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Re: KPS pays a dividend
« Reply #100 on: November 27, 2014, 10:50:03 am »

Not only the pages are wiped clean, but after the link between KPS and usagi was shown,
printshop added his robots.txt

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User-agent: ia_archiver
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Disallow:
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Disallow: /wordpress/

Now the cached pages showing the 2012 copyright work on his blog is made by one of the most notorious scammers of bitcointalk on printshop's lost blog pages are hidden/ 

Why would you remove access to that? Was there any harmful info left?
And why "add" an index page AFTER you were shown to be wiping the trails?

Printshop is wiping his tracks.
A house of cards can only last that long, printshop.

You can continue insulting me and ignoring my points, the rest of the users are reading.
You can appeal to the mods and report and even ban me.

It only serves my point, when the questions are cornering you, you resort to dirty tactics, name calling, trolling accusations, accusations of sockpupetry, calls to users to ignore the annoying voices, calls to mods to "do the right thing and ban the annoying one"

More people need to step up.
Google "usagi" and read about his adventurous series of assets on bitcointalk, make a comparison.
Read how user "usagi" responds to critics, and compare his posting attitude with printshop.
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Re: KPS pays a dividend
« Reply #101 on: November 27, 2014, 11:46:06 am »

Now the cached pages showing the 2012 copyright work on his blog is made by one of the most notorious scammers of bitcointalk on printshop's lost blog pages are hidden/ 

Why do you keep claiming the pages are wiped clean when they're still there? Why do you keep claiming I am usagi? Unfortunately for you, usagi sold his sites, and I have proof from CIRA of a registrar transfer in early 2013. He also sold hotwallet.ca to starsoccer. So fuck you.

Also, looking over the OTC rating from starsoccer to usagi, i'm not sure where you are getting scammer from, he has positive ratings from everyone except the assbot trolls. Many of whom are banned from bitcointalk for behavior just like yours.

Take the hint, if anyone believed anything you had to say they would chime in. Go back to bitcointalk or wherever you came from. You don't belong here.
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Re: KPS pays a dividend
« Reply #102 on: November 27, 2014, 12:09:29 pm »

Now the cached pages showing the 2012 copyright work on his blog is made by one of the most notorious scammers of bitcointalk on printshop's lost blog pages are hidden/ 

Why do you keep claiming the pages are wiped clean when they're still there?

Google says more than just the starsoccer user. BTT has threads upon threads of history.
Why dont you post a screenshot of your pages in 2012 or 2013 showing the copyright holder if they are still there?
And isn't it usagi selling the site to whoever sold it to you very coincidentally convenient?

edit: oh,hi printshop. I guess you unignored me, nice to see you again/
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Re: KPS pays a dividend
« Reply #103 on: November 27, 2014, 12:38:55 pm »

Now the cached pages showing the 2012 copyright work on his blog is made by one of the most notorious scammers of bitcointalk on printshop's lost blog pages are hidden/ 

Why do you keep claiming the pages are wiped clean when they're still there?

Google says more than just the starsoccer user. BTT has threads upon threads of history.
Why dont you post a screenshot of your pages in 2012 or 2013 showing the copyright holder if they are still there?
And isn't it usagi selling the site to whoever sold it to you very coincidentally convenient?

edit: oh,hi printshop. I guess you unignored me, nice to see you again/

Since you want everything to be open and honest, let's. I am not hiding anything -- I am registered on Ardeva with several pieces of government photo ID. How about you? Are you even a KPS shareholder?

Why have you ignored evidence which proves that you are wrong, and refused to answer simple questions I put to you, like https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=4916.msg134127#msg134127 ?

Since you have no actual interest in KPS, and obviously haven't lost any money investing in my companies, I have to wonder (with a sort of "morbid curiosity") why you even bother? Is someone paying you to post these messages?

You've been asked these questions before. Why do you refuse to answer them?

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Re: KPS pays a dividend
« Reply #104 on: November 27, 2014, 07:39:05 pm »

Since you want everything to be open and honest, let's. I am not hiding anything -- I am registered on Ardeva with several pieces of government photo ID. How about you? Are you even a KPS shareholder?

Why have you ignored evidence which proves that you are wrong, and refused to answer simple questions I put to you, like https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=4916.msg134127#msg134127 ?

Since you have no actual interest in KPS, and obviously haven't lost any money investing in my companies, I have to wonder (with a sort of "morbid curiosity") why you even bother? Is someone paying you to post these messages?

You've been asked these questions before. Why do you refuse to answer them?

Oh, do i have your attention now? Really? Stop deflecting.
You are not in a position to ask now. You should accept questions in good faith.
But now it's late. You know it, dont you?

let me quote you:
You've been asked these questions before. Why do you refuse to answer them?

https://nxtforum.org/asset-exchange-general/kps-pays-a-dividend/msg133903/#msg133903
this is my very first post in any of your threads.

Start asnwering those questions, first.

All i asked was that you clarified and acknowledged your idea of a fair price for KPS
and a KPS/Safehash swap ratio.


You could have just answered these two questions, none of this would have happened, have you realised it yet?
I don't give a flying fly about ardeva printshop. I asked for clarity in a good and polite manner, so many times.

It does not matter if ardeva has your id.
It does not matter if i am a shareholder or not, you could not verify that in any way.

It does not matter who i am, i am not starting and closing multiple assets in multiple fields
i know nothing about with other peoples' money.
Nor do i change my activities, copying anything remotely more profitable every other week.

I never even accused you of anything.
I merely started digging when you made it clear that instead of answering questions people asked more than once, you attacked.

What really matters is your reaction to my simple questions. Your reactions do not breed trust.

You are the one throwing accusations, read your posts. For those accusations, as well as for your PM expressions
 i would expect a public apology.

to quote you once again, from your own responses to my call for information:

Okay, you be Frank, I'll be Mary.
Hi Frank, how ya doin'? How ya doin?

You're a very new poster, who is obviously a sock puppet of another, and you're asking questions which have been answered several times before...

...if you're not a troll, please stop posting here. You may PM me with your questions. Let me make that clear; don't post here again, you are spamming my thread with questions which have already been answered (both publicly and privately).

Get this one:
I mean come on, the very reason KPS is closing is because the profits are being used to guaranty the loan from NxtGlaive.

How.On.Earth. can the profit from a closed (shutdown) asset guarantee anything?
HOW can a closed asset have profit?
WHY would an unlicenced & legally registered federal corporation/investment fund from Canada that we cant look up touch any of your unregulated stuff, when you are closing down because as you say they are unprofitable?

Dont try to deflect anything, if you want to be taken seriously, unlike my "incredulous" self.
Just answer my initial two questions publicly and in a crystal clear manner.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2014, 07:42:27 pm by okaynow »
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Re: KPS pays a dividend
« Reply #105 on: November 27, 2014, 08:51:31 pm »

Oh, do i have your attention now? Really? Stop deflecting.
You are not in a position to ask now. You should accept questions in good faith.
But now it's late. You know it, dont you?

Yes, you have my attention, and you will tell us who you are and what your interest is in KPS, or you will be ignored. Good day.

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Re: KPS pays a dividend
« Reply #106 on: November 27, 2014, 09:02:20 pm »

Notice:

Will the owner of address NXT-CSMZ-VJV5-YVVP-5FZQU please contact me by PM or e-mail? We didn't discuss how many SafeHash (or what other assets) you want, so I don't know how many to transfer. I will send 1300 right away, please PM me and we can discuss how many more you are owed.

Roger.

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Re: KPS pays a dividend
« Reply #107 on: November 28, 2014, 01:41:33 am »

In his defense, I think okaynow is 100% not a socket puppet but an actual person interested in crypto, I find this thread disturbing that he has been dismissed like this. No offense printshop.

He may speak english as a second language, but who can hold that against him?
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« Reply #108 on: November 28, 2014, 06:45:21 am »

In his defense, I think okaynow is 100% not a socket puppet but an actual person interested in crypto, I find this thread disturbing that he has been dismissed like this. No offense printshop.

He may speak english as a second language, but who can hold that against him?

He hasn't been dismissed, I've answered his questions several times. He has been ignored. He repeats his questions, becoming more aggressive each time. Don't you find that strange? This is his first post in the discussion:

so printshop, what exactly is happening now?  Your swift and announced decisions are not really helpful.
Why not having this discussion in the open, instead of a pm?

I would think that the terms would be same for every user, so just be kind enough and explain to us the procedure
and terms and conditions, please.

I'm sure that most users will benefit from having an open and transparent way of closing this asset down and
moving ahead.

I am completely confused, none of your threads are completely clear on the matter.

Are you buying at prices 5%-10% more than what each user bought in?
Or are you swapping for safehash and at what ratio?

or are you accommodating both options?

I did in fact respond to him right away (next post) and answered his questions about the swap ratio and why things were being handled in PM. But he wasn't interested in an answer. As soon as I saw his next few posts, repeating the same questions and becoming more aggressive, I knew he was only here to cause trouble.

When you run into a poster like this, you have to be really careful, they aren't really looking for answers, they're looking to trash you and screw you over. I've seen it before. They never really understand anything, but they're sharp as a tack when it comes to "investigating" you. Funny how that works ehh?

To date five different shareholders have exchanged for SafeHash or other assets. No one has lost any money at all. No single shareholder has complained. But look at okaynow, ignored my responses and Satoshi's screenshot by screenshot instructions. Why does no one else have a problem except him?

Do not be surprised that there is controversy over SafeHash and NxtGlaive, pf. I want you to be a part of this. There is a lot of good we can do on a project like this. Once SafeHash enters phase 2, you will understand. Join us :)
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Re: KPS pays a dividend
« Reply #109 on: November 28, 2014, 09:12:10 am »

In his defense, I think okaynow is 100% not a socket puppet but an actual person interested in crypto, I find this thread disturbing that he has been dismissed like this. No offense printshop.

He may speak english as a second language, but who can hold that against him?

He hasn't been dismissed, I've answered his questions several times. He has been ignored. He repeats his questions, becoming more aggressive each time. Don't you find that strange? This is his first post in the discussion:

so printshop, what exactly is happening now?  Your swift and announced decisions are not really helpful.
Why not having this discussion in the open, instead of a pm?

I would think that the terms would be same for every user, so just be kind enough and explain to us the procedure
and terms and conditions, please.

I'm sure that most users will benefit from having an open and transparent way of closing this asset down and
moving ahead.

I am completely confused, none of your threads are completely clear on the matter.

Are you buying at prices 5%-10% more than what each user bought in?
Or are you swapping for safehash and at what ratio?

or are you accommodating both options?


I did in fact respond to him right away (next post) and answered his questions about the swap ratio and why things were being handled in PM.

But you did not answer any of my questions anywhere. You pointed at the locked thread and at your safehash threads where you "hinted" that a swap "might" be accomodated/ Not clear, not concise, not assuring of anything.

You argued that "people pay various prices", which is irrelevant.
Vague descriptions everywhere.

Why did satoshi have to come to your rescue? Is he the manager of your asset?
It is your responsibility to inform whoever asks for info, satoshi is not a KPS spokesperson. Or is he?

Users buying your crap, are not entering an agreement with satoshi, or anyone else except you.
Why should i care about what some other issuer says? I cared more about you NOT answering and others coming to support their investments.

That is not an answer printshop, that is you evading questions.
Show me and everyone else one post where you clearly state the prices i asked for in NXT and not in terms of an oracle.

Aggression is evident in your public and private discussions with me. The questions are so simple and so much repeated that you missed them on purpose.

You are making wild accusations, and you are actively and aggressively pushing the safehash crap on the people.
You are pretending to not notice my questions, you are doing it wrong.

"I've bought the safehash back up my self,  hurr durr, you are in a safe boat, hurry up and buy my ponzi" is part of your routine.
"KPS (an one person company, managed by you) entered a deal with safehash(another one person company managed by you)"
"NxtGlaive came along and is throwing thousands of dollars my way for backing a loan, which is guaranteed by the profits of my closed company"

Horseshit, thats what we call these statements where i come from, printshop

You are making statements that eight year olds can refute.
You still have not shown anywhere, what is a fair price and what is the ratio for kps/safehash.

Your responses, actions and reactions, the way you dismiss nd ignore whatever you feel you are too big to explain is evident of what will happen to peoples coins soon. Why are you in such a rush, oh almighty manager?

Scammers like you are here only to milk this cow.
If you cared about the future of your assets you would not be dismissive of those two questions/
You are changing assets so soon only to keep the ponzi alive.

You cant, everyone is on to you.

Tell me what is your fair buyback price in exact numbers
and tell me what is the KPS/safehash ratio.

EDIT: why do people have to FIRST pay you to join the boat, and THEN understand how profit will come?
It should be the other way around, no?
« Last Edit: November 28, 2014, 09:22:53 am by okaynow »
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Re: KPS pays a dividend
« Reply #110 on: November 28, 2014, 09:43:19 am »

You are making wild accusations, and you are actively and aggressively pushing the safehash crap on the people.

"I've bought the safehash back up my self,  hurr durr, you are in a safe boat, hurry up and buy my ponzi" is part of your routine.

Horseshit, thats what we call these statements where i come from, printshop

You are making statements that eight year olds can refute.

Scammers like you are here only to milk this cow.

Dear anonymous troller:

Thank you for writing us today with your accusations that we are running a ponzi. This gives us the opportunity to show everyone once again how rock-solid our books are. You can check them yourself by visiting nxtreporting.com/?a=NXT-X5EF-HTB2-RLYU-HW8E7 -- they're public.

Data from: nxtreporting.com/?a=NXT-X5EF-HTB2-RLYU-HW8E7

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Asset Shares last price total
USDbitfnx 1547.9 52 80490.8
HRNXTPool 193 56 10808
STSH 1360 54 73440
SAAS 47 69 3243
HRLTCGear 104400 1 104400
ltc2nXt 68 25 1700
LTCshare2G 0 126.2601 0
iHash 1103 9.9 10919.7
MMNXT 0 1.49 0
MIC 762500 0.002 1525
gNxt 10000000000 0.00000001 100
RGDO 5 0.81 4.05
ltc2nxt2 2000 25 50000
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NXT and open orders 25902
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TOTAL 362532.55
Payable Shares 164127
Backing Per Share 2.20885381

As you can see, we maintain more than 2 NXT in backing for every 1 share we have sold (50,000 shares held by me are being used as "backing tickets" and do not carry a guarantee).

So in other words, not only do we have all of our investor's money on hand and ready to go, we have an additional 1 NXT invested for them into mining. I realize that to you, this is a "ponzi". But if this is the definition of "ponzi" then a "ponzi" is a good investment.

We are currently stabilizing around 200,000 shares sold (150,000 + backing shares), and will increase our leverage until we are leveraged 3 for 1 (not just 2 to 1). At that point, "50%" of 2 NXT invested into mining per 1 NXT per share will make SafeHash the highest paying asset money can buy, but with a unique feature; should anything happen to the actual investment, you will get your 1 NXT back.

If you sit down and think about the supply-demand dynamics of where this is going to go in aftermarket, I believe you will come to the same conclusion our shareholders have :) Good luck, and keep those questions coming!
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Re: KPS pays a dividend
« Reply #111 on: November 28, 2014, 12:16:06 pm »

I'm a rather small/"hobby" NXTer and have put up my eleven shares @ 20NXT for sale. This might be a small amount to the most of you but I could quite need it to reinvest this quite-a-portion of my NXT. Now the thing is that more and more ppl put in cheaper sell orders leading to kind of a "starvation" effect to mine.
My question is: Is it granted, that all (plausible) sellings will be bought up sooner or later?
Oh, and while I'm at it: How many SafeHash shares would I get for that?

Thanks for any clarification!
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Re: KPS pays a dividend
« Reply #112 on: November 28, 2014, 12:20:43 pm »

ah, printshop, i see, you can't hear me over the sound of the cherries you pick

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Cherry picking (fallacy):
Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position, while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position. It is a kind of fallacy of selective attention, the most common example of which is the confirmation bias. Cherry picking may be committed intentionally or unintentionally. This fallacy is a major problem in public debate.

Cherrypick this:
Asset Issuers/Managers who rebounded with different products and services and offered first profits to help pay people back:
-Usagi
(is on record stating that profits from book sales and kongzi.ca will be used to pay back loan holders and bold holders).
source: scam accusations, btt https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113708.0

or, better yet, cherrypick this:
https://bitcointa.lk/threads/kongzi-ca-going-live-investment-presales-opportunities.73238/
usagi through kongzi.ca is selling what??

i can see the first scammer tag of nxtforums designed especially for you.


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Re: KPS pays a dividend
« Reply #113 on: November 28, 2014, 12:42:46 pm »

Ouch!
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Re: KPS pays a dividend
« Reply #114 on: November 28, 2014, 01:09:51 pm »

I'm a rather small/"hobby" NXTer and have put up my eleven shares @ 20NXT for sale. This might be a small amount to the most of you but I could quite need it to reinvest this quite-a-portion of my NXT. Now the thing is that more and more ppl put in cheaper sell orders leading to kind of a "starvation" effect to mine.
My question is: Is it granted, that all (plausible) sellings will be bought up sooner or later?
Oh, and while I'm at it: How many SafeHash shares would I get for that?

Thanks for any clarification!
p.

It would be easier to do this in PM so we don't clutter up the thread. I'll take you through the process of determining how much you paid for KPS, and we will do a 1 for 1 transfer.

There's a 25,000 NXT bid order for SafeHash shares, so you can sell out right away if that's what you want to do :)

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« Reply #115 on: November 28, 2014, 01:11:40 pm »

Ouch!

I agree -- where's that warning, Damelon? You should have just deleted him when I reported the spammy attack posts earlier, he obviously isn't going to stop.

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« Reply #116 on: November 28, 2014, 01:12:44 pm »

I'm a rather small/"hobby" NXTer and have put up my eleven shares @ 20NXT for sale. This might be a small amount to the most of you but I could quite need it to reinvest this quite-a-portion of my NXT. Now the thing is that more and more ppl put in cheaper sell orders leading to kind of a "starvation" effect to mine.
My question is: Is it granted, that all (plausible) sellings will be bought up sooner or later?
Oh, and while I'm at it: How many SafeHash shares would I get for that?

Thanks for any clarification!
p.

It would be easier to do this in PM so we don't clutter up the thread. I'll take you through the process of determining how much you paid for KPS, and we will do a 1 for 1 transfer.

There's a 25,000 NXT bid order for SafeHash shares, so you can sell out right away if that's what you want to do :)

It would be easier for printshop to go to pm, because in pm noone can hear you scream

edit: printshop, you know it is not spam, when it is relevant to your shady business scamming people of their coins since 2012, right?

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Re: KPS pays a dividend
« Reply #117 on: November 28, 2014, 01:23:15 pm »

Could the moderators do something to this spamming? Okaynow's postings remind me of that bluemeanie thread on BCT...
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Re: KPS pays a dividend
« Reply #118 on: November 28, 2014, 01:25:36 pm »

Could the moderators do something to this spamming? Okaynow's postings remind me of that bluemeanie thread on BCT...

my posts remind you of bluemeanie? i am not the one who holds your nxt, it is printshop/usagi.
i am only showing you his background.

just read those links, printshop is usagi, very much like bluemeanie is joshua.
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Re: KPS pays a dividend
« Reply #119 on: November 28, 2014, 01:29:21 pm »

Could the moderators do something to this spamming? Okaynow's postings remind me of that bluemeanie thread on BCT...

Cum incidere, I just said that in my last report too.

I urge everyone to report him, we do not need attack dog spammers here.
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