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people dont know messages arent encrypted
« on: May 26, 2014, 12:54:48 pm »

have a look here and read the messages
http://nextblocks.info/#section/blockexplorer_messages

people dont know their messages are readable by everyone!!!!
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2014, 01:10:16 pm »

You are right, encryption should be added fast!

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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2014, 01:10:50 pm »

You are right, encryption should be added fast! default in gui client
« Last Edit: May 26, 2014, 01:13:44 pm by bitcoinpaul »
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2014, 01:12:18 pm »

plz, encryption message.

 ;D ;D ;D

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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2014, 01:14:05 pm »

But without a key. Is this somehow possible?
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2014, 01:15:11 pm »

Awkward...
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2014, 01:27:57 pm »

searching through messages... ;D
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2014, 01:30:38 pm »

Someone please send a message to NXT-DDV8-8D6B-WU8X-2N4G5 (or NXT-QRBJ-MR46-PX5K-7FZ8C) account holder (Marc) and let him know that his saving/private account is at stake because of two things: 1. Account credential is exposed, 2. The account has no outgoing transaction.

This is bad business for NXT :(
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2014, 01:31:38 pm »

Use Offspring.
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2014, 01:33:20 pm »

I do not know if this is appropriate, but I have found some hightlights like:

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Test, test, test. All I ever do is test. I want to DEVELOP something .

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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2014, 01:33:46 pm »

Someone please send a message to NXT-DDV8-8D6B-WU8X-2N4G5 (or NXT-QRBJ-MR46-PX5K-7FZ8C) account holder (Marc) and let him know that his saving/private account is at stake because of two things: 1. Account credential is exposed, 2. The account has no outgoing transaction.

This is bad business for NXT :(

To the kitchen!!!
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2014, 01:33:53 pm »

Next version, encrypted messages!
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2014, 01:34:09 pm »

But without a key. Is this somehow possible?

There are keys: your private, your public, receivers private, receivers public

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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2014, 01:34:54 pm »

Someone please send a message to NXT-DDV8-8D6B-WU8X-2N4G5 (or NXT-QRBJ-MR46-PX5K-7FZ8C) account holder (Marc) and let him know that his saving/private account is at stake because of two things: 1. Account credential is exposed, 2. The account has no outgoing transaction.

This is bad business for NXT :(

It's more like a riddle.  :P
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2014, 01:38:21 pm »

I do not know if this is appropriate, but I have found some hightlights like:

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Test, test, test. All I ever do is test. I want to DEVELOP something .

Hahaha yea, this was the best message out there.  ;D
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2014, 01:39:54 pm »

Next version, encrypted messages!

That's good news!
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2014, 01:40:02 pm »

WOW!!  :o

One guy is explaining how his password is created for in case his is going to die.  :-X
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2014, 01:48:51 pm »

WOW!!  :o

One guy is explaining how his password is created for in case his is going to die.  :-X

WOW i saw that 1 as well.

Kinda strange reading that I feel weird now.
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2014, 01:49:30 pm »

Awkward...

 :o

12 objects in the kitchen are his password xD

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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2014, 01:52:23 pm »

"Hi Jas, This is my first encrypted message sent through Nxt blockchain :). Pls reply if you get this. "

lol
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« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2014, 01:56:08 pm »

"Seven Words You Can Never Say on Television: http://en.wikipedia.org/w iki/Seven_dirty_words. But you can say them on the blockchain. Shit, p iss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker, tits.  "


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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #21 on: May 26, 2014, 02:19:02 pm »

"Hey man, Adam here. So when I added you as a contact it told me you h ave 677,000 NXT on your account lol. What an odd thing for it to tell me."
This man got a point, why would the wallet tell you that? Yeah, I know that you can still explore the blockchain to know not only the balance of an account but the whole history, even read sent messages like what we are doing at the moment. But, still, an odd information to give out. xD
Giving the name associated with that account, on the other hand, is not as strange.
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2014, 02:21:33 pm »

"Hey man, Adam here. So when I added you as a contact it told me you h ave 677,000 NXT on your account lol. What an odd thing for it to tell me."
This man got a point, why would the wallet tell you that? Yeah, I know that you can still explore the blockchain to know not only the balance of an account but the whole history, even read sent messages like what we are doing at the moment. But, still, an odd information to give out. xD
Giving the name associated with that account, on the other hand, is not as strange.

I think it's a general message coded into the function which checks, if the account is valid (has NXT, has a public key).
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2014, 02:26:48 pm »

"Hey man, Adam here. So when I added you as a contact it told me you h ave 677,000 NXT on your account lol. What an odd thing for it to tell me."
This man got a point, why would the wallet tell you that? Yeah, I know that you can still explore the blockchain to know not only the balance of an account but the whole history, even read sent messages like what we are doing at the moment. But, still, an odd information to give out. xD
Giving the name associated with that account, on the other hand, is not as strange.

I think it's a general message coded into the function which checks, if the account is valid (has NXT, has a public key).
Then tell the user that! :)
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2014, 02:29:36 pm »

"Hey man, Adam here. So when I added you as a contact it told me you h ave 677,000 NXT on your account lol. What an odd thing for it to tell me."
This man got a point, why would the wallet tell you that? Yeah, I know that you can still explore the blockchain to know not only the balance of an account but the whole history, even read sent messages like what we are doing at the moment. But, still, an odd information to give out. xD
Giving the name associated with that account, on the other hand, is not as strange.

I think it's a general message coded into the function which checks, if the account is valid (has NXT, has a public key).
Then tell the user that! :)

Why, what's wrong with showing the amount? It's an extra check. ("Oh yeah I know this guy has xx nxt, checks out)
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2014, 02:54:19 pm »

"Hey man, Adam here. So when I added you as a contact it told me you h ave 677,000 NXT on your account lol. What an odd thing for it to tell me."
This man got a point, why would the wallet tell you that? Yeah, I know that you can still explore the blockchain to know not only the balance of an account but the whole history, even read sent messages like what we are doing at the moment. But, still, an odd information to give out. xD
Giving the name associated with that account, on the other hand, is not as strange.

I think it's a general message coded into the function which checks, if the account is valid (has NXT, has a public key).
Then tell the user that! :)

Why, what's wrong with showing the amount? It's an extra check. ("Oh yeah I know this guy has xx nxt, checks out)
Probably nothing. But I got the same feeling that the client is currently giving too much information to the average users.
The above remark is an example how things that seems logical to us but actually not the case to them. Instead it could probably say something like: "This account is valid and has a positive balance." and then maybe add a "more info" or "what does it mean?" link.

I guess what I am trying to say is that the wallet should be designed in a way that some (detailed/technical) information are optional (or hidden as much as possible). People could still retrieve that if they choose to; put it in a tooltip, or an information window or something. But this is just my opinion and a discussion for somewhere else.



On topic, I feel that the "Message Explorer" should hide the content or to not show the full message at the moment. There are some private chat going on there, it's like watching a reality show :S
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2014, 09:47:29 am »

On topic, I feel that the "Message Explorer" should hide the content or to not show the full message at the moment. There are some private chat going on there, it's like watching a reality show :S

no i think its good that it shows alle the messages. this way people are able to realise the messages arent encrypted. HELL if i havent seen this i would also think the messages are encrypted because NXT is promoting the message system everywhere as encrypted thing!
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2014, 12:17:42 pm »

Like nxt is advertising with transparent forging, judgement system...

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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2014, 09:37:23 pm »

"Please return my 500k coins to my account, 86162509365658888 which you sent to 6122084737303019172. I need the coins to pay off my mum's me dical fees. "

 :o

there is drama happening in the blockchain every day.

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« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2014, 09:39:57 pm »

"Please return my 500k coins to my account, 86162509365658888 which you sent to 6122084737303019172. I need the coins to pay off my mum's me dical fees. "

 :o

there is drama happening in the blockchain every day.

his passphrase was probably "formymom"
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« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2014, 09:49:22 pm »

According to wesleyh they will be encrypted with the next version.
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« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2014, 10:24:23 am »

Man,

I read to "whole history" about Marc at http://nextblocks.info/ and I feel really sorry for him,

Please, tell me he didn't lose any NXT with this thing!  :-\
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2014, 10:13:05 pm »

Are these messages in the blockchain forever? Seems like a waste of long term disk space. The Bitmessage design seems better as messages exist for a finite period and then is deleted from the chain. Messages don't need to be permanent in most cases. If you want permanent messages the fee should be higher or you should pay every week/month/year to keep the message in the chain?
« Last Edit: June 17, 2014, 11:24:48 pm by Dunster »
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« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2014, 10:14:26 pm »

Are these messages in the blockchain forever? Seems like a waster of disk space of so. The Bitmessage design seems better as messages exist for a finite period and then is deleted from the chain. Messages don't need to be permanent in most cases. If you want permanent messages the fee should be higher or you should pay every week/month/year to keep the message in the chain?

Blockchain shrinking will be developed.
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2014, 10:08:56 am »

According to wesleyh they will be encrypted with the next version.
haha,great.
If can give a choice encrypted or not will be much better imp.
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Re: people dont know messages arent encrypted
« Reply #35 on: June 17, 2014, 10:21:51 pm »

1.1.4 is not encrypted.
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« Reply #36 on: June 21, 2014, 11:07:21 am »

OMG! Marc strikes again!!!:
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Hey Adaora :) This message cannot be read by the government. :) I'll k eep using this address in the future so if you want to say something f ully private, send me a message here! :)


 how many messages did you send to our beloved Marc to warn him?  :-[

Hope in the next message he posts his actual phone number and can be totally warned!  ;)
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« Reply #37 on: June 21, 2014, 04:29:35 pm »

OMG! Marc strikes again!!!:
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Hey Adaora :) This message cannot be read by the government. :) I'll k eep using this address in the future so if you want to say something f ully private, send me a message here! :)

He says this even though someone told him everyone can read his messages. I believe Marc is a troll :)
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« Reply #38 on: June 21, 2014, 08:20:03 pm »

According to wesleyh they will be encrypted with the next version.

1.1.5 is NOT encrypted.
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« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2014, 04:41:33 am »

1.1.6 still seems to be unencrypted
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« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2014, 06:06:20 am »

"Hey man, Adam here. So when I added you as a contact it told me you h ave 677,000 NXT on your account lol. What an odd thing for it to tell me."
This man got a point, why would the wallet tell you that? Yeah, I know that you can still explore the blockchain to know not only the balance of an account but the whole history, even read sent messages like what we are doing at the moment. But, still, an odd information to give out. xD
Giving the name associated with that account, on the other hand, is not as strange.

I think it's a general message coded into the function which checks, if the account is valid (has NXT, has a public key).
Then tell the user that! :)

Why, what's wrong with showing the amount? It's an extra check. ("Oh yeah I know this guy has xx nxt, checks out)

I like this feature. I have found it useful on many occasions.
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