove your buy wall while I was sleeping (less than 8h)... You should give us at leat 48h for switching option! You never said this would be mandatory!
I'm sorry, but if you do not put back buy wall and give us sufficient time to think about it. I will consider this unprofessional.

Please, putthe buy order again, I will liquidate my fuzon thanks.

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« Reply #223 on: September 07, 2014, 06:38:33 am »

Alright I'll be removing all buy orders within the coming hours so last chance to take that option.

ho shit,you this post and remove your buy wall while I was sleeping (less than 8h)... You should give us at leat 48h for switching option! You never said this would be mandatory!
I'm sorry, but if you do not put back buy wall and give us sufficient time to think about it. I will consider this unprofessional.

Please, putthe buy order again, I will liquidate my fuzon thanks.

You neither confirmed or denied the new idea and stayed on the fence. I need straight yes or no's and no one said no. Therefore I assumed most people were happy to continue.

5000 FZN wall up for 24 hours.
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« Reply #224 on: September 07, 2014, 06:43:08 am »

True, I just said I did not want the doge party, so I assume also that you would propose another option or leave this idea behind. The moral of the story: Never assume something... lol

Anyway, I have sell into your buy wall now, many Thanks you whale.

I'm glad I bought the fuzon in the first round, this was a very good investment. Good luck with superNET!
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« Reply #225 on: September 07, 2014, 06:50:52 am »

True, I just said I did not want the doge party, so I assume also that you would propose another option or leave this idea behind. The moral of the story: Never assume something... lol

Anyway, I have sell into your buy wall now, many Thanks you whale.

I'm glad I bought the fuzon in the first round, this was a very good investment. Good luck with superNET!

No problem. I'm happy to assist people with a way out. I'll leave it up until 7am Monday, 8 September 2014 Coordinated Universal Time (UTC)

Thank you for your trust from the beginning. Hopefully we all experience the same success with SuperNET!
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« Reply #226 on: September 07, 2014, 01:17:10 pm »

Whale, the OP is unclear:  Do you want the message sent to the Fuzion asset issuing account? NXT-YVLT-RZNQ-2GFB-A42TC?
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« Reply #227 on: September 07, 2014, 07:44:40 pm »

Whale, the OP is unclear:  Do you want the message sent to the Fuzion asset issuing account? NXT-YVLT-RZNQ-2GFB-A42TC?

And when do you want us to do this before or after monday when the sell walls are taken down?
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« Reply #228 on: September 07, 2014, 11:16:15 pm »

Whale, the OP is unclear:  Do you want the message sent to the Fuzion asset issuing account? NXT-YVLT-RZNQ-2GFB-A42TC?

And when do you want us to do this before or after monday when the sell walls are taken down?

I didn't include the address as there is always someone who won't read the messages entirety and proceed to send it to me. Once the walls are taken down, I'll do my calculations again and I'll post on here that it is time. So don't send anything until I say to do so in the thread.
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« Reply #229 on: September 08, 2014, 12:00:28 am »

Whale, the OP is unclear:  Do you want the message sent to the Fuzion asset issuing account? NXT-YVLT-RZNQ-2GFB-A42TC?

And when do you want us to do this before or after monday when the sell walls are taken down?

I didn't include the address as there is always someone who won't read the messages entirety and proceed to send it to me. Once the walls are taken down, I'll do my calculations again and I'll post on here that it is time. So don't send anything until I say to do so in the thread.

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« Reply #230 on: September 08, 2014, 05:23:38 am »

Am I reading the OP right and that you have over 400,000 BTCD? Is that even possible, there's only 1.1 million in total
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« Reply #231 on: September 08, 2014, 06:01:15 am »

Am I reading the OP right and that you have over 400,000 BTCD? Is that even possible, there's only 1.1 million in total

that is the value of NXT or what he liquidated them for.
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« Reply #232 on: September 08, 2014, 06:03:42 am »

Am I reading the OP right and that you have over 400,000 BTCD? Is that even possible, there's only 1.1 million in total

I wish! All of those figures are denominated in Nxt. However, please be aware that they could be outdated as I am still trading while the bids are up and differences in rates.

I will be extending the train stop for ~12 hours as I need to attend to some unexpected RL things. It gives people some more time to sell (if they have only just seen the poloniex notice) and I wouldn't have time to do the payout right now anyway.

Thank you all for the understanding.
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« Reply #233 on: September 08, 2014, 12:47:54 pm »

whale i would buy the btcd if you are selling down the holding.
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« Reply #234 on: September 08, 2014, 01:31:01 pm »

whale i would buy the btcd if you are selling down the holding.

A lot of the fuzon holders it seems want the assets (incl the BTCD) transferred to them...
Evidence being the sell wall hasn't been eaten by holders selling.
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« Reply #235 on: September 08, 2014, 02:04:40 pm »

I will not be able to use my client until next week. What to do?
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« Reply #236 on: September 08, 2014, 02:10:13 pm »

I will not be able to use my client until next week. What to do?

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I will not be able to use my client until next week. What to do?

No problem, just message me when you are back.

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« Reply #238 on: September 08, 2014, 08:59:33 pm »

Guys, I have contacted whale to make a offer to him to buy the BTCD coins.

He said he will provide escrow if anyone would like to cashout their coins into BTC.

I am buying at a rate of 0.012

Please let me know.
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« Reply #239 on: September 09, 2014, 10:51:38 am »

OPTION 2 BEGINS

I'm just setting up the MGW now. If anyone wants to receive their coins early, I don't mind if you send me a BTCD, BTC and XDP wallet. Please send these addresses in a message along with your transaction.

The Fuzon address is NXT-YVLT-RZNQ-2GFB-A42TC
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I'm just setting up the MGW now. If anyone wants to receive their coins early, I don't mind if you send me a BTCD, BTC and XDP wallet. Please send these addresses in a message along with your transaction.

The Fuzon address is NXT-YVLT-RZNQ-2GFB-A42TC

Just to be sure: We transfer our shares to NXT-YVLT-RZNQ-2GFB-A42TC and include the wallet addresses into this transaction? So there will be only one transaction for both?
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« Reply #241 on: September 09, 2014, 12:09:22 pm »

Sent my assets to the address and only an XDP address in the message as I would like AEAssets for the others
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« Reply #242 on: September 09, 2014, 12:28:02 pm »

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I'm just setting up the MGW now. If anyone wants to receive their coins early, I don't mind if you send me a BTCD, BTC and XDP wallet. Please send these addresses in a message along with your transaction.

The Fuzon address is NXT-YVLT-RZNQ-2GFB-A42TC

Just to be sure: We transfer our shares to NXT-YVLT-RZNQ-2GFB-A42TC and include the wallet addresses into this transaction? So there will be only one transaction for both?

Correct. Please include your XDP wallet with your transaction, otherwise it may get missed.
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« Reply #243 on: September 09, 2014, 12:42:11 pm »

so we can get them sent directly into their respective wallets and not as AE assets? basically, could i send you a list of my wallet addresses for each coin and get them that way? just making sure

how is NEMstake being divided, i thought it couldnt be broken down that much?

Thanks!
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        I'm just setting up the MGW now. If anyone wants to receive their coins early, I don't mind if you send me a BTCD, BTC and XDP wallet. Please send these addresses in a message along with your transaction.

        The Fuzon address is NXT-YVLT-RZNQ-2GFB-A42TC


    Just to be sure: We transfer our shares to NXT-YVLT-RZNQ-2GFB-A42TC and include the wallet addresses into this transaction? So there will be only one transaction for both?


Correct. Please include your XDP wallet with your transaction, otherwise it may get missed.

OK, thanks! Send my fuzon and included the XDP address. Could you post a break down what we can expect per fuzon share (NXT, BTCD, XDP etc.)?
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« Reply #245 on: September 09, 2014, 12:50:22 pm »

so we can get them sent directly into their respective wallets and not as AE assets? basically, could i send you a list of my wallet addresses for each coin and get them that way? just making sure

how is NEMstake being divided, i thought it couldnt be broken down that much?

Thanks!

If you like I can send BTC, BTCD and XDP to personal addresses. Nxtty, Nxt and NEM will be sent to your Nxt address. However include the wallets in the same message as the transaction.

NEM has one decimal place.
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #246 on: September 09, 2014, 02:41:27 pm »

Please ensure you do the following.

Instructions: Send your FZN to NXT-YVLT-RZNQ-2GFB-A42TC with an attached message that includes your XDP address.


People can expect payouts within 24 hours.
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #247 on: September 09, 2014, 03:45:15 pm »

FZN sent plus message confirming my Bter a/c dogecoin deposit address. Thanks
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #248 on: September 09, 2014, 03:49:19 pm »

Mgwbtcd is the same as regular btcd you just send your Mgwbtcd wallet address. You will need the mgw lite plug in to see this.
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #249 on: September 09, 2014, 05:10:25 pm »

Please ensure you do the following.

Instructions: Send your FZN to NXT-YVLT-RZNQ-2GFB-A42TC with an attached message that includes your XDP address.


People can expect payouts within 24 hours.
Done, thanks for your work!
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #250 on: September 09, 2014, 05:19:12 pm »

Transferred.
Thanks and good luck
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #251 on: September 09, 2014, 11:51:15 pm »

The 1 BTCD test that I sent to mgw never came through (James thinks the servers might be on a fork), therefore I'll pay out everything except the BTCD until we have a fix (unless you provide a BTCD address).

Sorry for the inconvenience.
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« Reply #252 on: September 10, 2014, 12:22:33 am »

The 1 BTCD test that I sent to mgw never came through (James thinks the servers might be on a fork), therefore I'll pay out everything except the BTCD until we have a fix (unless you provide a BTCD address).

Sorry for the inconvenience.

This sounds good. I already sent you my Fuzion.  Here's my BTCD address: bEiav8DjZRrBkZENShqYW1gDVbGdW8e8D4
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #253 on: September 10, 2014, 02:22:51 am »

The 1 BTCD test that I sent to mgw never came through (James thinks the servers might be on a fork), therefore I'll pay out everything except the BTCD until we have a fix (unless you provide a BTCD address).

Sorry for the inconvenience.

This sounds good. I already sent you my Fuzion.  Here's my BTCD address: bEiav8DjZRrBkZENShqYW1gDVbGdW8e8D4

Please keep in mind if you are wanting BTCD sent to a mgwBTCD account it may not come through until the MGW servers are fixed.
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #254 on: September 10, 2014, 02:45:18 am »

The 1 BTCD test that I sent to mgw never came through (James thinks the servers might be on a fork), therefore I'll pay out everything except the BTCD until we have a fix (unless you provide a BTCD address).

Sorry for the inconvenience.

This sounds good. I already sent you my Fuzion.  Here's my BTCD address: bEiav8DjZRrBkZENShqYW1gDVbGdW8e8D4

Please keep in mind if you are wanting BTCD sent to a mgwBTCD account it may not come through until the MGW servers are fixed.

Hehe - yep, I know. ;)
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #255 on: September 10, 2014, 06:22:59 am »

Overview

1 FZN = 11.27 Nxt, 0.0005 NEM, 297.5 Nxtty, 0.11 BTCD, 1.27 XDP, 0.0012 BTC


Please ensure that the amounts I sent you match the above. If you did not received BTCD, send me a Nxt message from the same account that sent me the FZN with your BTCD address. Unfortunately some of you did not have enough FZN to receive NEM (due to 1 decimal place). I may end up selling some NEM for Nxt to compensate those who are worried.
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« Reply #256 on: September 10, 2014, 06:48:45 am »

Hi whale, thanks a lot for the overview :-). Can we just wait for the MGW problem fixed and receive the BTCD via MGW or would you prefer to send it to BTCD wallets?
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« Reply #257 on: September 10, 2014, 07:01:14 am »

Hi whale, thanks a lot for the overview :-). Can we just wait for the MGW problem fixed and receive the BTCD via MGW or would you prefer to send it to BTCD wallets?
I cant debug Teleport and run the BTCD MGW at the same time
BTCD MGW could be offline/sporadic for a few days
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #258 on: September 10, 2014, 07:06:33 am »

Hi whale, thanks a lot for the overview :-). Can we just wait for the MGW problem fixed and receive the BTCD via MGW or would you prefer to send it to BTCD wallets?

No problem. Just looking to be as transparent as possible. Some people are sending me mgwBTCD addresses which is fine. You just need to understand that this is at your own risk and it will be delayed. However, James looks like he will be fixing it over the coming days.
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #259 on: September 10, 2014, 07:12:38 am »

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I cant debug Teleport and run the BTCD MGW at the same time
BTCD MGW could be offline/sporadic for a few days

Hi James, thanks for the information  :). What are a few days when having a big plan  :D ... I'll wait. MGW is a great tool/concept on the way to unity in cryptoland. So much things that will be possible soon, I'm excited  :)
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #260 on: September 10, 2014, 07:34:02 am »

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1 FZN = 11.27 Nxt, 0.0005 NEM, 297.5 Nxtty, 0.11 BTCD, 1.27 XDP, 0.0012 BTC

Did a quick calculation: That's about 91 NXT per Fuzon at current rates :-)
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #261 on: September 10, 2014, 08:34:35 am »

Overview

1 FZN = 11.27 Nxt, 0.0005 NEM, 297.5 Nxtty, 0.11 BTCD, 1.27 XDP, 0.0012 BTC


Please ensure that the amounts I sent you match the above. If you did not received BTCD, send me a Nxt message from the same account that sent me the FZN with your BTCD address. Unfortunately some of you did not have enough FZN to receive NEM (due to 1 decimal place). I may end up selling some NEM for Nxt to compensate those who are worried.

Will provide a BTCD adress tonight. Please sell some NEM for compensation - I held 100 Fuzon which equals 0.05 NEM, that's about 1200 NXT, I don't want to lose that  ;)
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #262 on: September 10, 2014, 10:34:50 am »

Overview

1 FZN = 11.27 Nxt, 0.0005 NEM, 297.5 Nxtty, 0.11 BTCD, 1.27 XDP, 0.0012 BTC


Please ensure that the amounts I sent you match the above. If you did not received BTCD, send me a Nxt message from the same account that sent me the FZN with your BTCD address. Unfortunately some of you did not have enough FZN to receive NEM (due to 1 decimal place). I may end up selling some NEM for Nxt to compensate those who are worried.

Yes, I would like my share of the NEM converted to NXT please.  I held 100 Fuzon.
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #263 on: September 10, 2014, 11:35:21 am »

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Yes, I would like my share of the NEM converted to NXT please.  I held 100 Fuzon.

Same for me, I held 71.4 Fuzon  :)
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #264 on: September 10, 2014, 01:00:40 pm »

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1 FZN = 11.27 Nxt, 0.0005 NEM, 297.5 Nxtty, 0.11 BTCD, 1.27 XDP, 0.0012 BTC

Did a quick calculation: That's about 91 NXT per Fuzon at current rates :-)

Yeah the coins I invested into continue to do well. Don't sell that XDP prematurely ;)



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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #265 on: September 10, 2014, 01:05:10 pm »

Or the nxtty. ;)
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #266 on: September 10, 2014, 01:54:08 pm »

Or the BTCD  ;)
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #267 on: September 10, 2014, 02:41:30 pm »

I received everything but the NEMstake. I assume this is because NEM doesn't have enough decimal places. I would like my NEMstake converted to NXT. I had 97.2.

Thanks for the excellent results!
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #268 on: September 10, 2014, 02:49:29 pm »

as mgwBTCD is down I sent you a message with BTCD address...

and thanks for closing this down so cleanly...
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #269 on: September 11, 2014, 01:15:00 am »

If you are owed NEM compensation or BTCD, please send me a Nxt message from the same address from where your FZN came from. I don't trust any random message in my inbox for obvious reasons :)


If you have already done this, don't send another message. I will get to you shortly.

Thanks everyone.
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« Reply #270 on: September 11, 2014, 07:49:16 am »

Message send  :) Thank you for all!
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #271 on: September 11, 2014, 12:54:30 pm »

I just sold 0.2 nem at 22,700 (4540 Nxt).

I'll starting sending out those nem payments.


Edit: Everyone who sent me messages about nem have been paid.
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« Reply #272 on: September 11, 2014, 01:16:19 pm »

Received, thank you!
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« Reply #273 on: September 11, 2014, 01:29:11 pm »

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« Reply #274 on: September 11, 2014, 04:06:45 pm »

BTW: You should change your signature soon  ;)
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Please decide your exit.
« Reply #275 on: September 11, 2014, 11:40:47 pm »

Received.  I'm completely out on Fuzon now.  Thanks for your efforts, Whale!
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Contact whale ASAP
« Reply #276 on: September 12, 2014, 09:13:59 am »

Received the last chunk (BTCD) so I'm completely out of Fuzon too. See you in SuperNET  8)
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Contact whale ASAP
« Reply #277 on: September 13, 2014, 09:15:24 pm »

250 Fuzon sent, hope everything worked fine...
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Contact whale ASAP
« Reply #278 on: September 14, 2014, 12:36:28 am »

Address ending in QE6K-B29GZ, you did not send a BTCD address. Your BTCD is now stuck until the server is fixed.

I'll reiterate again, if you do not send me a BTCD address, there will be indefinite delays to your BTCD deposit.

Edit: BTCD sent
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Re: Fuzon (FZN) CLOSING - Contact whale ASAP
« Reply #279 on: September 15, 2014, 08:13:15 pm »

@whale, you should ask gliss to remove fuzon from CMC. It look weird for NXT. Thanks!
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« Reply #280 on: September 16, 2014, 01:00:44 am »

@whale, you should ask gliss to remove fuzon from CMC. It look weird for NXT. Thanks!

Already onto it  :)
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