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NxtPlugins
« on: April 17, 2015, 12:20:29 am »


NxtPlugins
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Summary
NxtPlugins represents the platfrom http://nxtplugins.com. (In Beta until everything has been reviewed and officially released).
On NxtPlugins you will be able to find a controlled list of Plugins for the Nxt Wallet. Some might be for free, some for a special price listed on the Nxt Marketplace.
The Platform shows Plugin Details and Information from the Nxt Marketplace. Every public Feedback from the Blockchain can be seen and it enables a rating for a plugin after you have made a purchase. You will need a Token from the purchasing Account to verify to be able to rate a Plugin.

Each Plugin (or development group) will have its own Place of Sale, which will be represented by the Nxt Account selling the Plugin on the Marketplace. The Plugin creator has access to the Nxt Account and therefore control over the Plugin on the Marketplace. NxtPlugins will handle the Purchases and Downloads of the Plugin. Just Plugins that are shown on NxtPlugins.com are controlled by NxtPlugins.com. The Plugin Developer is able to create more Marketplace Items using the same Nxt Account.

Asset Description
ID: 3779904130149819589
Name: NxtPlugins

The Asset represents the Platform NxtPlugins.com and Asset Holdings of NxtPlugins Account NXT-CBGB-ZCDU-RLSB-6WNRW

Additionally, each Plugin (or developer) might create an own Asset or MSCoin, representing the value of the Plugin(s) and Revenue made by purchases with NxtPlugins.
If possible, NxtPlugins will invest in those Assets/Coins and tries to archieve 10-20% (but might vary) of each of those. This can be done through intial funding of a plugin initiative or later involvements.

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1. NxtPlugins Assets are bearer Assets issued via a digitally signed certificate on the Nxt Asset Exchange. 2. The issuer maintains no records of who owns the assets. 3. Ownership is transferred by transferring the digital certificate representing a particular asset. 4. Whoever can demonstrate ownership of the private-key securing the certificate is presumed to own the asset. For a more detailed description of the Asset, please refer to http://assets.nxtplugins.com

Today (17.04) the Pre-Sale of 10% will start at 5 NXT each share. I will be working on NxtPlugins and trying to make it as good as possible. Every of my actions regarding the Platform or the Asset will be guided by trying to make the best out of it. Asset Funds are used for operating costs, development efforts in the Platform, Plugin investments and Plugin development fundings.

Please invest carefully.

Goals
The Nxt System is under vast development, there are already several developer working on the Client and making the best out of it. In my view, Plugins can go one step further than any official client. Create Overviews of the Marketplace, Asset Exchange, Monetary System, Phasing, Voting etc in a subjective way. The User can decide which of those views he wants to get directly in the Nxt Wallet with the same level of security.
Blockchain Companies can add their special view on the Blockchain and it also allows for interesting combinations of all those transaction types. The Source code for the Wallet is Open and all the functionality the Wallet brings can be used by the Plugins, it therefore makes it comfortable to develop a Plugin for the Wallet. NxtPlugins aims to help development efforts with funding and providing the SalesPoint on NxtPlugins.com.

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Re: NxtPlugins
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2015, 12:21:08 am »

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Re: NxtPlugins
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2015, 08:18:50 am »

The whole program. Very cool! :-)
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2015, 12:26:03 pm »

Good idea and good luck! Bought some.
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Re: NxtPlugins
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2015, 02:18:05 pm »

I bought the MSInfo plugin and I have followed the instructions to install it : dezip it in nxt/html/ui/plugins

The problem is that I usually use Supernet 1.4.16.1 as my NRS client, but there is no folder named "plugins" within "ui", so I have created one, then I put the MSinfo dezip within, but running the NRS Client and opening my wallet there is no plugin within. Supernet doesn't supoort any plugin or I am wrong ?

I have the pure NXT NRS Client 1.15e too, I runned it after install MSInfo, and I checked that all is ok, the plugin is installed.

I am a little bit confused with Supernet NRS Client and the pure NXT NRS client. The first is very useful because of the multigateway but it seems imposible to use plugins within and the voting system is so simplified that we cannot use MS coin for voting. The second have the full system of voting, and we can install plugins within, but it does'nt have the multigateway.
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Re: NxtPlugins
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2015, 02:49:22 pm »

I bought the MSInfo plugin and I have followed the instructions to install it : dezip it in nxt/html/ui/plugins

The problem is that I usually use Supernet 1.4.16.1 as my NRS client, but there is no folder named "plugins" within "ui", so I have created one, then I put the MSinfo dezip within, but running the NRS Client and opening my wallet there is no plugin within. Supernet doesn't supoort any plugin or I am wrong ?

I have the pure NXT NRS Client 1.15e too, I runned it after install MSInfo, and I checked that all is ok, the plugin is installed.

I am a little bit confused with Supernet NRS Client and the pure NXT NRS client. The first is very useful because of the multigateway but it seems imposible to use plugins within and the voting system is so simplified that we cannot use MS coin for voting. The second have the full system of voting, and we can install plugins within, but it does'nt have the multigateway.

Thank you for testing out the whole process!

You are right, SuperNET does not support those Plugins (yet). Plugins came with Nxt 1.5.0e Release. SuperNET still uses 1.4.16

As soon as SuperNET itself switches to 1.5x, you will be able to use the Plugins in your SuperNET Wallet.

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Re: NxtPlugins
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2015, 03:20:33 pm »

I am fascinated, the pre-Sale happened way faster than I could have imagined. Within 24 hours the Assets were sold on the Asset Exchange. Thank you for your trust! I will be working hard to make this an amazing platform!

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Re: NxtPlugins
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2015, 04:05:16 pm »

I am fascinated, the pre-Sale happened way faster than I could have imagined. Within 24 hours the Assets were sold on the Asset Exchange. Thank you for your trust! I will be working hard to make this an amazing platform!

Dummies like me need such a platform to find and install plugins easily  :)

Thanks for your precedent response.

I have read the security warning file, now I will be afraid to use plugins!!! In which sense I should trust your platform more than another in order to collect and install useful plugins?
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2015, 04:21:17 pm »

I have read the security warning file, now I will be afraid to use plugins!!! In which sense I should trust your platform more than another in order to collect and install useful plugins?

It is good that you are raising this concern.

The Plugins offered on NxtPlugins.com are reviewed by several developer. Currently I am in contact with lyaffe and HolgerD77 (both Core Developer of Nxt). I sent them the source code of MSInfo and they already have insights for some weeks now.
The Client has already made a great step into making this more secure and easy to handle (you can login into accounts without entering your passphrase). So, as long as you do not use the "remember password during session" function, you have no risk using any plugin. If you do, you can click on "disable plugins". Then Plugins do not have any chance to do you harm.
I think that in the future, we will find even better ways to make it comfortable using Plugins in your Wallet and still have the same security as with native functions.

But as long as Plugins have the chance to harm your Wallet, I will provide the review of several developer for any Plugin before I offer them on NxtPlugins.com

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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2015, 04:45:58 pm »


It is good that you are raising this concern.

Thanks.

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you can login into accounts without entering your passphrase

How this?

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So, as long as you do not use the "remember password during session" function, you have no risk using any plugin.

This point make me dubious because in the security warning file it's written : "Logging into the client without remembering the passphrase won't make
the process more secure."
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2015, 04:49:02 pm »


It is good that you are raising this concern.

Thanks.

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you can login into accounts without entering your passphrase

How this?

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So, as long as you do not use the "remember password during session" function, you have no risk using any plugin.

This point make me dubious because in the security warning file it's written : "Logging into the client without remembering the passphrase won't make
the process more secure."

Yes, I guess by the time of writing this warning the feature of logging in without entering your passphrase did not exist yet.

If you use the 1.5x NRS, you will have the option to enter your NXT-XXX-XXX-XXX-XXXX Account to enter the Wallet. There can nothing happen when you log in this way and have the plugins installed. Doing something to your passphrase requires that you enter it at some point.

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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2015, 04:58:31 pm »

Ah ok, I understand better.

Using Testnet I had noticed that effectivly we can enter in the wallet just typing the account number, but I thought it was just a particularity of the Testnet server because it does'nt matter if someone gets access to false accounts. But are you saying that in the future (after the phase test of 1.15e will be closed and approved), we will be able to enter into our wallet just typing the account ID ? Really I can't imagine that (so everybody could have a look on my wallets, contacts and such things ?), or maybe I missread you.
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2015, 05:05:23 pm »

Ah ok, I understand better.

Using Testnet I had noticed that effectivly we can enter in the wallet just typing the account number, but I thought it was just a particularity of the Testnet server because it does'nt matter if someone gets access to false accounts. But are you saying that in the future (after the phase test of 1.15e will be closed and approved), we will be able to enter into our wallet just typing the account ID ? Really I can't imagine that (so everybody could have a look on my wallets, contacts and such things ?), or maybe I missread you.

Nope, you did not understand me wrong, that is how it works. Welcome to Crypto 2.0 ;)
Even the Bitcoin Blockchain is as transparent as this. With some effort you could build such a client for Bitcoin, too. The transactions on the Blockchain are transparent to everyone.

There is a difference in the Wallet between Data on the Blockchain (which cost fee to submit) and data hosted on your computer. Things like Asset Bookmarks, Nxt Accounts (the one you can do the NXT-XXX-XXX-XXX-XXX with), Contacts etc are all stored on your computer and not the Blockchain. Hence another person does not see your Contacts or Accounts, but the amount you have of any Asset, your Aliases, your Holdings, your Transaction History etc.

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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2015, 05:15:19 pm »

so everybody could have a look on my wallets, contacts and such things ?

Amount of coins: yes, transactions: yes. (like with any blockchain explorer)
Contacts: no (they are stored locally I believe), the content of encrypted messages: no.

edit: Should have read your post, Tosch110, you already explained it well.
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2015, 05:45:52 pm »

I understand well now (indeed it's necesary to make the difference between blockchain storage and local storage) but I am still in trouble  ???

I am not afraid of the blockchain transparency, it's part of the game for me and I think this the right way to build an economy more fair. I confess that sometimes I have studied other accounts than mine just by curiosity or because I was trying to understand better what could be a good strategy for a beginner asset holder like me, or to study what type of rewards I could hit if I hold a huge quantity of xxx assets, etc. So I have consulted the blockchain online via Nxtreporting or Nxtblocks.info.

But the idea someone can open my wallet make me worried. Its sounds for me as if I would invite the thief in my house being so sure he will not be able to steal nothing because I have a huge password ! Okay, I have no doubt that I can trust to the genious core devs of NXT, I know they will strongly lock all of that to secure the process,  but why take such risks ? Even if I know the thief can't steal nothing, I don't want to invit him in my house. It remembers me the Bible say : "Don't tempt the thief" or something like that.

Maybe can you explain me why this new feature that will come was so necessary ?
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« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2015, 11:04:08 pm »

I understand well now (indeed it's necesary to make the difference between blockchain storage and local storage) but I am still in trouble  ???

I am not afraid of the blockchain transparency, it's part of the game for me and I think this the right way to build an economy more fair. I confess that sometimes I have studied other accounts than mine just by curiosity or because I was trying to understand better what could be a good strategy for a beginner asset holder like me, or to study what type of rewards I could hit if I hold a huge quantity of xxx assets, etc. So I have consulted the blockchain online via Nxtreporting or Nxtblocks.info.

But the idea someone can open my wallet make me worried. Its sounds for me as if I would invite the thief in my house being so sure he will not be able to steal nothing because I have a huge password ! Okay, I have no doubt that I can trust to the genious core devs of NXT, I know they will strongly lock all of that to secure the process,  but why take such risks ? Even if I know the thief can't steal nothing, I don't want to invit him in my house. It remembers me the Bible say : "Don't tempt the thief" or something like that.

Maybe can you explain me why this new feature that will come was so necessary ?

I think its a great feature to handle your logins and makes it possible to overview your account without any security issues. It also adds an addtional layer: You can decide which accounts you want to overview. You can easily watch the funds from a cooperation, from a shared account, from any user... but whom accounts are you interested in?
Remember, the banks have the same control over your funds all the time (and they do abuse it), if you have your money there. And yes, the passphrase is the only thing blocking somebody from taking your funds, that is why passphrases have to be complex and secure. Make the best out of it and you are safe, current effords (the passphrase generator) do help the user through these steps

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« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2015, 06:49:29 am »

good works.
Added on nxt123.org.
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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2015, 09:33:36 am »

But the idea someone can open my wallet make me worried. Its sounds for me as if I would invite the thief in my house being so sure he will not be able to steal nothing because I have a huge password !

You can go to one of the Nxt block explorers, enter an account name and see all the transactions. This is exactly the same. You can't go to a block explorer and spend someone's money. Being worried about this, is like being worried that because you give someone a public key to your account (so they can send you money), that they'll be able to empty your account.
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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2015, 10:00:21 am »

A promising new asset. Good luck :)
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Re: NxtPlugins
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2015, 12:56:24 pm »

Thanks whale.

As many of you noted, I have published the Beta of the Platform in the Nxt Plugins forum: https://nxtforum.org/nxt-plugins/nxtplugins-com/

I have added more details about the Security procedures. Please, lets continue all discussions about the Platform there. I will have the Beta running for more or less 2 weeks, before I will start to publish more Plugins on the Platform. Please help me out testing the purchase procedure, Rating, Signing and leaving Feedback.

I am in contact with a bunch of other developer now who are working on Plugins which will be sold on NxtPlugins. As soon as the Asset is created, I will inform you here as the shares are distributed to the NxtPlugins Account.
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