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« on: April 25, 2014, 09:27:31 pm »

If you have any questions or are unsure, create a thread >>>> https://nxtforum.org/asset-exchange-62/ <<<< before you buy   ;D
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Re: ASSET EXCHANGE IPOs - Launch Day Listings!
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2014, 11:35:10 pm »

I've threatened to do this for a long time, so I think that it's about time for me to launch EvilCoin on an unsuspecting world ....mwahahaha !

(and don't ask whats its for..............its a secret)
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Re: ASSET EXCHANGE IPOs - Launch Day Listings!
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2014, 11:54:33 pm »

DotsforBits are indeed.

I don't think Lith is going to, Bas mentioned something about IPO not being the way they decided to go.
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Re: ASSET EXCHANGE IPOs - Launch Day Listings!
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2014, 02:07:32 am »

InstantDEX will be issued and distributed on launch day, however there will be no official or unofficial IPO. There never was a public investment window to make sure that we avoid any regulatory issues. That being said I cannot control what people do with the InstantDEX they have. I expect that some people might put some up for sale on the AE, especially if there are bids. The only price point for InstantDEX to date is 7.5 NXT per InstantDEX asset.

There will be 1,000,000 InstantDEX issued.
jl777 30%
wesleyh 30%
aldrin 20%
consultants and advisors 9% (Come-from-Beyond, AdamLevine, fanaticalfishing, chanc3r, joefox, NXTminnow, allwelder)
InstantDEX working capital 11%

InstantDEX will generate revenues by charging 0.1% to 0.2% of transactions. If it is 0.2% to each side of the trade, that is a total of 0.4% of all trade volume. If InstantDEX is able to sustain a daily trade volume of 250 BTC -> 1 BTC/day of revenues.

InstantDEX will launch by supporting trading in multigateway assets, but it is asset agnostic and can be used for trading any NXT asset. Due to the tech not being completed yet, there is no launch date for InstantDEX. The main tech components are a UDP hole punching peer to peer comm system that enables not only realtime trade matching, but off blockchain nearly atomic trade settlements. Due to the differences in bitcoind forks (NXTsubatomic) and NXT transactions (NXTatomic), it is not clear yet if there is a way to directly connect the two types of trades. In that event multigateway services might be required. Also due to transaction malleability issues, it is not clear how many confirmations will be needed to be able to safely finalize trades.

InstantDEX will let people change their bid/ask without fees and only charge when a trade happens. The goal of InstantDEX is to provide a fully decentralized peer-to-peer realtime trustless trading environment. There is no guarantee that this ideal goal will be 100% achieved, but I will continue to innovate and improve the tech to get as close as possible. I believe that it is important to provide the market what the market wants, instead of forcing something against what the market wants. To that end, InstantDEX will allow for trading of any NXT asset, NXT, bitcoind crypto against each other. I will also test market using ripple IOU's for USD and CNY to see if such a proxy of a proxy will be acceptable for traders. If it is, then it will be fully integrated into InstantDEX

Wesleyh will work hard to make InstantDEX as easy to use as possible. Since we wont have large server expenses no matter how many active traders there are, our overhead will be the lowest in the industry. This will allow InstantDEX to have lower fees initially to gain marketshare. Exact specifics on fees are subject to change, with reasonable notice given to the customers.

It is expected that half the revenues will be distributed to InstantDEX holders, but probably not until there is an easy to use dividend mechanism. Exact distribution amounts and timing are subject to change. InstantDEX currently has over 1.5 million NXT 4383817337783094122 and I do not expect that we will need any additional capital to fund continued operations.

NXTsubatomic and NXTatomic will be part of InstantDEX. I believe both have no fundamental security issues, but due to the cutting edge nature of their implementation, it is possible for there to be incidents. We will of course do our best to avoid any such incidents, just a risk factor to keep in mind. Also, in the event that I or anybody else solves the BTC <-> NXT direct atomic exchange, I will of course integrate that tech into InstantDEX.

I cant make any promises about availability of InstantDEX, but if people posted their interest, that could help some of the holders to decide to put some up for sale.

The following threads have info on the progress of the tech:
https://nxtforum.org/multigateway-jl777/nxtsubatomic-atomic-crosschain-exchange/ and https://nxtforum.org/multigateway-jl777/secret-project/

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Re: ASSET EXCHANGE IPOs - Launch Day Listings!
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2014, 02:12:44 am »

I would be interested to get some.

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Re: ASSET EXCHANGE IPOs - Launch Day Listings!
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2014, 07:04:14 am »


yeh. me too.

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Re: ASSET EXCHANGE IPOs - Launch Day Listings!
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2014, 07:25:18 am »

InstantDEX will be issued and distributed on launch day, however there will be no official or unofficial IPO. There never was a public investment window to make sure that we avoid any regulatory issues. That being said I cannot control what people do with the InstantDEX they have. I expect that some people might put some up for sale on the AE, especially if there are bids. The only price point for InstantDEX to date is 7.5 NXT per InstantDEX asset.

There will be 1,000,000 InstantDEX issued.
jl777 30%
wesleyh 30%
aldrin 20%
consultants and advisors 9% (Come-from-Beyond, AdamLevine, fanaticalfishing, chanc3r, joefox, NXTminnow, allwelder)
InstantDEX working capital 11%

InstantDEX will generate revenues by charging 0.1% to 0.2% of transactions. If it is 0.2% to each side of the trade, that is a total of 0.4% of all trade volume. If InstantDEX is able to sustain a daily trade volume of 250 BTC -> 1 BTC/day of revenues.

InstantDEX will launch by supporting trading in multigateway assets, but it is asset agnostic and can be used for trading any NXT asset. Due to the tech not being completed yet, there is no launch date for InstantDEX. The main tech components are a UDP hole punching peer to peer comm system that enables not only realtime trade matching, but off blockchain nearly atomic trade settlements. Due to the differences in bitcoind forks (NXTsubatomic) and NXT transactions (NXTatomic), it is not clear yet if there is a way to directly connect the two types of trades. In that event multigateway services might be required. Also due to transaction malleability issues, it is not clear how many confirmations will be needed to be able to safely finalize trades.

InstantDEX will let people change their bid/ask without fees and only charge when a trade happens. The goal of InstantDEX is to provide a fully decentralized peer-to-peer realtime trustless trading environment. There is no guarantee that this ideal goal will be 100% achieved, but I will continue to innovate and improve the tech to get as close as possible. I believe that it is important to provide the market what the market wants, instead of forcing something against what the market wants. To that end, InstantDEX will allow for trading of any NXT asset, NXT, bitcoind crypto against each other. I will also test market using ripple IOU's for USD and CNY to see if such a proxy of a proxy will be acceptable for traders. If it is, then it will be fully integrated into InstantDEX

Wesleyh will work hard to make InstantDEX as easy to use as possible. Since we wont have large server expenses no matter how many active traders there are, our overhead will be the lowest in the industry. This will allow InstantDEX to have lower fees initially to gain marketshare. Exact specifics on fees are subject to change, with reasonable notice given to the customers.

It is expected that half the revenues will be distributed to InstantDEX holders, but probably not until there is an easy to use dividend mechanism. Exact distribution amounts and timing are subject to change. InstantDEX currently has over 1.5 million NXT 4383817337783094122 and I do not expect that we will need any additional capital to fund continued operations.

NXTsubatomic and NXTatomic will be part of InstantDEX. I believe both have no fundamental security issues, but due to the cutting edge nature of their implementation, it is possible for there to be incidents. We will of course do our best to avoid any such incidents, just a risk factor to keep in mind. Also, in the event that I or anybody else solves the BTC <-> NXT direct atomic exchange, I will of course integrate that tech into InstantDEX.

I cant make any promises about availability of InstantDEX, but if people posted their interest, that could help some of the holders to decide to put some up for sale.

The following threads have info on the progress of the tech:
https://nxtforum.org/multigateway-jl777/nxtsubatomic-atomic-crosschain-exchange/ and https://nxtforum.org/multigateway-jl777/secret-project/

James

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Re: ASSET EXCHANGE IPOs - Launch Day Listings!
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2014, 08:34:18 am »

I don't think Lith is going to, Bas mentioned something about IPO not being the way they decided to go.


Lith will not be on the AE.


I do like Salsa's idea, though. :)
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Re: ASSET EXCHANGE IPOs - Launch Day Listings!
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2014, 08:59:47 am »

Interested. 8)
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Re: ASSET EXCHANGE IPOs - Launch Day Listings!
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2014, 09:21:02 am »

Definitely interested :)
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Re: ASSET EXCHANGE IPOs - Launch Day Listings!
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2014, 12:31:49 pm »

Wow this is getting really interesting!
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2014, 12:43:20 pm »

Nice. I am interested.
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2014, 12:52:09 pm »

InstantDEX will be issued and distributed on launch day, however there will be no official or unofficial IPO. There never was a public investment window to make sure that we avoid any regulatory issues. That being said I cannot control what people do with the InstantDEX they have. I expect that some people might put some up for sale on the AE, especially if there are bids. The only price point for InstantDEX to date is 7.5 NXT per InstantDEX asset.

There will be 1,000,000 InstantDEX issued.
jl777 30%
wesleyh 30%
aldrin 20%
consultants and advisors 9% (Come-from-Beyond, AdamLevine, fanaticalfishing, chanc3r, joefox, NXTminnow, allwelder)
InstantDEX working capital 11%

InstantDEX will generate revenues by charging 0.1% to 0.2% of transactions. If it is 0.2% to each side of the trade, that is a total of 0.4% of all trade volume. If InstantDEX is able to sustain a daily trade volume of 250 BTC -> 1 BTC/day of revenues.

InstantDEX will launch by supporting trading in multigateway assets, but it is asset agnostic and can be used for trading any NXT asset. Due to the tech not being completed yet, there is no launch date for InstantDEX. The main tech components are a UDP hole punching peer to peer comm system that enables not only realtime trade matching, but off blockchain nearly atomic trade settlements. Due to the differences in bitcoind forks (NXTsubatomic) and NXT transactions (NXTatomic), it is not clear yet if there is a way to directly connect the two types of trades. In that event multigateway services might be required. Also due to transaction malleability issues, it is not clear how many confirmations will be needed to be able to safely finalize trades.

InstantDEX will let people change their bid/ask without fees and only charge when a trade happens. The goal of InstantDEX is to provide a fully decentralized peer-to-peer realtime trustless trading environment. There is no guarantee that this ideal goal will be 100% achieved, but I will continue to innovate and improve the tech to get as close as possible. I believe that it is important to provide the market what the market wants, instead of forcing something against what the market wants. To that end, InstantDEX will allow for trading of any NXT asset, NXT, bitcoind crypto against each other. I will also test market using ripple IOU's for USD and CNY to see if such a proxy of a proxy will be acceptable for traders. If it is, then it will be fully integrated into InstantDEX

Wesleyh will work hard to make InstantDEX as easy to use as possible. Since we wont have large server expenses no matter how many active traders there are, our overhead will be the lowest in the industry. This will allow InstantDEX to have lower fees initially to gain marketshare. Exact specifics on fees are subject to change, with reasonable notice given to the customers.

It is expected that half the revenues will be distributed to InstantDEX holders, but probably not until there is an easy to use dividend mechanism. Exact distribution amounts and timing are subject to change. InstantDEX currently has over 1.5 million NXT 4383817337783094122 and I do not expect that we will need any additional capital to fund continued operations.

NXTsubatomic and NXTatomic will be part of InstantDEX. I believe both have no fundamental security issues, but due to the cutting edge nature of their implementation, it is possible for there to be incidents. We will of course do our best to avoid any such incidents, just a risk factor to keep in mind. Also, in the event that I or anybody else solves the BTC <-> NXT direct atomic exchange, I will of course integrate that tech into InstantDEX.

I cant make any promises about availability of InstantDEX, but if people posted their interest, that could help some of the holders to decide to put some up for sale.

The following threads have info on the progress of the tech:
https://nxtforum.org/multigateway-jl777/nxtsubatomic-atomic-crosschain-exchange/ and https://nxtforum.org/multigateway-jl777/secret-project/

James

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Re: ASSET EXCHANGE IPOs - Launch Day Listings!
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2014, 09:13:43 pm »

I guess I should announce that NXTcoinsco will also be listed just by the fact that I will issue 1 million shares then day NXT AE goes mainnet.

As you probably know, I will be making some coins on top of NXT. I might even make some using parallel chains or monetary system when they are available. For now, the only announced coin is nodecoin. There is another secret coin that I will also be doing. Instead of premining or instamining, etc. I will make my coins send 10% of mining output to NXTcoinsco, to be allocated among NXTcoinsco holders. This will include all the jl777 coins and coins other people make using the NXTcoinsco development kit.

This project is a bit longer term as I need to finish the current batch of projects before I can actually properly implement this. Within a day, 15%+ has been spoken for. More details here https://nxtforum.org/multigateway-jl777/private-investment-opportunities/msg12764/#msg12764

Overall, my plan is to put trading related stuff into InstantDEX and coin related stuff into NXTcoinsco.

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Re: ASSET EXCHANGE IPOs - Launch Day Listings!
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2014, 10:31:43 pm »

daaaamn this is so cool! lol so we will be able to buy shares of instantdex and coinsco(which pays out dividends in the form of 10% of mined coins(what ever coins are created using you coin creation kit) split between everyone who owns coinsco shares?) on asset exchange on launch day? any idea what starting price shares of coinco will be set at? assuming you will be the only one selling im sure you have an idea?

as for instantdex will you be placing any of your shares up for sale? (this question goes to anyone who owns shares of instantdex)
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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2014, 10:41:16 pm »

DGEX will be trading on AE but probably not from day one, migrating shares & procedures from inhouse web trading database takes time.
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Re: ASSET EXCHANGE IPOs - Launch Day Listings!
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2014, 11:30:27 pm »

daaaamn this is so cool! lol so we will be able to buy shares of instantdex and coinsco(which pays out dividends in the form of 10% of mined coins(what ever coins are created using you coin creation kit) split between everyone who owns coinsco shares?) on asset exchange on launch day? any idea what starting price shares of coinco will be set at? assuming you will be the only one selling im sure you have an idea?

as for instantdex will you be placing any of your shares up for sale? (this question goes to anyone who owns shares of instantdex)
I will be automating the dividending process, not sure if it makes sense to do it block by block, but probably hourly or something like that. Each dividend time, a snapshot of the NXTcoinsco owners will be made and the coins mined during that timeframe will get calculated. 10% will then get sent to the NXTcoinsco holders. Still havent worked out all the details, but nodecoin will be the first NXTcoinsco coin, so I imagine I will get the kinks out with that.

I will be putting 10,000 (1%) of InstantDEX for sale opening day. NXTcoinsco is still very early, so I dont expect to put any on the market myself on opening day.

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Re: ASSET EXCHANGE IPOs - Launch Day Listings!
« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2014, 11:22:07 am »

I've threatened to do this for a long time, so I think that it's about time for me to launch EvilCoin on an unsuspecting world ....mwahahaha !

(and don't ask whats its for..............its a secret)

What's it for?
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« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2014, 11:44:39 am »

Is there a clear list what will be listed on AE at launch day?

All I can see are question marks in your first post.
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Re: ASSET EXCHANGE IPOs - Launch Day Listings!
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2014, 11:49:27 am »

Is there a clear list what will be listed on AE at launch day?

All I can see are question marks in your first post.

I will update the OP.
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