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Update Snap Shot: First Dividend has been paid check your accounts!
 

Cryptovest Financial Services Asset Id:  3982465794986004670

CVFS is proud to issue 100000 CVFS NXT assets. The owner of these assets has the right to claim profits of Cryptovest FS based on the clarification of ownership as stated out in the corporate structure of the prospectus of the full VIPO. That is that 15% of all profits generated from our customer fees should be paid to the owner of any certified CVFS asset.  You can download the full prospectus here http://www.cryptovest.co.uk   login details User: Investor Pass:CVFS

Ardeve Identification- https://ardeva.com/profile/c5170b1c-2cd3-4471-93bf-e5ab8a354f54

Promo Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcv90_I68Mc



By purchasing these assets you help CVFS to raise money to help realize some clear objectives.   

 1. Provide realistic, sustainable and stable long term returns for their shareholders.
 2. Kick start their asset management company by covered basic costs to create regulated/non regulated investment products.
 3. Promote market stability by expanding our services and improving the crypto market infrastructure by providing free open source software to the community.
4. When we issue in a new crypto currency our customers have a portion of their fees distirbuted to that crypto currency (NXT in this case) and this is used to provide a natural liquidity for our assets and allows them to get their first step into NXT

About the business model:

To understand more about our business we encourage you to visit our website and read our prospectus document http://www.cryptovest.co.uk/resources/VIPO%20CVIM%20Full%201.1.pdf

We provide a platform for fiat investor who want low risk exposure to cryptocurrencies and charge them fee's a portion of which are redistributed to all CVFS asset holders.

We pay dividends in NXT monthly starting from March.

Dividends paid

15364851514925051432 21/03/2015 03:02:06   Dividend Payment 0.35 CVFS
10847790907191962857 31/03/2015 16:19:14   Dividend Payment 0.35 CVFS   



About the IPO and Shares:
 
Quick  Key Facts:   
   
• All crypto assets have equal voting rights.

• All shares can be converted to  hold co (BIT4me) shares if requested.

• Our Governance Committee monitors operations to eliminate internal fraud and improve ethical. We pay dividends monthly!

• While these shares are not equity but they can be converted into non listed illiquid equity allowing share holders to be full owners this is not just a revenue share.


Help us bring Cryptovest to the world!

To get updates about Cryptovests progress, invitations to our google hangout and notifications in advanced please send your email to info@cryptovestfs.com


If you have any questions at all please feel free to ask.
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Re: Introducing CVFS and our first step into NXT
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2015, 02:21:13 am »

Right after having a look around I noticed there are a few investment type fund listing on NXT.

So let me try and separate us from them a little bit.

We are focused on attracting people outside of the crypto community and getting them to invest with us their fee's make up our revenue.

We charge them a management fee and a performance fee.

Strategy.

Unlike most funds we do very little speculation our fund is a long term investment fund for people who want exposure at lower risk. That said we do hedge downside risk when we perceive a significant drop in prices but mostly we do not speculate on prices.

So as you can see our customers have a long term view they hold for a minimum period of 1-3 years that means a sustainable stream of income for us and for you!

We are also building open source software to help market makes complete transactions more efficiently.

There is a lot more including a 48 page document and a 13 page mini version found on our website.
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Re: Introducing CVFS and our first step into NXT
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2015, 01:31:56 pm »

Hi Little P 1,

Very well thought through, nicely presented! Welcome to NXT AE!

Appreciate the personal info in the prospectus (name, address and bank information is there, for anyone to check), can you please explain what is your current business form (sole trader, LTD?), and how do you comply with the UK rules for issuing securities?

A few more questions:

- where are you at this point in meeting the initial funding goals? Stage 1: 120 BTC?, Stage 2: 1100 BTC? (I understand this is across multiple funding sources)
- Please provide verification that you are indeed representing Cryptovest (the prospectus states N/A for NXT AE). Including the Asset ID in the prospectus would be enough for that.
- The company address is in a residential area in London...

Good luck with your asset!
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2015, 11:31:22 pm »

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Hi Little P 1,

Very well thought through, nicely presented! Welcome to NXT AE!

Appreciate the personal info in the prospectus (name, address and bank information is there, for anyone to check), can you please explain what is your current business form (sole trader, LTD?), and how do you comply with the UK rules for issuing securities?

Dear JanSako,

Yes we believe that being transparent  is the best way to run a business.

The company is a LTD and it is a holding company you can see a summary of the corporate structure here.

It is currently registered as dormant because we are fund raising and not officially trading yet.

In the UK there are clear rules for equities but what we are selling are not equities they are digital assets of the company they have no formal legal holding. Though we voluntarily allow them to be transferred into real equity which allows us to skirt the regulation on equities.  These are effectively convertible royalties ( convertible into equity)

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- where are you at this point in meeting the initial funding goals? Stage 1: 120 BTC?, Stage 2: 1100 BTC? (I understand this is across multiple funding sources)

Yes we are going all out and trying to raise from as many sources and platforms as possible if you know anything I have missed please let me know.

cryptovest.co.uk/investors-info.php has the results of our fundraising efforts

Round 1 : 16% complete (19.03/120 BTC)  
Round 2 : 580 BTC
Round 3 : 1200 BTC

Originally this was our target before we would be able to start paying dividends however we actually managed to obtain a few trail customers pre fundraise allowing us to pay a dividend now monthly.

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- Please provide verification that you are indeed representing Cryptovest (the prospectus states N/A for NXT AE). Including the Asset ID in the prospectus would be enough for that.

Forgive me creating the asset on NXT was only done recently I will update the document hopefully that will serve as proof. Also there are a few more pictures in the document now.

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- The company address is in a residential area in London...

The registered address  is my house if you ever come to the UK that is where you will find me. Though i meet new clients in Pall Mall here iod.com/ of which Cryptovest is a member.

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Good luck with your asset!

Thank you for the luck! Hopefully the NXT community helps support this project Asset Id:  3982465794986004670
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Re: Introducing CVFS and our first step into NXT
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2015, 04:52:39 am »

If you have any questions at all please feel free to ask.

*devil smiley*

Based on the clarification of ownership, as stated in a corporate structure, it seems your corporation retains the rights to all assets and profits generated by your operations. Yet you seem to have stated that we will be able to -- at any time -- convert non-voting non-paying shares (ex. class B) shares into voting, paying shares (ex. Class A)? Is this an official corporate bylaw? Or, what assurances do we have that these rights are immutable?


In the UK there are clear rules for equities but what we are selling are not equities they are digital assets of the company they have no formal legal holding. Though we voluntarily allow them to be transferred into real equity which allows us to skirt the regulation on equities.  These are effectively convertible royalties ( convertible into equity)

How are you classifying your listing wrt accounting? The way I've set mine up is we have a shareholder loan agreement, convertible up to a limit of 50 times. If I listed on the NXT AE I would call it an auction, and the remaining shares would have a buyout at the end of the auction. This is based on the NXT AE being a private investment club (wouldn't you agree?)

Round 1 : 16% complete (19.03/120 BTC)  

Ambitious but you seem to be doing well.

Good luck ~ :)

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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2015, 07:32:10 am »

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Based on the clarification of ownership, as stated in a corporate structure, it seems your corporation retains the rights to all assets and profits generated by your operations. Yet you seem to have stated that we will be able to -- at any time -- convert non-voting non-paying shares (ex. class B) shares into voting, paying shares (ex. Class A)? Is this an official corporate bylaw? Or, what assurances do we have that these rights are immutable?

We classify these assets as non equity digital convertible royalties that give CVFS the option to pay up to 15% of the company's profits to the holder and we are committed to allowing anyone who purchases a Cryptovest Asset to convert into the hold-co shares alongside similar terms to any VC/HNW investors that purchase shares in the traditional manner we have allocated 15% of the company's shares for this purpose and it will be made clear to any fiat investors coming on-board.

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How are you classifying your listing wrt accounting? The way I've set mine up is we have a shareholder loan agreement, convertible up to a limit of 50 times. If I listed on the NXT AE I would call it an auction, and the remaining shares would have a buyout at the end of the auction. This is based on the NXT AE being a private investment club (wouldn't you agree?)

Because of the type of business we will be operating, we have to have an external auditor so we will be forced to follow the general fund management account rules which are pretty strict dictated by our auditor.

What is "wrt accounting" I am unfamiliar with that acronym.

In terms of our fundraise we have a maximum amount of funds we can raise both in fiat and in crypto we will keep raising funds until we hit that target.

It is important to note that we will eventually move from investment club into investment fund so we need to prepare for that.


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Round 1 : 16% complete (19.03/120 BTC)   

Ambitious but you seem to be doing well. Quote
Update it is now Round 1 : 16.6% complete (19.96/120 BTC)   

I will do everything in power to make this venture work.

If you have any further questions please feel free to ask about CVFS Asset Id:  3982465794986004670

  :)
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Re: Introducing CVFS and our first step into NXT
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2015, 01:36:34 pm »

It is important to note that we will eventually move from investment club into investment fund so we need to prepare for that.

Ok I think I understand where you're coming from. We'd like to be in your investment club (for now :p ) :)
btw, "wrt accounting" means with-respect-to accounting. I meant, what did you tell your accountant these assets were :)

Update it is now Round 1 : 16.6% complete (19.96/120 BTC)   

I will do everything in power to make this venture work.

If you have any further questions please feel free to ask about CVFS Asset Id:  3982465794986004670

I'll probably place a small bid and start charting the returns and price movements.. I sent you a PM on whether you may wish to do a bigger deal, say 1 BTC worth/20k NXT or so to start. For us it's all about cashflow so we're willing to do a share deal.

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Re: Introducing CVFS and our first step into NXT
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2015, 09:14:01 pm »

Looks like nobody's buying this asset at the moment. Need more marketing probably?
It was hard to understand for me, not native english speaker, what you are actually planning to do.
Try to edit your post, less words, more information, add a beautiful picture with "money stream" or smth else, this attracts people ;D

Have you reached your goal for round 1?
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Re: Introducing CVFS and our first step into NXT
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2015, 10:48:13 pm »

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Looks like nobody's buying this asset at the moment. Need more marketing probably?
It was hard to understand for me, not native english speaker, what you are actually planning to do.
Try to edit your post, less words, more information, add a beautiful picture with "money stream" or smth else, this attracts people

Hi 13Darko,

We have sold more then i expected in NXT tbh and there are some orders left that have not been filled considering we only issued the asset a while ago.

They will also i think it will pick up substantially once we pay our first dividend which is paid every 30 days.

You are correct I will do my best to increase the clarity of our offering.

We are just finishing our marketing this post was just a quick hello i will create a controlled post later keeping your points in mind.

Thank you very much for your comments.

Kind Regards,

CVFS
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Re: Introducing CVFS and our first step into NXT
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2015, 10:53:46 pm »

It is important to note that we will eventually move from investment club into investment fund so we need to prepare for that.

Ok I think I understand where you're coming from. We'd like to be in your investment club (for now :p ) :)
btw, "wrt accounting" means with-respect-to accounting. I meant, what did you tell your accountant these assets were :)

Update it is now Round 1 : 16.6% complete (19.96/120 BTC)   

I will do everything in power to make this venture work.

If you have any further questions please feel free to ask about CVFS Asset Id:  3982465794986004670

I'll probably place a small bid and start charting the returns and price movements.. I sent you a PM on whether you may wish to do a bigger deal, say 1 BTC worth/20k NXT or so to start. For us it's all about cashflow so we're willing to do a share deal.

Dear Printshop,

Our accountant/auditor has worked with crypto based hedge funds before so they are familiar with them as assets. In terms of balance sheet our classification will depend on our jurisdiction.

Well our focus is sustainable cashflow I didn't think it would be possible until we raised the full first round funding but we have a few customers early who are providing some basic cashflow. Once the fundraise is complete I will focus again on building the number of customers up.

Kind Regards,

CVFS
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Re: Introducing CVFS and our first step into NXT
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2015, 10:58:54 pm »

Bought this asset, just for fun.
Palease, tell me, Lee has nothing to do with this, (but he would have chosen something like "Le Grande A 1", instead of "Little P 1"  :) ) as i would sell immediately, but to whom, no bid orders at the SAE, why ?  There´s some effort behind it, no ?
The plan just sounds good, so i´m hodling, I´m a believer . .  :)


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Re: Introducing CVFS and our first step into NXT
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2015, 11:02:04 am »

What happens if you don't raise 120 btc in round 1?

... however we actually managed to obtain a few trail customers pre fundraise allowing us to pay a dividend now monthly.

What's the date of the 1st dividend payment?
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Re: Introducing CVFS and our first step into NXT
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2015, 07:07:40 pm »

Dear Darko,

We will make our first payment on March the 8th so 30 days after issue and then monthly from then on out.

If we don't raise the full 120 our dividends will still not be at their higher level the more capital we have the more profit we can make check  this is also a key point where we believe the dividends will be more sustainable.

Check out the funding target section of our prospectus for more information.

We will raise the full amount just no guarantees on how long it will take.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Kind Regards,

CVFS

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Thank you for all the support so far we are makign progress and now have our first of two promo videos

We will be heavily promoting NXT to our customers.

Promo Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcv90_I68Mc

Kind Regards,

CVFS
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Thank you for all the support so far we are makign progress and now have our first of two promo videos

We will be heavily promoting NXT to our customers.

Promo Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcv90_I68Mc

Kind Regards,

CVFS
::)

In your promo video, you promote Litecoin, Namecoin and Peercoin an infinit times more than nxt...

so sad
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I know I know i was even tempted to put NXT in the description.

The problem is when this video was originally made i was not aware of NXT you will have to forgive me there will be another video and I will mentioned NXT.

As for promotion our customers can purchase assets in NXT as a chosen platform if they choose to  ::). We also did a talk on NXT during the last seminar.


Kind Regards,

CVFS
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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2015, 10:23:59 am »

Hello! Any news?
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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2015, 12:54:44 pm »

Dear Members,

We are ready to pay out the first dividend in the next few days however we will be creating a new asset all current owners will receive this new asset based on how much of CVFS they currently own on a 1:1 basis this is due to some issues we have had with a certain exchange.

If we can resolve it in the next few days dividends will be paid as normal otherwise we will issue the new asset by the end of the week and distribute dividends to you on the same day.

The amount of asset and dividends will not change an announcement will be made on dividend payment day.

We will be adding NXT to our brokerage site www.crypto4me.co.uk

For full updates please send your email to info@cryptovestfs.com

Kind Regards,

CVFS
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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2015, 05:37:46 pm »

Dear Members,

We are ready to pay out the first dividend in the next few days however we will be creating a new asset all current owners will receive this new asset based on how much of CVFS they currently own on a 1:1 basis this is due to some issues we have had with a certain exchange.

If we can resolve it in the next few days dividends will be paid as normal otherwise we will issue the new asset by the end of the week and distribute dividends to you on the same day.

The amount of asset and dividends will not change an announcement will be made on dividend payment day.

We will be adding NXT to our brokerage site www.crypto4me.co.uk

For full updates please send your email to info@cryptovestfs.com

Kind Regards,

CVFS

Can´t wait for the dividends. What?  New asset ? Ok, give me that instead !  Well, no, don´t bother   :)  :)

(People, don´t confuse CVFS with CVF on the AE, BIG difference ! ! )

The title: "lets give people their first step into NXT", is quite a slap in the face here, don´t you think ?
(bitcoinpauls welcome . . )


edit: ok, for those, who don´t know me, this post was ment as sarcasm, and i´m of the opinion, that CVFS is a scam . .  !


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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2015, 07:58:08 am »

On that note i need some help with the new ticker i was thinking CVFSD1  or CVFSD  (D for dividend)

Also we are giving people their first step into NXT because when they invest with us we automatically add NXT to their portfolio atm.

Kr,

CVFS
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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2015, 11:41:03 am »

I noticed people selling CVFS at 5 NXT per share

Also selling CVFS early during the IPO period really messed up the fund raise I will not make that mistake with the new asset.

Things to know

Our dividends are paid based on the amount raised So we we sell at 20 NXT and you are able to buy at 5 NXT your dividend is based on 20 NXT raised.

I know you feel like everything is a scam but we do pay dividends on other exchanges just getting a hang of NXT they dividends are coming.

Kr,

CVFS
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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2015, 03:01:02 pm »

So now, CVFS, you´re trying to sell 1000 shares at 10 Nxt, on the AE.
All the people, who bought at minimum 15 Nxt from you, will be really happy !  :)

(btw. "minimum" does not mean: "small mother" . .  :) )

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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2015, 03:53:41 pm »

There are a lot of people who bought at 25. I am sure with only promises of dividends and issuer trying to squeeze every penny here we know where it's coming...
Pay dividends first, remove those ridiculous sell orders, if people are interested your asset it will be bought at much higher price, but as of now it sure looks like another scam to me. No way you will sell those for even 1NXT
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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2015, 04:10:20 pm »

There are a lot of people who bought at 25. I am sure with only promises of dividends and issuer trying to squeeze every penny here we know where it's coming...
Pay dividends first, remove those ridiculous sell orders, if people are interested your asset it will be bought at much higher price, but as of now it sure looks like another scam to me. No way you will sell those for even 1NXT

Blatant scam ! Well, he´s probably just stretching the concept of "market making" . .  :)



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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2015, 06:48:15 pm »

Well first there is no need to issue another asset that issue with Bter has been resolved.  ;D

Second investors that purchased shares are selling at below my asking price.  :'(

Not allowing us to actually raise much NXT in the first place. This means to get NXT to CVFS i have to sell below their asks I have no choice since i can't lock the IPO.

If you have any solutions to this people let me know! I was thinking of paying dividends manually and excluding anyone who sells below our ask. 

That however does not stop us i have decided to just leave it for now.

As to it being a scam. Look say what you want we have been around for a while now and have a track record of performance. If you want to why don't you speak to me directly on skype or in person?
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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2015, 06:55:52 pm »

Also since we resolved our asset issue the first dividend will be paid on the 21st of March.

Please join our google hangouts page or drop me your email at info@cryptovestfs.com for more frequent updates.

A note on the share price. We pay dividends based on the total value of shares sold at the sale price so it works out as a weighted average across the price sold.

Thank you for your support its not easy building a business from the bottom up.  ::) For those who still think this is a scam... well I am a Nigerian prince... however we have a history of paying dividends and this will not stop. Now off to rugby training! Have a great day everyone and thank you for supporting CVFS.
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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2015, 08:18:54 pm »

Well first there is no need to issue another asset that issue with Bter has been resolved.  ;D

Second investors that purchased shares are selling at below my asking price.  :'(

Not allowing us to actually raise much NXT in the first place. This means to get NXT to CVFS i have to sell below their asks I have no choice since i can't lock the IPO.
::)  :o
If you have any solutions to this people let me know! I was thinking of paying dividends manually and excluding anyone who sells below our ask. 
I got one... buy everything under your sell wall with the nxt you already raised, that should give you your first proven profit, and keep your sell wall at the initial price, or higher, since you do not want to punish earlier investors, but rather reward them. On top of that put a buy wall priced about 5% under your sell wall able to immediatly refund the biggest shareholder. That ought to bring back some of the thrust you have just completely crushed.
That however does not stop us i have decided to just leave it for now.

As to it being a scam. Look say what you want we have been around for a while now and have a track record of performance. If you want to why don't you speak to me directly on skype or in person?
people are allowed to be social and to talk in public so everyone gets the same share of info about the asset.
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« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2015, 09:20:28 pm »

You know what I have to put my hand up. I was used to selling into IPOs that were not freely exchangeable. So this was really just my lack of experience transacting smart assets you live and learn. The problem was that i increased the sale price too quickly that was all.

Just so spoilt by having total control on other exchanges.

I am just happy i got the asset sorted so now i can pay dividends freely

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I got one... buy everything under your sell wall with the nxt you already raised, that should give you your first proven profit, and keep your sell wall at the initial price, or higher, since you do not want to punish earlier investors, but rather reward them. On top of that put a buy wall priced about 5% under your sell wall able to immediatly refund the biggest shareholder. That ought to bring back some of the thrust you have just completely crushed.

Thanks for the suggestion I partly like the idea of buying shares to make a quick profit however we make total use of all the funds raised at the moment it is a start up so all the capital we raised is used productively to run the business. I certainly will put bids down later on however that is not how we want to make profit. Our aim is to profit from business activity.

I think early investors that purchased at 15 and then sold strait after at 20 disrupting our issue have had reward enough in that regards since they were able to sell for a 33% profit immediately.

We will eventually create a bid wall as our business grows our customers have to purchase smart assets to add to their portfolio currently they can choose from NXT or other exchanges we use. So the more customers we get the more asks we will see.

Thanks for the suggestion though.

I will target a sale price of 15 -25 NXT untill all assets are sold.

Kind Regards,

CVFS
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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2015, 09:57:57 pm »

I think early investors that purchased at 15 and then sold strait after at 20 disrupting our issue have had reward enough in that regards since they were able to sell for a 33% profit immediately.
Please stop saying that. There were only one person who bought at 15 and sold 100assets at 20 for a whooping 500NXT profit. And one more who made 800NXT. Is that your excuse to constantly lowering sell wall? Guess what, the longer there are no dividends and no buy wall by you the lower sell price will go. The risk is just to high. Today you selling at 10, averaging dividends with 25, tomorrow someone decides to sell at 5, you'll go for 4NXT? How about guys who entered at 25? They'll get 5 times less dividends for trusting you in a first place? You see, to me at least you acting somehow immature, how can I invest in this? Why would I?
Anyway, the amount of the dividends per asset (and when they are payed of cause) will be the tripping point here.
I will target a sale price of 15 -25 NXT untill all assets are sold.
Wizard is right, these problems were solved long ago here, ask printshop, look at what phoenix is doing... You need to stop selling lower then 15 and place buy wall at 14.9
You must give investors exit way at anytime, not just trying to grab whatever penny you can. This will lead you nowhere.
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« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2015, 10:01:50 pm »

Also we are giving people their first step into NXT because when they invest with us we automatically add NXT to their portfolio atm.
I partly like the idea of buying shares to make a quick profit however we make total use of all the funds raised at the moment it is a start up so all the capital we raised is used productively to run the business.
::) So, you invest the raised funds partly in nxt, but since it is all spent on "wages", there are no costumer funds to begin with?
If not, could we get a detailed view over how much funds have been raised, and where they are invested now?


I certainly will put bids down later on however that is not how we want to make profit. Our aim is to profit from business activity.
It is your business activity to promote market stability as you said yourself.

3. Promote market stability by expanding our services and improving the crypto market infrastructure by providing free open source software to the community.
if you can't even keep the price of your fund stable, what in the heck would you be able to keep the price of BTC, NXT or other cryptos more stable.

I think early investors that purchased at 15 and then sold strait after at 20 disrupting our issue have had reward enough in that regards since they were able to sell for a 33% profit immediately.
Whose mistake is that?
1. Provide realistic, sustainable and stable long term returns for their shareholders.

We will eventually create a bid wall as our business grows our customers have to purchase smart assets to add to their portfolio currently they can choose from NXT or other exchanges we use. So the more customers we get the more asks we will see.
You shouldn't do it eventually, cause there wont be an eventually for CVFS if you don't, you should have done it weeks ago!

I will target a sale price of 15 -25 NXT untill all assets are sold.
Like that will ever happen...
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« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2015, 11:53:12 am »

I was the one who bought 1,000 shares at 25 NXT each. After that the issuer began to sell them at 15 NXT. So I lost 10,000 NXT... now 10 NXT/share, so my losses is already 15,000 NXT.

How much dividend do I need to get to cover my losses at least?
And is it actually fair that those guys who buy shares now at 10 NXT and sell them after at 15 NXT/share will get profit while I'll still suffer big losses?
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« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2015, 07:03:42 pm »

Wow so much hate so soon. Well i only sold a small amount at 10 NXT per share and in comparison to the total amount of assets currently available. It was just to test since as mentioned to actually get the funds we need the lowest ask but after that batch is sold it will be left to its own devices.

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I was the one who bought 1,000 shares at 25 NXT each. After that the issuer began to sell them at 15 NXT. So I lost 10,000 NXT

First you have not lost anything unless you sell your assets for less then you purchased them.

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So, you invest the raised funds partly in nxt, but since it is all spent on "wages", there are no costumer funds to begin with?
If not, could we get a detailed view over how much funds have been raised, and where they are invested now?

That information will actually be made available on our website over the next few days however it is intended for new customers not smart asset investors per say. You can see our progress in terms of fund raising on the results page http://www.cryptovest.co.uk/investors-info.php

You funds are spent according to our prospectus document...give it a read http://www.cryptovest.co.uk/prospectus.php  It's important to note that this project is almost entirely self funded by myself.   The pass and user name can be found in my first post.

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It is your business activity to promote market stability as you said yourself.

I did say it was a good idea we will slowly build an bid wall for you to cash out it will however build naturally as we build up our customer base.

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if you can't even keep the price of your fund stable, what in the heck would you be able to keep the price of BTC, NXT or other cryptos more stable.

Actually we need the volatility the price of our fund is just the value of all the assets under management and until we sell all shares this is going to be variable.

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You shouldn't do it eventually, cause there wont be an eventually for CVFS if you don't, you should have done it weeks ago!
Our business model is not suited to short term investors in all honesty our focus is long term rather then focusing on the first 2 months of one listing.

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I will target a sale price of 15 -25 NXT untill all assets are sold.
  :) you may be right but we won't stop untill we sell them all if not to crypto currency investors then to fiat investors in fact our entire business model is build on fiat investors buying up our crypto shares.  Anyone investing now is a pre pre investors to that.

If you have any other comments or questions please don't hesitate to share or ask.

Kind Regards,

CVFS

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« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2015, 07:49:19 pm »

I hope for you that you have other venues of promoting your asset than this thread though.
It will depend on that I guess.

Thanks for the last professional answer (besides the hate comment  :D ) and good luck with your asset.

Kind Regards
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« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2015, 08:22:34 am »

You are quite right.

I would be happy to hear if you had any ideas on the marketing side of things. In fact we only started paying dividends this early because we hoped it would get people interested in investing. Also thanks for the support.

Kind Regards,

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I have cleared up the orders we will be selling at a price of 25 NXT per CVFS share.

If you have purchased below that price don't hesitate to sell under our asking price or directly to the bids available.

Thank you everyone for your patience and another added treat :) its time for our first dividend today!

A note on liquidity

In April there will be a vote which you can take part in that decides how we tilt our investors portfolio and what smart CVFS assets they gain exposure to. This is important since it adds directly liquidity to a set exchange or multiple. Everyone gets one vote regardless of their investment size but to vote you have to be registered here https://www.loomio.org/g/Kmguq70C/cryptovest

It is also an opportunity for our members to vote on the alt coin exposure we have.

If you have not already please join out google hangouts group by sending your email to info@cryptovestfs.com



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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2015, 12:13:45 am »

I am posting to provide CVFS some back up.  I do not have much of a reputation on the forum, but I purchased shares in CVFS a couple months ago.  I have gotten to know Malcolm over the last couple months because he is very open with his shareholders and created a Google Hangout where everyone was invited to to communicate.  Malcolm is running and trying to build a legitimate business.  He is extremely professional, one of the most professional I have encountered on the crypto asset scene. 

Keep in mind this is a start up like many other crypto assets, so there are going to be growing pains and course corrections.  It is very difficult to gain traction on the NXT Asset Exchange for people who have not been vocal NXT users on this forum, so that makes moving forward on the exchange much more difficult.  I encourage anyone thinking about buying shares to purchase a small quantity and join his Google Hangout session.  Many of us talk daily about current events, crypto-everything, and what ever random things pop in our head.  It is a great way to see in to Malcolm's operation and have a personal impact by helping with his decision making.

I think Malcolm is going to build a great business and am on board for the ride.  I encourage others to take a test ride.
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« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2015, 09:11:02 pm »

Hey there! Did anyone here receive his dividends?
If so I would like to have a dividend payment account number.
I asked Little P 1 via PM to do that, but was ignored, though I must admit he answered my other questions.

He is extremely professional, one of the most professional I have encountered on the crypto asset scene.
Extremely professional you say, huh?..
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« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2015, 09:33:21 pm »

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« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2015, 05:30:41 pm »

I did post saying i had some issues paying out a dividend and I did reply to your message saying that i would try to make the dividend payment again.

I hope you can be patient and wait for the first payment to get through successfully.

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Dear Darko,

Thanks for letting me know it says the dividend amount on the 21st  was 0 so let me try again.

"21/03/2015 03:02:06   Dividend Payment      0   1   Asset Exchange"

Kind Regards,

CVFS
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« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2015, 06:55:57 pm »

I did post saying i had some issues paying out a dividend and I did reply to your message saying that i would try to make the dividend payment again.

I hope you can be patient and wait for the first payment to get through successfully.

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Dear Darko,

Thanks for letting me know it says the dividend amount on the 21st  was 0 so let me try again.

"21/03/2015 03:02:06   Dividend Payment      0   1   Asset Exchange"

Kind Regards,

CVFS

Right, but that was on 23rd of March and two days (even 15 days) after the supposed date of first dividends payment (at first it was 8th of March). 7 days just passed in silence till today after that "let me try again".
So specify next time how much it will take you, ok?

Kind regards.
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« Reply #40 on: March 31, 2015, 02:43:40 am »

We will make our first payment on March the 8th so 30 days after issue and then monthly from then on out.

Remember Chris? He never said which year, so...
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« Reply #41 on: March 31, 2015, 03:22:47 pm »

Dear Tom,

That actually made me smile. ;D

I attempted to make a dividend payment today.

Any clues on what the height means ?

details

ype:   Dividend Payment
Asset Name:   CVFS
Amount Per Share:   0.35 NXFull Hash:   e9ace3245b188b965994c34311d5856b8c0256be6708c72337909366e19a9cad
Signature Hash:   8d1f756d1511f68e7070c730a409642855a4b70668f454dbfabcd847bd7c2cb0
Amount NQT:   0 NXT
ec_block_height:   392817
Type:   2
Fee NQT:   1 NXT
Version:   1
Sender:   You
Timestamp:   42520754
ec_block_id:   14047433694245950651
Height:   unknown
Subtype:   6
Sender Public Key:   33fed31ec0f72b7d88ab33c42af6c19613f310ad16071d8cc28ae2896f230e41
Deadline:   1440
Sender RS:   You
signature:   3ef2698bc500ab7583d92683335f5d710129a2a8384e2bcaa0bc15e0a4f61100b12f1431e9529bf11015819d5c1aa4eb8af9e5bc918f9493fea2c8bb95ad132d
Confirmations:   /
Block:   unconfirmedT
Height:   392821
Sender:   You

shows up on exchange as 10847790907191962857   /   31/03/2015 16:19:14   Dividend Payment      0   1   Asset Exchange   106

This is what happened on the 21st have i done something wrong?

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« Reply #42 on: March 31, 2015, 06:33:30 pm »

Not an expert here. But you can try the latest SuperNET release. It's core coin is NXT, so it has all of the official wallet functionalities plus SuperNET plugins including Dividends+ module, which is used by most of the asset issuers for paying dividends as far as I know. You can find them by switching to an Advanced mode.
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Dear 13Darko,

Thanks alot i actually paid two dividends this month.

So if you have shares and your wallet increased now you know why.

Kr,

CVFS
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Dear 13Darko,

Thanks alot i actually paid two dividends this month.

So if you have shares and your wallet increased now you know why.

Kr,

CVFS

Unfortunately no, I still haven't. Check blockexplorer.
Last tr. went through was my Bid order on 2015-03-10 at 23:36:35.
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Dear 13Darko,

Thanks alot i actually paid two dividends this month.

So if you have shares and your wallet increased now you know why.

Kr,

CVFS

Unfortunately no, I still haven't. Check blockexplorer.
Last tr. went through was my Bid order on 2015-03-10 at 23:36:35.
Please check the discussion about invisible dividends here:

https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=7448.msg171448#msg171448

Looks like CVFS payed dividends twice.
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Dear 13Darko,

Thanks alot i actually paid two dividends this month.

So if you have shares and your wallet increased now you know why.

Kr,

CVFS

Unfortunately no, I still haven't. Check blockexplorer.
Last tr. went through was my Bid order on 2015-03-10 at 23:36:35.
Please check the discussion about invisible dividends here:

https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=7448.msg171448#msg171448

Looks like CVFS payed dividends twice.

Looks like you are right. I cannot confirm that I really received anything due to I cannot remember my balance before these Txs made :) Will write it down somewhere, so I can check it next time.

Sorry, CVFS, for wrong accusations. I really got used to see any funds income through the transactions information, and I face these ghost Txs for the first time.
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No problem,

It's good that you were paying attention and i am grateful you even gave us a chance and invested.

Be sure to subscribe for our updates ok http://www.cryptovest.co.uk/contact-us.php

And let me know if you leanr anything else i am still new to NXT

Kr,

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Please register with https://www.loomio.org/g/Kmguq70C/cryptovest

To take part in the up coming vote on portfolio allocation.

You must be able to prove you own assets in CVFS
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Hey, Little P 1!

Any news? It's been too quiet here for some time.
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Hey there yes

OK Follow up update on CVFS

You should have received our email update + an audio file that goes into more detail.

Summary

Dividends reduced until fundraiser complete

More shares available for purchase on Cryptostocks

Coinsoritum shareholders plz check email

Overall we are making good progress!


If you want to receive daily/monthly updates please send your email to info@phoenixinvestor.co.uk
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Adding a bid,

Hey there I will be adding a bid support for the stock for you to sell out into.

Also another dividend will be paid at the end of the month.

Kr,

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Closing note a big thank you!

All validated investors are now able to receive a minimum return of 345%  onto of their initial investment value in line with the offering of 3.5% pm as advertised. If you missed the cut off date to register your holdings after the closure of the exchanges CVFS was listed on or registered anonymously so didn't receive any emails please dm me or email me about your holdings.

Please note you must know exactly how many  tokens you held if you where an anonymous investor as they will be checked against our records.
 
Thank you everyone who supported us on this long journey and though we failed to raise and got hacked twice out of the ashes we still produced a sustainable business.  I'm proud to say that we continued to work to the point where we can return and investment to our investors with our heads held high.

IF YOU HAVE NOT PLEASE dm me your email for an audio update and explanation on how to receive your funds for NXT investors we will be posting a bid price and holding this on the asset exchange allowing you all to cashout this will be based on values at the time of investment so the bid will be lower then the current ask but liquid enough for you to cash out with a profit. For additional bonuses you must be registered on our platform to do that we need your email so please dm me this and ill send your more details.

From the bottom of my heart thank you for all the encouragement, feedback and help these past 3 years!
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