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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2015, 11:41:03 am »

I noticed people selling CVFS at 5 NXT per share

Also selling CVFS early during the IPO period really messed up the fund raise I will not make that mistake with the new asset.

Things to know

Our dividends are paid based on the amount raised So we we sell at 20 NXT and you are able to buy at 5 NXT your dividend is based on 20 NXT raised.

I know you feel like everything is a scam but we do pay dividends on other exchanges just getting a hang of NXT they dividends are coming.

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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2015, 03:01:02 pm »

So now, CVFS, you´re trying to sell 1000 shares at 10 Nxt, on the AE.
All the people, who bought at minimum 15 Nxt from you, will be really happy !  :)

(btw. "minimum" does not mean: "small mother" . .  :) )

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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2015, 03:53:41 pm »

There are a lot of people who bought at 25. I am sure with only promises of dividends and issuer trying to squeeze every penny here we know where it's coming...
Pay dividends first, remove those ridiculous sell orders, if people are interested your asset it will be bought at much higher price, but as of now it sure looks like another scam to me. No way you will sell those for even 1NXT
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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2015, 04:10:20 pm »

There are a lot of people who bought at 25. I am sure with only promises of dividends and issuer trying to squeeze every penny here we know where it's coming...
Pay dividends first, remove those ridiculous sell orders, if people are interested your asset it will be bought at much higher price, but as of now it sure looks like another scam to me. No way you will sell those for even 1NXT

Blatant scam ! Well, he´s probably just stretching the concept of "market making" . .  :)



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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2015, 06:48:15 pm »

Well first there is no need to issue another asset that issue with Bter has been resolved.  ;D

Second investors that purchased shares are selling at below my asking price.  :'(

Not allowing us to actually raise much NXT in the first place. This means to get NXT to CVFS i have to sell below their asks I have no choice since i can't lock the IPO.

If you have any solutions to this people let me know! I was thinking of paying dividends manually and excluding anyone who sells below our ask. 

That however does not stop us i have decided to just leave it for now.

As to it being a scam. Look say what you want we have been around for a while now and have a track record of performance. If you want to why don't you speak to me directly on skype or in person?
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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2015, 06:55:52 pm »

Also since we resolved our asset issue the first dividend will be paid on the 21st of March.

Please join our google hangouts page or drop me your email at info@cryptovestfs.com for more frequent updates.

A note on the share price. We pay dividends based on the total value of shares sold at the sale price so it works out as a weighted average across the price sold.

Thank you for your support its not easy building a business from the bottom up.  ::) For those who still think this is a scam... well I am a Nigerian prince... however we have a history of paying dividends and this will not stop. Now off to rugby training! Have a great day everyone and thank you for supporting CVFS.
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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2015, 08:18:54 pm »

Well first there is no need to issue another asset that issue with Bter has been resolved.  ;D

Second investors that purchased shares are selling at below my asking price.  :'(

Not allowing us to actually raise much NXT in the first place. This means to get NXT to CVFS i have to sell below their asks I have no choice since i can't lock the IPO.
::)  :o
If you have any solutions to this people let me know! I was thinking of paying dividends manually and excluding anyone who sells below our ask. 
I got one... buy everything under your sell wall with the nxt you already raised, that should give you your first proven profit, and keep your sell wall at the initial price, or higher, since you do not want to punish earlier investors, but rather reward them. On top of that put a buy wall priced about 5% under your sell wall able to immediatly refund the biggest shareholder. That ought to bring back some of the thrust you have just completely crushed.
That however does not stop us i have decided to just leave it for now.

As to it being a scam. Look say what you want we have been around for a while now and have a track record of performance. If you want to why don't you speak to me directly on skype or in person?
people are allowed to be social and to talk in public so everyone gets the same share of info about the asset.
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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2015, 09:20:28 pm »

You know what I have to put my hand up. I was used to selling into IPOs that were not freely exchangeable. So this was really just my lack of experience transacting smart assets you live and learn. The problem was that i increased the sale price too quickly that was all.

Just so spoilt by having total control on other exchanges.

I am just happy i got the asset sorted so now i can pay dividends freely

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I got one... buy everything under your sell wall with the nxt you already raised, that should give you your first proven profit, and keep your sell wall at the initial price, or higher, since you do not want to punish earlier investors, but rather reward them. On top of that put a buy wall priced about 5% under your sell wall able to immediatly refund the biggest shareholder. That ought to bring back some of the thrust you have just completely crushed.

Thanks for the suggestion I partly like the idea of buying shares to make a quick profit however we make total use of all the funds raised at the moment it is a start up so all the capital we raised is used productively to run the business. I certainly will put bids down later on however that is not how we want to make profit. Our aim is to profit from business activity.

I think early investors that purchased at 15 and then sold strait after at 20 disrupting our issue have had reward enough in that regards since they were able to sell for a 33% profit immediately.

We will eventually create a bid wall as our business grows our customers have to purchase smart assets to add to their portfolio currently they can choose from NXT or other exchanges we use. So the more customers we get the more asks we will see.

Thanks for the suggestion though.

I will target a sale price of 15 -25 NXT untill all assets are sold.

Kind Regards,

CVFS
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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2015, 09:57:57 pm »

I think early investors that purchased at 15 and then sold strait after at 20 disrupting our issue have had reward enough in that regards since they were able to sell for a 33% profit immediately.
Please stop saying that. There were only one person who bought at 15 and sold 100assets at 20 for a whooping 500NXT profit. And one more who made 800NXT. Is that your excuse to constantly lowering sell wall? Guess what, the longer there are no dividends and no buy wall by you the lower sell price will go. The risk is just to high. Today you selling at 10, averaging dividends with 25, tomorrow someone decides to sell at 5, you'll go for 4NXT? How about guys who entered at 25? They'll get 5 times less dividends for trusting you in a first place? You see, to me at least you acting somehow immature, how can I invest in this? Why would I?
Anyway, the amount of the dividends per asset (and when they are payed of cause) will be the tripping point here.
I will target a sale price of 15 -25 NXT untill all assets are sold.
Wizard is right, these problems were solved long ago here, ask printshop, look at what phoenix is doing... You need to stop selling lower then 15 and place buy wall at 14.9
You must give investors exit way at anytime, not just trying to grab whatever penny you can. This will lead you nowhere.
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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2015, 10:01:50 pm »

Also we are giving people their first step into NXT because when they invest with us we automatically add NXT to their portfolio atm.
I partly like the idea of buying shares to make a quick profit however we make total use of all the funds raised at the moment it is a start up so all the capital we raised is used productively to run the business.
::) So, you invest the raised funds partly in nxt, but since it is all spent on "wages", there are no costumer funds to begin with?
If not, could we get a detailed view over how much funds have been raised, and where they are invested now?


I certainly will put bids down later on however that is not how we want to make profit. Our aim is to profit from business activity.
It is your business activity to promote market stability as you said yourself.

3. Promote market stability by expanding our services and improving the crypto market infrastructure by providing free open source software to the community.
if you can't even keep the price of your fund stable, what in the heck would you be able to keep the price of BTC, NXT or other cryptos more stable.

I think early investors that purchased at 15 and then sold strait after at 20 disrupting our issue have had reward enough in that regards since they were able to sell for a 33% profit immediately.
Whose mistake is that?
1. Provide realistic, sustainable and stable long term returns for their shareholders.

We will eventually create a bid wall as our business grows our customers have to purchase smart assets to add to their portfolio currently they can choose from NXT or other exchanges we use. So the more customers we get the more asks we will see.
You shouldn't do it eventually, cause there wont be an eventually for CVFS if you don't, you should have done it weeks ago!

I will target a sale price of 15 -25 NXT untill all assets are sold.
Like that will ever happen...
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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2015, 11:53:12 am »

I was the one who bought 1,000 shares at 25 NXT each. After that the issuer began to sell them at 15 NXT. So I lost 10,000 NXT... now 10 NXT/share, so my losses is already 15,000 NXT.

How much dividend do I need to get to cover my losses at least?
And is it actually fair that those guys who buy shares now at 10 NXT and sell them after at 15 NXT/share will get profit while I'll still suffer big losses?
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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2015, 07:03:42 pm »

Wow so much hate so soon. Well i only sold a small amount at 10 NXT per share and in comparison to the total amount of assets currently available. It was just to test since as mentioned to actually get the funds we need the lowest ask but after that batch is sold it will be left to its own devices.

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I was the one who bought 1,000 shares at 25 NXT each. After that the issuer began to sell them at 15 NXT. So I lost 10,000 NXT

First you have not lost anything unless you sell your assets for less then you purchased them.

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So, you invest the raised funds partly in nxt, but since it is all spent on "wages", there are no costumer funds to begin with?
If not, could we get a detailed view over how much funds have been raised, and where they are invested now?

That information will actually be made available on our website over the next few days however it is intended for new customers not smart asset investors per say. You can see our progress in terms of fund raising on the results page http://www.cryptovest.co.uk/investors-info.php

You funds are spent according to our prospectus document...give it a read http://www.cryptovest.co.uk/prospectus.php  It's important to note that this project is almost entirely self funded by myself.   The pass and user name can be found in my first post.

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It is your business activity to promote market stability as you said yourself.

I did say it was a good idea we will slowly build an bid wall for you to cash out it will however build naturally as we build up our customer base.

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if you can't even keep the price of your fund stable, what in the heck would you be able to keep the price of BTC, NXT or other cryptos more stable.

Actually we need the volatility the price of our fund is just the value of all the assets under management and until we sell all shares this is going to be variable.

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You shouldn't do it eventually, cause there wont be an eventually for CVFS if you don't, you should have done it weeks ago!
Our business model is not suited to short term investors in all honesty our focus is long term rather then focusing on the first 2 months of one listing.

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I will target a sale price of 15 -25 NXT untill all assets are sold.
  :) you may be right but we won't stop untill we sell them all if not to crypto currency investors then to fiat investors in fact our entire business model is build on fiat investors buying up our crypto shares.  Anyone investing now is a pre pre investors to that.

If you have any other comments or questions please don't hesitate to share or ask.

Kind Regards,

CVFS

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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2015, 07:49:19 pm »

I hope for you that you have other venues of promoting your asset than this thread though.
It will depend on that I guess.

Thanks for the last professional answer (besides the hate comment  :D ) and good luck with your asset.

Kind Regards
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« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2015, 08:22:34 am »

You are quite right.

I would be happy to hear if you had any ideas on the marketing side of things. In fact we only started paying dividends this early because we hoped it would get people interested in investing. Also thanks for the support.

Kind Regards,

CVFS
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I have cleared up the orders we will be selling at a price of 25 NXT per CVFS share.

If you have purchased below that price don't hesitate to sell under our asking price or directly to the bids available.

Thank you everyone for your patience and another added treat :) its time for our first dividend today!

A note on liquidity

In April there will be a vote which you can take part in that decides how we tilt our investors portfolio and what smart CVFS assets they gain exposure to. This is important since it adds directly liquidity to a set exchange or multiple. Everyone gets one vote regardless of their investment size but to vote you have to be registered here https://www.loomio.org/g/Kmguq70C/cryptovest

It is also an opportunity for our members to vote on the alt coin exposure we have.

If you have not already please join out google hangouts group by sending your email to info@cryptovestfs.com



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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2015, 12:13:45 am »

I am posting to provide CVFS some back up.  I do not have much of a reputation on the forum, but I purchased shares in CVFS a couple months ago.  I have gotten to know Malcolm over the last couple months because he is very open with his shareholders and created a Google Hangout where everyone was invited to to communicate.  Malcolm is running and trying to build a legitimate business.  He is extremely professional, one of the most professional I have encountered on the crypto asset scene. 

Keep in mind this is a start up like many other crypto assets, so there are going to be growing pains and course corrections.  It is very difficult to gain traction on the NXT Asset Exchange for people who have not been vocal NXT users on this forum, so that makes moving forward on the exchange much more difficult.  I encourage anyone thinking about buying shares to purchase a small quantity and join his Google Hangout session.  Many of us talk daily about current events, crypto-everything, and what ever random things pop in our head.  It is a great way to see in to Malcolm's operation and have a personal impact by helping with his decision making.

I think Malcolm is going to build a great business and am on board for the ride.  I encourage others to take a test ride.
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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2015, 09:11:02 pm »

Hey there! Did anyone here receive his dividends?
If so I would like to have a dividend payment account number.
I asked Little P 1 via PM to do that, but was ignored, though I must admit he answered my other questions.

He is extremely professional, one of the most professional I have encountered on the crypto asset scene.
Extremely professional you say, huh?..
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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2015, 09:33:21 pm »

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Re: CVFS IPO lets give people their first step into NXT (Updates)
« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2015, 05:30:41 pm »

I did post saying i had some issues paying out a dividend and I did reply to your message saying that i would try to make the dividend payment again.

I hope you can be patient and wait for the first payment to get through successfully.

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Dear Darko,

Thanks for letting me know it says the dividend amount on the 21st  was 0 so let me try again.

"21/03/2015 03:02:06   Dividend Payment      0   1   Asset Exchange"

Kind Regards,

CVFS
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« Reply #39 on: March 30, 2015, 06:55:57 pm »

I did post saying i had some issues paying out a dividend and I did reply to your message saying that i would try to make the dividend payment again.

I hope you can be patient and wait for the first payment to get through successfully.

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Dear Darko,

Thanks for letting me know it says the dividend amount on the 21st  was 0 so let me try again.

"21/03/2015 03:02:06   Dividend Payment      0   1   Asset Exchange"

Kind Regards,

CVFS

Right, but that was on 23rd of March and two days (even 15 days) after the supposed date of first dividends payment (at first it was 8th of March). 7 days just passed in silence till today after that "let me try again".
So specify next time how much it will take you, ok?

Kind regards.
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